[tw5] thumbnails macro (thumbnails images from tiddlers)

[Mohammad]

Announcement

http://thumbnails.tiddlyspot.com/ 


*Announcement*

(This is a duplicate of another post under: thumbnail images from tiddlers 
)


http://thumbnails.tiddlyspot.com/


*Thumbnails* is a set of css and macro to create thumbnails ( small images) 
from tiddlers.

   - Each thumbnail is clickable
   - Thumbnails are numbered sequentially. The order can be changed (for 
   example using the tiddler list filed, Edit Seasons 
    tiddler to see an example)
   - The thumbnails can be customized in color, font, size and other visual 
   properties
   - The main purpose is to create thumbnails for slides in a presentation 
   (used in Tiddlyshow App )


Thank you to all great people in this forum specially the comments by Mark 
S are highly appreciated!

*Minor issues:*

   - Thumbnail create a snapshot of tiddler content not an exact image of 
   the tiddler
   - The properties come from ViewTemplate are not shown in thumbnails
   - The properties come from Custom styles by data-tags are not shown in 
   thumnails
   - Images may need to be adjusted in size


I appreciate to have your comments and feedback on this code. I kindly 
request for help to resolve the minor issues.

Best
*Mohammad*

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[tw5] Re: thumbnail images from tiddlers

[Mohammad]

Announcement

http://thumbnails.tiddlyspot.com/


*Thumbnails* is a set of css and macro to create thumbnails ( small images) 
from tiddlers.

   - Each thumbnail is clickable
   - Thumbnails are numbered sequentially. The order can be changed (for 
   example using the tiddler list filed, Edit Seasons 
    tiddler to see an example)
   - The thumbnails can be customized in color, font, size and other visual 
   properties
   - The main purpose is to create thumbnails for slides in a presentation 
   (used in Tiddlyshow App )


Thank you to all great people in this forum specially the comments by Mark 
S are highly appreciated!

*Minor issues:*

   - Thumbnail create a snapshot of tiddler content not an exact image of 
   the tiddler
   - The properties come from ViewTemplate are not shown in thumbnails
   - The properties come from Custom styles by data-tags are not shown in 
   thumnails
   - Images may need to be adjusted in size



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[tw5] Re: Delete a field on a newly "cloned" tiddler

[TonyM]

Mark,

As I posted I am happy to use the existence of a /template subtiddler because I 
can simply use a custom clone button. In fact I can see being able store 
additional info about the template or even listing the resulting tiddlers.

However I have thought of allowing check boxes on each field of one tiddler to 
copy or append to a target tiddler. Similer to how you suggest.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] A theme for journalling

[passingby]

Is there a theme or customisation oriented specifically for journalling or 
diary writing? 

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[tw5] Re: How to create a new tiddler with custom predefined fields?

[passingby]

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 6:22:16 AM UTC-6, Alexei R wrote:
>
> Please give me some simple example.
>
>
I have this tiddler in my TW which creates a simple contact tiddler.

<$button class='tc-btn-invisible' tooltip="Create a new contact">

<$action-createtiddler

$basetitle='New Contact'

tags='contact'

firstname=''

middlename=''

lastname=''

address=''

phone=''

email=''

reference=''

birth=''

death=''

$savetitle='$:/.user/CreateContact!!newContact'

/>

<$action-sendmessage

$message="tm-edit-tiddler"

$param={{$:/.user/CreateContact!!newContact}}/>

{{$:/.user/images/add-contact.svg}}



 


So a button is created, which when pressed not only creates the tiddler 
with pre-defined fields but also opens it up for editing. Just like New 
Tiddler button. 

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[tw5] Re: How to create a new tiddler with custom predefined fields?

[Alexei R]

I'v just discovered the Stephan's Hradek work TW5 Magick at 
http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
At 2014 he put together a "simple Contacts DB" that supposed to do exactly 
what I'm looking for.
But it bit outdated and didn't work well in current TiddlyWiki.
Can someone help to update it and get it working well?

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 9:20:21 AM UTC+3, Alexei R wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> Please help me to find the best way to create a new tiddlers with custom 
> predefined fields. 
> Preferably I need to be able to create a couple different types of 
> tiddlers each with different set of fields...
>
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>

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[h0p3]

So finding good ways to organize my tabs and containers (living bookmark 
workflows) has been a quest of mine for a while. I've tried some different 
options out, and the add-on based solutions seem to have huge performance 
losses for me. I've probably been incompetent in how I wield and tweak 
these environments. I'm always looking to improve (so if you have any 
approaches or tricks, please let me know).

