Mary Bull wrote:
MB> So I hope the upcoming release will fix your txt2html.regexps
MB> function, since it seemed to be associated with the Smiley-display
MB> malfunction.
I was waiting for them to fix the crash on exit before I tried the
latest beta. I grabbed it last night and the images do ind
Hello George!
On Friday, January 26, 2007, 5:38 PM, you wrote:
ASK>> I'm using the txt2html.regexps to render text styles bold etc.,
ASK>> and its still working, just like the smilies.
> I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean to say that txt2html.regexps
> wasn't working - it's still converting the
Hello MFPA,
>> I don't trust URLs, but I trust on people I know. If I get a message
>> with URLs from someone I know, I will click on them whether they are
>> long, short, tiny or (perhaps) hidden by HTML (you know, 'click HERE').
>
> With tinyURLs you are also trusting a third party you do not kn
Hi
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 at 11:23:59 AM, in
, MAU wrote:
> I don't trust URLs, but I trust on people I know. If I get a message
> with URLs from someone I know, I will click on them whether they are
> long, short, tiny or (perhaps) hidden by HTML (you know, 'click HERE').
With tinyURLs yo
Hello Thomas,
> Maxim didn't post tinyurls, but that's not your point.
I said "I would have trusted...".
> While this is getting OT, I wonder why you go through all the trouble
> to create a tinyurl in the first place. ;-)
As a courtesy to my correspondents who don't use TB and would get
wrappe
Hello Perry,
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:32:46 -0500 GMT (31/01/2007, 22:32 +0700 GMT),
Perry Nelson wrote:
PN> Excessively long URLs "break" due to word wrap for users of Outlook
PN> or Outlook Express, and even those of them sophisticated enough to
PN> understand why the link doesn't work must
Hello Thomas,
Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 6:45:33 PM, you wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:04:03 +0100 GMT (31/01/2007, 21:04 +0700 GMT),
> Jurgen Haug wrote:
JH>> one can have preview links now on tinyurl
JH>> maybe that's made for you.
JH>> like this one here.
JH>> http://preview.tinyurl.co
Hello MAU,
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:23:59 +0100 GMT (31/01/2007, 18:23 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:
M> I don't trust URLs, but I trust on people I know. If I get a message
M> with URLs from someone I know, I will click on them whether they are
M> long, short, tiny or (perhaps) hidden by HTML (you know, '
Hello Jurgen,
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:04:03 +0100 GMT (31/01/2007, 21:04 +0700 GMT),
Jurgen Haug wrote:
JH> one can have preview links now on tinyurl
JH> maybe that's made for you.
JH> like this one here.
JH> http://preview.tinyurl.com/32rwwg
If people were posting the preview like you did, it
Hi Thomas,
Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 7:55:28 PM, you wrote:
TF> That's so inconvenient. Why go through all the trouble and create a
TF> tinyurl in the first place, if it is much more convenient for the
TF> sender and the receiver to just c&p the full URL into the mail?
Excessively long URLs "
Hello Thomas,
Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 2:01:40 AM, you wrote:
> The minimum I do for *every* URL before I click on it is look at the
> domain. If you don't want to send the full URL (why not?), it's really
> up to you whether or not you want to get your message accross, now
> that you know t
Hello Thomas,
M>> We are in a free world, at least that's what we like to think :) So, do
M>> as you please.
>
> I do. I'm sure you do, too. I just wanted to let you know why I never
> click on tinyurls, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. So, if you want
> people to click on the URLs you send (oth
Hello MAU,
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:46:08 +0100 GMT (30/01/2007, 23:46 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:
M> We are in a free world, at least that's what we like to think :) So, do
M> as you please.
I do. I'm sure you do, too. I just wanted to let you know why I never
click on tinyurls, and I'm sure I'm not t
Hello Perry,
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:45:19 -0500 GMT (31/01/2007, 00:45 +0700 GMT),
Perry Nelson wrote:
TF>> The suggsestion on this list was, IIRC, that if anybody wants to
TF>> send a tinyurl, he should also send the full URL. I myself will only
TF>> click only on the latter.
