Filter questions
Hi group, I want to create a filter rule which does the following: Every not-gpg-signed email will get an automatic generated answer. Exceptions: - some guys from my contacts can be left out because they use bloody webmailer anyway which makes it harder for them to install and use GPG (they are not very familiar with computers). I think those guys have to be added manually which is what I have already done. Maybe a group could be a better solution? - Newsletter etc. - I try to capture them by looking at the topic newsticker and newsletter. But I am not sure whether I get all of them. - Amazon, ebay etc - IIRC they do not send information emails with newsletter topic. How can I get them? - Some other mass mails with more than say 5 recipants. Any chance to capture them? Maybe there are some more exceptions, but I hope to identify them soon. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. -- Best wishes, Harald Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions
Hello REZK945, I want to create a filter rule which does the following: Every not-gpg-signed email will get an automatic generated answer. I'm not familiar with gpg or pgp, etc., but I assume there must be something unique to those messages. An specific header field, or textt within the body. Let's assume the uniqueness is -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- in the body. You would need a filter with condition: Text .does not contain. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- and with Action 'Send automatic reply'. For my explanations below, lets call this filter 'GPG Filter' Exceptions: My suggestion would be to NOT include exceptions in the same filter with .AND NOT. conditions, but to set up a separate filter for each exception. Much more clear and easier to manage. Your filter structure should be: Exception 1 Exception 2 ... GPG Filter For this structure to work, nonre of the filter should have the 'Continue processing with other filters' option selected. - some guys from my contacts can be left out because they use bloody webmailer anyway which makes it harder for them to install and use GPG (they are not very familiar with computers). I think those guys have to be added manually which is what I have already done. Maybe a group could be a better solution? Yes, I thing using an AB Groups is a much better idea. Exception 1 Filter Address groups groupname contains sender - Newsletter etc. - I try to capture them by looking at the topic newsticker and newsletter. But I am not sure whether I get all of them. Exception 2 filter Subject contains newsticker .OR. Sublect contains newsletter - Amazon, ebay etc - IIRC they do not send information emails with newsletter topic. How can I get them? This would be your 'Exception 3' filter, and you must look for something unique in those messages. Perhaps the domain of the sender?. If so: Exception 3 filter Header field From: contains @amazon.com .OR. Header field From: contains @ebay.com - Some other mass mails with more than say 5 recipants. Any chance to capture them? Maybe with something like: Recipient match RegExp But I am not at all familiar with Regular Expressions to suggest one. Sorry. Maybe there are some more exceptions, but I hope to identify them soon. Just add a new filter before the GPG one. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Hope mine are of some help. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter questions
Fellow Bat! Fans. Any easy way to move (or copy) a whole bunch of filters from one account to another, or to make existing filters common filters? BTW, am I to understand that a common filter will apply to all ticked accounts? I presume this is the case but feel I may be getting (not a scientific feel mind you) some strange results. -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia Using Bat! 3.99.24, Windows XP, 2600, Service Pack 2 Dell Precision M70 Laptop, 1 Gig ram. Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions
Hallo John, On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:12:40 +1000GMT (5-9-2007, 7:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JP Any easy way to move (or copy) a whole bunch of filters from one JP account to another, or to make existing filters common filters? The filters are stored in the account.srb file (account.erb for OTFE) in the account directory. (Mail directory for common filters) Closing TB and copying/moving the file to the new location used to work during the early stages of v3, but it hasn't been discussed on list for quite a long now, so that might have been changed. Create a backup and try it. Note that this means that your old filters in the target account will be lost. JP BTW, am I to understand that a common filter will apply to all JP ticked accounts? I presume this is the case but feel I may be getting JP (not a scientific feel mind you) some strange results. I don't use common filters myself, two of my three accounts are merely for some testing, so I don't need any filtering there. -- Groetjes, Roelof When I was a boy, when Fortran was only Twotran http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpTc5v5ltXQc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions
