[Texascavers] Fw: Call to Action - Discovery Channel teaches viewers how to kill bats.

2010-05-28 Thread Fofo
Hola, From the Western Region list, posted by Doug Billings. nbsp;nbsp; nbsp;- Fofo --- nbsp; I just got this from BCI.nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;I am speechlessnbsp;except for one word One word F Discovery Channel !nbsp; Here is a segment of the disgusting video on You tube.

texascavers Digest 28 May 2010 13:11:59 -0000 Issue 1062

2010-05-28 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 28 May 2010 13:11:59 - Issue 1062 Topics (messages 14912 through 14919): Re: Cookout Report # 6 14912 by: Fritz Holt 14915 by: wa5pok.peoplepc.com Krubera 14913 by: Mark Minton Re: 2010 NSS Convention-Cave Vermont! 14914 by: Dave H.

texascavers Digest 28 May 2010 16:18:04 -0000 Issue 1063

2010-05-28 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 28 May 2010 16:18:04 - Issue 1063 Topics (messages 14920 through 14926): Re: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats 14920 by: Karen 14921 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com 14922 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com 14924 by: Charles Goldsmith 14925 by: Dave H.

[NMCAVER] SWR Voting Robert's Rules of Order

2010-05-28 Thread Patricia Seiser
I've seen a variety of emails regarding the SWR voting and Robert's Rules of Order - some are misinformation, misunderstandings and some are right on. Since we have a regional occurring this weekend I thought I'd put forth the following information just to put people's minds at rest (or perhaps

texascavers Digest 28 May 2010 19:23:06 -0000 Issue 1064

2010-05-28 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 28 May 2010 19:23:06 - Issue 1064 Topics (messages 14927 through 14934): Re: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats 14927 by: Karen 14928 by: vivbone.att.net 14929 by: Louise Power continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work? 14930

[Texascavers] Ponce presentation at the Edwards Aquifer

2010-05-28 Thread Geary Schindel
Folks, I wanted to thank everyone that attended Monica Ponce's presentation today at noon at the Edwards Aquifer Authority. We had one of our largest turnouts of any Brown Bag we've held and a number of cavers were in attendance. I think Ron Fieseler won the award for the longest distance

Re: [Texascavers] Ponce presentation at the Edwards Aquifer

2010-05-28 Thread Jennifer Arburn
Awesome!! Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote: Folks, I wanted to thank everyone that attended Monica Ponce’s presentation today at noon at the Edwards Aquifer Authority. We had one of our largest turnouts of any Brown

[Texascavers] FW: ARC Wilderness First Aid Training Aug 6 - 8, 2010

2010-05-28 Thread Geary Schindel
Subject: ARC Wilderness First Aid Training Aug 6 - 8, 2010 What? American Red Cross - Wilderness First Aid Training. When? 7PM to 10 PM, Friday, August 6th 9AM to 6 PM, Saturday, August 7th 9AM to 6 PM, Sunday, August 8th. Participants MUST attend all sessions Where? Sally Cheever Girl Scout

[Texascavers] RE: ARC Wilderness First Aid Training Aug 6 - 8, 2010

2010-05-28 Thread Geary Schindel
I will say that this is an excellent course and teaches important life skills. I would encourage anyone that caves or is every more than 30 minutes away from EMS to take this course (that's everyone who ever leaves the city). If you are from out of town and want to attend, let me know and we

[Texascavers] continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work?

2010-05-28 Thread Jules Jenkins
Oh gawd, for years now I've read and deleted and used all my options for blocking the truly sad cavers among you all who need to desperately get a life.  Why in the world do you think we care about most of the drivel that this listserv has de-evolved into.  I made a hard decision to not waste

Re: [Texascavers] continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work?

