Re: [Texascavers] underground rights

2013-12-07 Thread Speleosteele
It was Indiana, Bill, and the case was Marengo Cave vs. Ross. http://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/property/property-law-keyed-to-cribbet/un authorized-possession/marengo-cave-co-v-ross/ And on this timeline go to 1937:

[Texascavers] Spring Creek Cave invitation for Dec. 14th trip

2013-11-21 Thread Speleosteele
Those of you who read the Texas Caver likely know that the Dallas/Fort Worth Grotto has had a multi-year project underway to thoroughly explore and survey Spring Creek Cave, north of Boerne, Texas. The 6th season (Nov. - April due to the bats) is about to begin with a trip there on Dec. 14.

Re: [Texascavers] Solo

2013-09-15 Thread Speleosteele
Jim, I would think that a lot of cavers don't want to admit to solo caving trips because it's such a bad idea. I told two stories on myself in my caving book, Huautla: Thirty Years in One of the World's Deepest Caves, pages 58 - 59 and 142 - 143. In both cases things could have gone bad.

[Texascavers] ASS cavers

2013-08-16 Thread Speleosteele
Anyone got information on a contact person for the ASS caving group at A M? Bill

[Texascavers] ASS cavers

2013-08-16 Thread Speleosteele
Anyone got information on a contact person for the ASS caving group at A M? Bill

[Texascavers] Calling all grottos!

2013-08-14 Thread speleosteele
I was at the NSS convention last week and there was something really cool there we should bring to the upcoming TCR in October. I'd like to hear from an officer of all Texas grottos to pitch you the idea of sharing the cost. It'll be worth it. Thanks, Bill Steele

[Texascavers] Calling all grottos!

2013-08-14 Thread speleosteele
I was at the NSS convention last week and there was something really cool there we should bring to the upcoming TCR in October. I'd like to hear from an officer of all Texas grottos to pitch you the idea of sharing the cost. It'll be worth it. Thanks, Bill Steele

[Texascavers] Bill Stone on NPR

2013-07-25 Thread speleosteele
Bill Stone will be featured on tomorrow's episode of the TED Radio Hour onNPR, titled To The Edge. Here's a preview of the program: http://tunein.com/radio/TED-Radio-Hour-p418021/ Bill Steele Bill Steele

[Texascavers] Bill Stone on NPR

2013-07-25 Thread speleosteele
Bill Stone will be featured on tomorrow's episode of the TED Radio Hour onNPR, titled To The Edge. Here's a preview of the program: http://tunein.com/radio/TED-Radio-Hour-p418021/ Bill Steele Bill Steele

[Texascavers] Bill Stone on NPR

2013-07-25 Thread speleosteele
Bill Stone will be featured on tomorrow's episode of the TED Radio Hour onNPR, titled To The Edge. Here's a preview of the program: http://tunein.com/radio/TED-Radio-Hour-p418021/ Bill Steele Bill Steele

[Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video

2013-06-04 Thread Speleosteele
Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman.

[Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video

2013-06-04 Thread Speleosteele
Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman.

Re: [Texascavers] Austin Lounge Lizards

2013-05-06 Thread Speleosteele
Here's a little morsel about Joe King Carrasco. In 1979 the Huautla Project held a benefit concert at Soap Creek Saloon in Austin to raise money to buy caving rope. Through Jim Lawless, a housemate of Blake Harrison's, I lined up Joe King to play at it. His band was to be one of three bands

Re: [Texascavers] Austin Lounge Lizards

2013-05-06 Thread Speleosteele
Here's a little morsel about Joe King Carrasco. In 1979 the Huautla Project held a benefit concert at Soap Creek Saloon in Austin to raise money to buy caving rope. Through Jim Lawless, a housemate of Blake Harrison's, I lined up Joe King to play at it. His band was to be one of three bands

Re: [Texascavers] Austin Lounge Lizards

2013-05-06 Thread Speleosteele
Here's a little morsel about Joe King Carrasco. In 1979 the Huautla Project held a benefit concert at Soap Creek Saloon in Austin to raise money to buy caving rope. Through Jim Lawless, a housemate of Blake Harrison's, I lined up Joe King to play at it. His band was to be one of three bands

