Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Peter,

@05 April 2002, 10:15:34 +0200 (09:15 UK time) Peter Palmreuther wrote
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MDP Turn on Regular expressions and use /s/s/s/s/s (five
MDP contiguous spaces).

 Or use it's shorter and more readable format:

 \s{5}

Yes.

 with the additional correction of using '\' instead of '/' :-)))

D'oh! Too early for me!

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Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-05 Thread tracer

Hello Roman Katzer,
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 18:47:06 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, April 4, 2002, 11:47:06 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,




Roman Katzer wrote:


 On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 15:31:32, Jon Lawrance wrote:
 What about all the foreign character rubbish I get?
 Anyone else get this type of spam and what method do you use to get rid of it?

 I use the charset information to filter that stuff out. If there's something
 like charset=big5 or charset=ks_c_5601-1987 in the headers, it gets kicked.
 Use charset=.*ks_c_5601-1987 and check Regular expressions to also filter
 out mails that say charset=ks_c_5601-1987 or the like.

Ok, which expressions do you have which work...
Allas my days of active math are over, I can read the damned things
but producing them
To me its a bit like if I show some of the formala's I used in the
past, probably nobody here would even see what it was about
I would know but wouldnt be able to reproduce them anymore after all
these years...(g)

 Roman




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Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-05 Thread tracer

Hello Allie C Martin,
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:00:32 -0500 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, April 5, 2002, 4:00:32 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,




Allie C Martin wrote:


 Sure. I'm saying that it's more difficult to keep your Inbox free of
 spam by filtering the spam itself. I'm not saying that you cannot
 filter spam. You can. If you do, you'll spend too much time on it.

I agree, thats what I do but
1. grab the known mail
2. grab the known mail lists
and then send the rest to a spam folder for a few days or as I did
copy the spam to it and check whats common.
NOT subjects, it doesnt work.
Its to, from and other stuff you may never see in the headers.
I had a few mailing lists change their system as it looked like
spam...


 It was quite effective but was catching too much of my good mail

Because your good mail shouldnt be there to be grabbed...
if you first send anything you DO want to its folders there isnt that
much left and as far as I ca see my current filters still zap about
95% of all spam...

T First grab the ones you are sure are yours and then tackle the
T spam.

 You will not need to tackle the spam once you grab what's yours.
 If you effectively grab what's not yours, which you easily can, the
 rest is spam.

Nope, there are those sending an email a month, I donot give them a
folder.
Silly enquiries are in the same category, they send mail one time/ 2
times and when its finished I dump them.

T Not to you is one way but others are the undisclosed recipients and
T similar rubbish and anyway, you inspect by hand whats left, its
T really not that difficult with 500 emails coming in per day to have
T maybe one spamletter...

 Not at all.

?? you agree or disagree ??




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Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-05 Thread Roman Katzer

On Friday, April 5, 2002, 16:39:27, tracer wrote:
 Ok, which expressions do you have which work...

So far: (irrelevant lines deleted)

BeginFilter
Name: Spam
Active: 1
Source: \\RoKa\Inbox
Target: \\RoKa\spam
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 40charset=.*ks_c_5601-1987
AltSet:1: 40charset=.*euc-kr
AltSet:2: 40charset=.*big5
Actions: faMarkRead,faDelServer,faoRegExp,faSetColor
ColourGroup: mbspam
EndFilter

 Allas my days of active math are over, I can read the damned things
 but producing them

Just look into the headers. Mine will probably say us-ascii or iso-8859-1.
Some spam mail programs won't write a charset into the headers, though.

Roman


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Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Marcus Ohlström


On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 09:43, Jon Lawrance wrote:

 Does anyone have a ready made spam filter they could share? Are they
 importable?

All filter are easily importable and exportable through the sorting
office copy/paste capabilities. To export a filter, mark it and hit
ctrl-c then paste it in a text editor. To import another filter, for
example my spam filters submitted below, copy all text and paste them
into the sorting office.

 I have already set up an address book called Spam and then a filter
 to avoid those addresses in future. But I think I need another to
 get rid of the obvious junk.

