Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-15 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello jwayne, Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 5:15:44 PM, you wrote: jwayne> What is the sound of one hand smacking? (my head, that is) Probably similar to the sound mine makes after realizing how to solve a bug in my software that had been staring me in the face the whole time! :grin: -- Leif Grego

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files

2004-07-15 Thread Anne
On Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 6:46:19 PM, subscriber2list wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] s> Today I ran across this email and took a look at the s> simple walkthrough ... it's pretty darn good and I hope to see more of s> thes in The Bat! Beginners Zone in the future. Your efforts seem to

Re[2]: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-14 Thread jwayne
On Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 7:01:04 PM, Leif Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: LG> Hello jwayne, LG> Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 4:57:09 PM, you wrote: jwayne>> Anyone have a suggestion for a TB-friendly arrow? LG> Yep... Put a single space before it. LG> -> What is the sound of one hand sma

Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-14 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello jwayne, Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 4:57:09 PM, you wrote: jwayne> Anyone have a suggestion for a TB-friendly arrow? Yep... Put a single space before it. -> -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Super Collider- n. Particle Accelerator syn. See A

Re[3]: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-14 Thread jwayne
On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 6:19:29 PM, Mike email (The Bat!) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MeTB> Hi MeTB> Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 1:38:27 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP>> Now see: "Options | Preferences | Viewer / Editor | Editor Preferences | MDP>> General (common for all editors) | Quote name

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files

2004-07-14 Thread Anne
On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 7:47:56 AM, Allister wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: A> Perhaps a little too paranoid in some eyes, but each to their own. But A> think about how much this capability alone could attract users if they A> could use at least the basic features with ease. Ther

Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Mike, @13-Jul-2004, 23:19 Mike email (The Bat!) said: MDP>> Now see: "Options | Preferences | Viewer / Editor | Editor MDP>> Preferences | General (common for all editors) | Quote name MDP>> limit". MDP>> and *set it to a sensible number*!!! > Default seems to be 20. Wha

Re[2]: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-13 Thread Mike email (The Bat!)
Hi Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 1:38:27 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP> Now see: "Options | Preferences | Viewer / Editor | Editor MDP> Preferences | General (common for all editors) | Quote name MDP> limit". MDP> and *set it to a sensible number*!!! Default seems to be 20. W

Re: OT: acronyms [was Re: The Bat! Help files ...]

2004-07-13 Thread Mike email (The Bat!)
Hi Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 10:07:51 PM, Mary Bull wrote: MB> Are you suggesting this as a feature to be added to The Bat! Or as MB> something for me to download as an adjunct program? A feature to be added but not a serious one. It works well in 40tude Dialog (which is primarily a news reader

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files

2004-07-13 Thread MAU
Hello Mike, > When reading a message the acronym appears underlined and hovering > over it brings up a comment showing the meaning stored. The e-mail client I used for 7 years before changing to TB had that feature. Very useful indeed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Usi

OT: acronyms [was Re: The Bat! Help files ...]

2004-07-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mike! On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 3:55 PM, you wrote: MB>> I had to ask Google to take me here, in order to understand that MB>> acronym: MeTB> So an acronym dictionary is needed, as in 40tude Dialog. When reading a MeTB> message the acronym appears underlined and hovering over MeTB> it bri

Re[2]: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files

2004-07-13 Thread Mike email (The Bat!)
Hello Mary, Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 2:17:32 PM, you wrote: MB> I had to ask Google to take me here, in order to understand that MB> acronym: So an acronym dictionary is needed, as in 40tude Dialog. When reading a message the acronym appears underlined and hovering over it brings up a comment

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-13 Thread Plan9
Monday, July 12, 2004, 11:03:30 PM, Mary wrote: MB> Hmm. I've been joking about the time machine :timemachine: but I MB> wonder. Could our mails be lost in here: :tm: A job is never finished until the paperwork is done. :-D -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: Two strings walk into a bar. The first str

Proposed TB! Help File Structure [was Re: The Bat! Help files ...]

2004-07-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allister! On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 1:47 AM, you wrote: AJ> I think the basic things to cover are: AJ> 1) Terms and concepts AJ> 2) Quick start AJ> 3) Detailed configuration AJ> 4) Coverage of ALL primary menus (not including pop-ups) AJ> 5) Editing (all editors) AJ> 6) Key topics (e.g. a

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files

2004-07-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Eric! On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 6:11 AM, you wrote: MB>> ... it [The Bat!'s Help File] never tells you *where* to find MB>> anything or *how* to use it in a way that the steps are easily MB>> followed. MB>> So, this list and the other TB! lists, plus tbot--those are your MB>> Help file.

Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Jwayne, @13-Jul-2004, 08:34 -0400 (13-Jul 13:34 UK time) jwayne said to Roelof: ... RO>> RO>> That's an awkward way of quoting. RO>> J> Blame TB! ... > Here's my template: ... Now see: "Options | Preferences | Viewer / Editor | Editor Preferences | General (common for all ed

Re[2]: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-13 Thread jwayne
On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 7:53:22 AM, Roelof Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RO> Hallo jwayne, RO> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:33:06 -0400GMT (13-7-2004, 13:33 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: RO> RO>> RO>> AJ> Documentation is part of a product. RO> RO>> That's an awkward way of quoting. RO>

Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-13 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo jwayne, On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:33:06 -0400GMT (13-7-2004, 13:33 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO>> RO>> AJ> Documentation is part of a product. RO>> That's an awkward way of quoting. J> Blame TB! I suppose I could do that, but then again: You're the only one I've noticed using that ki