[Texascavers] Update of British expedition to Sistema Huautla

2013-03-23 Thread Speleosteele
This was just posted on the Huautla Cave Diving Expedition Facebook page: Earlier this week the dive team returned from beyond the sump after spending one week camping and exploring. After compiling survey data we can report that Sistema Huautla is now 1,545m deep. Sump 9 was pushed to a

[Texascavers] Update of British expedition to Sistema Huautla

2013-03-23 Thread Speleosteele
This was just posted on the Huautla Cave Diving Expedition Facebook page: Earlier this week the dive team returned from beyond the sump after spending one week camping and exploring. After compiling survey data we can report that Sistema Huautla is now 1,545m deep. Sump 9 was pushed to a

[Texascavers] Update of British expedition to Sistema Huautla

2013-03-23 Thread Speleosteele
This was just posted on the Huautla Cave Diving Expedition Facebook page: Earlier this week the dive team returned from beyond the sump after spending one week camping and exploring. After compiling survey data we can report that Sistema Huautla is now 1,545m deep. Sump 9 was pushed to a

[Texascavers] Report just in from British expedition to Sistema Huautla

2013-03-21 Thread Speleosteele
News just in from the British expedition to Sistema Huautla: The divers are back on the surface after a week spent camping on the far side of the two long sumps located at the bottom of the cave system. They found about 1.5 km of new passage and the Sump 9 dive ended up at approx 450m in at

Re: [Texascavers] Huautla dive

2013-03-21 Thread Speleosteele
The news comes via Facebook from about two hours ago. The exact quote, posted by British caver Rich Hudson is: Found about 1.5 km of new passage and the sump 9 dive ended up at approx 450 m in at a depth of 80m. Sterling effort by Jason on his last 3 hr dive. Appears it was Jason

[Texascavers] Report just in from British expedition to Sistema Huautla

2013-03-21 Thread Speleosteele
News just in from the British expedition to Sistema Huautla: The divers are back on the surface after a week spent camping on the far side of the two long sumps located at the bottom of the cave system. They found about 1.5 km of new passage and the Sump 9 dive ended up at approx 450m in at

Re: [Texascavers] Huautla dive

2013-03-21 Thread Speleosteele
The news comes via Facebook from about two hours ago. The exact quote, posted by British caver Rich Hudson is: Found about 1.5 km of new passage and the sump 9 dive ended up at approx 450 m in at a depth of 80m. Sterling effort by Jason on his last 3 hr dive. Appears it was Jason

Re: [Texascavers] Huautla dive

2013-03-21 Thread Speleosteele
The news comes via Facebook from about two hours ago. The exact quote, posted by British caver Rich Hudson is: Found about 1.5 km of new passage and the sump 9 dive ended up at approx 450 m in at a depth of 80m. Sterling effort by Jason on his last 3 hr dive. Appears it was Jason

[Texascavers] Movie about Jews hiding in a Ukraine cave during WWII soon to be released

2013-03-05 Thread Speleosteele
Cavers who attended the Houston party hosted by Louise Hose and Paul Dye following the 2009 International Congress of Speleology will remember the riveting slide show by New York caver Chris Nicola about a cave in the Ukraine that Jews hid out in over a year during WWII. A movie about it has

[Texascavers] Movie about Jews hiding in a Ukraine cave during WWII soon to be released

2013-03-05 Thread Speleosteele
Cavers who attended the Houston party hosted by Louise Hose and Paul Dye following the 2009 International Congress of Speleology will remember the riveting slide show by New York caver Chris Nicola about a cave in the Ukraine that Jews hid out in over a year during WWII. A movie about it has

[Texascavers] Movie about Jews hiding in a Ukraine cave during WWII soon to be released