Roelof, On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, at 12:41:09 [GMT +0200] (20:41:09 05/09/2007 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: I don't use common filters myself, two of my three accounts are merely for some testing, so I don't need any filtering there. snip, etc. Thanks for the help. -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia Using Bat! 3.99.24, Windows XP, 2600, Service Pack 2 Dell Precision M70 Laptop, 1 Gig ram. Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Thursday, April 26, 2007, 9:24:06 AM, you wrote: I think address books (you can have as many as you want/need) are very useful for this type of things because you can add and delete entries with filter actions. In your case it would be simple with a couple of filters. If the sender of a message is NOT in '1st time' AB, add him. And, if he is, he is obviously a returning customer and the filter can move the message to whatever folder you wish. Thanks a lot - this works fine for me. Took me a while to figure out how to set up the filters and to ensure that they work in the correct sequence and that all have the tick to continue, but once done I now get my alerts as requested. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Hello Tom, I think address books (you can have as many as you want/need) are very useful for this type of things because you can add and delete entries with filter actions. In your case it would be simple with a couple of filters. If the sender of a message is NOT in '1st time' AB, add him. And, if he is, he is obviously a returning customer and the filter can move the message to whatever folder you wish. Thanks a lot - this works fine for me. Glad to hear that :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter Questions
Hello Everyone, I would like to set up a filter to copy all incoming emails arriving in a specific account to a new folder or ideally virtual folder provided the sender's email is already in the original folder (ie. use the filter to notify me that an incoming email is from a known source as opposed to be a brand-new sender). Is this possible? Also, when I fiddled with the folders, I set up a virtual folder linked to the original folder. This now shows all the emails from the original as I had not yet set up any filter. How can I get rid of it now. I am afraid deleting it will delete all original emails too, something I don't want to do? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Hello Tom, I would like to set up a filter to copy all incoming emails arriving in a specific account to a new folder or ideally virtual folder provided the sender's email is already in the original folder (ie. use the filter to notify me that an incoming email is from a known source as opposed to be a brand-new sender). Is this possible? Yes, it is possible in several ways. Perhaps the easiest and most straight forward way would be that you add your 'known sources' to the address book. Then, you can make Active the Known Incoming filter that is included by default by TB in the Sorting Office when an account is created. This way, messages from 'known sources' will be moved to Inbox-Known folder and the rest will just stay in normal Inbox. If you want to keep messages from 'known sources' in a separate folder for each, you can modify the action in Known filter and use the %FromName or %ABFromName macros for the folder name instead of 'Inbox-Known'. Also, when I fiddled with the folders, I set up a virtual folder linked to the original folder. This now shows all the emails from the original as I had not yet set up any filter. How can I get rid of it now. I am afraid deleting it will delete all original emails too, something I don't want to do? NO problem. If you delete a Virtual Folder the messages that were _shown_ (not stored) in it will stay in whatever real folder they were actually in. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Thursday, April 26, 2007, 2:59:12 AM, you wrote: Hello Tom, (ie. use the filter to notify me that an incoming email is from a known source as opposed to be a brand-new sender). Is this possible? Yes, it is possible in several ways. Perhaps the easiest and most straight forward way would be that you add your 'known sources' to the address book. Then, you can make Active the Known Incoming filter that is included by default by TB in the Sorting Office when an account is created. This way, messages from 'known sources' will be moved to Inbox-Known folder and the rest will just stay in normal Inbox. sorry, I was not clear enough - the incoming emails usually are not from known sources the first time. These are orders from customers. The majority will be new customers and new emails but over time some will be returning customers. These I would like to catch and review once they come in. However there is no need to filter them in individual folders. The trick with the address book won't work as I don't want to add each sender to the address book on the off chance that they may order multiple times. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Hello Tom, sorry, I was not clear enough - the incoming emails usually are not from known sources the first time. These are orders from customers. The majority will be new customers and new emails but over time some will be returning customers. These I would like to catch and review once they come in. However there is no need to filter them in individual folders. The trick with the address book won't work as I don't want to add each sender to the address book on the off chance that they may order multiple times. I think address books (you can have as many as you want/need) are very useful for this type of things because you can add and delete entries with filter actions. In your case it would be simple with a couple of filters. If the sender of a message is NOT in '1st time' AB, add him. And, if he is, he is obviously a returning customer and the filter can move the message to whatever folder you wish. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving Filters (and other filter questions)
