Re: filter question

2011-05-26 Thread Luc
 Good afternoon Roger,
  
It was foretold that
on 26/05/2011 @ 07:19:43 GMT+0200 (which was 02:19:43 where I live)
Roger Phillips would write:

snipped a bit

 Try 'Recipient match @forumname'

Tnx roger and agent.
 
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Re: filter question

2011-05-26 Thread Luc
 Good afternoon Roger,
  
It was foretold that
on 26/05/2011 @ 07:19:43 GMT+0200 (which was 02:19:43 where I live)
Roger Phillips would write:

snipped a bit

 Try 'Recipient match @forumname'

No luck. Testing the filter gives me the message that it has been
moved but the message didn't actually move to the right folder.
 
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Re: filter question -SOLVED

2011-05-26 Thread Luc
 Good afternoon list,
  
Well it seems TB! was in a lazy mood ... after a few minutes the
filter kicked in and fo the time being all is well :-)


 
 
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Re: filter question

2011-05-26 Thread mark
Hi Luc and others -

  i receive mail notifications from a forum but unfortunately it's in
  the format membername@forumname.

  I just can't seem to recall how to filter just on the @forumname
  part.

  Any pointers?

I use Header Contains thebat.dutaint.com to filter (and move to a folder) all 
emails from this list.  You could try: Header Contains @forumname, and if that 
doesn't work then: Header Contains forumname. 

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Re: filter question

2011-05-25 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Luc,

Thursday, May 26, 2011, 6:49:40 AM, among other things, you wrote:

L  i receive mail notifications from a forum but unfortunately it's in
L  the format membername@forumname.

L  I just can't seem to recall how to filter just on the @forumname
L  part.

L  Any pointers?
Try 'Recipient match @forumname'

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Re: Filter question

2006-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thomas,

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:29:51 + (UTC)GMT (6-7-2006, 13:29 , where I
live), you wrote:

TF How could I get the mails in Inboxes of accounts B and C automatically 
marked
TF read, while the copies in the folders of account A remain unread?

Create sub-filters for your common filters and have those subfilters
set the message as read.
Something else that might work is set a second action for your filters
that sets the message as read after you've copied it.

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Re: Filter question

2006-07-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof,

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:58:46 +0200 GMT (06/07/2006, 19:58 +0700 GMT),
Roelof Otten wrote:

TF How could I get the mails in Inboxes of accounts B and C automatically 
marked
TF read, while the copies in the folders of account A remain unread?

RO Create sub-filters for your common filters and have those subfilters
RO set the message as read.

Apart from creating over 100 subfilters: Would these only mark the
originals as read, not the copies?

And if so, is there a way use just one filter, instead of having to
create so many subfilters?

RO Something else that might work is set a second action for your filters
RO that sets the message as read after you've copied it.

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Re: filter question

2004-11-23 Thread Gerard

ON Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 2:21:49 AM, you wrote:
L Hello Stuart,
  


L individual message to John Doe: no problem

This should be Recipient matches [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( exact match)

L Next two scenarios:

L - message to various people (not always the same ones) but including
L John Doe.

This should be Recipient starts with [EMAIL PROTECTED]

L - message to the group, always including John Doe.

This should be Recipient starts with [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Works if he is not the first in the recipient list.

You can also use:
Recipient contains [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  and  Recipient contains someone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
But you would have to know who the second person is.
If you organize your contacts in named address books you can mail and filter on
these addressbooks like this:

addressgroups Friends contains sender.

Place this one before the John Doe filter and your done.

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Re: filter question

2004-11-23 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 22-Nov-04 4:33pm -0600, Luc wrote:

  i've made a filter that moves a send message into a separate send
  folder. The purpose is to have mail send to a certain person to be
  moved in a folder that i have created for that person (something like
  john doe, send messages). The condition is recipient contains
  mail address . So far so good. Here comes the tricky part:
  sometimes i need to send mail to a bunch of co-workers(including
  that person) and i want those messages to be excluded, in other words
  in that case the send mail should not end up in that special
  folder. That same person also belongs to a group and if i mail that
  group, it should also not be moved to that
 folder. Which condition(s)
  should i add to the filter?

Assume John Doe's address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Header field - To - contains - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AND - Header field - To - does not match - ,
AND - Header field - CC - does not contain - @

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Re: filter question

2004-11-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Luc,

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 02:21:49 +0100GMT (23-11-2004, 2:21 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

L individual message to John Doe: no problem

Create an AB group johndoe, especially for John Doe

Create a filter with condition:
address group 'johndoe' contains 'all recipients'

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Re: filter question

2004-11-23 Thread Gerard

ON Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 4:43:34 PM, you wrote:
RO Create an AB group johndoe, especially for John Doe

RO Create a filter with condition:
RO address group 'johndoe' contains 'all recipients'

Hi Roelof,

That is some nice out of the box thinking or is this revese logic ;-)
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Re: filter question

2004-11-22 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Luc,
Monday, November 22, 2004, 4:33:09 PM, you wrote:

L  Good evening list,  

L  i've made a filter that moves a send message into a separate send
L  folder. The purpose is to have mail send to a certain person to be
L  moved in a folder that i have created for that person (something like
L  john doe, send messages). The condition is recipient contains
L  mail address . So far so good. Here comes the tricky part:
L  sometimes i need to send mail to a bunch of co-workers(including
L  that person) and i want those messages to be excluded, in other words
L  in that case the send mail should not end up in that special
L  folder. That same person also belongs to a group and if i mail that
L  group, it should also not be moved to that folder. Which condition(s)
L  should i add to the filter?

If the group you mail to always contains the same people, you could
just add an AND condition that says does not contain John Doe,
assuming the group always contains John Doe.
 

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Re: filter question

2004-11-22 Thread Luc
Hello Stuart,
  
It was foretold that on 23-11-2004 @ 19:09:24 GMT-0600 (which was
2:09:24 where I live) Stuart Cuddy would write:
  
snipped a bit

SC If the group you mail to always contains the same people, you could
SC just add an AND condition that says does not contain John Doe,
SC assuming the group always contains John Doe.

Maybe it's better if i make it a bit more clear:

individual message to John Doe: no problem

Next two scenarios:

- message to various people (not always the same ones) but including
John Doe.

- message to the group, always including John Doe.

Now, in scenario two, your solution would work :-)

But i get a a feeling that in the first scenario a solution isn't
possible  (except maybe with regex but i'm not an expert on it)
 
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Re: Filter question

2004-07-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo M,

On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 20:31:30 +0800GMT (4-7-2004, 14:31 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MIC What I would like to do is have the program automatically
MIC move the parked messages into the folder after a certain length
MIC of time. (Say, five days.)