I can't live without workspaces; virtualization of desktops has changed how 
I reason about practical computing in a ton of ways. I've come a long way 
since Commodore 64 and Windows, and at this point, I'm addicted to 
workspaces in my desktop environments. This caused me to move to tiling 
window managers as my desktop environment to have more microscopic control 
and automation. I can't say I'm good at it, but it's been damned useful. 

I often abuse Ctrl+Tab and Ctrl+Shift+Tab to navigate my tabs in FF. I 
navigate between my tabbed FF windows with mod+Tab and Mod+Shift+Tab with 
the same directionality. It makes a kind of tree.

Here's a notion of the DE and the "Tabbed Tiling" of the FF windows. Each 
Tiled Tab is a container 






This is when I switch to another browser window tab.




The tile window manager gets pretty awesome when I need to start using lots 
of windows in the same container (each tab can be its own container). For 
example:



Working in terminals while browsing is useful. It can make even messy 
workspaces very usable.



Background to boot, clean workspace to boot:


That's the idea anyways. I'm hoping with BurnTreeC's Select Mode add-on, 
I'll be able to continue to using less of my mouse with Tiddlywiki (which I 
use in full screen mode) especially.



On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 2:26:42 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Digresssing from the digression ... what do you do to get those tabbed 
> window trees?
>
> Thanks,
> -- Mark
>
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:14:27 AM UTC-7, h0p3 wrote:
>>
>> This may be a FF issue, but it's Tiddlywiki and Tiddlyback related in 
>> this case, imho. Maybe there is something to be done here besides closing 
>> FF out. I'm hopeful something can be done because I generally have several 
>> hundred tabs between 5-10 FF windows open at all times (tabbed window trees 
>> are amazing) with 40-60 add-ons and other tweaks sitting at ~4GB without 
>> running into this memory problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 1:55:35 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I've had memory problems with or without TW (I think) with FF on 
>>> Windows. I don't seem to have the same problems when running on linux, but 
>>> that may just be that linux leaves more memory for FF to work with. I was 
>>> hoping that all the changes at 57 would result in better memory management, 
>>> but alas, that is not the case. The only solution seems to be to 
>>> periodically close out FF.  
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:29:12 AM UTC-7, h0p3 wrote:

 I don't want to derail this thread at all, but I have a slightly 
 related issue. I'm hoping you may be able to help me figure it out 
 (obviously, you owe me nothing, and I appreciate your consideration to any 
 degree). 

 I believe I'm experiencing a memory leak which may be related to 
 TiddlyBackup (the only extension that consistently works for me). I use 
 FF61 (TiddlyBackup, Owl, AdNauseam, English Popup Dictionary, 
 ScrollAnywhere; fairly vanilla otherwise), on Manjaro, and I save probably 
 ~100 a time day (or more). I'm using between 5-15GB (including swap) of 
 RAM 
 on FF which only has my wiki loaded. When I close it out, and reload, I'm 
 back down to minimal FF memory usage. Clearly, I am doing something wrong. 
 I spend so much time in Tiddlywiki (https://philosopher.life/) that 
 I'm willing to spend 15GB of memory if I need to. I'd rather not though. 

 I have it set to 10 Backups; my wiki is ~18MB in size.

 I can't reproduce it other than just through my daily usage (and that 
 isn't terribly consistent either). From a freshly opened browser, I can 
 spam save 20 times in a row, and my memory usage will balloon up 

[tw5] Sort Filter results by most common

[Dave]

Is there a way to sort the results of a filter by frequency of most common to 
single instance?

E.g. let's say a filter puts out the following:

Apple pear Orange
Pear 
Orange banana
Orange grapefruit

How would you filter it further to result with something like this:

Orange 3
Pear 2
Apple 
banana
Grapefruit

Thanks,
- Dave

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Digresssing from the digression ... what do you do to get those tabbed 
window trees?