Hi Bat! Fans, 1. I would like to move all my filters under one isp to Common filters. Any way of doing this easily, without doing one by one? 2. Looking at a particular folder- any way to see which filter/s apply to this folder? 3. Can received mail filters be automatically applied to sent mail filters as well? 4. Can a list of filters be sorted to eliminate dupes or conflicts? T.I.A. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The hardness of the butter is in inverse proportion to the softness of the bread. Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving Filters (and other filter questions)
Hallo John, On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:25:32 +1000GMT (28-10-2005, 10:25 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JP 1. I would like to move all my filters under one isp to Common filters. JP Any way of doing this easily, without doing one by one? When you've got no (or just a few) common filters, you could close TB and move the account.srb file from the account directory to the mail directory. (account.erb when OTFE is enabled) JP 2. Looking at a particular folder- any way to see which filter/s apply to JP this folder? No JP 3. Can received mail filters be automatically applied to sent mail filters JP as well? No JP 4. Can a list of filters be sorted to eliminate dupes or conflicts? No -- Groetjes, Roelof I've got all this emotional baggage and no claim check. - SLR The Bat! 3.62.01 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpzehKMSOjAV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving Filters (and other filter questions)
Hi Roelof, On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, at 15:06:35 [GMT+0200] (which was 23:06:35 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: When you've got no (or just a few) common filters, you could close TB and move the account.srb file from the account directory to the mail directory. (account.erb when OTFE is enabled) Thanks for the prompt one! I have 2 isp accounts; the filters need amalgamating. I suppose no simple way? BTW what is OTFE? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accidents in the back seat cause kids. Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OTFE (was: Moving Filters (and other filter questions))
Hello John, On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:14:18 +1000 GMT (28/10/2005, 20:14 +0700 GMT), John Phillips wrote: JP BTW what is OTFE? That's TB's proprietary on-the-fly encryption. It makes your messages unreadable to anyone who doesn't know your password - or to yourself, if you happen to have a problem with your TB. -- Cheers, Thomas. Der erste Tag am FKK-Strand kann fuer einen jungen Mann sehr hart werden. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.01 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions/problems
On 8-9-2004, 17:22, Sander van den Berg wrote: SvdB I have some questions and a problem concerning the NFS. :pacsnip: In two days not a single reply... :boohoo: -- Best regards, Sander van den Berg :nlflag: The Bat! v3.0 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions/problems
Hello Sander van den Berg everyone else 10-Sep-2004 11:21, you wrote: SvdB I have some questions and a problem concerning the NFS. In two days not a single reply... :boohoo: :-) ...the NFS is currently discussed a *lot* on the beta mailinglist. The v3 release version had bugs which are currently being resolved one after the other. As for you suggestion of address book group selection, I'd say that should be formed into a feature request (its a useful idea, indeed). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.0.11 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 DP2: Mind Tranceference Control by Pete Namlook Bill Laswell from 'Psychonavigation 3' Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions/problems