PN> I understand
Hi Thomas,
Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 8:19:36 AM, you wrote:
TF> The suggsestion on this list was, IIRC, that if anybody wants to
TF> send a tinyurl, he should also send the full URL. I myself will only
TF> click only on the latter.
I understand your reservations and my intent isn't to get you
Hello Thomas,
>>> Haven't your heard about 'http://tinyurl.com'? Works great!
>
ASK>> But why would anyone need it since we're using an email program that can
ASK>> handle these long lines without any problem?
>
> Sorry MAU, but I agree with Alex. I don't click on any tinyurl URLs,
> because it mi
Hello Alexander,
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:13:51 +0100 GMT (27/01/2007, 19:13 +0700 GMT),
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
ASK> on Saturday, January 27, 2007 at 13:01 you (MAU) wrote:
>> Haven't your heard about 'http://tinyurl.com'? Works great!
ASK> But why would anyone need it since we're using an emai
Hi
On Friday 26 January 2007 at 6:17:08 PM, in
, Alexander S. Kunz
wrote:
> A client ought to send via an ISPs/mail providers SMTP server
*Ought to* based on what? What is your argument against the
convenience of sending from your own domain (with appropriate SPF
record) via a local SMTP server
Hi
On Saturday 27 January 2007 at 12:13:51 PM, in
, Alexander S. Kunz
wrote:
> If you disable scripts, cookies and have an adblocker running, tinyurl
> won't work all of a sudden (don't know which of the three is causing it)
> - which means to mean that it must contain something that I really don
Hello Alexander,
>> Haven't your heard about 'http://tinyurl.com'? Works great!
>
> But why would anyone need it since we're using an email program that can
> handle these long lines without any problem?
Well, here (in this list) you are right. But I exchange email a lot of
people who don't use T
Hello Maxim,
>>Haven't your heard about 'http://tinyurl.com'? Works great!
> I don't like it, I don't see where will it point until I click it.
It's a good reason :)
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Hello Alexander,
Saturday, January 27, 2007, 18:45:22, you wrote:
>> Please also consider these URLs:
>> http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Q_21710324.html
>Well, thats the same (IMHO blind) obedience to the RFCs as if they were
>the source of all wisdom. :-}
If you have correctly confi
Hello Alexander,
Please also consider these URLs:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Q_21710324.html
http://www.mimedefang.org/kwiki/index.cgi?UseHeloToCatchSpam3
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Hello Alexander,
Saturday, January 27, 2007, 16:21:25, you wrote:
>Well, you're the programmer. Be creative. ;-) You could fall back to
>using the local IP in square brackets in that case, for example.
I made a test:
- Outlook Express 6 sends HELO LocalHost
- Microsoft Office 2003 Outlook sends E
Hello Alexander,
Saturday, January 27, 2007, 14:10:54, you wrote:
>If people choose to ignore the warning requester when (re)naming the
>computer, they have to live with the consequences.
When they install a localized Windows, there is no such warning, moreover,
Windows may offer a name with na
Hello Mau,
Saturday, January 27, 2007, 14:01:46, you wrote:
>Haven't your heard about 'http://tinyurl.com'? Works great!
I don't like it, I don't see where will it point until I click it.
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Hello Maxim,
> 1.
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.outlook.installation/browse_frm/thread/476cf8701fc0b0ea/7a9d7ec7ecec78c0?lnk=st&q=outlook+smtp+ehlo
> 2.
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mailing.postfix.users/browse_frm/thread/d7d249e4997f3a49/93e7003d0423c06d?lnk=st&q=outlo
Hello Alexander,
Friday, January 26, 2007, 0:02:17, you wrote:
>>When I try to use national characters, I get a requester telling me that
>>non-standard characters were used, that non-standard characters may not
>>be used in a computer network name, and that standard characters include
>>A-Z, a-z
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
ASK> on Friday, January 26, 2007 at 00:19 you (George Mitchell) wrote:
>> I'm using the txt2html.regexps trick to turn some external image
>> links into links to images on my hard drive. This quit working
>> along with the smileys, so it's not just the .msl mechanism that
Hello Alexander,
Friday, January 26, 2007, 21:54:02, you wrote:
>I consider the delay an annoyance, and it is there BECAUSE you are not
>using a simple HELO routine like it used to be.