Thanks,
-- Mark

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:14:27 AM UTC-7, h0p3 wrote:
>
> This may be a FF issue, but it's Tiddlywiki and Tiddlyback related in this 
> case, imho. Maybe there is something to be done here besides closing FF 
> out. I'm hopeful something can be done because I generally have several 
> hundred tabs between 5-10 FF windows open at all times (tabbed window trees 
> are amazing) with 40-60 add-ons and other tweaks sitting at ~4GB without 
> running into this memory problem.
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 1:55:35 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I've had memory problems with or without TW (I think) with FF on Windows. 
>> I don't seem to have the same problems when running on linux, but that may 
>> just be that linux leaves more memory for FF to work with. I was hoping 
>> that all the changes at 57 would result in better memory management, but 
>> alas, that is not the case. The only solution seems to be to periodically 
>> close out FF.  
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:29:12 AM UTC-7, h0p3 wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't want to derail this thread at all, but I have a slightly related 
>>> issue. I'm hoping you may be able to help me figure it out (obviously, you 
>>> owe me nothing, and I appreciate your consideration to any degree). 
>>>
>>> I believe I'm experiencing a memory leak which may be related to 
>>> TiddlyBackup (the only extension that consistently works for me). I use 
>>> FF61 (TiddlyBackup, Owl, AdNauseam, English Popup Dictionary, 
>>> ScrollAnywhere; fairly vanilla otherwise), on Manjaro, and I save probably 
>>> ~100 a time day (or more). I'm using between 5-15GB (including swap) of RAM 
>>> on FF which only has my wiki loaded. When I close it out, and reload, I'm 
>>> back down to minimal FF memory usage. Clearly, I am doing something wrong. 
>>> I spend so much time in Tiddlywiki (https://philosopher.life/) that I'm 
>>> willing to spend 15GB of memory if I need to. I'd rather not though. 
>>>
>>> I have it set to 10 Backups; my wiki is ~18MB in size.
>>>
>>> I can't reproduce it other than just through my daily usage (and that 
>>> isn't terribly consistent either). From a freshly opened browser, I can 
>>> spam save 20 times in a row, and my memory usage will balloon up for a 
>>> minutes, but eventually something cuts away at quite a bit of it (still 
>>> using 3GB of memory instead of 2GB on startup). However, over the course of 
>>> a day, it builds up and doesn't get culled away. Is it demonically 
>>> possessed? No, I am probably incompetent here. I woke up this morning with 
>>> almost max memory usage which was solved by just closing the FF for TW (I 
>>> use FF dev ed for browsing). I'd prefer to only close the browser when I've 
>>> got an excellent reason.
>>>
>>> I may just eventually move to the NPM version, but I've experienced 
>>> other kinds of problems with it. 
>>>
>>> I'm probably thinking about this all wrong-headed, and I would be 
>>> grateful for any insight you may have to quelling this problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 4:25:35 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:

 On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:20:25 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
>
> Click the TW save button. ... there should be a message like this: 
>
> "saver-handler: Saving wiki with method save through saver tiddlyfox" 
> ... if either file-backups or savetiddlers extension is active. 
>

 savetiddlers also shows 3 more lines of info. 

 I did test this with FF-portable 61.0.1 - porableapps .com downloaded 
 from duckduckgo 

 -m

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[h0p3]

This may be a FF issue, but it's Tiddlywiki and Tiddlyback related in this, 
imho. Maybe there is something to be done here besides closing FF out. I'm 
hopeful something that be done because I generally have several hundred 
tabs between 5-10 windows open at all times (tabbed window trees are 
amazing) with 40-60 add-ons and other tweaks sitting at ~4GB without 
running into that problem.



On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 1:55:35 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I've had memory problems with or without TW (I think) with FF on Windows. 
> I don't seem to have the same problems when running on linux, but that may 
> just be that linux leaves more memory for FF to work with. I was hoping 
> that all the changes at 57 would result in better memory management, but 
> alas, that is not the case. The only solution seems to be to periodically 
> close out FF.  
>
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:29:12 AM UTC-7, h0p3 wrote:
>>
>> I don't want to derail this thread at all, but I have a slightly related 
>> issue. I'm hoping you may be able to help me figure it out (obviously, you 
>> owe me nothing, and I appreciate your consideration to any degree). 
>>
>> I believe I'm experiencing a memory leak which may be related to 
>> TiddlyBackup (the only extension that consistently works for me). I use 
>> FF61 (TiddlyBackup, Owl, AdNauseam, English Popup Dictionary, 
>> ScrollAnywhere; fairly vanilla otherwise), on Manjaro, and I save probably 
>> ~100 a time day (or more). I'm using between 5-15GB (including swap) of RAM 
>> on FF which only has my wiki loaded. When I close it out, and reload, I'm 
>> back down to minimal FF memory usage. Clearly, I am doing something wrong. 
>> I spend so much time in Tiddlywiki (https://philosopher.life/) that I'm 
>> willing to spend 15GB of memory if I need to. I'd rather not though. 
>>
>> I have it set to 10 Backups; my wiki is ~18MB in size.
>>
>> I can't reproduce it other than just through my daily usage (and that 
>> isn't terribly consistent either). From a freshly opened browser, I can 
>> spam save 20 times in a row, and my memory usage will balloon up for a 
>> minutes, but eventually something cuts away at quite a bit of it (still 
>> using 3GB of memory instead of 2GB on startup). However, over the course of 
>> a day, it builds up and doesn't get culled away. Is it demonically 
>> possessed? No, I am probably incompetent here. I woke up this morning with 
>> almost max memory usage which was solved by just closing the FF for TW (I 
>> use FF dev ed for browsing). I'd prefer to only close the browser when I've 
>> got an excellent reason.
>>
>> I may just eventually move to the NPM version, but I've experienced other 
>> kinds of problems with it. 
>>
>> I'm probably thinking about this all wrong-headed, and I would be 
>> grateful for any insight you may have to quelling this problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 4:25:35 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:20:25 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:


 Click the TW save button. ... there should be a message like this: 

 "saver-handler: Saving wiki with method save through saver tiddlyfox" 
 ... if either file-backups or savetiddlers extension is active. 

>>>
>>> savetiddlers also shows 3 more lines of info. 
>>>
>>> I did test this with FF-portable 61.0.1 - porableapps .com downloaded 
>>> from duckduckgo 
>>>
>>> -m
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I've had memory problems with or without TW (I think) with FF on Windows. I 
don't seem to have the same problems when running on linux, but that may 
just be that linux leaves more memory for FF to work with. I was hoping 
that all the changes at 57 would result in better memory management, but 
alas, that is not the case. The only solution seems to be to periodically 
close out FF.  

-- Mark


On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:29:12 AM UTC-7, h0p3 wrote:
>
> I don't want to derail this thread at all, but I have a slightly related 
> issue. I'm hoping you may be able to help me figure it out (obviously, you 
> owe me nothing, and I appreciate your consideration to any degree). 
>
> I believe I'm experiencing a memory leak which may be related to 
> TiddlyBackup (the only extension that consistently works for me). I use 
> FF61 (TiddlyBackup, Owl, AdNauseam, English Popup Dictionary, 
> ScrollAnywhere; fairly vanilla otherwise), on Manjaro, and I save probably 
> ~100 a time day (or more). I'm using between 5-15GB (including swap) of RAM 
> on FF which only has my wiki loaded. When I close it out, and reload, I'm 
> back down to minimal FF memory usage. Clearly, I am doing something wrong. 
> I spend so much time in Tiddlywiki (https://philosopher.life/) that I'm 
> willing to spend 15GB of memory if I need to. I'd rather not though. 
>
> I have it set to 10 Backups; my wiki is ~18MB in size.
>
> I can't reproduce it other than just through my daily usage (and that 
> isn't terribly consistent either). From a freshly opened browser, I can 
> spam save 20 times in a row, and my memory usage will balloon up for a 
> minutes, but eventually something cuts away at quite a bit of it (still 
> using 3GB of memory instead of 2GB on startup). However, over the course of 
> a day, it builds up and doesn't get culled away. Is it demonically 
> possessed? No, I am probably incompetent here. I woke up this morning with 
> almost max memory usage which was solved by just closing the FF for TW (I 
> use FF dev ed for browsing). I'd prefer to only close the browser when I've 
> got an excellent reason.
>
> I may just eventually move to the NPM version, but I've experienced other 
> kinds of problems with it. 
>
> I'm probably thinking about this all wrong-headed, and I would be grateful 
> for any insight you may have to quelling this problem.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 4:25:35 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:20:25 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Click the TW save button. ... there should be a message like this: 
>>>
>>> "saver-handler: Saving wiki with method save through saver tiddlyfox" 
>>> ... if either file-backups or savetiddlers extension is active. 
>>>
>>
>> savetiddlers also shows 3 more lines of info. 
>>
>> I did test this with FF-portable 61.0.1 - porableapps .com downloaded 
>> from duckduckgo 
>>
>> -m
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[h0p3]

I don't want to derail this thread at all, but I have a slightly related 
issue. I'm hoping you may be able to help me figure it out (obviously, you 
owe me nothing, and I appreciate your consideration to any degree). 