Hallo Sander, On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:22:11 +0200GMT (8-9-2004, 17:22 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SVD Recently I upgraded from v2.12 to v3.0 (I never used beta SVD versions). Now I suspect the conversion of my old filters to the SVD NFS went not as it should. You're not the only one with that problem. v3's conversion went rather well, but that's not the same as totally flawless on all systems. Furthermore some filters (especially the more complex ones) acted a bit different than what might have been expected. However on the beta list we see a lot of improvement. (And every now and then a bit of regression.) SVD It seems some messages get filtered based on a rule which I SVD already altered before the upgrade. I cannot verify which filter SVD rule it uses, it concerns a Read messages filter and apparently SVD these aren't logged. Currently your only option seems is to check your read filters one by one whether they could have caused your problems. Especially for vread filters this should be easy, because of them being converted with their source folder present. (I think to remember something like that, don't use read filters myself) Checking your filters won't hurt anyway. After the upgrade I've done some weeding on filters that I didn't use anymore. (unsubbed mailing lists and so on) and done some re-sculpting of filters using the possibilities of the NFS (no more 'dot in headers and sender in AB group', but only 'sender in AB group') SVD This leads to my second question: SVD The incoming mail filter actions are logged in the account log. But is it SVD not possible to log all the other kinds of filter actions (read, sent, etc.) SVD as well? I think that would be a nice feature SVD I am using The Bat! about 4.5 years now and my filter collection has become SVD quite large. Sometimes I am puzzled which filter it is using, then a logfile SVD would be helpful. Another option would be to regularly check your sorting office, carefully fine tuning it and cutting dead wood. I'm doing that at least twice a year and generally I know what filter caught a message when I'm seeing something unexpected. I guess that's because I strive to keep my filters as simple as possible, and I keep my 86 incoming filters structured together, first mailing lists, then AB groups the the rest and I try to keep them mutually exclusive, so the sequence doesn't matter a lot. (Totally mutually exclusive can't be done, since I've got some contacts in multiple AB groups and I've got filters for almost all of them.) SVD Third question (also about the NFS): SVD When using Address groups in a filter rule, is manually typing the name of SVD the group the only way to select it? In the old filter system you could just SVD select it from a dialog box. And what if I want to select multiple groups? SVD Do I type Group1+Group2 or Group1,Group2 or ... ? Multiple groups should be done as: bsv+bsvbestuur+bsvintern+bsvextern I've checked this by reverting to an older version of TB (still using the OFS) created a new filter with multiple AB groups, moved my account.srb (NFS file) to a save location, upgraded back and checked the new filter. I guess that would be a way to create them. ;-) Create a new old filter convert it, paste the filter to a text editor, close TB, restore the account.srb open TB and paste your new filter from the text editor. I suppose typing the handles is easier. SVD Lot of questions... I hope you can help me. Not really. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions/problems
On Friday, September 10, 2004 @ 6:57:21 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: [snips] SVD Recently I upgraded from v2.12 to v3.0 (I never used beta SVD versions). Now I suspect the conversion of my old filters to the SVD NFS went not as it should. Roelof You're not the only one with that problem. v3's conversion went rather Roelof well, but that's not the same as totally flawless on all systems. Yes :-) Roelof Furthermore some filters (especially the more complex ones) acted a Roelof bit different than what might have been expected. FWIW, I ended up deleting all my old filters and rebuilding everything, as it was easier than stuffing around with the old ones and fixing the problems caused by conversion. I used the opportunity to reorganise my filter structure using the new sub-filters, so I managed to justify it a bit that way... Roelof However on the beta list we see a lot of improvement. (And every now Roelof and then a bit of regression.) And, at times, bizarre behaviour where the filters work when you go to bed, and don't when you get up. Hard to troubleshoot that :-) I've rebuilt filters several times (identically) to get them to work again. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) Try not to become a man of success but rather try to become a man of value. Albert Einstein Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter questions/problems
Hello TBUDL, I have some questions and a problem concerning the NFS. First a problem: Recently I upgraded from v2.12 to v3.0 (I never used beta versions). Now I suspect the conversion of my old filters to the NFS went not as it should. It seems some messages get filtered based on a rule which I already altered before the upgrade. I cannot verify which filter rule it uses, it concerns a Read messages filter and apparently these aren't logged. Has anybody else had problems like this? Or other filter conversion problems? This leads to my second question: The incoming mail filter actions are logged in the account log. But is it not possible to log all the other kinds of filter actions (read, sent, etc.) as well? I am using The Bat! about 4.5 years now and my filter collection has become quite large. Sometimes I am puzzled which filter it is using, then a logfile would be helpful. Third question (also about the NFS): When using Address groups in a filter rule, is manually typing the name of the group the only way to select it? In the old filter system you could just select it from a dialog box. And what if I want to select multiple groups? Do I type Group1+Group2 or Group1,Group2 or ... ? Lot of questions... I hope you can help me. -- Best regards, Sander van den Berg :nlflag: The Bat! v3.0 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: **SPAM** Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
