John wrote:
Anyone is entitled to not renew. My issue is when you resign, you are
saying you want nothing to do with the association. To criticize but not be
a part of it working toward change leaves all the complaining (which is
disruptive) and no way to work toward fixing the problem.
And
] OT Vent re: STC
Sean,
You imply that the STC did something unethical.
Can you provide any details?
Holly Harkness
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sean
Sent: Tue 11/13/2007 7:00 PM
To: TCP List
Subject: Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC
I've been an STC member
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From: Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TCP List TCP@techcommpros.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC
Well, it's an oft-told tale, grey haired, and you've seen it before,
many of you. But, this has passed the 48-hour requirement, so this is
not written
, November 11, 2007 1:18:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC
Last I heard, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. And
until any
of us have walked in Paula's shoes, I think it's plenty disrespectful
to
discredit her opinion.
Well said.
I will say that there are folks in the STC
Sean,
You imply that the STC did something unethical.
Can you provide any details?
Holly Harkness
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sean
Sent: Tue 11/13/2007 7:00 PM
To: TCP List
Subject: Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC
I've been an STC member for a while. I've
Last I heard, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. And
until any of us have walked in Paula's shoes, I think it's plenty
disrespectful to discredit her opinion.
You know what they say about opinions.
Paula was very active in STC, and very vocal about her issues. But STC never
Last I heard, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. And
until any of us have walked in Paula's shoes, I think it's plenty
disrespectful to discredit her opinion.
You know what they say about opinions.
Paula was very active in STC, and very vocal about her issues. But STC never
that I
shouldn't share my experiences with other TWs?
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From: John Posada
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:29 AM
To: Sue Heim
Cc: TCP List
Subject: Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC
... Looks like they did heed her message about the
pricing structure. She's just upset
As far as *my* right to criticize STC, you baffle me. I was a member of
STC for several years; eventually, I quit. Are you saying that I
shouldn't share my experiences with other TWs?
There's a difference between being constructive and destructive when you do it.
John Posada
Senior Technical
At 07:35 AM 11/11/2007, Sue Heim wrote:
Last I heard, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. And until any
of us have walked in Paula's shoes, I think it's plenty disrespectful to
discredit her opinion.
Paula was very active in STC, and very vocal about her issues. But STC never
Ack! I misspoke... I meant to say many of the leaders within the
organization WERE more about furthering themselves than furthering technical
writing (rather than are). As I said, I think things are changing. Have
they changed enough? I dunno. Is there any benefit for me to belong to this
I was a member for more than 10 years - while I was a member, I
I'm aware
complained about the pricing structure and was treated, for
the most part, like garbage for daring to raise the issue.
When it was finally corrected, the local Admin Council acted
as if they alone had thought of
Last I heard, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. And until any
of us have walked in Paula's shoes, I think it's plenty disrespectful to
discredit her opinion.
Well said.
I will say that there are folks in the STC looking to make changes. As
with any organization, change is slow.
before I quit STC - for what I believe were very
justifiable reasons (having to do with a pathetic
three-tiered structure that was incredibly discrimminatory
...and yes, it's been fixed, but too late for me to
care; for
Paula...the reason I rejoined STC after 15 years was to be able to
I maintain my STC membership for access to the jobs
and resumes database, and for the occaisional social
events they put on. I never really got much more value
from my ASME or AHS memberships when I was an
engineer, either. I think people expect too much from
professional societies. It's
.
www.writepoint.com
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From: John Posada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Gordon McLean'; 'Suzette Leeming'; 'TCP List'
Subject: Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC
before I quit STC - for what I believe were very
you are angry, this is not an attack on you)
Gordon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Suzette Leeming
Sent: 07 November 2007 19:48
To: TCP List
Subject: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC
I am and have been a member of the STC for YEARS. I tried to get
I had a similar problem a few days ago. Sent a help request to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and received a very prompt and courteous and completely
helpful reply.
No problems here.
Dori Green
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Author Help files and create printed documentation with
. . . or just PHONE them at 703-522-411, explain the problem and have it taken
care of in a minute or so (or else let it develop into a war of your nerves
will versus a log-jam on the information superhightway). Sometimes a phone
call to a PERSON is better than wishing and hoping that someone
Suzette sent me a copy of the response she received from STC. It was
horrible, cold, and ungrammatical. For shame!
I must have been logging in to some other STC.
Dori Green
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Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help.
This is so common it's unbelievable. Many, many, many people have
trouble configuring their websites, or finding sendmail. The guy who
said to phone is right. Humans 1, Technology 0.
--- Suzette Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am and have been a member of the STC for YEARS. I tried to get
I am and have been a member of the STC for YEARS. I tried to get on their
main site today (www.stc.org) only to find I did not know what my password
is/was. I selected the option to send me my login information and got an
html message that an error had occurred. So, then I selected the option to
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