Re: IMAP - No message loaded error - next installment

2010-10-31 Thread TheLimit

On 10/26/2010 you wrote:

 I have Thunderbird installed for just such occasions. My preferred
 client is The Bat, but since it is IMAP, I can use any client to get the
 messages and Thunderbird is a good way of testing whether the problem
 is server or client related.

I couldn't get Thunderbird to talk at all. It won't accept
the pw for some reason, and I've kind of given up on it.
Not only do I not like it, but I don't understand it and I
don't have the time to mess with it :-/

 The things that cause problems for me are accounts with lots of
 folders or lots of accounts to check at the same time, particularly
 when there are messages waiting in several of them. One large email
 can hold up everything else and I wonder whether the connections
 timeout and hang.

Yes, this could be. There are several accounts - but all
but the one with the problem are POP accounts, and all are
working fine as of this writing. Most have lots of
folders, including this IMAP account. But .. the only one with
problems is the IMAP account :-/

 You could play around with some of the settings in
 Properties|Mail Management|IMAP Fine Tune at account level and see
 whether that makes a difference.

Well, so far that hasn't accomplished anything.

I have managed to move all the messages to the trash
folder, (the delete key worked where the delete button on
the interface did not) where for some reason I can read
them.  I can't move any to any other folder, however, and
none of the filters work on that account.

 There is a new version of IMAP for The Bat in the works, and hopefully
 this will address some of the current issues.

I hope so.

In the meantime, has anyone ever managed to fix a filter
problem like this one? There are filters specific to this
account, as well as a common filter which combs about 3 of
them, the other accounts being POP accounts.

Will be glad to provide any other info you like, if you
think it will help.

tia -

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Re: IMAP - No message loaded error

2010-10-26 Thread jb_lists_tb
Hello TheLimit,

On Monday, October 25, 2010, 9:57:08 PM, TheLimit wrote:

 Thanks for your reply. If any of my answers give you
 reason to think I can give the thing a swift kick, I'd
 appreciate knowing what boots to wear :-)

 I'm beginning to think that not many Batters are using
 IMAP, and maybe more to the point, the reason for it :-/

I have Thunderbird installed for just such occasions. My preferred
client is The Bat, but since it is IMAP, I can use any client to get the
messages and Thunderbird is a good way of testing whether the problem
is server or client related.

The things that cause problems for me are accounts with lots of
folders or lots of accounts to check at the same time, particularly
when there are messages waiting in several of them. One large email
can hold up everything else and I wonder whether the connections
timeout and hang. You could play around with some of the settings in
Properties|Mail Management|IMAP Fine Tune at account level and see
whether that makes a difference.

There is a new version of IMAP for The Bat in the works, and hopefully
this will address some of the current issues.

-- 
   Julian  

   Using The Bat! v4.2.23 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 



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Re: IMAP - No message loaded error

2010-10-26 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 5:03:47 AM, jb_lists...@trink.co.uk wrote:
 
 I'm beginning to think that not many Batters are using
 IMAP, and maybe more to the point, the reason for it :-/

 I have Thunderbird installed for just such occasions. My preferred
 client is The Bat, but since it is IMAP, I can use any client to get the
 messages and Thunderbird is a good way of testing whether the problem
 is server or client related.
 
There  have been lots who complain that Bat IMAP is unworkable, but I 
continue  to  find it superior over all to anything else. I only have 
one  account,  which  has  62 folders, and nearly 54,000 messages. It 
collects all my POP accounts, and all my gmail gets forwarded there. I 
haven't  looked  directly  at  gmail  for  months,  nor any of my POP 
accounts  unless  there is some reason to send a message using one of 
those addresses. 

I  also  use  thunderbird  occasionally for testing, and on a regular 
basis  to  compact  all  my folders, since theBat doesn't manage that 
well. 

Looking  forward  to  beta  testing the new IMAP, expecting to set up 
additional  IMAP  accounts  for  that,  and changing habits on my POP 
accounts.   
  
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Re: IMAP - No message loaded error

2010-10-25 Thread jb_lists_tb
Hello TheLimit,

On Sunday, October 24, 2010, 7:12:04 PM, TheLimit wrote:

 Nothing has changed in the account settings. I'm stumped.
 If anyone can tell me how to get it to load these messages
 so I can read them, I'm all ears. A few of them at least are
 important; those which are obviously spam can't be
 deleted.

Does the Connection Centre show any activity when you select one of
the messages or select [F2] to download? What are the folder
synchronisation settings? (Right click on the folder and select the
top item in the menu).

I sometimes get this problem on my laptop, usually on a slow
connection, when it takes a very long time for message bodies to
appear. Sometimes restarting TB works, but at other times I just have
to wait - the connection centre shows the downloads in the queue but
nothing happens. In some cases I end up using webmail. Eventually the
messages appear in TB.

-- 
   Julian  

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Re: IMAP - No message loaded error

2010-10-25 Thread TheLimit


 Hello TheLimit,

 On Sunday, October 24, 2010, 7:12:04 PM, TheLimit wrote:

 Nothing has changed in the account settings. I'm stumped.
 If anyone can tell me how to get it to load these messages
 so I can read them, I'm all ears. A few of them at least are
 important; those which are obviously spam can't be
 deleted.

 Does the Connection Centre show any activity when you select one of
 the messages or select [F2] to download?

It appears to do nothing, but the CC does show a list of
messages it is pretending to load and to filter - the
filters aren't working either :-/

 What are the folder
 synchronisation settings?

Set for full synchronization. Have been from when I set it
up.

[little snip]

 I sometimes get this problem on my laptop, usually on a slow
 connection, when it takes a very long time for message bodies to
 appear. Sometimes restarting TB works, but at other times I just have
 to wait - the connection centre shows the downloads in the queue but
 nothing happens. In some cases I end up using webmail. Eventually the
 messages appear in TB.

I've been waiting for three days.  And the mail server is
in the basement; speed shouldn't be an issue :-/ I'm going
to have to go and see if I can read at least some of these
message straight off the server, because they really won't
wait :-/

Maybe I should just go to POP on this account too; I hate
IMAP, but really resented losing my 15 year old db, and
thought maybe I'd better try to get along with it.

Thanks for your reply. If any of my answers give you
reason to think I can give the thing a swift kick, I'd
appreciate knowing what boots to wear :-)

I'm beginning to think that not many Batters are using
IMAP, and maybe more to the point, the reason for it :-/

Again, many thanks!

-- 
Lynn
:Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag:

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