Hello Peter, Friday, February 21, 2003, 7:31:19 PM, you wrote: FN Since I'm using Spampal, all Spam is refused. Your mail is recognised FN as spam. PM Now your spam protection has turned to the opposite: you're spamming PM all TBUDL members... :-( I'm sure it wasn't intended, so check your PM filters! Here, here. Maybe we should all set up a filter to filter out the spam caused by filters that don't filter correctly :) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
Howdy Thomas, Friday, February 21, 2003, 1:00:39 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: There is no published list of these internal codes. In fact, the filter and its innards are not meant to be read by humans. These things only become visible when you cp filters, but if you want to see/change anything, you should do that in the Sorting Office. OK, thanks. No. I have a free account and I don't have a password. The second filter works fine here, too. Ok, but Mark's note says You will have to change the name40domain.com:password text to be your account name and password... what should I use for password? The authorization code issued by SpamCop? Sorry to be so dense. Thanks for the help. -- Chris Montgomery Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
Hi Chris, on Fri, 21 Feb 2003 02:04:09 -0600GMT (21.02.03, 09:04 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : CM Ok, but Mark's note says You will have to change the CM name40domain.com:password text to be your account name and CM password... what should I use for password? The authorization code CM issued by SpamCop? Sorry to be so dense. This applies only if you _have_ a password, i.e., you're a paying user. In your case just use the SpamCop filters as described in the FAQ. -- Cheers Peter He who shouts the loudest has the floor. Winamp currently playing: Mila Mar - Maid of Orleans Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
On Friday, February 21, 2003, 7:41 AM, you wrote: PM Hi Chris, PM on Fri, 21 Feb 2003 02:04:09 -0600GMT (21.02.03, 09:04 +0100GMT here), PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : CM Ok, but Mark's note says You will have to change the CM name40domain.com:password text to be your account name and CM password... what should I use for password? The authorization code CM issued by SpamCop? Sorry to be so dense. PM This applies only if you _have_ a password, i.e., you're a paying user. PM In your case just use the SpamCop filters as described in the FAQ. directly from the FAQ : BEGIN FAQ QUOTE--- Then - there is what happens when the notification comes back from SpamCop that the reports are ready to process. You can automate the procedure with the following filter. You may need to change the launcher (which refers to IE) if IE is not your preferred browser. ***NEW***: This procedure now logs into your SpamCop account too. You will have to change the name40domain.com:password text to be your account name and password. Oh yes, the 40 is an @ sign in macro+batch file encoding. Once again, copy these filters to Notepad or SmartBat and tidy them up before pasting them into the sorting office. The one to watch here is the SaveTemplate command. END FAQ QUOTE--- I see nothing about what to do without a login, did I miss it? -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @21-Feb-2003, 08:36 -0500 (13:36 UK time) Paul Cartwright said: I see nothing about what to do without a login, did I miss it? No. I overdid the update. I've put a new version of the listing up there that includes a filter for non-members. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+VjU/OeQkq5KdzaARAtQgAJ4jqfRRWvuf4n4YCYSJZE7W15ViawCgn1zA 849hNDutiw/4Y07QhXmzij8= =vNUN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
On Friday, February 21, 2003, 9:18 AM, you wrote: I see nothing about what to do without a login, did I miss it? MDP No. I overdid the update. I've put a new version of the listing up MDP there that includes a filter for non-members. well I changed mine, thanks for the update! I still don't recall getting an email back from spamcop in a long time.. I'm not sure the first filter works right... maybe I need to get a new address from spamcop. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
Howdy Marck, Friday, February 21, 2003, 8:18:37 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: No. I overdid the update. I've put a new version of the listing up there that includes a filter for non-members. Filters work like a champ. Thanks, Marck (sorry for misspelling your name earlier). -- Chris Montgomery Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: **SPAM** Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