Re[2]: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-13 Thread jwayne
On Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:32:07 PM, Roelof Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RO> Hallo jon, RO> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:04:18 -0400GMT (12-7-2004, 23:04 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: RO> RO>> AJ> Documentation is part of a product. RO> That's an awkward way of quoting. Blame TB! jon --

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-13 Thread Eric
Dear list, Mary said: MB> Among my first complaints here, during the evaluation MB> phase of my acquaintance with The Bat!, was that I MB> could not understand the Help file. It will tell you MB> what something does--ocasionally in words that mean MB> something to a newcomer--but it never tells yo

Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-13 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 6:58:18 PM, Roelof wrote: RO> Hallo Allister, RO> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:36:08 +1200GMT (13-7-2004, 8:36 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: AJ>> Perhaps the tag-line should change slightly. Replace 'natural' with AJ>> 'masochistic'. RO> You've lost me here. At the he

Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Allister, On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:36:08 +1200GMT (13-7-2004, 8:36 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AJ> Perhaps the tag-line should change slightly. Replace 'natural' with AJ> 'masochistic'. You've lost me here. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not ne

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files

2004-07-12 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 1:41:36 AM, Mary wrote (amongst other stuff): MB> I got The Bat! for its safety. Retired, with plenty of time, and MB> somewhat paranoid, I look at each message separately on the Dispatcher MB> and decide there whether to delete or download. Perhaps a little too paranoid i

Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-12 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 4:36:47 AM, Roelof wrote (amongst other stuff): RO> Though I certainly wouldn't say that TB is the best documented program RO> ever, I certainly can't blame RitLabs too much for the online help. Who else is going to provide it? Or are there people on this list that know t

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-12 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Monday, July 12, 2004 @ 1:34:35 PM, Allister Jenks wrote: [snips] MB>> In defense of RitLabs: the improvements that are being made in The MB>> Bat! are coming along so rapidly that any Help file would soon be MB>> obsolete. I consider that I am running an obsolete version, and I have MB>> the

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-12 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Plan9! On Monday, July 12, 2004, 9:54 PM, you wrote: P> Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:39:52 PM, Roelof wrote: RO>> The weirdest thing however, is that my real reply, composed an hour RO>> later was distributed within a few minutes, while my inadvertent (is RO>> that the correct word) reply took

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-12 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Plan9 - On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, at 22:54:04 [GMT -0400] (which was 7:54 PM where I live) you wrote: > Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:39:52 PM, Roelof wrote: > For me weird things have been happening all day as far a e-mail is > concerned. I have been gettin

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-12 Thread Plan9
Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:39:52 PM, Roelof wrote: RO> The weirdest thing however, is that my real reply, composed an hour RO> later was distributed within a few minutes, while my inadvertent (is RO> that the correct word) reply took over seven hours to get back to me. For me weird things have been

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-12 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Roelof! On Monday, July 12, 2004, 6:39 PM, you wrote: RO> It surprised me somewhat that this piece of [see h2g2 for RO> translation] didn't appear any sooner on this list. I think I may have been the only one to notice. :) And I forgave you immediately, for the sake of your budgies and bu

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roelof, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:29:30 +0200GMT (12-7-2004, 17:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:34:35 +1200GMT (12-7-2004, 7:34 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: It surprised me somewhat that this piece of shit didn't appear any sooner on this list. I wanted

Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo jon, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:04:18 -0400GMT (12-7-2004, 23:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO>> AJ> Documentation is part of a product. That's an awkward way of quoting. RO>> Though I certainly wouldn't say that TB is the best documented program RO>> ever, I certainly can't blame RitLa

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Allister, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:34:35 +1200GMT (12-7-2004, 7:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AJ> Monday, July 12, 2004, 12:06:58 PM, Mary wrote (amongst other stuff): MB>> In defense of RitLabs: the improvements that are being made in The MB>> Bat! are coming along so rapidly that any

Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Allister, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:34:35 +1200GMT (12-7-2004, 7:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AJ> Documentation is part of a product. Though I certainly wouldn't say that TB is the best documented program ever, I certainly can't blame RitLabs too much for the online help. Let's face i

Re[2]: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-12 Thread jwayne
On Monday, July 12, 2004, 12:36:47 PM, Roelof Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RO> Hallo Allister, RO> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:34:35 +1200GMT (12-7-2004, 7:34 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: RO> AJ> Documentation is part of a product. RO> Though I certainly wouldn't say that TB is the best

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files

2004-07-12 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allister! On Monday, July 12, 2004, 12:34 AM, you wrote: MB>> In defense of RitLabs: the improvements that are being made in The MB>> Bat! are coming along so rapidly that any Help file would soon be MB>> obsolete. I consider that I am running an obsolete version, and I have MB>> the latest

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-11 Thread Allister Jenks
Monday, July 12, 2004, 12:06:58 PM, Mary wrote (amongst other stuff): MB> In defense of RitLabs: the improvements that are being made in The MB> Bat! are coming along so rapidly that any Help file would soon be MB> obsolete. I consider that I am running an obsolete version, and I have MB> the late

The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-11 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Jimmie! On Sunday, July 11, 2004, 1:32 PM, you wrote: JT> Some instruction would be nice not just for Bayeslt but the entire program. You are not alone. Among my first complaints here, during the evaluation phase of my acquaintance with The Bat!, was that I could not understand the Help fi