You can't do that automatically, however you could do that by
triggering the filter manually.

MIC In the 'advanced' tab of the filter I can tell it only to
MIC work if the message is parked, read and over 4 days old, but I
MIC have some difficulties:

MIC 1) what triggers the filter?

The conditions of the filter (in the first place)
Combined with the message being received, read or answered (depending
on the filter) these are bypassed by executing the filter manually.

MIC 2) When running the filter manually, sometimes it moves the
MIC messages but sometimes it copies them, which is a major problem.

That's because your messages are parked, being parked means that they
won't be deleted, so moving ends in copying as the message appears in
the keep-folder but 'forgets' to disappear in the source folder.

Maybe it'll help if you set the filter to unpark the message.

MIC (As an aside, the organisation of filters in TheBat! leaves
MIC a LOT to be desired as well. Coming from Agent, where filter
MIC management was simple and clear, it was something of a shock to
MIC find that such powerful filters were so difficult to keep
MIC organised.)

Though I've used Agent only for news, I must say that I've never
really understood Agent's filtering mechanisms. I suppose it's part of
TB's filtering strength that the filters are executed in the order you
place them. As for keeping them organised, I'm using a couple of dummy
filters to divide my sorting office in sections, they're filters with
an impossible condition, like  in
recipient, but as names they're using long strings as this:
 Mailinglists **
That means that while browsing through the sorting office I easily
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Re: Filter question

2004-07-04 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Sunday, July 4, 2004 @ 11:39:55 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

[snips]

MIC What I would like to do is have the program automatically
MIC move the parked messages into the folder after a certain length
MIC of time. (Say, five days.)

Roelof You can't do that automatically, however you could do that by
Roelof triggering the filter manually.

Ah, pain. OK, can I set all my manual filters to the same hotkey to trigger them? (I 
can then surely find a way to get my macro program to trigger them - annoying, but a 
solution...)

MIC In the 'advanced' tab of the filter I can tell it only to
MIC work if the message is parked, read and over 4 days old, but I
MIC have some difficulties:

MIC 1) what triggers the filter?

Roelof The conditions of the filter (in the first place)
Roelof Combined with the message being received, read or answered (depending
Roelof on the filter) these are bypassed by executing the filter manually.

Thanks, but I meant what makes it trigger automatically, like it being midnight, or 
the like, not the filter conditions. Languages are fun :-)

MIC 2) When running the filter manually, sometimes it moves the
MIC messages but sometimes it copies them, which is a major problem.

Roelof That's because your messages are parked, being parked means that they
Roelof won't be deleted, so moving ends in copying as the message appears in
Roelof the keep-folder but 'forgets' to disappear in the source folder.

Very annoying, given that I've told the filter to MOVE the PARKED messages - it's 
pretty explicit.

Roelof Maybe it'll help if you set the filter to unpark the message.

Then it'll move everything over the age limit, not just the parked messages, as 
they'll no longer be parked? I need to test this later today with a dummy folder and 
copied messages.

MIC (As an aside, the organisation of filters in TheBat! leaves
MIC a LOT to be desired as well. Coming from Agent, where filter
MIC management was simple and clear, it was something of a shock to
MIC find that such powerful filters were so difficult to keep
MIC organised.)

Roelof Though I've used Agent only for news, I must say that I've never
Roelof really understood Agent's filtering mechanisms.

Very elegant, really - filters have a priority of 1-1000, and the closer to 1000 the 
number is, the higher up the list it is, and the earlier it is executed.

Roelof I suppose it's part of
Roelof TB's filtering strength that the filters are executed in the order you
Roelof place them.

Same as Agent.

Roelof As for keeping them organised, I'm using a couple of dummy
Roelof filters to divide my sorting office in sections, they're filters with
Roelof an impossible condition, like  in
Roelof recipient, but as names they're using long strings as this:
Roelof  Mailinglists **
Roelof That means that while browsing through the sorting office I easily
Roelof find my filters for mailing lists, for AB filters, etc

Seriously clunky work around, though. (Although I might have to adopt it :-)

The other advantage of Agent's filters are that they are in a normal resizable window, 
not just a tiny box, and they're searchable, which is a huge plus.

Don't get me wrong, the filtering in TheBat! is very powerful, it's just that like the 
documentation, it could do with a lot of improving in various areas.

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Re: Filter question

2004-07-04 Thread Robin Anson
On Mon 5 July 2004, 1:39:55 +1000, Roelof Otten wrote:
MIC What I would like to do is have the program automatically
MIC move the parked messages into the folder after a certain length
MIC of time. (Say, five days.)
 
 You can't do that automatically, however you could do that by
 triggering the filter manually.

There might be another approach, a bit clumsy but it can be automated,
using command line parameters. You could start up TB! using a command
line batch file (look in the help file for details) that exported certain
parked messages from the folder, and imported them into another.

The main problem appears to be that although you can specify an age in
days, it only exports those younger that that age.

You would have to export and delete ALL parked messages from your tbudl
folder to your keep folder, and then re-export and delete the younger
messages from keep back to tbudl.

If you start up TB! on a daily (or more frequent) basis, that should do
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Re: Filter Question

2004-05-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Russell,

On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:50:09 -0500GMT (26-5-04, 22:50 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RLF I'm a bit confused as to what they were formatted for. The
RLF BeginFilter and EndFilter indicate it is part of some
RLF program. If not, how would you go about using it in the current
RLF version of TB.

I don't know the site you saw these filters, but TB allows you to copy
and paste filters from the sorting office to a text editor and back.

Go to the sorting office
Select a filter
Press Ctrl-C (don't use the 'copy'-button that duplicates the filter)
Go to a text editor (eg a new message in TB)
Press  Ctrl-V

Now you'll find a filter in text format, this is an example from my
filters:

BeginFilter
Name: Familieleden
Active: 1
Source: \\roelof\Inbox
Target: \\roelof\Familie\Familiepost
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 00@
Actions: faoAdvAddressIn,faoAdvAddressInGroups
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: Familie
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

In order to copy this filter into your sorting office, you select it
(including the BeginFilter and EndFilter) copy it (Ctrl-C or
whatever), go to the sorting office and paste it with Ctrl-V (no other
way)
Though you can copy only one filter at a time from the sorting office,
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Re: Filter Question

2004-05-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Russell,

On Wed, 26 May 2004 17:58:57 -0500GMT (27-5-04, 0:58 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RLF Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 5:53:25 PM, you wrote:

Well, actually I have to correct you on that. It was Thursday, May 27,
0:53 AM when (and where) I wrote that.