I believe I'm experiencing a memory leak which may be related to 
TiddlyBackup (the only extension that consistently works for me). I use 
FF61, Manjaro, and I save probably ~100 a time day (or more). I'm using 
between 5-15GB (including swap) of RAM on FF which only has my wiki loaded. 
When I close it out, and reload, I'm back down to minimal FF memory usage. 
Clearly, I am doing something wrong. I spend a good chunk of my time in 
Tiddlywiki (https://philosopher.life/) that I'm willing to spend 15GB of 
memory if I need to. I'd rather not though. 

I have it set to 10 Backups; my wiki is ~18MB in size.

I can't reproduce it other than just through my daily usage. From a freshly 
opened browser, I can spam save 20 times in a row, and my memory usage will 
balloon up for 15 minutes, but eventually something cuts away at quite a 
bit of it (still using 3GB of memory instead of 2GB on startup). However, 
over the course of a day, it builds up and doesn't get culled away. i woke 
up this morning with almost max memory usage which was solved by just 
closing the FF for TW (I use FF dev ed for browsing). I'd prefer to only 
close the browser when I've got an excellent reason.

I may just eventually move to the NPM version, but I've experienced other 
kinds of problems with it. 

I'm probably thinking about this all wrong-headed, and I would be grateful 
for any insight you may have to quelling this problem.




On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 4:25:35 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:20:25 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>>
>>
>> Click the TW save button. ... there should be a message like this: 
>>
>> "saver-handler: Saving wiki with method save through saver tiddlyfox" 
>> ... if either file-backups or savetiddlers extension is active. 
>>
>
> savetiddlers also shows 3 more lines of info. 
>
> I did test this with FF-portable 61.0.1 - porableapps .com downloaded from 
> duckduckgo 
>
> -m
>

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[tw5] Re: Show tag list only when grandchildren exist

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Something like this may result in the kind of spacing you want and 
pre-detect grandchildren. Perhaps you don't even want the top-level to show 
if there are no grand children? 

The <$list filter="[taglimit[1]]"> listwidget here is used to 
detect if there are grandchildren. It's limited to 1 instance, since you 
don't want to multiply grandchildren by grandchildren. 



\define tagtable(Tag)


<$link to="""$Tag$""">$Tag$


<$list filter="[tag[$Tag$]]" variable="Parent">
<$list filter="[taglimit[1]]">
  <$link to=<>><>
  
<$list filter="[tagsort[]]" variable="Child"> 
  <$link to=<>><>
  
<$list filter="[tagsort[]]" variable="GrandChild">
   <$link to=<>><> 

\end

<$macrocall $name="tagtable" Tag={{!!title}} />



Good luck!
-- Mark

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 8:20:00 AM UTC-7, Stuart Amor wrote:
>
> Its been awhile since I have used TW5 and its coming back to me slowly...  
> I have currently got down to the following code:
>
> \define tagtable(Tag)
> <$list filter="[tag[$Tag$]]" variable="Parent">
> <$list filter="[tagsort[]]" variable="Child"> 
> <$list filter="[tagsort[]]" variable="GrandChild">
> 
>   <$link to=<>><>
>   
>   <$link to=<>><>
>
><$link to=<>><>
>
>   
> 
> 
> \end
>
> <$macrocall $name="tagtable" Tag='X'/>
>
>
> I have two problems with this, firstly I am not sure how I can pass the 
> [all[current]tagging[]] via a macrocall - its not the end of the world if 
> I can't, but I have had this situation quite a bit so would nice to be able 
> to learn how it can be done if possible.
>
> I have a bit of a dilemma as this code returns:
>
>
>- X
>   - Y
>  - Z1
>   - X
>   - Y
>  - Z2
>   
>
> I would like X and Y to be able to group the Z values and only appear 
> once.  I can see how this problem occurs, but can figure out a way of 
> avoiding this problem without reintroducing the Parent's Children that 
> don't have GrandChildren into the report. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Show tag list only when grandchildren exist

['Stuart Amor' via TiddlyWiki]

Its been awhile since I have used TW5 and its coming back to me slowly...  
I have currently got down to the following code:

\define tagtable(Tag)
<$list filter="[tag[$Tag$]]" variable="Parent">
<$list filter="[tagsort[]]" variable="Child"> 
<$list filter="[tagsort[]]" variable="GrandChild">

  <$link to=<>><>
  
  <$link to=<>><>
   
   <$link to=<>><>
   
  


\end

<$macrocall $name="tagtable" Tag='X'/>


I have two problems with this, firstly I am not sure how I can pass the 
[all[current]tagging[]] via a macrocall - its not the end of the world if I 
can't, but I have had this situation quite a bit so would nice to be able 
to learn how it can be done if possible.

