Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Gerard
ON Monday, October 25, 2004, 7:12:48 PM, you wrote: TF No, for sent messages, TB will not tell you when it was actually sent. TF I am missing that as well. Hi Thomas, If you select to display the sent date, which you can in the outbox view, it will show the create date (which is the saved date)

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread admin
Hi Folks, the filter does NOT move the message as it is intended to. Can any of you offer a suggestion as to why this filter doesn't work? 'Cos no one seemed to have noticed when TB was beta tested! Or no one chose to do anything about it after beta test. Join the 'my filters don't

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof, snipped No, the best way to keep track of when you sent your message is to BCC it to yourself. It'll have a Received: header from your ISP and it's the same as what you sent. Fully agree with all you say. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat!

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread MAU
Hello WilWilWil, In the source of a message, I can see the date I've wrote it and saved. But if I don't send the message immediately, just save it, I can't find a way to know the date and time I've sent it (sometimes 3 days after wrote it). If you keep a message in the Outbox for let's

Re: Migration from v1.6 to 2.12

2004-10-26 Thread MAU
Hello z5worg, How do I get the WinXP computer to pick up all the accounts in the Mail directory AND the message filters for each Account -- without having to re-create all of them? Create a new account and name it exactly as the old account. TB will find its corresponding directory in the

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread MAU
Hello Perry, Can any of you offer a suggestion as to why this filter doesn't work? I'm not sure if this may be the problem but why don't you try changing: Sender contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Header_field From: contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial -

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi MAU, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 5:14:08 AM, you wrote: M I'm not sure if this may be the problem but why don't you try changing: M Sender contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] M to M Header_field From: contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] Done. However, the outcome is the same. The dialog reports that it

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi admin, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 4:43:37 AM, you wrote: aacu Join the 'my filters don't work' club! ... like the man who had been tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail. When asked how he was feeling, the victim said that if it weren't for the honor of the thing, he would

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 25-Oct-04 10:01pm -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: Can any of you offer a suggestion as to why this filter doesn't work? Can't confirm. I copied and pasted your filter and only changed the target folder to one of my subfolders. Next, I sent myself a message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] The test

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Gerard
ON Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 12:34:35 PM, you wrote: PN Done. However, the outcome is the same. The dialog reports that it PN was filtered, but the message isn't moved. Hi Perry, Could you try adding to the filter the set flag action or something similar. You should have both the Move to

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Gerard, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 7:14:49 AM, you wrote: G Could you try adding to the filter the set flag action or something G similar. You should have both the Move to folder as the set flag G action. An excellent idea!! I'm so enthusiastic because I had thought of it too

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Bill, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 7:12:56 AM, you wrote: BM Can't confirm. I copied and pasted your filter and only changed the BM target folder to one of my subfolders. Next, I sent myself a message BM from [EMAIL PROTECTED] The test mail was moved properly to my BM target folder. Thanks

Re: Occasional freezing problems

2004-10-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Atanas, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:32:47 +0300 GMT (26/10/2004, 01:32 +0700 GMT), Atanas Vasilev wrote: Are you using dial-up? What is your Windows version? AV it could be happening while checking mail, but certainly not only then - AV because I have my POP3 account set to be checked every

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Perry and list, On Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 07:55:03 GMT -0400 (which was 13:55 where I live) Perry Nelson wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of New filter does not move message: [Test filters] It says, Processed by: New Rule. Actions performed:

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gerard, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:21:24 +0200 GMT (26/10/2004, 13:21 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G If you select to display the sent date, which you can in the outbox view, G it will show the create date (which is the saved date) as the send date. G Maybe a small bug :-) Over here, the Created

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:04:09 +0200 GMT (26/10/2004, 16:04 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M If instead of unparking the message in the Outbox by clicking on the M parked flag you double click on on the message it will open in the M editor. Then, if you do send it from the editor the message's

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Michael, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 8:08:51 AM, you wrote: MG Action performed: without any more indicator means there is no MG action associated to this filter. May be that filter is a remaining MG result of some experimenting. Thanks for your input. As I read the flow chart view of

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Allie Martin
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 5:34:35 AM [GMT -0500], Perry Nelson wrote: Done. However, the outcome is the same. The dialog reports that it was filtered, but the message isn't moved. .. but filtered by what? Are you sure it's being filtered by the correct filter and that another filter

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 26 Oct 2004, @ @ at 02:21:28 +0200, when Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Eric, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:10:13 +0100GMT (26-10-2004, 0:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: 6MB A Wish

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Allie, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 8:26:23 AM, you wrote: AM I'd try putting the problem filter at the top of the filter list and AM try again. Eureka! That did it. The message is now moved. However, that poses a question. Must all new filters be moved to the top of the list?

Connection broken before Message Dispatcher displays

2004-10-26 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Everyone! I have just had an experience that never happened to me before. For about 15 minutes, while my number of mails increased from 4 to 9, the Connection Centre would announce the number of mails and then just sit there without displaying them on the Message Dispatcher. Log file would

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Allie Martin
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 7:39:25 AM [GMT -0500], Perry Nelson wrote: Eureka! That did it. The message is now moved. :) Ok. I'm not surprised since the filter was so simple and really aught to work, provided the intended message actually gets to the filter. However, that poses a

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Michael Acklin
Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 5:34:35 AM, (Internet Time - @482) you wrote: Hello Perry, PN Done. However, the outcome is the same. The dialog reports that it PN was filtered, but the message isn't moved. PN Thanks for your suggestion. Here's the way the filter looks now. PN TB!