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Re: Filter question

2003-11-11 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Stuart,

@11-Nov-2003, 13:01 -0600 (11-Nov 19:01 UK time) Stuart Cuddy said:

 The Known filter has a check box at he bottom that says
 Continue processing with other filters.

Oops. That's a mistake. Once a filter has moved a message out of the
inbox, continuation is pointless. The message is no longer there to
*be* processed by any other filter!

 Since I want to have these particular emails go into a seperate
 folder I have created a rule that sends all tbudl messages to that
 folder.

You'll have to move that one above the Known filter - that's the
only way it will ever get to see the messages.

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Re: Filter question

2003-11-11 Thread Chris
On Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 2:29:59 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote
in the message Filter question
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The Known filter has a check box at he bottom that says Continue
 processing with other filters.

 Oops. That's a mistake. Once a filter has moved a message out of the
 inbox, continuation is pointless. The message is no longer there to
 *be* processed by any other filter!

Then that box needs to be removed or Continue processing with other
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Re: Filter question

2003-11-11 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Chris,

@11-Nov-2003, 17:32 -0500 (11-Nov 22:32 UK time) Chris [C] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

 The Known filter has a check box at he bottom that says
 Continue processing with other filters.

 ... Once a filter has moved a message out of the inbox,
 continuation is pointless ...

C Then that box needs to be removed or Continue processing with
C other filters needs to work.

Not at all. The box should (maybe) be disabled if a filter is
configured to move messages out of the inbox. But remember that
filters do different things when run as a re-filter operation.

No, I'm satisfied that the only thing wrong here is the
understanding of what the Continue option means in the context of
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Re: Filter question

2003-10-31 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi P,

@31-Oct-2003, 12:24 -0600 (18:24 UK time) P.Johnson said:

 Is there any reason why TB! would not automatically filter a
 message (when Manual only is not ticked in the filter rule) but
 will do so when asked to Re-filter Messages (Folderright click)?

Sometimes rules used to get corrupted. I would often have to
re-create a rule from scratch to get it to work again. No amount of
tweaking would put it right.

 ... Could the adding of a new rule upset the system somehow (for
 example, by changing the order of the rules)?

It's possible.

 In the Sorting Office under the Options tab, should I always have
 the Continue processing with other filters box checked?

Certainly not. It's very much a special case option. Normally a
rule has moved a message and it's no longer in the Inbox to process
any further with other filters.

 ... I have rules set up to allow only specific incoming messages.

Where? In Selective download filters? I don't really understand
how you have done that. You would have to either selectively
download messages you want or have inbox filters to delete messages
you don't want after download. Why not just suppress download on
that account completely and let the primary account move the
relevant messages across the account boundary?

 When I add a new rule I just enter the information step by step
 and double-check it all, but am not having a lot of success. Any
 advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Filter question

2003-10-31 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello P.Johnson,

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:26:33 -0600 GMT (01/11/2003, 05:26 +0700 GMT),
P.Johnson wrote:

 What I meant to say is that many of my messages come through one of
 the accounts (Account A) and are filtered through to folders in other
 accounts. Fine. These messages coming through Account A are also
 duplicated to another account inbox (Account X). Account X shares the
 same pop account with Account A, which I guess is why this occurs.

So they are not duplicated by way of a TB filter.

 Account X uses different From and Reply To addresses for a separate
 business. Now I've set up a filter that trashes all the dupes except
 those addressed to the business. Is this the most efficient way to do
 this?

Not, it isn't. Since they are the same POP box, you need to check them
with only one TB account.

But you don't need to create different accounts in TB for different
identities either. I use alias addresses for my main address as well,
and I have all of them in the same account. However, the different
mail aliases have different purposes, so the mails end up in different
folders. These folder then have different settings under:

Folder / Properties / Identity

Maybe you want to check out this way of dealing with it?

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Re: Filter question

2003-10-31 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi P,

@31-Oct-2003, 16:26 -0600 (22:26 UK time) P.Johnson said to Marck:

M Sometimes rules used to get corrupted. I would often have to
M re-create a rule from scratch to get it to work again.

 I didn't realize this happened. Too bad this is the case, but it's
 important to know.

I haven't had it happen for a long time, mind, so this could just be
a red herring.

 .. These messages coming through Account A are also duplicated to
 another account inbox (Account X). Account X shares the same pop
 account with Account A, which I guess is why this occurs. Account
 X uses different From and Reply To addresses for a separate
 business.

You don't need this degree of separation with TB. Keep them all
together and segregate by folder and use an account reply template
that sets reply-to and from addresses according to the original
recipient of the message:

%REPLYTO=''%REPLYTO='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-
%FROM=''%FROM='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-

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Re: Filter question

2003-10-31 Thread George Mitchell
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 You don't need this degree of separation with TB. Keep them all
 together and segregate by folder and use an account reply template
 that sets reply-to and from addresses according to the original
 recipient of the message:

 %REPLYTO=''%REPLYTO='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-
 %FROM=''%FROM='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-

Isn't that pretty dangerous?  Using that template, suppose you reply to
a message that was CC'd to you, or one where your address wasn't the
first one in a list of address in the To field.  Wouldn't you be
replying using someone else's address?

I posted a question about my attempt at a workable template for this a
week ago, but got no replies. :-(

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Re: Filter question

2003-10-31 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi George,

@31-Oct-2003, 18:35 -0800 (01-Nov 02:35 UK time) George Mitchell
said:

 You don't need this degree of separation with TB. Keep them all
 together and segregate by folder and use an account reply
 template that sets reply-to and from addresses according to the
 original recipient of the message:

 %REPLYTO=''%REPLYTO='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-
 %FROM=''%FROM='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-

 Isn't that pretty dangerous?  Using that template, suppose you
 reply to a message that was CC'd to you, or one where your address
 wasn't the first one in a list of address in the To field.
 Wouldn't you be replying using someone else's address?

Oh yes, but this was a response to a *specific* situation when
replying to mails known to be sent *to* a specific address. This
solution can be fine tuned for any application using advice from the
gurus on TBTECH for a regex to make a better decision about what to
put.

With TBv2 the template macros come alive and are almost a
programming language. Which you have already discovered...

 I posted a question about my attempt at a workable template for
 this a week ago, but got no replies. :-(

It's probably too advanced for the UDL forum. I will have another
look at it and see if I can offer any helpful hints.

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Re: Filter question

2003-10-31 Thread George Mitchell
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 I posted a question about my attempt at a workable template for
 this a week ago, but got no replies. :-(

 It's probably too advanced for the UDL forum. I will have another
 look at it and see if I can offer any helpful hints.