I have a bit of a dilemma as this code returns:


   - X
  - Y
 - Z1
  - X
  - Y
 - Z2
  

I would like X and Y to be able to group the Z values and only appear 
once.  I can see how this problem occurs, but can figure out a way of 
avoiding this problem without reintroducing the Parent's Children that 
don't have GrandChildren into the report. 

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[tw5] Re: Delete a field on a newly "cloned" tiddler

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I've tried an idea of my own and FrD's suggestion. The problem is, that 
once the tm-new-tiddler message is sent the current macro stops. So you 
can't do any clean-up back in the original macro. 

Here's the code I tried using FrD's approach. The last setfield never gets 
run, even though it's simple text:

\whitespace trim
<$button tooltip="Clone this 'template'" aria-label="Clone this 'template'" 
class=<> >{{$:/core/images/clone-button}}
<$vars tiddler-template-caption={{!!tiddler-template-caption}}>
<$action-deletefield $field="tiddler-template-caption"/>
<$action-setfield $field=template-source $value=<>/>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" $param=<>  >
<$action-setfield $field="tiddler-template-caption" 
 $value=<>/>
<$action-setfield $field="do-i-happen"  $value="Important stuff"/>

Enter code here...

The sendmessage pre-empts the rest of the code. I think you're stuck with 
using ActionCreateTiddler. But it shouldn't be that hard to cycle through 
all the fields and insert them into the new tiddler.

-- Mark



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>
> Frd
>
> Thanks, I have used the work around to indicate template tiddlers by 
> creating a matching tiddler templatename/template 
>
> In someways this may be better because the templatetiddler is now totaly 
> cloned.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Query 101 -- $:/state, $:/temp, $:/config, $:/whatever/what-123456789

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Anyone interested in the difference on "$:/temp" deletion between single 
file TW and the server version could be helped by this GitHub comment by 
PMario ... 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3375#issuecomment-410214455.

What came out for me in this whole discussion was NOT there is a problem. 
Rather that there are DIFFERENCES between the server version of TW and the 
single file that are not well documented. The issue is KNOWING them.

The fact Mark S. & TonyM were as much in a haze as me about this is a 
signal. If it was just me I'd think it was just my usual idiocy. But it 
isn't.

FrD actually pointed to a solution in the thread but I did not quite then 
understand it. PMario clarified the issue.

Anyway
Josiah.

@TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I been playing with this. Create Tiddler: $:/temp/mark-test ...
>
> ... on Single File TW in normal browser & in TiddlyDesktop PERSISTS 
> between sessions. 
>
> Under node & Bob exactly the same gets deleted inter-session.
>
> I made an issue on GitHub here: 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3375
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> There is no bug. "$:/temp" can be created and it is not deleted on save 
 as actually nothing stops that.

>>>
>>> I'm not sure what you're saying. My test of $:/temp... under tiddly 
>>> server seems to suggest that $:/temp files get deleted.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Making a browser plugin to allow saving to the file system.

[Jed Carty]

The single executable version of Bob is set up so that you just run the 
executable and it doesn't require setup to start using the wiki. there are 
plenty of other things that need to be improved with it but it has that 
part. It doesn't even require a port parameter to be set and can just find 
an open port to use. Because by default it open the browser for you you 
don't even have to worry about knowing what port it picks.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Making a browser plugin to allow saving to the file system.

[Arlen Beiler]

Containers is an interesting idea, certainly.

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:02:56 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
>> Hi Arlen.
>> That's TiddlyDesktop or any other node-based app the exists already. ...
>> -m
>
> IMO the trick is, to use what already exists on every operating system. So
> there should be no need to install additional stuff, except the browser.


Installing TiddlyDesktop is not really the option. All the node based tools
we have so far require configuration. This ability is second to
TiddlyDesktop, TiddlyServer, etc., but it is a scenario that quite a few
people find themselves in, especially when TiddlyDesktop doesn't allow the
plugins they want or they otherwise would prefer to stay in their normal
browser and TiddlyServer requires wikis to be in specific directories.

What I am talking about is a NodeJS script that only requires a port
parameter. The rest is handled by the script itself. The extension would
handle security and only forward those calls that come from the correct
sources. There would be a secured authentication scheme between the
extension and the script to make sure that only the extension can use the
script and nothing else. Encryption is not necessary since we would be on
the loopback. The script would handle the file IO.

So that's kind of my idea. Sure, it's definitely a stop-gap measure
compared to allowing file system access. But I think it's worth a shot.