2013-03-05 Thread Speleosteele
Cavers who attended the Houston party hosted by Louise Hose and Paul Dye following the 2009 International Congress of Speleology will remember the riveting slide show by New York caver Chris Nicola about a cave in the Ukraine that Jews hid out in over a year during WWII. A movie about it has

[Texascavers] Paging Andy Zenker

2013-01-28 Thread Speleosteele
Please send me an e-mail. I have a question. Bill Steele

[Texascavers] Paging Andy Zenker

2013-01-28 Thread Speleosteele
Please send me an e-mail. I have a question. Bill Steele

[Texascavers] Paging Andy Zenker

2013-01-28 Thread Speleosteele
Please send me an e-mail. I have a question. Bill Steele

[Texascavers] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver newsletter

2012-12-04 Thread Speleosteele
Good morning, Texas cavers, Our new editor of the Texas Caver, Jill Orr, is seeking material for the next issue. I have volunteered to seek a couple of paragraphs from each grotto in Texas and have a regular column about grotto goin-ons. I just dashed out the two paragraphs below about my

[Texascavers] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver newsletter

2012-12-04 Thread Speleosteele
Good morning, Texas cavers, Our new editor of the Texas Caver, Jill Orr, is seeking material for the next issue. I have volunteered to seek a couple of paragraphs from each grotto in Texas and have a regular column about grotto goin-ons. I just dashed out the two paragraphs below about my

[Texascavers] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver newsletter

2012-12-04 Thread Speleosteele
Good morning, Texas cavers, Our new editor of the Texas Caver, Jill Orr, is seeking material for the next issue. I have volunteered to seek a couple of paragraphs from each grotto in Texas and have a regular column about grotto goin-ons. I just dashed out the two paragraphs below about my

Re: [Texascavers] Ben Edelstein?

2012-12-03 Thread speleosteele
Here's a link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUqWFJWEMi4 -Original Message- From: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com To: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:36 am Subject: [Texascavers] Ben Edelstein? Can someone put me in touch with Ben

Re: [Texascavers] Ben Edelstein?

2012-12-03 Thread speleosteele
Here's a link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUqWFJWEMi4 -Original Message- From: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com To: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:36 am Subject: [Texascavers] Ben Edelstein? Can someone put me in touch with Ben

Re: [Texascavers] Ben Edelstein?

2012-12-03 Thread speleosteele
Here's a link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUqWFJWEMi4 -Original Message- From: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com To: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:36 am Subject: [Texascavers] Ben Edelstein? Can someone put me in touch with Ben

[Texascavers] Tennessee's Marion O. Smith is officially an old man

2012-09-25 Thread Speleosteele
Many Texas cavers have met and have gone caving with Marion O. Smith. He's done a lot of caving in Mexico. The first time I went caving with him, in 1969, he was 26 years old and I was 20. He said he was old, and he sure seemed a lot older, even then. But look at him now. Yesterday was

[Texascavers] Tennessee's Marion O. Smith is officially an old man

2012-09-25 Thread Speleosteele
Many Texas cavers have met and have gone caving with Marion O. Smith. He's done a lot of caving in Mexico. The first time I went caving with him, in 1969, he was 26 years old and I was 20. He said he was old, and he sure seemed a lot older, even then. But look at him now. Yesterday was

[Texascavers] Tennessee's Marion O. Smith is officially an old man

2012-09-25 Thread Speleosteele
Many Texas cavers have met and have gone caving with Marion O. Smith. He's done a lot of caving in Mexico. The first time I went caving with him, in 1969, he was 26 years old and I was 20. He said he was old, and he sure seemed a lot older, even then. But look at him now. Yesterday was

Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7

2012-08-23 Thread speleosteele
You going? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org Sender: dfwgrotto-boun...@dfwgrotto.org Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:29:20 To: Allcavers Metroplex Cavers Listallcav...@metroplexcavers.org; DFW Grottodfwgro...@dfwgrotto.org Subject:

Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7

2012-08-23 Thread speleosteele
I'm in Phoenix until Saturday. Big work conference. Did RD give the program? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:31:33 To: speleoste...@aol.com Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7

Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7

2012-08-23 Thread speleosteele
Good. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:34:04 To: speleoste...@aol.com Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7 Yes, did a good job showing their fun in the hurricane. On Thu, Aug 23, 2012

Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7

2012-08-23 Thread speleosteele
You going? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org Sender: dfwgrotto-boun...@dfwgrotto.org Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:29:20 To: Allcavers Metroplex Cavers Listallcav...@metroplexcavers.org; DFW Grottodfwgro...@dfwgrotto.org Subject:

Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7

2012-08-23 Thread speleosteele
I'm in Phoenix until Saturday. Big work conference. Did RD give the program? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:31:33 To: speleoste...@aol.com Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7

Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7

2012-08-23 Thread speleosteele
You going? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org Sender: dfwgrotto-boun...@dfwgrotto.org Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:29:20 To: Allcavers Metroplex Cavers Listallcav...@metroplexcavers.org; DFW Grottodfwgro...@dfwgrotto.org Subject:

Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7

2012-08-23 Thread speleosteele
I'm in Phoenix until Saturday. Big work conference. Did RD give the program? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:31:33 To: speleoste...@aol.com Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7

Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7

2012-08-23 Thread speleosteele
Good. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:34:04 To: speleoste...@aol.com Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Fwd: Honeycreek trip Oct 6-7 Yes, did a good job showing their fun in the hurricane. On Thu, Aug 23, 2012

Re: [Texascavers] Mexican drug wars

2012-07-07 Thread Speleosteele
I just finished an excellent book on the sad situation in Mexico and I recommend it. El Narco: Inside Mexico's Criminal Insurgency, by Ioan Grillo. The dusk jacket says Ioan Grillo has reported on Latin America since 2001 for international media, including Time magazine, CNN, the Associated

Re: [Texascavers] Mexican drug wars

2012-07-07 Thread Speleosteele
I just finished an excellent book on the sad situation in Mexico and I recommend it. El Narco: Inside Mexico's Criminal Insurgency, by Ioan Grillo. The dusk jacket says Ioan Grillo has reported on Latin America since 2001 for international media, including Time magazine, CNN, the Associated

Re: [Texascavers] Mexican drug wars

2012-07-07 Thread Speleosteele
I just finished an excellent book on the sad situation in Mexico and I recommend it. El Narco: Inside Mexico's Criminal Insurgency, by Ioan Grillo. The dusk jacket says Ioan Grillo has reported on Latin America since 2001 for international media, including Time magazine, CNN, the Associated

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: CM Cave Climb 2012-06-09

2012-06-19 Thread Speleosteele
I didn't either. In a message dated 6/19/2012 8:41:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, l...@alumni.sfu.ca writes: I did not get that memo via CaveTex either. On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Scott Boyd scottd...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Alman posted a message a few days ago, right here on

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: CM Cave Climb 2012-06-09

2012-06-19 Thread Speleosteele
I didn't either. In a message dated 6/19/2012 8:41:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, l...@alumni.sfu.ca writes: I did not get that memo via CaveTex either. On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Scott Boyd scottd...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Alman posted a message a few days ago, right here on

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: CM Cave Climb 2012-06-09

2012-06-19 Thread Speleosteele
I didn't either. In a message dated 6/19/2012 8:41:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, l...@alumni.sfu.ca writes: I did not get that memo via CaveTex either. On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Scott Boyd scottd...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Alman posted a message a few days ago, right here on

Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

2012-06-06 Thread Speleosteele
Here's what I got: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier (https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/738011247/106607800) Join us on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT In a message dated 6/6/2012 10:22:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

2012-06-06 Thread Speleosteele
Here's what I got: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier (https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/738011247/106607800) Join us on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT In a message dated 6/6/2012 10:22:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

2012-06-06 Thread Speleosteele
Here's what I got: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier (https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/738011247/106607800) Join us on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT In a message dated 6/6/2012 10:22:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