Much appreciated.  I was going to try TBTECH, but got a bit distracted
this week by the fires here in the San Diego area.

I have since tried variations of the ToAll macro you posted in the
Macro and QT repository with some success, but am having trouble
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Re: Filter question

2003-10-13 Thread Vishal
Hi Adam

Monday, October 13, 2003, 2:41:14 PM, you wrote:


A And how do you tell a filter not to move messages elsewhere?

If Inbox is the folder where the mails arrive, move to Inbox should do the
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Re: Filter question

2003-10-13 Thread Urban
Monday, October 13, 2003, Adam wrote:

 In TB 2.0, in Sorting Office, on the options tab, there is an option
 This rule is executed only by pressing the hotkey. snip
 I am wondering, how does TB 1.6 behave? How would you specify that the
 filter does not execute just anytime, along with all the other
 filters?

You made a manual filter and gave it a hotkey. Then you made sure /not/
to mark manual filters when you refiltered a folder.

 And how do you tell a filter not to move messages elsewhere?

Can't do that. What you can do, however, is to simulate it by moving the
filtered messages to the same folder as the source folder

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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-06 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Gerrit,

Sunday, October 5, 2003, 12:49:02 AM, you wrote:

GK You could add the other line in your first filter with presence
GK no. That will di i think. Are you sure it is not crossposted?


moderator

This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to
the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated
this reply. Please don't feel singled out Gerrit.

Please trim replies to context. Try to cut out as much of the original
text as possible in your replies so that your response is targeted to
specific items in the message you are replying to. You don't
necessarily need four layers of quoted material to respond to the last
comment made. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has
been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the
quoted text, and/or the PGP signature.

We have list archives for the purposes of being able to go back to
view the entire thread contents.

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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread Gerrit Kruijer
Hello John,

Sunday, October 5, 2003, 8:14:40 AM, you wrote:


John Hi Bat! Fans,

John Using MyGate to download  upload from /to news groups, just a filter
John question.

John I am subscribing to news groups aus.comms and aus.comms.mobile.

John If a message is cross posted to both of these news groups, it is
John sorted, with my current filters to both news groups, causing dupes.

John In other words, I am receiving in both of the above news groups the
John original message destined for the news group, plus the original.

John The filter for aus.comms is as follows:

John Move to inbox   aus\.comms[|,|\n]  Location Recipient  Presence Yes
John Options continue processing with other filters; Regular expressions

John Filter for aus.comms.mobile is similar except for
aus\.comms\.mobile[|,|\n] as Recipient.

John Filters set up basically as advised in this list by Michael from
John Spain.

John Can anyone see problems with above?  How do I stop the dupes?


You could add the other line in your first filter with presence no.
That will di i think.
Are you sure it is not crossposted?


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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread Andrew Perevodchik
Hello!

JP Move to inbox   aus\.comms[|,|\n]  Location Recipient  Presence Yes
JP Options continue processing with other filters; Regular expressions

Filter on X-MyGate-MID. It has colon (:) after group name.

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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread MAU
Hello John,

 Using MyGate to download  upload from /to news groups, just a filter
 question.

If you are using the latest version 2.5, then do as Andrew Perevodchik
tells you and filter on X-MyGate-MID header. That is exactly what he
included it for in 2.5.

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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread John Phillips
Hi MAU,
On Sun, 05 Oct 2003, at 10:14:19 [GMT+0200] (which was 18:14:19
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:



 If you are using the latest version 2.5, then do as Andrew Perevodchik
 tells you and filter on X-MyGate-MID header. That is exactly what he
 included it for in 2.5.


Now doing that.  Filtering on the  MID header in Kludges.

Problem still exists, but now different g

Cross posted to aus.comms  aus.comms.mobile now all land in
aus.comms.

Something I am missing here?

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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread Michal Kosinski
B-stok/PL, Sunday, October 5, 2003

Hello John,

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, at 19:50:40 (which was 11:50 where I live)
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:

JP Cross posted to aus.comms  aus.comms.mobile now all land in
JP aus.comms.  Something I am missing here?

You're missing a colon.
Filter by aus.comms:  aus.comms.mobile: not aus.comms 
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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread John Phillips
Hi Michal,
On Sun, 05 Oct 2003, at 12:22:24 [GMT+0200] (which was 20:22:24
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:



 You're missing a colon.
 Filter by aus.comms:  aus.comms.mobile: not aus.comms 
 aus.comms.mobile



Thanjs.  Will try.

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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread John Phillips
Hi Michal,
On Sun, 05 Oct 2003, at 12:22:24 [GMT+0200] (which was 20:22:24
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:

 You're missing a colon.
 Filter by aus.comms:  aus.comms.mobile: not aus.comms 
 aus.comms.mobile

Works a treat.  Thanks!

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Re: Filter Question, this word and this word ?

2003-02-03 Thread Carsten Thönges
* ~John [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How do I create a filter that searches for the words
 Size, Penis, Enlargement, Enhancer in the body of the message and if
 all the words are detected, deletes the email ?
 Would I put each word in a new string with Location Anywhere and
 presence yes ?

The easiest way is to add filtering strings via the add button
in the filter rules dialog. One for Size, one for P*nis, one for
Enl*rgement... you don't need any regular expressions here.

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Re: Filter question. Delete after reading?

2002-12-28 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Richard,

@29-Dec-2002, 02:18 Richard Lane [RL] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

RL Maybe I'm missing something but I can't find anyway to
RL automatically delete a message once it's been read.

Just create a Read message filter that has Delete message as an
action. In the sorting office, there are four major filter groups.
The second group is the Read Message filter group. That's the one
you want.

RL If that's not possible how about moving it to another folder
RL which I can set to automatically delete everything in it asap.

That's pretty simple to do too, but you won't need it if you can get
the above to work for you.

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Re: Filter question. Delete after reading?

2002-12-28 Thread Richard Lane
Hello Marck,

Sunday, December 29, 2002, 2:43:56 AM, you wrote:

RL Maybe I'm missing something but I can't find anyway to
RL automatically delete a message once it's been read.

 Just create a Read message filter that has Delete message as an
 action. In the sorting office, there are four major filter groups.
 The second group is the Read Message filter group. That's the one
 you want.

I was missing something after all. I was looking in the wrong place for it.
Thanks, made a filter and it works fine now.

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-14 Thread Thomas F

Hello Jonathan,

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 00:40:28 -0500 GMT (14/07/02, 12:40 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:

JA It is more likely to be the one in the account folder as each
JA account has its own set of filters, so would probably store it in
JA its [account] own folder.