Since I'm using Spampal, all Spam is refused. Your mail is recognised as spam. If this is not the case, please reply this message without altering the subject. On vrijdag 21 februari 2003 at 8:00 you wrote subject: **SPAM** Re: SpamCop Filter Questions TF Hello Chris, TF On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:33:04 -0600 GMT (21/02/03, 12:33 +0700 GMT), TF Chris Montgomery wrote: 1. In the first filter, where can I find out what the values in the Actions line mean (e.g., faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix)? TF There is no published list of these internal codes. In fact, the TF filter and its innards are not meant to be read by humans. These TF things only become visible when you cp filters, but if you want to TF see/change anything, you should do that in the Sorting Office. 2. [...] Do I need to be a paying member to make this second filter work? I received an authorization code when I created my account, but I don't ever recall having a password. TF No. I have a free account and I don't have a password. The second TF filter works fine here, too. TF -- TF Cheers, TF Thomas. TF Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. TF If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? TF Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 TF under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A TF using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM TF TF Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: TF http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: **SPAM** Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
Since I'm using Spampal, all Spam is refused. Your mail is recognised as spam. If this is not the case, please reply this message without altering the subject. On vrijdag 21 februari 2003 at 9:04 you wrote subject: **SPAM** Re: SpamCop Filter Questions CM Howdy Thomas, CM Friday, February 21, 2003, 1:00:39 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: There is no published list of these internal codes. In fact, the filter and its innards are not meant to be read by humans. These things only become visible when you cp filters, but if you want to see/change anything, you should do that in the Sorting Office. CM OK, thanks. No. I have a free account and I don't have a password. The second filter works fine here, too. CM Ok, but Mark's note says You will have to change the CM name40domain.com:password text to be your account name and CM password... what should I use for password? The authorization code CM issued by SpamCop? Sorry to be so dense. CM Thanks for the help. CM -- CM Chris Montgomery CM CM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: CM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: **SPAM** SpamCop Filter Questions
Since I'm using Spampal, all Spam is refused. Your mail is recognised as spam. If this is not the case, please reply this message without altering the subject. On vrijdag 21 februari 2003 at 6:33 you wrote subject: **SPAM** SpamCop Filter Questions CM Howdy, CM I've been trying to follow last week's thread on setting up SpamCop CM filters. Have a couple of questions related to the SpamCop filters on Mark's CM FAQ site: CM 1. In the first filter, where can I find out what the values in the CM Actions line mean (e.g., CM faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix)? CM 2. In the second filter, the instructions talk about changing the name CM and password info in the SaveTemplate line (You will have to change the CM name40domain.com:password text to be your account name and CM password.). I set up a free account for reporting spam on SpamCop but I CM am not a paying member. Do I need to be a paying member to make this CM second filter work? I received an authorization code when I created my CM account, but I don't ever recall having a password. CM Thanks much. CM -- CM Chris Montgomery CM CM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: CM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: **SPAM** Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
Hi Frank, on Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:03:52 +0100GMT (21.02.03, 20:03 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : FN Since I'm using Spampal, all Spam is refused. Your mail is recognised FN as spam. Now your spam protection has turned to the opposite: you're spamming all TBUDL members... :-( I'm sure it wasn't intended, so check your filters! -- Cheers Peter Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. (Dick Brandon) Winamp currently playing: Billie Holiday - It Had to be You Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SpamCop Filter Questions
Howdy, I've been trying to follow last week's thread on setting up SpamCop filters. Have a couple of questions related to the SpamCop filters on Mark's FAQ site: 1. In the first filter, where can I find out what the values in the Actions line mean (e.g., faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix)? 2. In the second filter, the instructions talk about changing the name and password info in the SaveTemplate line (You will have to change the name40domain.com:password text to be your account name and password.). I set up a free account for reporting spam on SpamCop but I am not a paying member. Do I need to be a paying member to make this second filter work? I received an authorization code when I created my account, but I don't ever recall having a password. Thanks much. -- Chris Montgomery Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