[Texascavers] NSS election results

2012-05-12 Thread Speleosteele
From TagNet 1) NSS election results By: Cheryl Jones (Mclean, Virginia) cheryl.ca...@verizon.net [Re-posted from CaveChat. Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen that the info has been circulated. BTW, I heard from Allan that about 2090 ballots were cast, which is just a bit shy of last

[Texascavers] NSS election results

2012-05-12 Thread Speleosteele
From TagNet 1) NSS election results By: Cheryl Jones (Mclean, Virginia) cheryl.ca...@verizon.net [Re-posted from CaveChat. Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen that the info has been circulated. BTW, I heard from Allan that about 2090 ballots were cast, which is just a bit shy of last

[Texascavers] NSS election results

2012-05-12 Thread Speleosteele
From TagNet 1) NSS election results By: Cheryl Jones (Mclean, Virginia) cheryl.ca...@verizon.net [Re-posted from CaveChat. Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen that the info has been circulated. BTW, I heard from Allan that about 2090 ballots were cast, which is just a bit shy of last

[Texascavers] SCAM ALERT! Fwd: VACATION PROBLEM....Mark Gee

2012-03-29 Thread Speleosteele
Texas cavers, I called Mark Gee this morning and alerted him that he had been hacked and the e-mail below had been received by me. Mark attended our grotto meeting last night. He is not in Madrid, Spain. He asked me to send this notice out to his friends. This happened to Mark a year or

[Texascavers] SCAM ALERT! Fwd: VACATION PROBLEM....Mark Gee

2012-03-29 Thread Speleosteele
Texas cavers, I called Mark Gee this morning and alerted him that he had been hacked and the e-mail below had been received by me. Mark attended our grotto meeting last night. He is not in Madrid, Spain. He asked me to send this notice out to his friends. This happened to Mark a year or

[Texascavers] SCAM ALERT! Fwd: VACATION PROBLEM....Mark Gee

2012-03-29 Thread Speleosteele
Texas cavers, I called Mark Gee this morning and alerted him that he had been hacked and the e-mail below had been received by me. Mark attended our grotto meeting last night. He is not in Madrid, Spain. He asked me to send this notice out to his friends. This happened to Mark a year or

Re: [Texascavers] Extreme Cave Diving

2012-03-14 Thread Speleosteele
Cavers who have read either BEYOND THE DEEP or HUAUTLA: THIRTY YEARS IN ONE OF THE WORLD'S DEEPEST CAVES about caving at Sistema Huautla, Oaxaca, Mexico, may recognize Kenny Broad's name. He was one of the main exploratory cave divers on the epic 1994 expedition. Bill Steele In a

Re: [Texascavers] Extreme Cave Diving

2012-03-14 Thread Speleosteele
Cavers who have read either BEYOND THE DEEP or HUAUTLA: THIRTY YEARS IN ONE OF THE WORLD'S DEEPEST CAVES about caving at Sistema Huautla, Oaxaca, Mexico, may recognize Kenny Broad's name. He was one of the main exploratory cave divers on the epic 1994 expedition. Bill Steele In a

Re: [Texascavers] Extreme Cave Diving

2012-03-14 Thread Speleosteele
Cavers who have read either BEYOND THE DEEP or HUAUTLA: THIRTY YEARS IN ONE OF THE WORLD'S DEEPEST CAVES about caving at Sistema Huautla, Oaxaca, Mexico, may recognize Kenny Broad's name. He was one of the main exploratory cave divers on the epic 1994 expedition. Bill Steele In a

[Texascavers] Maryland cave rescue report

2012-02-13 Thread Speleosteele
From TagNet this morning Washington County, MD, rescue... By: Dean Wiseman (Indianapolis, Indiana) jazzpi...@mohodisco.com A few weeks ago the world was aware of a cave rescue in Schetromph Cave in Washington County, Maryland. A short version of the account was released at that time, with a

[Texascavers] Maryland cave rescue report

2012-02-13 Thread Speleosteele
From TagNet this morning Washington County, MD, rescue... By: Dean Wiseman (Indianapolis, Indiana) jazzpi...@mohodisco.com A few weeks ago the world was aware of a cave rescue in Schetromph Cave in Washington County, Maryland. A short version of the account was released at that time, with a