Thank you, we will try to send HELO , but we have to figure out how to
get the name of the machine in Latin ch
Hello Alexander,
Friday, January 26, 2007, 20:32:59, you wrote:
>Ahm, this seems like a misunderstanding. I meant to turn the FQDN thing
>on or off.
To get what you mean "FQDN OFF" we should either resolve the full name (which
The Bat! does) and strip all the parts except the first word, or cal
Hello Alexander,
Friday, January 26, 2007, 20:30:22, you wrote:
>>Well, let the user configure its HELO string if its such an old and
>>unreliable beast.
How would the user know that a HELO string should be configured? E.g. you
didn't know which caused the delay, so the other users may not know
Hello Alexander,
Friday, January 26, 2007, 20:02:32, you wrote:
>>And can we *please* have a configuration switch to turn that... thing...
>>in TB *ON* or *OFF* as the user prefers it? ;-)
What should The Bat! send as the argument when it is OFF? The name of the
computer, returned by GetComputer
Hello Alexander,
Thursday, January 25, 2007, 0:28:20, you wrote:
>>That doesn't explain why there's no delay when using Outlook Express (if
>>the same mailserver is used, that is).
Outlook doesn't send the fully-qualified symbolic host name (FQDN) to the
server, which is also problematic. It ma
Mary Bull wrote:
>> Does that one work and it's just the "uber common" smileys that got
>> the different look?
MB> None of them work. Neither the PCWIZE collection nor the DEFAULT
MB> collection.
MB> It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken.
I think that's it exactly. My gue
Hello Leif!
On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 2:40 PM, you wrote:
>> It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken.
>> Thanks for chiming in, Leif.
> Ahhh. Well, so much for my $.02 then..
Leif, when you get time, could you do a complete msi install of this,
over the version you're
Hello Mary,
Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:19:05 PM, you wrote:
> It's as if the .msl's ability to call the image were broken.
> Thanks for chiming in, Leif.
Ahhh. Well, so much for my $.02 then..
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Hello Leif!
On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 1:58 PM, you wrote:
>> Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :(
> Just chiming in even though I haven't followed the whole thread and
> basing what I'm about to say off something I think I remember
> hearing. I could be wrong and am willing to tak
Hello Mary,
Thursday, January 25, 2007, 11:39:31 AM, you wrote:
> Abandoning all 9Val's and Leif's hard work. :(
Just chiming in even though I haven't followed the whole thread and
basing what I'm about to say off something I think I remember hearing.
I could be wrong and am willing to take a hit
Hello Peter!
On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 12:27 PM, you wrote:
MB>> ... I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons
MB>> and pics in The Bat!/Images feature.
MB>> And I think I am not alone in this.
> No, you're not! :) I reverted to the last beta before this MSI for
> that rea
Hi Mary,
on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 07:30:05 -0600GMT (25.01.2007, 14:30 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:
MB> On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 7:17 AM, you wrote:
>>> But, then, I can't see my pretty smiley images, that way either, of
>>> course. And I do miss them. Some of them are animated, especially
>>> th
Hello MAU!
On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 10:52 AM, you wrote:
>> Perhaps, after all, it is a bug inadvertently introduced into TB!'s
>> code.
> A bug that draws perfect rectangles around smileys? No way :-)
Smiley text! Not Smiley images!
LOL
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Hello Mary,
> Perhaps, after all, it is a bug inadvertently introduced into TB!'s
> code.
A bug that draws perfect rectangles around smileys? No way :-)
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Using The Bat! v3.95.8
Current ver
Hello MAU!
On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 8:52 AM, you wrote:
>> So, I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons and
>> pics in The Bat!/Images feature.
>>
>> And I think I am not alone in this.
>>
>> Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think.
> There must be other reason
Hello Mary,
> So, I hate to see RitLabs abandon the .msl plus resident icons and
> pics in The Bat!/Images feature.
>
> And I think I am not alone in this.
>
> Smiley-image haters are simply more vocal, I think.
