[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-06-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Chris Totally agree. Mat's branching bubbles are visually awesome & have huge utility. The family tree problem is a big issue, but he should not get bogged in it. J. Christopher Arcadia wrote: > > I agree it is no so useful as a family tree but it would be great if we > could

Re: [tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-06-08 Thread K500 L501
"visualize the tiddlers that share the same tag" - wouldnt that be what TidGraph is doing? -Kilo On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 5:26 AM, Christopher Arcadia < christopher_arca...@brown.edu> wrote: > I agree it is no so useful as a family tree but it would be great if we > could automatically visualize

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-06-07 Thread Christopher Arcadia
I agree it is no so useful as a family tree but it would be great if we could automatically visualize the tiddlers that share the same tag. But as is, manually writing diagrams look out very nice using Mat's stylesheet. On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 7:19:13 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > >

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-06-05 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mat i maybe commented before that this and your great graphic family tree, unfortunately does not work. This is because you are only depicting UNI-linear descent. That's fine for some parts of the world, but Western societies, on the whole, think in terms of BI-lateral descent (i.e.

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-06-05 Thread Mat
Asimov Isaac wrote: > > > Maybe I could email the author of the "family-tree" and consult him about > this? > Hi, I made "family-tree" but it's "more experimental than public". It was a side project as I made http://listtree.tiddlyspot.com/ The only weakness is that it only creates vertical

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-06-05 Thread Yakov
Just for the record: most of tiddlyspaces are accessible via the Web Archive (example: [1]), although some are in outdated versions. Best regards, Yakov. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20131219043836/http://treedg.tiddlyspace.com/ среда, 17 мая 2017 г., 8:02:52 UTC+3 пользователь Asimov

Re: [tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-05-20 Thread Asimov Isaac
Yeah, it's really COOL! You can also try to search some other keywords, or remove the "!" before the "[system]". And you can find more interesting and funny tips with the "list-links Macro". This is embedded in TiddlyWiki. Refer to the link below: http://tiddlywiki.com/#list-links Macro

Re: [tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-05-20 Thread Pit.W.
Just for the fun of it: I found this by accident. the code below leads also to results. Could be quite powerful... Was that intended? @Mat Or is it an "Easter egg" ? Kind regards Pit *Tree *Tree2 **<> Am 2017-05-18 um 09:11 schrieb Asimov Isaac: Thank you for your nice advice. Yes, I

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-05-18 Thread Asimov Isaac
Thank you for your nice advice. Yes, I have installed Tidgraph before. It is really amazing. But the disadvantage of Tidgraph is that the nodes must be tiddlers or the filter operators of tiddlers. What I want is that I do not need to create new tiddlers, and the nodes are just some texts. Just

Re: [tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-05-17 Thread Alex Hough
The TidGraph would be good if the node filter could take TagTemplate...they you could see and rearange tiddlers <$tidgraph start="Virtues" nodetemplate="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate"/> Alex - On 17 May 2017 at 13:09, Stephen Wilson wrote: > Have you tried TidGraph? >

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-05-17 Thread Stephen Wilson
Have you tried TidGraph? https://ihm4u.github.io/tw5plugs/#Tidgraph%20-%20Easy%20tiddler%20graphs%20for%20TW5 Might do what you're looking for. Stephen On Wednesday, 17 May 2017 06:02:52 UTC+1, Asimov Isaac wrote: > > Hi, Tobias. > I have been looking for a *Horizontal *Tree plugin for a long

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2017-05-16 Thread Asimov Isaac
Hi, Tobias. I have been looking for a *Horizontal *Tree plugin for a long time. The plugins like "family-tree" or "list-tree" can only render vertical list, such as: - - - sss - ooo - Fortunately, I found your post here, and the style in the picture below is

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-22 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi GJRobert, I have commited the new version 0.5.7 now. It's now at... https://github.com/tobibeer/TiddlyWikiPlugins/blob/master/forked/NodeTreePlugin.js What do you think? Unfortunately, moving a file to a different folder unlinks the history for it, but it's all still there...

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-22 Thread G.J.Robert
So nice! You did it! It seems that you have find a clever easy way to fix the non-working :last-of-type. Wow I got it: you have converted the pseudo element selector to a class! Marvelous. jQuery is indeed such a saviour... I should try to undestand it sometime. I have done a test before I see

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-22 Thread G.J.Robert
I have just updated @nodetreeplugin by importing from @tbDev. Maybe you can double check if anything missing? Btw, how about adding a link to readable source in the slices? G.J.Robert於 2013年9月22日星期日UTC+8下午8時20分01秒寫道: So nice! You did it! It seems that you have find a clever easy way to fix

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-22 Thread Tobias Beer
Of course. Done. ;-) I've updated @NodeTreePlugin, too. - tb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-20 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi GJRobert, I think your test for the proposed 0.5.7 is quite good, almost the same as the original custom elements. If it is for better compatibility, I support to change tl, ti etc. to proper divs. The only weird thing I found in my Firefox 23 is that one of the nt-ti is not recognized

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-20 Thread Tobias Beer
Also, this only works when there is just one ts at the beginning or end... .nt-ts:first-child:before, .nt-ts:last-child:before, .nt-ts:only-child:before{ background-image: none; } When there are multiple it breaks. Perhaps it's better to use jQuery and dedicated classes after all? Would be

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-19 Thread G.J.Robert
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N9zELmVm_Y8/UjuccMfEPnI/DFE/RB153nl6HWo/s1600/NodeTree_0.5.7_test.png Hi Tobias, I think your test for the proposed 0.5.7 is quite good, almost the same as the original custom elements. If it is for better compatibility, I support to change tl, ti

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi GJRobert, I see. IE10 cannot even parse :before and :after correctly? That sounds horrible. If IE has this limitation, will it improves the situation on it if we change the custom elements tl ti tp ts to spans? This compatibility chart...