[Texascavers] Maryland cave rescue report

2012-02-13 Thread Speleosteele
From TagNet this morning Washington County, MD, rescue... By: Dean Wiseman (Indianapolis, Indiana) jazzpi...@mohodisco.com A few weeks ago the world was aware of a cave rescue in Schetromph Cave in Washington County, Maryland. A short version of the account was released at that time, with a

[Texascavers] Oldest cave paintings found in cave in Spain

2012-02-10 Thread Speleosteele
A recently discovered painting in Spanish caves in Costa Del Sol was found by scientists to be approximately 42,000 years old, making it the oldest artwork ever. What is more, this artwork is also the first known painting by Neanderthals, not homo sapiens. _Professor Jose Luis Sanchidrian

[Texascavers] Oldest cave paintings found in cave in Spain

2012-02-10 Thread Speleosteele
A recently discovered painting in Spanish caves in Costa Del Sol was found by scientists to be approximately 42,000 years old, making it the oldest artwork ever. What is more, this artwork is also the first known painting by Neanderthals, not homo sapiens. _Professor Jose Luis Sanchidrian

[Texascavers] Oldest cave paintings found in cave in Spain

2012-02-10 Thread Speleosteele
A recently discovered painting in Spanish caves in Costa Del Sol was found by scientists to be approximately 42,000 years old, making it the oldest artwork ever. What is more, this artwork is also the first known painting by Neanderthals, not homo sapiens. _Professor Jose Luis Sanchidrian

[Texascavers] Question about caving in Mexico

2012-01-14 Thread Speleosteele
For the present I'm chicken to go caving in Mexico. I haven't been since April 2010, now almost two years. I miss it, and it saddens me to not be caving there. But my areas of interest, Tampaulipas and Guerrero, seem particularly dangerous with rampant criminal activity by increasingly bold

[Texascavers] Question about caving in Mexico

2012-01-14 Thread Speleosteele
For the present I'm chicken to go caving in Mexico. I haven't been since April 2010, now almost two years. I miss it, and it saddens me to not be caving there. But my areas of interest, Tampaulipas and Guerrero, seem particularly dangerous with rampant criminal activity by increasingly bold

[Texascavers] Question about caving in Mexico

2012-01-14 Thread Speleosteele
For the present I'm chicken to go caving in Mexico. I haven't been since April 2010, now almost two years. I miss it, and it saddens me to not be caving there. But my areas of interest, Tampaulipas and Guerrero, seem particularly dangerous with rampant criminal activity by increasingly bold

[Texascavers] Other trip reports of recent caving

2011-12-09 Thread speleosteele
Yesterday Logan McNatt wrote in response to Jim Kennedy's Punkin Cave trip report saying, I think a lot of us on the list would enjoy reading more trip reports from those who actually go caving. I for one honestly didn't realize that. Thanks for saying so, Logan. Here are a couple of

[Texascavers] Re: Other trip reports of recent caving - WHOOOPS, FORGOT SOMEBODY!

2011-12-09 Thread speleosteele
a crossover, and at dusk did 165' The Sinkhole. Sorry, Natasha. She and I are co-authoring the article about our epic TAG trip. Bill -Original Message- From: speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: lmcnatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com; Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Fri, Dec 9, 2011 3

[Texascavers] Other trip reports of recent caving

2011-12-09 Thread speleosteele
Yesterday Logan McNatt wrote in response to Jim Kennedy's Punkin Cave trip report saying, I think a lot of us on the list would enjoy reading more trip reports from those who actually go caving. I for one honestly didn't realize that. Thanks for saying so, Logan. Here are a couple of

[Texascavers] Re: Other trip reports of recent caving - WHOOOPS, FORGOT SOMEBODY!