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Perry and list, On Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 08:28:17 GMT -0400 (which was 14:28 where I live) Perry Nelson wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of New filter does not move message: Thanks for your input. You're welcome :-) As I read the flow

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Gerard
ON Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 1:43:57 PM, you wrote: PN Hi Gerard, PN Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 7:14:49 AM, you wrote: G Could you try adding to the filter the set flag action or something G similar. You should have both the Move to folder as the set flag G action. PN An excellent idea!!

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Michael, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 9:15:20 AM, you wrote: MG My guess is: there is a filter New rule which prevents the MG Yahoo filter from catching your message. Right you are, Michael! I'm sure you've seen by now that I discovered that rule and have since deleted it ... and now my

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Allie, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 9:02:48 AM, you wrote: AM So your new filter doesn't have to be at the top of the list if you AM know that the messages it's supposed to filter will not be caught by AM another filter. I'm convinced my problem was caused by the New Rule filter mentioned

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Gerard, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 9:27:46 AM, you wrote: G At least we all learned something ;-) Indeed. One of my favorite taglines is the best thing about a mistake is the joy it brings to others. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, No. An unparked message can sit in the Outbox for days due to connection problems. Then it will suddenly be sent. Who is to know on which day? Yes, of course. That is a quite common situation, happens here several times a day ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Perry and list, On Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 09:35:39 GMT -0400 (which was 15:35 where I live) Perry Nelson wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of New filter does not move message: Right you are, Michael! I'm sure you've seen by now that I discovered

Re[2]: Occasional freezing problems

2004-10-26 Thread P.Johnson
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 10:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... AV it could be happening while checking mail, but certainly not only then - AV because I have my POP3 account set to be checked every 15 minutes and the AV freezing occurs every 20 - 30 seconds. TF I am now thinking that maybe

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Tue 26-Oct-04 6:55am -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: It says, Processed by: New Rule. Actions performed: What does that tell us? Does the fact that nothing follows the Actions performed: portion indicate that no actions were performed, which is consistent with what I am seeing? If you perform

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mica, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:40:02 +0200GMT (26-10-2004, 13:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: I'd be very surprised if such a wish would be fulfilled. It would be a departure from the current way of thought behind TB. It would mean TB would change messages after/on sending them. TB's

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Bill, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 12:04:06 PM, you wrote: BM What that tells us is that your filter is not being triggered at BM all. Instead, another filter called New Rule is being triggered - BM which performs no action - and no additional filters are being BM triggered. This process has

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Mike Dillinger
Message from Roelof Otten on 10/25/04 05:21 PM PT quoted: I'd be very surprised if such a wish would be fulfilled. It would be a departure from the current way of thought behind TB. It would mean TB would change messages after/on sending them. TB's strongest feature until now is that it doesn't do

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Tue 26-Oct-04 11:13am -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: As I'm sure you have already seen, I did discover the New Role filter and deleted it. Once that was done, my filter (and a couple of others) performed as expected. I have now read the thread and am confused by your comment in mid:[EMAIL

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo WilWilWil, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200GMT (25-10-2004, 0:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: W In the source of a message, I can see the date I've wrote it W and saved. But if I don't send the message immediately, just save W it, I can't find a way to know the date and time I've

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 26 Oct 2004, @ @ at 18:19:22 +0200, when Roelof Otten wrote: MM Netscape Messenger is an example having such feature, and it is quite MM simple, normal, and standard one.

Re: Occasional freezing problems

2004-10-26 Thread Gerard
ON Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 6:03:09 PM, you wrote: PJ I'm coming in late on this, but FWIW, I also experienced this kind of PJ freezing in TB!, version 2.12 I think it was, and it made composing PJ emails almost unbearable. I ended up reinstalling my OS-- and PJ eventually upgrading to XP. I'm

Re[2]: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Peter Hampf
Good evening Roelof, on Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:59:58 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: RO As you can see in my messages in this thread, I'm not quite in favour RO of people doing this like you're suggesting. well, Roelof, I can understand your point of view - and it isn't a new one. In

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:32:14 +0200GMT (26-10-2004, 20:32 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PH Let me make a third suggestion: The best way to keep track about the PH date/time a message has actually been sent would be an addition to the PH database. TB must only

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Bill, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 12:50:27 PM, you wrote: BM I have now read the thread and am confused by your comment in BM mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PN I have checked continue processing despite the fact that this PN filter is the last in my list of filters. I don't have any common PN

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Tue 26-Oct-04 3:42pm -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: Does that clear up the sequence? Yes :-) I'm glad your filters are now working as expected. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version

Re: New filter does not move message

2004-10-26 Thread MFPA
Hi On Tuesday, 26 October, 2004, at 3:13:52 PM, Michael Geyer wrote: That's one of the effects of a missing cancel button in NFS - if I'm allowed to throw in this thought :-) I have never been able to find a cancel button in OLD filter system. -- Best regards, MFPA

hard code percent sign (i.e. %) in QT?

2004-10-26 Thread Greg Strong
Hello TBBETA, Anyway to hard code a percent sign (i.e. %) so it actually shows up in a message derived from a quick template? I know % are used in macros, but what happens if you really want to show a percent sign in the message that you want to send. Never really tried it until I needed it

Re: hard code percent sign (i.e. %) in QT?

2004-10-26 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 5:09:35 PM, Greg wrote: GS Anyway to hard code a percent sign (i.e. %) so it actually shows up in a GS message derived from a quick template? Don't know for fact, but often something like %% should work. I.e. double-up the 'escape' character (% in this case). --