My thoughts,
Arlen

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[tw5] Re: Making a browser plugin to allow saving to the file system.

[PMario]

Hi, 

There is an existing addOn, that lets you play with identities: 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/

-m

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[tw5] Re: Making a browser plugin to allow saving to the file system.

[PMario]

Hi, 
TLDR; 

We need to convince the browser developers, that the browser-option: "Save 
file in the following directory:  " should be set per tab and not 
global!

 Long version ---

Mozilla is developing something, that is called: Contextual Identities [1] 
for (3) years now. ... 

The idea is, that it should be possible to assign tabs to different 
user-identities. eg: Personal, Work, Banking, Shopping ... 

Those identities allow "separation of concerns" [2]. So it's possible to 
share or hide information, based on the identities. Internally Mozilla 
calls the identities "containers". There is an overview, what is and what 
is-NOT shared: see link [3]

Using contextual-identities is relatively straight forward. see [1] ... So 
it is "easy" to make a browser extension. 

*The only thing we would need is: *

We need to convince the developers, that the browser-option: "Save file in 
the following directory:  " should be set per identity / tab. 


I could open a new issue, but we would need to convince them, that it is of 
general interest for a big community and not just a which from 1 person. 

have fun!
mario

[1] 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/contextualIdentities
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_concerns
[3] 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Contextual_Identity_Project/Containers#What_is_.28and_isn.27t.29_separated_between_Containers

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[tw5] Re: Making a browser plugin to allow saving to the file system.

[PMario]

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 11:02:56 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Arlen. 
> That's TiddlyDesktop or any other node-based app the exists already. ... 
> -m 
>

IMO the trick is, to use what already exists on every operating system. So 
there should be no need to install additional stuff, except the browser. 

The "new" web-extensions API provide a way, to communicate with "native" 
apps. ... 

The problem is, that this mechanism is far away from "simple". .. The 
"communication" workflow is simple. But to make it "end-user" friendly, we 
would need an installer for every OS we want to support. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Delete a field on a newly "cloned" tiddler

[TonyM]

Frd

Thanks, I have used the work around to indicate template tiddlers by creating a 
matching tiddler templatename/template 

In someways this may be better because the templatetiddler is now totaly cloned.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Making a browser plugin to allow saving to the file system.

[PMario]

Hi Arlen. 

That's TiddlyDesktop or any other node-based app the exists already. ... 

-m 

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[PMario]

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:20:25 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
>
> Click the TW save button. ... there should be a message like this: 
>
> "saver-handler: Saving wiki with method save through saver tiddlyfox" ... 
> if either file-backups or savetiddlers extension is active. 
>

savetiddlers also shows 3 more lines of info. 

I did test this with FF-portable 61.0.1 - porableapps .com downloaded from 
duckduckgo 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[PMario]

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 1:49:04 AM UTC+2, Alfonso Arciniega wrote:
>
> This is kinda silly (for me). Tried File Backups at home and it doesn't 
> work properly either.
>
> Windows 10 64-bit, FF v60.0.1 64-bit
> Mac macOS v10.13.4, FF v60.0.1 64-bit
>
> I got the message attached and saves only to the downloads folder and no 
> backup. What am I doing wron
>


Hi, 
Can you run the following test:#

 - open the TW that shows this dialogue
 - F12 open developer window. 
 - Select the "console" tab

Click the TW save button. ... there should be a message like this: 

"saver-handler: Saving wiki with method save through saver tiddlyfox" ... 
if either file-backups or savetiddlers extension is active. 

There is no message, if the default browser save mechanism is active. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[PMario]

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 9:36:03 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 8:39:06 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> You don't have them both enabled at the same time, do you? That might 
>> create a conflict.
>>
>
> There should be a warning if you open a new TW file. Either file-backups 
> or savetiddlers should open a warning, that only 1 plugin can be active. ...
>
> I didn't check this mechanism lately. ... 
>

I did just test this combination: 

FF 61.0.1
win 10 64bit

Both "savetiddlers" and "file-backups" detect each other, if they are 
active at the same time. ... 

They *can *be installed at the same time, *but only 1* can be *active*. 

The "warning info" is shown if a TW-file is loaded. 

So there shouldn't be a conflict here. 

-m


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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[PMario]

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 1:49:04 AM UTC+2, Alfonso Arciniega wrote:
>
> This is kinda silly (for me). Tried File Backups at home and it doesn't 
> work properly either.
>
> Windows 10 64-bit, FF v60.0.1 64-bit
> Mac macOS v10.13.4, FF v60.0.1 64-bit
>
> I got the message attached and saves only to the downloads folder and no 
> backup. What am I doing wrong?
>

Did you enable the browser-option: "Always ask " ... If you want to save 
files?