2011-12-09 Thread speleosteele
a crossover, and at dusk did 165' The Sinkhole. Sorry, Natasha. She and I are co-authoring the article about our epic TAG trip. Bill -Original Message- From: speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: lmcnatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com; Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Fri, Dec 9, 2011 3

[Texascavers] Other trip reports of recent caving

2011-12-09 Thread speleosteele
Yesterday Logan McNatt wrote in response to Jim Kennedy's Punkin Cave trip report saying, I think a lot of us on the list would enjoy reading more trip reports from those who actually go caving. I for one honestly didn't realize that. Thanks for saying so, Logan. Here are a couple of

[Texascavers] Re: Other trip reports of recent caving - WHOOOPS, FORGOT SOMEBODY!

2011-12-09 Thread speleosteele
a crossover, and at dusk did 165' The Sinkhole. Sorry, Natasha. She and I are co-authoring the article about our epic TAG trip. Bill -Original Message- From: speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: lmcnatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com; Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Fri, Dec 9, 2011 3

[Texascavers] Opportunity at Jewel Cave, South Dakota

2011-12-06 Thread Speleosteele
Jewel Cave National Monument is planning a project to restore the extensive trail network throughout Jewel Cave. This involves replacing, labeling, and moving navigational flagging used through trade routes, recreation routes, and common exploration travel corridors. We are soliciting help

[Texascavers] Opportunity at Jewel Cave, South Dakota

2011-12-06 Thread Speleosteele
Jewel Cave National Monument is planning a project to restore the extensive trail network throughout Jewel Cave. This involves replacing, labeling, and moving navigational flagging used through trade routes, recreation routes, and common exploration travel corridors. We are soliciting help

Re: [Texascavers] vaguely BOG related

2011-10-23 Thread Speleosteele
What she said. David, I just got home from a wonderful weekend. You know that I responded to your vaguely BOG related post to Texascavers.com from my Blackberry as I was stopped for gas on the way home with the short message of WTF? Mallory, Clint, and Roger, PLEASE correct if I'm wrong,

Re: [Texascavers] vaguely BOG related

2011-10-23 Thread Speleosteele
What she said. David, I just got home from a wonderful weekend. You know that I responded to your vaguely BOG related post to Texascavers.com from my Blackberry as I was stopped for gas on the way home with the short message of WTF? Mallory, Clint, and Roger, PLEASE correct if I'm wrong,

Re: [Texascavers] vaguely BOG related

2011-10-23 Thread Speleosteele
What she said. David, I just got home from a wonderful weekend. You know that I responded to your vaguely BOG related post to Texascavers.com from my Blackberry as I was stopped for gas on the way home with the short message of WTF? Mallory, Clint, and Roger, PLEASE correct if I'm wrong,

Re: [Texascavers] Thanks for the hot tub

2011-10-19 Thread Speleosteele
I agree that we do need to help Pete, but don't despair, his son Colin told me over the weekend that he has trained well and can take over once his dad retires from providing the hot tub. Bill In a message dated 10/19/2011 6:57:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pepabe...@hotmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] Thanks for the hot tub

2011-10-19 Thread Speleosteele
I agree that we do need to help Pete, but don't despair, his son Colin told me over the weekend that he has trained well and can take over once his dad retires from providing the hot tub. Bill In a message dated 10/19/2011 6:57:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pepabe...@hotmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] Thanks for the hot tub

2011-10-19 Thread Speleosteele
I agree that we do need to help Pete, but don't despair, his son Colin told me over the weekend that he has trained well and can take over once his dad retires from providing the hot tub. Bill In a message dated 10/19/2011 6:57:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pepabe...@hotmail.com

[Texascavers] TSA election - vote for Michael Cicherski!

2011-10-12 Thread Speleosteele
Not only is Michael an ace at keeping good financial records, but this is his kind of caving: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4QfCqvJd-M_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4QfCqvJd-M)

Re: [Texascavers] TSA election - vote for Michael Cicherski!

2011-10-12 Thread Speleosteele
Time, germa...@aol.com writes: YAY! Looking good, Michael! Thanks for posting, Bill. -Original Message- From: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: coastalcaver coastalca...@me.com Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 7:36 am Subject: [Texascavers

[Texascavers] TSA election - vote for Michael Cicherski!