2010-05-28 Thread Fofo
Hi, Jules. Sorry to see you go. There's a link at the bottom of each message that says: To unsubscribe, e-mail:nbsp;texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com Take care, nbsp;nbsp; nbsp; - Fofo On May 28, 2010 13:08, Jules Jenkins lt;julesje...@yahoo.comgt; wrote: Oh gawd, for years now I've

Re: [Texascavers] continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work?

2010-05-28 Thread Michael Sisson
I've had the same problem trying to get removed from this mail list. On May 28, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jules Jenkins julesje...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh gawd, for years now I've read and deleted and used all my options for blocking the truly sad cavers among you all who need to desperately get a life.

Re: [Texascavers] continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work?

2010-05-28 Thread Michael Sisson
The unsubscribe link doesn't show up for me. On May 28, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Fofo gonza...@msu.edu wrote: Hi, Jules. Sorry to see you go. There's a link at the bottom of each message that says: To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com Take care, - Fofo On May

Re: [Texascavers] continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work?

2010-05-28 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Some email clients strip the footer that is supposed to show. Instructions for the list are and have always been at http://texascavers.com/ http://texascavers.com/I have received no email (webmaster and postmaster emails come to me) and have since I took over in 2005. Also, note, yahoo has

Re: [Texascavers] continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work?

2010-05-28 Thread Christopher E. Francke
Please remove methanks. --- On Fri, 5/28/10, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org Subject: Re: [Texascavers] continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work? To: Jules Jenkins julesje...@yahoo.com Cc: Cavetex

Re: [Texascavers] continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work?

2010-05-28 Thread Bill Bentley
Help I am reading and I can't stop! LOL... Bill - Original Message - From: Charles Goldsmith To: Jules Jenkins Cc: Cavetex Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work? Some email

Re: [Texascavers] continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work?

2010-05-28 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Fun stuff On May 28, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote: Help I am reading and I can't stop! LOL... Bill - Original Message - From: Charles Goldsmith To: Jules Jenkins Cc: Cavetex Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] continuing

Re: [Texascavers] continuing to read the drivel or unsubscribing and does it work?

2010-05-28 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Christopher, did you try the unsubscribe email? I'm not near a computer today, only using a phone for email. I can help on Sunday if you still need assistance. Charles On May 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Christopher E. Francke cefran...@yahoo.com wrote: Please remove methanks. --- On

unsubscribe me please.

2010-05-28 Thread Julie Jenkins
Hi Charles, could you please remove my yahoo address from cavetex. julesje...@yahoo.com Folks who need to contact me, I shall do my best to answer in a timely manner. Otherwise, I know my life will be less enriched but, I shall do my best to endure. Thank you Charles, for removing my

Re: unsubscribe me please.

2010-05-28 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Julie, I'm out of town on a trip with only email on a phone. I'm assuming that the unsub email that was posted today didn't work, but I can help you out on Sunday. You mentioned something about filters today I think, but if I could suggest sorting the mail into folders or labels, it really

[Texascavers] drivel analysis

2010-05-28 Thread David
This is meant to be funny and not mean spirited. I don't know if the recent upset poster was upset with my drivel, but I would like to note that according to my e-mail records, this poster, has posted enough drivel in the past year to say that the pot is calling the kettle black Quote: YEAH,

Re: [Texascavers] drivel analysis

2010-05-28 Thread Charles Goldsmith
David, this did not need to goto the list, it's way off topic and I doubt it will be taken in humor. On May 28, 2010, at 11:28 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: This is meant to be funny and not mean spirited. I don't know if the recent upset poster was upset with my drivel, but I

List help and email

2010-05-28 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I received a couple of emails today asking for list help, and with the last few emails posted to the list, I'd like to offer up some help and advice. As the list admin, my job is to keep the wheels of the bus rolling and also keep the peace by enforcing the couple of rules we have. I also see

[Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread Geary Schindel
Graham Schindel sent me this. Geary Not sure if this has gone through Cave Tex but it should. Cavers, Here is a note sent out from BCI about a bat killing video. As if WNS isn't enough... - A recent episode of Discovery Channel's Man vs. Wild featured Bear Grylls