Hello Chris, On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:33:04 -0600 GMT (21/02/03, 12:33 +0700 GMT), Chris Montgomery wrote: 1. In the first filter, where can I find out what the values in the Actions line mean (e.g., faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix)? There is no published list of these internal codes. In fact, the filter and its innards are not meant to be read by humans. These things only become visible when you cp filters, but if you want to see/change anything, you should do that in the Sorting Office. 2. [...] Do I need to be a paying member to make this second filter work? I received an authorization code when I created my account, but I don't ever recall having a password. No. I have a free account and I don't have a password. The second filter works fine here, too. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A couple of filter questions
L Should I dump Outlook 2000?: I switched last week and love it. Mail archive from Outlook2k via Outlook Express 5 and then into TB worked fine, contacts cobbled across via CSV files eventually. There are a couple of things I have not been able to - 1. Can't find the Maintenance mode for backup restore - where is it??Is it not there because I am in standalone mode maybe? Do I care since it seems to me I can just copy the directories anyway? 2. Can't see how to use filters like InAddrGroup: friends in an Incoming Filter, where would that string go? And where can I find the list of variables like InAddrGroup (which I only know about from an earlier posting) oh, and 3. I have set up 2 POP3 accounts, with one doing a selective download (which alone was worth switching from Outlook believe me!) then diverting all surviving mail to my main identity's Inbox. This in turn runs some Incoming filters to run highlight colours, distribute into mailing-list folders and so on. Thing with this is the filters don't seem to always run until I do a manual re-filter. Do the Incoming Filters only work reliably when downloading from the server directly into that Inbox? Many thanks for any answers you might wish to provide! I've already spent several hours configuring and tweaking TB and I'm very nearly content! -- Alan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07 January 2002 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: A couple of filter questions
Hello Alan, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:29:00 +GMT (7-1-02, 22:29 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: AO Do the Incoming Filters only work reliably when downloading from AO the server directly into that Inbox? You can skip the 'reliable'. Incoming filters only work when downloading from the matching account. This is rumoured to be changed in a next version, but I don't know how long that'll be. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: A couple of filter questions
Hello Alan, 07. januar 2002, 22:29:00, you wrote: AO 1. Can't find the Maintenance mode for backup restore - where is it??Is it AO not there because I am in standalone mode maybe? Do I care since it seems to AO me I can just copy the directories anyway? Tools - Backup, Tools - Restore AO 2. Can't see how to use filters like InAddrGroup: friends in an Incoming AO Filter, where would that string go? And where can I find the list of variables like AO InAddrGroup (which I only know about from an earlier posting) Check the Advanced tab of Sorting Office. AO 3. I have set up 2 POP3 accounts, with one doing a selective download (which AO alone was worth switching from Outlook believe me!) then diverting all surviving AO mail to my main identity's Inbox. This in turn runs some Incoming filters to AO run highlight colours, distribute into mailing-list folders and so on. Thing AO with this is the filters don't seem to always run until I do a manual re-filter. AO Do the Incoming Filters only work reliably when downloading from the server AO directly into that Inbox? After the message was filtered to another account it isn't processed by that account's filters. You might try to use local delivery, but it changes some headers... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] If you lose your temper at a newspaper columnist, he'll get rich or famous or both. -- Hagerty's Law -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: A couple of filter questions
Hi Jernej, Monday, January 07, 2002, 10:07:49 PM, you wrote: JS Hello Alan, JS 07. januar 2002, 22:29:00, you wrote: AO 1. Can't find the Maintenance mode for backup restore - where is it?? JS Tools - Backup, Tools - Restore Now I just feel stupid! AO Filter, where would that string go? And where can I find the list of variables like AO InAddrGroup (which I only know about from an earlier posting) JS Check the Advanced tab of Sorting Office. Oh yes, it scrolls I see.. JS After the message was filtered to another account it isn't processed JS by that account's filters. You might try to use local delivery, but it JS changes some headers... I guess the simplest way is to just copy the filter to fire on both account downloads. Thanks a lot, even for pointing out the obvious (oftentimes the hardest to spot of course!) Alan -- Alan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07 January 2002 Please note new email address - old one will continue to work for now -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