2011-10-12 Thread Speleosteele
Not only is Michael an ace at keeping good financial records, but this is his kind of caving: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4QfCqvJd-M_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4QfCqvJd-M)

Re: [Texascavers] TSA election - vote for Michael Cicherski!

2011-10-12 Thread Speleosteele
Time, germa...@aol.com writes: YAY! Looking good, Michael! Thanks for posting, Bill. -Original Message- From: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: coastalcaver coastalca...@me.com Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 7:36 am Subject: [Texascavers

[Texascavers] TSA election - vote for Michael Cicherski!

2011-10-12 Thread Speleosteele
Not only is Michael an ace at keeping good financial records, but this is his kind of caving: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4QfCqvJd-M_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4QfCqvJd-M)

Re: [Texascavers] TSA election - vote for Michael Cicherski!

2011-10-12 Thread Speleosteele
Time, germa...@aol.com writes: YAY! Looking good, Michael! Thanks for posting, Bill. -Original Message- From: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: coastalcaver coastalca...@me.com Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 7:36 am Subject: [Texascavers

[Texascavers] Excellent grotto meeting program

2011-09-29 Thread Speleosteele
Last night at the DFW Grotto meeting we watched a caving video from Italy, L'Abisso (The Abyss): In the fall of 2004, Italian cavers discovered an impressive new branch in the Spluga della Preta Abyss, long known as the deepest cave in the world, and still the deepest in Italy. I think

[Texascavers] Excellent grotto meeting program

2011-09-29 Thread Speleosteele
Last night at the DFW Grotto meeting we watched a caving video from Italy, L'Abisso (The Abyss): In the fall of 2004, Italian cavers discovered an impressive new branch in the Spluga della Preta Abyss, long known as the deepest cave in the world, and still the deepest in Italy. I think

Re: [Texascavers] Announcement: 2011 NSS Board of Governor's meeting!

2011-09-19 Thread speleosteele
Good job! I can't wait. Diana and I are going for ALL OF IT! It's sure to be a fun time. Thanks a lot, Bill Steele Irving, Texas -Original Message- From: Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com To: Texascavers@Texascavers.Com texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Lyndon Tiu

[Allcavers] Fwd: [Texascavers] Announcement: 2011 NSS Board of Governor's meeting!

2011-09-19 Thread speleosteele
From: Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com To: Texascavers@Texascavers.Com texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Lyndon Tiu lyndon@gmail.com; Clint Ladd btberser...@fastmail.fm; Roger Moore cavera...@aol.com; Kevin McGowan ke...@kevinmcgowan.com Sent: Mon, Sep 19, 2011 9:39 am Subject: [Texascavers]

Re: [Texascavers] Announcement: 2011 NSS Board of Governor's meeting!

2011-09-19 Thread speleosteele
Good job! I can't wait. Diana and I are going for ALL OF IT! It's sure to be a fun time. Thanks a lot, Bill Steele Irving, Texas -Original Message- From: Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com To: Texascavers@Texascavers.Com texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Lyndon Tiu

[Allcavers] Fwd: [Texascavers] Announcement: 2011 NSS Board of Governor's meeting!

2011-09-19 Thread speleosteele
From: Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com To: Texascavers@Texascavers.Com texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Lyndon Tiu lyndon@gmail.com; Clint Ladd btberser...@fastmail.fm; Roger Moore cavera...@aol.com; Kevin McGowan ke...@kevinmcgowan.com Sent: Mon, Sep 19, 2011 9:39 am Subject: [Texascavers]

Re: [Texascavers] Announcement: 2011 NSS Board of Governor's meeting!

2011-09-19 Thread speleosteele
Good job! I can't wait. Diana and I are going for ALL OF IT! It's sure to be a fun time. Thanks a lot, Bill Steele Irving, Texas -Original Message- From: Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com To: Texascavers@Texascavers.Com texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Lyndon Tiu

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