I use three filters, one that filter on certain words like teen, porn
and so forth, another to filter on certain patterns (4 spaces in a row
in the subject line or 4 digits in a row in either the subject och the
senders address) and a third, placed above the two others, to stop TB
from filtering messages with certain words. The first two filters does
not filter messages from addresses in my address book.

I do not argue that these filters are perfect, but they does suite my
needs, they pick about 95% of all the spam I get. Unfortunately, they
do filter about one message a month which should not get filtered. I
suppose that's hard to avoid :-(

This filter will however not work if you keep your address book with
addresses to avoid, since they never take actions on mails from known
senders.

Before you copy/paste the filters below, make sure to edit the folders
to suite your setup. Place them in the same order that I have done in
this mail.


BeginFilter
Name: Spam stopper
Active: 1
Source: \\marcus\Inbox
Target: \\marcus\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 50bluewastebin|srn|technew|dell
Actions: 
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter


BeginFilter
Name: Spam
Active: 1
Source: \\marcus\Inbox
Target: \\marcus\Inbox\Spam
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 
50teen|girls|celebrity|nude|naked|adult|porn|xxx|gangbang|cum|hardcore|fuck|[over 
18]|[at least 
18]|horny|sluts|britney|spears|viagra|pharmac|medication|xenical|pills|prescription|snoring|money|$$|credit|mortage|mortgage|debt|investment|business|marketing|[special
 offer]|discount|insurance|lottery|[unsolicited 
email]|spam|congratulations|adventure|hollywood|cannes|[green card]
Actions: faMarkRead,faoAdvAddressOut
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter


BeginFilter
Name: Spam 2
Active: 1
Source: \\marcus\Inbox
Target: \\marcus\Inbox\Spam
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 20\s\s\s\s
AltSet:1: 20\d\d\d\d
AltSet:2: 00\d\d\d\d
Actions: faMarkRead,faoRegExp,faoAdvAddressOut
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter


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Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 10:53:14 +0200 [ Thu, 4 Apr 2002], Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote these
words of wisdom:
...
MO I use three filters, one that filter on certain words like teen,
MO porn and so forth, another to filter on certain patterns (4 spaces
MO in a row in the subject line or 4 digits in a row in either the
MO subject och the senders address) and a third, placed above the two
MO others, to stop TB from filtering messages with certain words. The
MO first two filters does not filter messages from addresses in my
MO address book.

It's *much* easier to filter mail that you expect, rather than to
filter mail that you don't expect. If you are going to do things your
way, then it's best to just purchase an application like Spamkiller
http://www.spamkiller.com/, where the developer makes a living
creating these sorts of filters to catch spam mail, and even then, it
tends to catch a lot of my good mail. I stopped using it, refined my
exclusion approach to spam filtering (if it's not a message directly
for me, then it's spam) and it now works better than 'spamkiller'.
Note that Spamkiller uses about 1500 filter rules and you have to
update it periodically.

Create filters for all mail that you expect, i.e., discussion list
mail, newsletter mails and announcements, mail from your friends and
family and finally mail from your address book addresses.

You can also create an address book group and a filter to place in
your address book, addresses for mail in your Inbox, that you replied
to.

The final filter in the list will be a filter that places all messages
not caught by the previous filter into your spam folder. With time,
the few messages from legitimate sources that reach your spam folder
will diminish as you create filters for them either directly, or when
you reply to them and their addresses are added to your special
address book group.

This is much easier than going through spam each day and trying to
figure out how to filter the new ones that found their way in your
Inbox. I haven't seen a spam in my Inbox for three weeks, since I
stopped using SpamKiller and refined my filtering.

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Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread tracer

Hello Allie C Martin,
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 06:40:11 -0500 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, April 4, 2002, 6:40:11 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,




Allie C Martin wrote:


 @ 10:53:14 +0200 [ Thu, 4 Apr 2002], Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote these
 words of wisdom:
 ...
MO I use three filters, one that filter on certain words like teen,
MO porn and so forth, another to filter on certain patterns (4 spaces
MO in a row in the subject line or 4 digits in a row in either the
MO subject och the senders address) and a third, placed above the two
MO others, to stop TB from filtering messages with certain words. The
MO first two filters does not filter messages from addresses in my
MO address book.