-m

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[PMario]

On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 8:44:23 PM UTC+2, Alfonso Arciniega wrote:
>
> No, Only one extension enabled at a time.
> In addition, FF is the portable one. If the issue is not W7 64-bit, maybe 
> the portable FF may the issue.
>

Where did you get your FF from. ... Can you post a link, so I can test?

-m

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[PMario]

On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 8:39:06 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> You don't have them both enabled at the same time, do you? That might 
> create a conflict.
>

There should be a warning if you open a new TW file. Either file-backups or 
savetiddlers should open a warning, that only 1 plugin can be active. ...

I didn't check this mechanism lately. ... 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[PMario]

On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 8:25:23 PM UTC+2, Alfonso Arciniega wrote:
>
> I have been using both File Backups and Save Tiddlers extensions with the 
> same tiddlywikylocations folder as a default saving location.
>

You can't use them both at the same time!

-m

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[PMario]

On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 7:32:08 PM UTC+2, Alfonso Arciniega wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> It used to work fine with FF versions up to 59+, though improperly with 
> v60+.
> It doesn't save to the C:\downloads\tiddlywikilocations (this is the 
> folder set). It only saves to C:\downloads, and also it doesn't save 
> backups.
>

file-backups doesn't need "tiddlywikilocations". you can use any subfolder. 
... 

IMPORTANT: Only 1 TW-addON can be active at the same time. ... If you have 
both of them installed, it won't work. 

You can have a look at this video, how it should behave: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVLtID8nElU=youtu.be  The video is 
from an earlier version, but the mechanism didn't change since then. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[PMario]

On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 6:52:23 PM UTC+2, Alfonso Arciniega wrote:
>
> - "File Backups v.0.3.5" does not work properly with Firefox v60+
>

Can you describe your issue a bit closer?. .. I'm using it all the time and 
it never stopped working. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Firefox v61, can we just save over our current Wiki file without all the dialogs?

[PMario]

Hi, 

The file-backups addOn can be directly installed from here: 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/file-backups/

The only disadvantage is, that youre files have to be in the 
Downloads-folder or a sub-folder ... 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Delete a field on a newly "cloned" tiddler

[FrD]

Hi,

I've not written the code so it's not tested.

Perhaps the list of actions when you click the button could be :

- Remove the field from the template tiddler,
- clone the template tiddler
- add back the field to the template tiddler.

Regards

FrD

Le vendredi 3 août 2018 04:46:30 UTC+2, TonyM a écrit :
>
> Folks/Team,
>
> I am creating a tool to create tiddlers from template tiddlers and will 
> share today (if I resolve this).
>
> However to do so I am using the following to clone the tiddler to a new 
> tiddler name eg "task 1" and open for edit (which the user then modifies)
>
> \whitespace trim
> <$button message="tm-new-tiddler" param=<> tooltip="Clone 
> this 'template'" aria-label="Clone this 'template'" class=< toolbar-class>> >
> <$action-setfield $field=template-source $value=<>/>
> *<$action-deletefield $field=tiddler-template-caption/**>*
> {{$:/core/images/clone-button}}
> 
>
>
>- I identify which tiddlers are templates by the existence of the 
>field *tiddler-template-caption*
>- During the clone which works perfectly the tiddler-template-caption also 
>gets cloned
>- Unfortunately this means the new tiddlers now appear in the list of 
>tiddler templates
>- In the above code *<$action-deletefield 
>$field=tiddler-template-caption/*> deletes the field from the template 
>tiddler not the new one.
>- How can I delete this field from the new tiddler with the yet to be 
>determined name?
>
> I believe I need to use message="tm-new-tiddler" param=<> 
> rather than ActionCreateTiddlerWidget to clone the tiddler, where I would 
> use the $savetitle.
> I want the clone to work regardless of the fields and their content so I 
> do not want to explicitly create the fields, I just want them to come from 
> the template tiddler except for *tiddler-template-caption.*
>
> Note: <$action-setfield $field=template-source 
> $value=<>/> updates the template tiddler before the clone, 
> this saves the user doing it.
>
> How can I trigger *<$action-deletefield $field=tiddler-template-caption/**> 
> on the new tiddler after it is named/created without an additional 
> "trigger"*
>
> Thanks
> Tony
>

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