This is absolutely correct. Sorry, I didn't point it out. You need to
copy the file account.srx from the account with the filters to the
account where you want the filters to be copied to. It is a good idea
to back up (rename) the file account.srx in the destination directory
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Re: Filter question

2002-07-14 Thread Allie C Martin

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Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote:

JA Just out of curiousity, does anybody know if you can reference a
JA file on a webserver to use instead of a local file in the
JA selective downloads thing? Like for example:
JA http://www.mydomain.com/spammers.txt? Would be good... could then
JA start working on a central type of system to block more spammers,
JA and pool everybody's knowledge, and experiences ;)

From another machine on an LAN, yes, but not from off the internet.

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-14 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Allie,
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 07:23:39 -0500, you wrote:

 From another machine on an LAN, yes, but not from off the internet.

That's a shame... wonder if it'd be possible in the future.  I'd guessed it'd be
possible on a lan, because you can map drives, or use the \\machine
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Re: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Thomas F

Hello Jonathan,

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:06:00 -0500 GMT (14/07/02, 00:06 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:

JA Just out of curiousity, does anybody know if you can reference a file on a
JA webserver to use instead of a local file in the selective downloads thing?  Like
JA for example: http://www.mydomain.com/spammers.txt?  Would be good... could then
JA start working on a central type of system to block more spammers, and pool
JA everybody's knowledge, and experiences ;)

Isn't this what SpamPal does?

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Thomas F

Hello Jonathan,

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:00:03 -0500 GMT (14/07/02, 11:00 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 I should ask this in a separate mail, I suppose, but is
 there any way I can copy a set of filters from this
 machine over to another, or do I have to rebuild the whole
 set? It's kind of time consuming ...

JA Open notepad, select filter you want to copy, press CTRL C, go back to notepad,
JA press CTRL V... save into a location you can get to on the other machine (like
JA floppy disk), open on other machine, copy (CTRL C), open filter dialog, CTRL
JA V... tada... filter appears.  Of course, there may be a quicker way,

..for example copying the account.srx file over. ;-)

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Thomas,
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:38:56 +0700, you wrote:

 ..for example copying the account.srx file over. ;-)

Wouldn't know what the file was... but I'm sure you're probably right... I would
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Re: Filter question

2002-07-12 Thread Gerard


ON Thursday, July 11, 2002, 10:06:40 PM, you wrote:

TF Sorry, I thought I was referring to a message from Lynn. My apologies.


Thomas,
Don't worry about it, these things happen in these text environments.
I am not offended, I thought it was funny :-)

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-11 Thread Gerard


ON Thursday, July 11, 2002, 3:52:49 PM, you wrote:


LT Hi guys ..

LT In my quest for spam reduction options, I've decided to
LT filter on the ip's of spam mails which apparently have
LT forged 'from' addresses. If I make a list of these and use
LT the 'add' button to add a rule, will these rules be
LT applied as 'or', or as 'and' .. ?

LT If the latter, can I make a list on the 'alternative' tab,
LT and if I do that, how do I separate them? Or do I need to
LT do it a completely different way?

LT Wish I could just paste a text file someplace ...

LT tia,

LT Lynn


LT 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2


Hi Lynn,

Copy everything between beginfilter  endfilter
Go to sorting office incoming mail filter and press Ctr-V
You have now copied a filter.

String1astring2a are AND functions
String2bstring2b are AND functions

String1(ab) and String2(ab) or OR functions to each other.

Hope this helps.


BeginFilter
Name: SPam filter
Active: 0
Source: \\Demon\Inbox
Target: \\Demon\Trash
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 00string1a
MainSet: 00string2a
AltSet:1: 00String1b
AltSet:1: 00string2b
Actions: 
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: 
DelAddrItems: 
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
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Re: Filter question

2002-07-11 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Lynn,

@11 July 2002, 06:52 -0700 (14:52 UK time)  Lynn Turriff [LT] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

LT If I make a list of these and use the 'add' button to add a rule,
LT will these rules be applied as 'or', or as 'and' .. ?

These are 'AND' filters.

LT If the latter, can I make a list on the 'alternative' tab,

These are 'OR' filters.

LT and if I do that, how do I separate them?

Add Set for each alternative ad-infinitum.

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-11 Thread Robert D.

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Recently, Gerard squawked:

 Copy everything between beginfilter  endfilter
 Go to sorting office incoming mail filter and press Ctr-V
I like this idea ---so I tried it and, obviously, nothing happens on what
I am running. Shouldn't I have seen a new filter called *Spam Filter* ???

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-11 Thread Thomas F

Hello Robert,

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:25:02 -0400 GMT (12/07/02, 01:25 +0700 GMT),
Robert  D. wrote:

 Copy everything between beginfilter  endfilter
 Go to sorting office incoming mail filter and press Ctr-V

RD I like this idea ---so I tried it and, obviously, nothing happens on what
RD I am running. Shouldn't I have seen a new filter called *Spam Filter* ???

She should have said including BeginFilter and Endfilter.

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-11 Thread Robert D.

Recently, Thomas F squawked:

 She should have said including BeginFilter and Endfilter.

ah, so cool --well, I certainly learn things here every day.

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-11 Thread Gerard


ON Thursday, July 11, 2002, 9:18:00 PM, you wrote:

TF Hello Robert,

TF On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:25:02 -0400 GMT (12/07/02, 01:25 +0700 GMT),
TF Robert  D. wrote:

 Copy everything between beginfilter  endfilter
 Go to sorting office incoming mail filter and press Ctr-V

RD I like this idea ---so I tried it and, obviously, nothing happens on what
RD I am running. Shouldn't I have seen a new filter called *Spam Filter* ???

TF She should have said including BeginFilter and Endfilter.


Hi Thomas,

Thanks your right about including the BeginFilter and Endfilter words.
Your wrong were it concerns my gender :-(
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Re: Filter question

2002-07-11 Thread Thomas F

Hello Gerard,

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:58:27 +0200 GMT (12/07/02, 02:58 +0700 GMT),
Gerard wrote:

G Thanks your right about including the BeginFilter and Endfilter words.
G Your wrong were it concerns my gender :-(

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-11 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Lynn,
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:52:49 -0700, you wrote:

 In my quest for spam reduction options, I've decided to
 filter on the ip's of spam mails which apparently have
 forged 'from' addresses. If I make a list of these and use
 the 'add' button to add a rule, will these rules be
 applied as 'or', or as 'and' .. ?