 It's *much* easier to filter mail that you expect, rather than to
 filter mail that you don't expect.

Not quite true as most spammers use certain things in their headers
which betray its spam.
Filtering on subject is useless, check 'send to', send from and
similar things and you will see lots of ways to get rid of 95% of all
spam.
Obviously one should first remove any mailing lists and other stuff
one knows but hitting spam is easy.

 If you are going to do things your
 way, then it's best to just purchase an application like Spamkiller
 http://www.spamkiller.com/, where the developer makes a living
 creating these sorts of filters to catch spam mail, and even then, it
 tends to catch a lot of my good mail. I stopped using it, refined my
 exclusion approach to spam filtering (if it's not a message directly
 for me, then it's spam) and it now works better than 'spamkiller'.
 Note that Spamkiller uses about 1500 filter rules and you have to
 update it periodically.

You donot need that many.
First grab the ones you are sure are yours and then tackle the spam.
Not to you is one way but others are the undisclosed recipients and
similar rubbish and anyway, you inspect by hand whats left, its really
not that difficult with 500 emails coming in per day to have maybe one
spamletter...



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Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Roman Katzer

On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 15:31:32, Jon Lawrance wrote:
 What about all the foreign character rubbish I get?
 Anyone else get this type of spam and what method do you use to get rid of it?

I use the charset information to filter that stuff out. If there's something
like charset=big5 or charset=ks_c_5601-1987 in the headers, it gets kicked.
Use charset=.*ks_c_5601-1987 and check Regular expressions to also filter
out mails that say charset=ks_c_5601-1987 or the like.

Roman


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Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 21:23:28 +0700 [ Thu, 4 Apr 2002], Tracer [T] thoughtfully wrote the
following:
...
T Not quite true as most spammers use certain things in their headers
T which betray its spam.

Sure. I'm saying that it's more difficult to keep your Inbox free of
spam by filtering the spam itself. I'm not saying that you cannot
filter spam. You can. If you do, you'll spend too much time on it.

 If you are going to do things your way, then it's best to just
 purchase an application like Spamkiller
 http://www.spamkiller.com/, where the developer makes a living
 creating these sorts of filters to catch spam mail, and even then,
 it tends to catch a lot of my good mail. I stopped using it,
 refined my exclusion approach to spam filtering (if it's not a
 message directly for me, then it's spam) and it now works better
 than 'spamkiller'. Note that Spamkiller uses about 1500 filter
 rules and you have to update it periodically.

T You donot need that many.

It was quite effective but was catching too much of my good mail

T First grab the ones you are sure are yours and then tackle the
T spam.

You will not need to tackle the spam once you grab what's yours.
If you effectively grab what's not yours, which you easily can, the
rest is spam.

T Not to you is one way but others are the undisclosed recipients and
T similar rubbish and anyway, you inspect by hand whats left, its
T really not that difficult with 500 emails coming in per day to have
T maybe one spamletter...

Not at all.

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Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jody,

@05 April 2002, 19:50:05 -0600 (02:50 UK time) Jody Watts wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MO Before you copy/paste the filters below, make sure to edit the
MO folders to suite your setup. Place them in the same order that I
MO have done in this mail.

 Where (what file) do I paste the attached filters into?

You don't. You paste them into the sorting office UI.

 Also ... how do you add spaces to the set in a filter list. If i use
 the space bar (or the ALT number), the filter won't save it. If I
 could filter say 5 contiguous spaces in the subject, I would get rif
 of 90% or more of the spam that DOES make it through.

Turn on Regular expressions and use /s/s/s/s/s (five contiguous
spaces).

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Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Marck,

On Friday, April 5, 2002 at 10:06:54 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

MDP Turn on Regular expressions and use /s/s/s/s/s (five contiguous
MDP spaces).

Or use it's shorter and more readable format:

\s{5}

with the additional correction of using '\' instead of '/' :-)))
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