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-16 Thread G.J.Robert
Greetings Tobias, Tobias Beer於 2013年9月15日星期日UTC+8上午8時28分34秒寫道: Hi GJRobert, Ah, actually I think I have mixed HTML up with XHTML... I have read that in XHTML 1.1 we can write any new element as we like, and then using CSS to style it. I am actually not aware when the tide changes to

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-14 Thread G.J.Robert
Tobias Beer於 2013年9月13日星期五UTC+8下午3時15分02秒寫道: Ha, there are actually: - tl = tree lists, just like ol ul dl - ti = tree items, just like li - tp = tree parent nodes - ts = tree separators/spacers I thought of using table cells and borders to make such a tree diagram in the

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi GJRobert, Ah, actually I think I have mixed HTML up with XHTML... I have read that in XHTML 1.1 we can write any new element as we like, and then using CSS to style it. I am actually not aware when the tide changes to HTML5, so I thought using TiddlyWiki formatter extensions to

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-13 Thread Tobias Beer
Ha, there are actually: - tl = tree lists, just like ol ul dl - ti = tree items, just like li - tp = tree parent nodes - ts = tree separators/spacers I thought of using table cells and borders to make such a tree diagram in the first place, but I knew this would take too

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread Eskha
A really nice plugin! I think, the two following features could be interresting: * Before any vertical bar, having an horizontal bar centered on the parent node, * Having a syntax to do vertical diagrams instead of horizontal ones. Best regards. Eskha Le jeudi 12 septembre 2013 02:47:38

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi, I think, the two following features could be interresting: * Before any vertical bar, having an horizontal bar centered on the parent node, I second that, guess I'd like it to see it like this with rather small lines, just the slightes visual clue...

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Some more things... *(a) *I see your space ships with these simplistic grahpics. I don't think you need those and so I think you should get rid of them. All you need is a bordera simplistic *Base64 *encoded 1x1 pixel held by a section or slice or variable in your plugin... which you then

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi again, *(d) *right now I am playing with getting rid of images entirely and putting nothing but borders I guess that won't work with borders because you can't quite center that horizontally, can you now ;-) *(e)* Seeing how you have included @White now, you should definetely create a

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi, I must say Robert, I quite like this plugin! Has a lot of potential. *(1) *I have played a bit with it and made use of *Base64*... http://tbdev.tiddlyspace.com/#NodeTreePlugin **Like that it's all just one plugin, no additional images. ;-) *(2) *By the way, I have added that parent

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi again, I have commited the above MOD to my repo on Github and did some commenting... https://github.com/tobibeer/TiddlyWikiPlugins/commit/ecf90924f81fa6bc13561af19491986f0d7ddcc2 For the readable source code by itself, see...

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread G.J.Robert
Hi, I'm back. I was playing with PolyGlotPlugin on my new space and went out for a class so have to catch up with the progress during the last hours ;-) Very happy to see your feedbacks and even quite a few improvements which I must learn to do. Great! Tobias Beer於

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread G.J.Robert
Hi Tobias, I'm really delighted to read all the posts above and see all the improvements you implemented. Thanks a lot for the help beyond my limitation and the new practices which I can learn from. Mind if I leave the new plan for tomorrow of UTC+8 here? ;-) Here's my plan: 1. Short-term

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi GJRobert, Firstly, I have made another few commits... https://github.com/tobibeer/TiddlyWikiPlugins/commit/4463356dbf170ef8b783cbcac669c09130aaedd6 The images are actually now created in the StyleSheet shadow which makes it easier to modify for an end user... see commit comments. I'm

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread G.J.Robert
Tobias Beer於 2013年9月12日星期四UTC+8下午8時02分54秒寫道: Hi, I must say Robert, I quite like this plugin! Has a lot of potential. *(1) *I have played a bit with it and made use of *Base64*... http://tbdev.tiddlyspace.com/#NodeTreePlugin **Like that it's all just one plugin, no additional images.

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread G.J.Robert
Tobias Beer於 2013年9月12日星期四UTC+8下午6時06分02秒寫道: Hi again, *(d) *right now I am playing with getting rid of images entirely and putting nothing but borders I guess that won't work with borders because you can't quite center that horizontally, can you now ;-) *(e)* Seeing how you have

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-12 Thread G.J.Robert
Tobias Beer於 2013年9月12日星期四UTC+8下午5時47分02秒寫道: Some more things... *(a) *I see your space ships with these simplistic grahpics. I don't think you need those and so I think you should get rid of them. All you need is a bordera simplistic *Base64 *encoded 1x1 pixel held by a section or

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-11 Thread Tobias Beer
I hacked (ugly-ly) and extended the list formatter handler of TWc because I needed a tree-like diagram or something like cladograms found on Wikipedia species, to organize my notebook. For those who may be interested, it's published on a TiddlySpace plugin-space:

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-11 Thread G.J.Robert
Tobias Beer於 2013年9月11日星期三UTC+8下午6時24分23秒寫道: I hacked (ugly-ly) and extended the list formatter handler of TWc because I needed a tree-like diagram or something like cladograms found on Wikipedia species, to organize my notebook. For those who may be interested, it's published on a

[tw] Re: [TWc] TreeDiagramFormatterPlugin

2013-09-10 Thread Sonda
Wonderful! Il giorno martedì 10 settembre 2013 15:16:44 UTC+2, G.J.Robert ha scritto: Hi, I hacked (ugly-ly) and extended the list formatter handler of TWc because I needed a tree-like diagram or something like cladograms found on Wikipedia species, to organize my notebook. For those who