Re: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread tbsamsel
Grylls is an idiot, like most reality show folks. May 28, 2010 07:51:57 AM, gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote: Graham Schindel sent me this. Geary Not sure if this has gone through Cave Tex but it should. Cavers, Here is a note sent out from BCI about a bat killing video. As if WNS isn't

Re: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread Heather Tucek
Unfortunately, so are a lot of non-television people... I can see this being a very bad thing. On 28 May 2010 08:02, tbsam...@verizon.net wrote: Grylls is an idiot, like most reality show folks. May 28, 2010 07:51:57 AM, gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote: Graham Schindel sent me this.

Re: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread Karen
Ditto here. Bats are not insects to beat/squash... *Very* disgusted, Karen On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.org wrote: Unfortunately, so are a lot of non-television people... I can see this being a very bad thing. On 28 May 2010 08:02, tbsam...@verizon.net

RE: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread Mark . Alman
As well as a fraud. Mark From: tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@verizon.net] Sent: Fri 5/28/2010 8:02 AM To: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats Grylls is an idiot,

RE: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread Mark . Alman
Just watched the video. You can supply your own adjective, but, IMHO appalling, irresponsible, reprehensible are good starts. What is most disturbing is the unabashed glee this moron displays while using these bats for badminton practice. He doesn't even try to make it acceptable by

Re: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Is there any type of legal aspect of this that could put pressure on them? Cruelty to animals comes to mind. Also, anyone have a contact at PETA, as bad as I hate that organization for it's antics, they have a large voice. Charles On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:53 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread Dave H. Crusoe
Charles, At your suggestion, I wrote the following to PETA's info line ( http://www.peta.org/actioncenter/onlinecruelty.asp ); not sure what they might do, but perhaps help mobilize the twitterati? (As I'm sure others have done, I've also fwd'd to the local grottos).

Fwd: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Here is a note sent out from BCI about a bat killing video. As if WNS isn't enough... - A recent episode of Discovery Channel's Man vs. Wild featured Bear Grylls gleefully killing bats with a homemade club. The clip, which shows Grylls throwing a flame in a cave to smoke out

RE: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread Geary Schindel
Some states have laws that protect non-game animals from being killed. It would be interesting to investigate the state this was filmed in and see if bats are protected and if so, whether he had the necessary permits to kill them. Having him arrested for destruction of wildlife would be

Re: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread Karen
The youtube video appears to have been removed. I read elsewhere this was filmed in China. Not sure if that's accurate, but here's an interesting journal abstract: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?aid=5487824 On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Geary Schindel

Re: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread vivbone
I found it on the Discovery Site just a few minutes ago. Yes, it was part of a China series. I hate to give them traffic on their site. That's a win for them, but I had to see what I was complaining about. From: Karen karen.mast...@gmail.com To: Geary

RE: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread Louise Power
I was about to point out the same thing. It's at http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/man-vs-wild-china/ The description of the clip (called Bat Tennis) says: Hankering for a meal of bat, Bear Grylles attempts an unusual ancient tribal technique to catch his prey. He doesn't shoot fire

Re: RE: [Texascavers] FW: Man vs. Wild: Man vs. Bats

2010-05-28 Thread tbsamsel
FYI, Discovery is the channel that's going to have Sarah Palin as a "host" for a "reality" show on Alaska.The Saints preserve us.TMay 28, 2010 12:08:57 PM, power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: I was about to point out the same thing. It's at http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/man-vs-wild-china/ The

[Texascavers] Man vs. Wild: Contact Discovery Channel today!

2010-05-28 Thread Frank Binney
More than just express our outrage on CaveTex, it¹s important to let Discovery Channel know that clubbing bats for the purposes of staged public entertainment is not only morally reprehensible, but a public relations disaster that will have a negative impact on corporate profits. Follow the link