I'd have thought trying to filter on IP addresses is a little difficult to do
when it comes to spam, seeing as the large number of sources.  You'll be forever
updating your filters, and then eventually get lost in the massive list.  You
may even end up filtering mail you probably shouldn't.  Just a thought ;)

 If the latter, can I make a list on the 'alternative' tab,
 and if I do that, how do I separate them? Or do I need to
 do it a completely different way?
 
 Wish I could just paste a text file someplace ...

Selective Downloads filter allows you to read a text file if I remember
correctly.  I've seen some people utilising this to block known spammers
locations.

I think one of the better methods would be to speak to your mail provider, and
see if they can implement real time black lists, and use services such as
http://mail-abuse.org or even http://www.ordb.org.  Again, just a thought.

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Re: Filter question

2002-06-21 Thread Lynn Turriff



Thursday, June 20, 2002, 8:19:11 AM, you wrote:

JEB Right now I have a Selective Download filter set up, where any
JEB messages containing particular header strings are deleted before
JEB downloading. The header strings are in a text file; I have put a
JEB shortcut on my desktop to this text file for easy addition. The
JEB problem is, since it's a Selective Download filter, The Bat! first
JEB has to run through all of my email headers on the POP3 server, and
JEB second has to download the messages it has chosen: almost twice as
JEB long, on my cable modem. Is there a way to do this kind of simple
JEB text-file search filtering without using a Selective Download
JEB filter? In short: I want to filter using a text file, but I want to do
JEB the filtering after the messages have been retrieved. Is there a way?

Hi Jonathan -

I can't find anything to say how to separate the strings -
can they just be put on separate lines, or should they be
separated by commas ..?

I've wanted to do this for a while .. thanks!

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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Daniel Grunberg

Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:31:57 GMT -0700 (3:31 PM EDST) Brien King wrote:

 Ok,

 Is there a way to tell if the message body is empty?  I have been getting SPAM
 that just has a subject and nothing else in the body.  The Email has an HTML
 attachment (Picture and Link).

You can use TheBat! = Account = SortingOffice/Filters to set up a
Empty rule to sort out to Trash any message that does't contain at
least one character that you'd expect to see in the Text of a
non-empty message.

The pipe (i.e. [Shift]+\ (located on the key below [Backspace]) acts
as an inclusive-OR in the filter strings.  For example, you could set
up an inclusive-OR string containing all of the alpha-numeric
characters on the keyboard as:

a|A|b|B|c|C| etc. |z|Z|1|2|3| etc. |9|0

and specify in your Empty rule that the string is Not Present in the
Text. Or, as a first cut, you might try a simplified (and less tedious
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RE: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Brien King

Actually, it turned out to be even easier than that.  I used the Regular
Expression \S which is for a Non-White Space character (not to be confused
with \s which is White Space Character).  So I check for the presence of a
Non-White Space Character, if its not found, it gets trashed.

Brien

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 To: Brien King
 Subject: Re: Filter Question


 Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:31:57 GMT -0700 (3:31 PM EDST) Brien King wrote:

  Ok,

  Is there a way to tell if the message body is empty?  I have
 been getting SPAM
  that just has a subject and nothing else in the body.  The
 Email has an HTML
  attachment (Picture and Link).

 You can use TheBat! = Account = SortingOffice/Filters to set up a
 Empty rule to sort out to Trash any message that does't contain at
 least one character that you'd expect to see in the Text of a
 non-empty message.

 The pipe (i.e. [Shift]+\ (located on the key below [Backspace]) acts
 as an inclusive-OR in the filter strings.  For example, you could set
 up an inclusive-OR string containing all of the alpha-numeric
 characters on the keyboard as:

 a|A|b|B|c|C| etc. |z|Z|1|2|3| etc. |9|0

 and specify in your Empty rule that the string is Not Present in the
 Text. Or, as a first cut, you might try a simplified (and less tedious
 to type) rule that looks for any of the numerals or any of the vowels:

 a|A|e|E|i|I|o|O|u|U|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|0


 
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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Luc

 Good evening Brien,
  
It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 08:29:40 GMT-0700 (which was
17:29:40 where I live) Brien King wrote and spread these wise comments
on Filter Question:
  
snipped a bit
BK I used the Regular
BK Expression \S which is for a Non-White Space character (not to be confused
BK with \s which is White Space Character).

 Could you post the filter?
 
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RE: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Brien King

Well, that was the filter :-)  Use \S as the string, and have it required in
the Text area.  I have HTML off so attachments don't play a part.  I also
have Regular Expression turned on.


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  Could you post the filter?

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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Luc

 Good evening Brien,
  
It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 08:42:56 GMT-0700 (which was
17:42:56 where I live) Brien King wrote and spread these wise comments
on Filter Question:
  
BK Well, that was the filter :-)  Use \S as the string, and have it required in
BK the Text area.  I have HTML off so attachments don't play a part.  I also
BK have Regular Expression turned on.

 Tnx
 
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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Luc,

  Tnx

You've beaten your own record. ;-)

A 1180 bytes long message (3361 counting RFC-822 headers) for a 3
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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Luc

 Good evening Miguel,
  
It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 21:52:50 GMT+0200 (which was
21:52:50 where I live) Miguel A. Urech wrote and spread these wise
comments on Filter Question:
  
snipped a bit
MAU You've beaten your own record. ;-)

 Trying to get into the Guinness Book  ;-)
 
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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Luc,

  Trying to get into the Guinness Book  ;-)

I prefer Guinness beer ;-)

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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Luc

 Good evening Miguel,
  
It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 22:12:56 GMT+0200 (which was
22:12:56 where I live) Miguel A. Urech wrote and spread these wise
comments on Filter Question:
  
snipped a bit
MAU I prefer Guinness beer ;-)

 Next time when i'm in your neck of the woods ;-)
 
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Re: Filter question

2002-02-25 Thread Shahar

Hello Raj

On Monday, February 25, 2002, at 16:09:20, Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to 
Shahar about:
Filter question


S I found a working solution, all in one filter and I tested it with
S about 200 messages from 10 different email addresses and it's smooth.

 Can you enlighten us on the logic ???


Well, I had to change the filter and I used your help.
You're right about the two step filter.

Thank you again for your help. I'm still fresh meat here :-)


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Re: Filter question

2002-02-23 Thread Raj

Shahar,

On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, at 20:02:20 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:32 PM where I live) you
wrote:

S My need is to send a person a file just once even if he send me the
S request message several times.

I too have a similar need and solved this as follows.