There must be other reason. "Smiley-image haters" or "I couldn't care
less" users can
Hello Miguel!
On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 7:17 AM, you wrote:
>> But, then, I can't see my pretty smiley images, that way either, of
>> course. And I do miss them. Some of them are animated, especially
>> the PCWIZE collection. I'm a child at heart, and I like the fun of
>> them.
> Do you rea
Hello Mary,
> But, then, I can't see my pretty smiley images, that way either, of
> course. And I do miss them. Some of them are animated, especially the
> PCWIZE collection. I'm a child at heart, and I like the fun of them.
Do you really need any of the functionality in this last version? Think
Hello Miguel!
On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 6:31 AM, you wrote:
You mean the developers cannot force time into another dimension? :-)
>>> Oh yes! They can, they all do it every day. When they say that something
>>> will be ready in 2 weeks, the "dimension converter" will tell you that
>>>
Hello Mary,
>>> You mean the developers cannot force time into another dimension? :-)
>
>> Oh yes! They can, they all do it every day. When they say that something
>> will be ready in 2 weeks, the "dimension converter" will tell you that
>> in normal persons' dimension this means 2 or 7 months ;)
Hello Miguel!
On Thursday, January 25, 2007, 4:45 AM, you wrote:
>> You mean the developers cannot force time into another dimension? :-)
> Oh yes! They can, they all do it every day. When they say that something
> will be ready in 2 weeks, the "dimension converter" will tell you that
> in norma
Hello Chris,
> You mean the developers cannot force time into another dimension? :-)
Oh yes! They can, they all do it every day. When they say that something
will be ready in 2 weeks, the "dimension converter" will tell you that
in normal persons' dimension this means 2 or 7 months ;)
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MAU @ 2007-1-24 3:21:23 PM
"bat and router"
> Glad to hear that Maxim. I know you guys listen and I also
> understand that everything cannot be fixed at the same time. Some
> things come first and others have to wait.
You mean the developers cannot force time int
Hello Maxim,
>>>No, not any more. Previous versions did so but remember that now it
>>>sends:
>
>>>EHLO [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
>
>>>That is, the IP address. Something many of us don't like.
>
> This did only happen under Windows XP; we have fixed this today. New
> versions will not send this dotted-dec
Hello Alexander,
Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 20:35:25, you wrote:
>>No it doesn't. It sends "HELO [unroutable-local-ip]" here. Whether thats
>>good style is argueable.
We are using the new getnameinfo() API call and unfortunately under Windows XP
it returns error 11004. Under Windows 2003 or V
Hello Mau,
Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 20:27:25, you wrote:
>>No, not any more. Previous versions did so but remember that now it
>>sends:
>>EHLO [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
>>That is, the IP address. Something many of us don't like.
This did only happen under Windows XP; we have fixed this today. New
Hello Maxim,
> The Bat! sends
> "EHLO hostname"
> to the SMTP server.
No, not any more. Previous versions did so but remember that now it
sends:
EHLO [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
That is, the IP address. Something many of us don't like.
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Using The
Hello Alexander,
Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 18:36:48, you wrote:
>>Which is quite normal in home networks. I don't understand what this
>>recent fuzz about FQDNs and name resolutions in combination with TB is
>>about. TB is a mail client, not a server.
The Bat! sends
"EHLO hostname"
to the SM
Hi there lee,
> I run The Bat version 3.96.6 with a Netgear DG632 ADSL Modem Router and
> whenever I
> send mail there's a delay for exactly 13 seconds and then the message will
> finally go. After
> that messages go straight away...until I close and re-open The Bat when I get
> the
> delay ag
Hello Lee,
Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 4:10:18, you wrote:
>>Odd problem. I run The Bat version 3.96.6 with a Netgear DG632 ADSL Modem
>>Router and whenever I
>>send mail there's a delay for exactly 13 seconds and then the message will
>>finally go.
It may be a problem with name resolution -
Odd problem. I run The Bat version 3.96.6 with a Netgear DG632 ADSL Modem
Router and whenever I
send mail there's a delay for exactly 13 seconds and then the message will
finally go. After
that messages go straight away...until I close and re-open The Bat when I get
the
delay again.
It's defin
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