Filter  1  :  Checks  if the person who sends the message is in an AB group (say
Mail).  If  yes  then  it moves the message to Duplicate Folder. This filter has
continue processing in options checked.

Filter 2 : Adds the person id to the AB group - Mail and also sends out the mail
using the advanced options.

Needless to say Filter 1 is before Filter 2. This has been working very well for
me.

However   in   the  beta I am having a peculiar problem. The filters before this
filters   some  time  does not work to complete satisfaction.. Before I post the
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Re: Filter question

2002-02-23 Thread Shahar

Hello Raj

On Sunday, February 24, 2002, at 06:34:27, Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to 
Shahar about:
Filter question


S My need is to send a person a file just once even if he send me the
S request message several times.

 I too have a similar need and solved this as follows.

 Filter  1  :  Checks  if the person who sends the message is in an AB group (say
 Mail).  If  yes  then  it moves the message to Duplicate Folder. This filter has
 continue processing in options checked.

 Filter 2 : Adds the person id to the AB group - Mail and also sends out the mail
 using the advanced options.


Thank you very much for your help.
I found a working solution, all in one filter and I tested it with
about 200 messages from 10 different email addresses and it's smooth.

I'll keep your mail for bad days when something will go wrong :-))


Thank you for writing.

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Re: Filter question

2002-02-22 Thread Luís Avelino Relógio

Hi,

 When filtering using Kludges, I'm kind of puzzled ...

 For example, I get mail from a mailing list where the sender may be
 one of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 etc
 There is no guarantee as to what node it will come from or whether
 they'll introduce a new node.  So, I'd rather not introduce a lot of
 alternative filters.

 As if that's not enough I get another list from the same hosts ...
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

With   that   data   you  may  try  to  'accept  @a.xyz.com  and  not
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.  Or  'accept  listb@?.xyz.com' where ? should be any
character.  For  the  last one a regexp like 'list\@.\.xyz\.com' would
solve the problem.


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Re: Filter question

2002-02-22 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Stuart,

On Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 1:52:14 AM you wrote (at least in
part):

SB What I really would like to be able to do is say

SB sender: list and xyz.com

SB Is there any way to do that ?

What about filtering for:

^Sender: list@.+\.xyz\.com$

and for the other list:

^Sender: listb@.+\.xyz\.com$

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Re: Filter question

2002-02-21 Thread Luís Avelino Relógio

Hi,


 For example, I get mail from a mailing list where the sender may be
 one of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 etc
 There is no guarantee as to what node it will come from or whether
 they'll introduce a new node.  So, I'd rather not introduce a lot of
 alternative filters.

Can't you just use To: listaddress? Looks easier.



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Fwd: Re: Filter question

2002-02-21 Thread Miguel A. Urech

I apologize if you receive this twice but, for some reason, I haven't
seen my own posting yesterday nor the first time I re-sent it

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To: Stuart Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, February 21, 2002, 2:04:55 AM
Subject: Filter question

Hello Stuart,

 What I really would like to be able to do is say

 sender: list and xyz.com

 Is there any way to do that ?

Yes, use Regular Expressions (see Regular expression and programming
macros in HELP)

You have to select Regular Expression in the Options tab of the
filter, and then, for example:

Sender: list.*xyz.com

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Re: Filter question

2002-02-20 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Stuart.

At 7:52 PM on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 you wrote
the following about Filter question:

Stuart What I really would like to be able to do is say
Stuart sender: list and xyz.com
Stuart Is there any way to do that ?

  Sure. If I understood you correctlyh, just create
  rule 1, then add a rule 2 (don't use the alternative
  option).

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Re: Filter question

2002-02-20 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Stuart,

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:21:26 -0500GMT (21-2-2002, 2:21 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

SB So, I can look for sender: list
SB but how can I look for sender: xyz.com - this will surely fail

No, you're only testing for a substring in the name/address of the
sender. So you can define two rules.

When checking the headers (all headers) don't they have anything in
common? Like a reply-to header or a list-id header. You can check for
any header in the kludges.

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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Thomas F

Hello Miles,

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 06:24:01 -0400 GMT (23/09/2001, 18:24 +0800 GMT),
Miles Alexander wrote:

MA I  guess  to  sum it up, what I am looking for (when all other filters
MA are implemented) is an ELSE filter that DOES NOT DOWNLOAD.

Try to delete in your replies what you is unnecessary. Read the
welcoming mesages regarding quotes. Fullquotes cause most people to
not read a posting. I read yours only because I caught my name with
one blinking eye. Thanks.

To your questions:

1.) An *else* filter is a filter that catches every message that has
not been caught by another filter, right? So, make it the last one in
the filter list, as the filters are being processed sequentially.

2.) Incoming filters work after download. Therefore, it is not
possible to un-download a message by an incoming filter.

3.) Selective download filters download selectively. Maybe you want to
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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Thomas F

Hello Miles,

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 11:07:39 -0400 GMT (23/09/2001, 23:07 +0800 GMT),
Miles Alexander wrote:

MA So, what you are telling me is that the Incoming filters are processed
MA in a hierarchy and putting my *else* filter at the bottom of that list
MA (thus the Move Up and Move Down feature) will get me what I want?

It will ensure that it is processed last, yes. :-) However, you also
wanted the message to be kept on the server - this is only possible to
seet your account settings.

MA The I will name this filter -- appropriately -- my Else filter.

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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Thomas F

Hello Miles,

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 11:18:28 -0400 GMT (23/09/2001, 23:18 +0800 GMT),
Miles Alexander wrote:

MA Selective downloads:

MA Yes:  this seems to be a very good way to resolve the situation but do
MA I need to imply (within the window) the following format?:

MA String: [Person One], Location: [Sender],   Presence: [No]

No, this won't work. The Selective Download Filter downloads all
message headers and then processes only these. The signal string must
be matched exactly *in the headers* (so Text and Anywhere won't
apply), and then you can use the options under the Advanced tab.

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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Allie C Martin

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MA So, what you are telling me is that the Incoming filters are
MA processed in a hierarchy and putting my *else* filter at the
MA bottom of that list (thus the Move Up and Move Down feature) will
MA get me what I want?

Look at it this way. For each message, starting from the first filter
at the top and working downwards, a matching filter is sought. As soon
as a matching filter rule is found, the filter actions are applied.
Matching filter rules for that particular message are no longer sought
further down the filter rules list unless:

a) the option, 'continue processing with other filters' is enabled in
the matching filter rule's options

*and*

b) the matching filter rule doesn't move the message from the Inbox to
another folder.

MA The I will name this filter -- appropriately -- my Else filter.

If you wish a filter to be applied by default to messages which aren't
filtered by other filter rules, then create the filter and place it at
the bottom of the filter rules list and make it applicable to all
possible messages (string 'e' in Kludges for example).

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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-23 Thread Thomas F

Hello Miles,

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:21:13 -0400 GMT (24/09/2001, 02:21 +0800 GMT),
Miles Alexander wrote:

MA I will add this to my collection of quotes!

Cool. (I stole it somewhere. g)

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Re: Filter question from the Ignorant

2001-09-22 Thread Thomas F

Hello Miles,

On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:27:27 -0400 GMT (23/09/2001, 10:27 +0800 GMT),
Miles Alexander wrote:

MA   If   an   incoming  transaction does not match *any* filters, I want
MA   to:

MA   * Flag it as found (possibly)

Make one one filter at the end, which does ntohing else but flag the
message.

MA   * Leave it on the server
MA   * If there are unknown transactions identified (read: spam and such)
MA   then  I want to automatically bring up the Dispatch to Server option
MA   so that I can ascertain what to do with the new email.

These feature can only be set per-account, not per-message. And also
not by filters.

MA   I  have  breezed through the manual (designed for experienced users)

Please advise where you got it, as I am interested in a copy.

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Re: Filter question

2001-05-25 Thread Thomas

Hello Brandt,

On Fri, 25 May 2001 22:17:27 -0700 GMT (26/05/2001, 13:17 +0800 GMT),
Brandt wrote:

B 3rd has a blank rule set, and the colour group of choice selected
B under the advanced tab

[...]
B I have a suspicion that I need SOMETHING in the rule set otherwise
B I don't know.

Try the following:

String:   @
Location: Kludges
Presence: Yes

This is a catch-all, as I still have to the the email without the @
character somehweere in the header.

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Re: Filter question (was: Regex question)

2001-03-20 Thread ztrader

On Monday, March 19, 2001, 11:09:31 PM, Thomas wrote:

z This structure is sometimes prefixed with another word or two as:

z [pre1.. pren] Startword stuff in the middle Endword

T No prob, as long as both keywords are in the subject somewhere, it'll
T work.

Thanks for the suggestion. Actually, the reason for the regex is that
I want to filter ONLY if Startword is the FIRST word and Endword is
the LAST word. If they are in any other positions, or if one is
missing, the message is not filtered. The positions are important.

It is actually a bit more complex - Startword and Endword can be one
of about 3 words each. I first wanted to see if the pre part could be
eliminated, and Startword recognized as the "start".

Thanks,

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Re: Filter question

2001-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Emmanuele,

On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:03:41 +0100GMT (11/01/2001, 16:03 +0800GMT),
Emmanuele Vigni wrote:

EV There is also unwanted text in them, but only one email to capture..

Let me play a bit here. I'm really not good at RegEx, but I'll give it
a shot:

%RegExpMatch="%Text" // The body of the message is our source

Match algorithm:
1.) Find "@" character
2.) Return the string consisting of all characters between the space
preceding this character and the space or cr following this character.

Give me a little time (couple of days should do) to put this into a
RegEx script. ;-)

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Re: Filter question

2001-01-11 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Thomas,

TF = Thomas Fernandez 

On  Thu, 11 Jan 2001  at  16:15:24 GMT +0800 (which was 12:15 AM where
I live) witnesses say Thomas Fernandez typed:

TF Hi Emmanuele,

TF On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:03:41 +0100GMT (11/01/2001, 16:03 +0800GMT),
TF Emmanuele Vigni wrote:

EV There is also unwanted text in them, but only one email to capture..

TF Let me play a bit here. I'm really not good at RegEx, but I'll give it
TF a shot:

TF %RegExpMatch="%Text" // The body of the message is our source

TF Match algorithm:
TF 1.) Find "@" character
TF 2.) Return the string consisting of all characters between the space
TF preceding this character and the space or cr following this character.

TF Give me a little time (couple of days should do) to put this into a
TF RegEx script. ;-)


 I already did this one some time ago.  If I remember correctly, the
 best one was:

%TO=''%TO='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is).*?[^-_.\w]*?([-_.\w]{2,}?@[-_.\w]{3,}?)[^-_.\w]"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%TEXT"%SUBPATT="1"'

It finds the first e-mail address in any message.

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Re: Filter question

2001-01-10 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)

Hello!


Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 10:58:55 PM, Emmanuele Vigni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

EV I am new. I'd like to know if is it possible, and if yes how, to
EV configure The Bat! in order to make a canned reply that captures
EV from the body of a received message ONLY the e-mail inserted in it
EV and send it as a new message to another address that I specifie.

So does the messages to be processed by that filter contains *only* the
e-mail addresses you want to extract or there are some additional (and
unwanted) text in them?


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Re: Filter question: can we filter out attachments by name

2000-10-28 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Abigail,

Saturday, October 28, 2000, 9:32:34 AM, you wrote:

AM No real harm, since TB doesn't go around opening attached files.
AM But, I certainly would save myself some time if I could simply delete
AM these known worms -
AM So basically I want to have TB automatically delete any attachment
AM with specific names or extensions.

It is not the job of TB! to automatically delete *any* attachments, if
you have a good virus checker it will find such  worms etc. when it
scans the Attach directory.

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Re: filter question

1999-12-17 Thread Travisimo!

Friday, December 17, 1999, 9:06:52 AM, you wrote:

MZ Hello ,
MZ Is  there  a  way to set the filters so that if I respond to an e-mail
MZ both  the  original  e-mail and my response would be moved to a folder
MZ called Responded Mail (to which I will set view by threads on).
MZ Thanks

I'm a relative newbie to The Bat, but I believe all you would have to
do is set one incoming and one outgoing filter to move the messages to
your folder.  This would be extremely easy if these messages are from
the same correspondent because you could simply use their name/email
as the search string (one sender, one recipient).  At least, that's
how I understand it, unless I misunderstood your question (which is
entirely possible). G

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Re: filter question

1999-12-17 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello ,

Is  there  a  way to set the filters so that if I respond to an e-mail
both  the  original  e-mail and my response would be moved to a folder
called Responded Mail (to which I will set view by threads on).

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Hello Michael,
 
Friday, December 17, 1999, 7:06:52 AM, you wrote:

 Hello ,

 Is  there  a  way to set the filters so that if I respond to an e-mail
 both  the  original  e-mail and my response would be moved to a folder
 called Responded Mail (to which I will set view by threads on).

Create an outgoing filter and a replied messages filter with the
appropriate strings.  That should do the trick.  That way the new
messages will stay in your inbox until you manually move them or you
respond to them.

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