[tw5] Re: Lost Tiddly that I need back

[Birthe C]

We all feel hurt, just thinking about it. It seems a lot of us have been in 
this situation. Everybody mentions that we need more information. To me the 
original message sounds as if it is not only the latest tiddlers that is 
missed but the wiki that can not be found. If so that is quite another 
problem. It must be there somewhere, saved or not saved. (I have always 
found my wiki but on two occasions with a very small size g). That 
happened due to the browser closing unexpectedly.
Let's mention again that tidldyspot has very nice backup, easy to use. 
Dropbox keeps backup of the latest savings, but after the last changes I do 
not find it quite that easy to use.

After the browser changing (saving everything to the download folder it was 
easy to get at mess. empty.html, tiddlywiki.html with lots of numbers after 
them. GRRR. Using 32 bit computer I was not able to use timimi. (I do know 
of file-backups). Now with a new computer, timimi is a wonder, saving 
quickly and backups just right.

Naming your wiki file matching the content also helps finding it in you 
computer folders. Starting a new tiddlywiki I find 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hidden%20Setting%3A%20Filename%20for%20Save%20Wiki%20Button
 
a good help - if I find a good title for my wiki.

Enthusiasts really need to be creative with titles, and filenaming as the 
amount of Tiddlywikies grows rapidly.

@A Gloom mentioned maybe the most important *Time can be critical*.


Birthe



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[tw5] Re: What's the point of effort?

[A Gloom]

Devin

I wasn't and I'll follow it now, but looking at it I'm not sure what I 
> should do there. I'm new to the community and I have hardly any time, so if 
> someone wants to bring me on for something specific and give me tasks I'd 
> love to hear more, but as it stands I don't have the general knowledge or 
> the bandwidth to sort through that list of posts and figure out where I can 
> be helpful. 
>
>
Post a message there introducing yourself and ask for the info/places that 
info may be on how to get involved-- there's a proctol for the 
offficialdocumental

Here's somwthing to shed light on matters-- 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#HelpingTiddlyWiki

also start a simiiar post here -- you'll probably get more responses here-- 
don't be shy

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[tw5] Re: What's the point of effort?

[Devin Short]

I wasn't and I'll follow it now, but looking at it I'm not sure what I 
should do there. I'm new to the community and I have hardly any time, so if 
someone wants to bring me on for something specific and give me tasks I'd 
love to hear more, but as it stands I don't have the general knowledge or 
the bandwidth to sort through that list of posts and figure out where I can 
be helpful. 

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 8:13:52 PM UTC-7, A Gloom wrote:
>
> Devin
>
> Are you aware of the TiddlyWikiDocs 
>  
> Google Group? if you want to help with documentation-- best to do 
> coordinated with others versus on your own.
>
>>

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[tw5] Re: What's the point of effort?

[Devin Short]

I wasn't and I'll follow it now, but looking at it I'm not sure what I 
should do there. I'm new to the community and I have hardly any time, so if 
someone wants to bring me on for something specific and give me tasks I'd 
love to hear more, but as it stands I don't have the general knowledge or 
the bandwidth to sort through that list of posts and figure out where I can 
be helpful. 

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 8:13:52 PM UTC-7, A Gloom wrote:
>
> Devin
>
> Are you aware of the TiddlyWikiDocs 
>  
> Google Group? if you want to help with documentation-- best to do 
> coordinated with others versus on your own.
>
>>

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[tw5] Re: What's the point of effort?

[A Gloom]

>
> How many documentation improvement initiatives for TW have you seen? (I've 
> seen, maybe, 12)


I saw the last one but I didn't see anyone get involved-- would any further 
new initiatives suffer the same fate-- and why start another while ignoring 
previous efforts (quite the snub to those that devoted so much effort to 
those previous efforts)

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[tw5] Re: What's the point of effort?

[A Gloom]

Devin

Are you aware of the TiddlyWikiDocs 
 
Google Group? if you want to help with documentation-- best to do 
coordinated with others versus on your own.

>

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[tw5] Re: Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[Mohammad]

On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 12:47:02 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> Thanks for that. When you say template what are you referring to? I was 
> thinking ultimately to use the list widgets template attribute, 
>

Yes, list widgets template attribute! 


> however I think there is value passing both the filter and the template 
> name to a macro.
>
> I will work from what you have given me thanks.
>
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:39:45 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> I would recommend to use template for this!
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:53:26 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>> Actualy there is a need for a generic solution to handle tiddler titles 
>>> this way, even if css has a method so I am working on that.
>>>
>>> Something like a recursive process that lists the first n then passes 
>>> the rest to itself.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: A new look into: InMyScoks

[A Gloom]

tyvm TT : )

my guide doc wiki now permanently resides at Tiddlyspot

on my domain where it used to be, will be my experimental "TW with KAOS 
inside" -- the KAOS frames website _imported_ and converted to a TW

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[tw5] Re: Lost Tiddly that I need back

[A Gloom]

EParKer 1211

For the best help, we'll need to know which TW platform you were using 
(single-file, node, etc), any saver/backup plug-in you may had, which 
browser you may had used (and if it was in private mode), OS.

Time can be critical if you want to recover from browser cache or hard 
drive.  Don't clear browser history/files (if you're browser is set to do 
so on shutdown,, disable that setting (but the damage may already been done 
if so))

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[tw5] Re: Lost Tiddly that I need back

[TonyM]

Mat,

Tiddlywiki does have access to local storage / cookies even without the 
local storage plugin, which is designed to go further and store changed 
tiddlers. Perhaps an addon to tiddlywiki that stores the last few text 
fields a bit like utilities such as your Typio would support more 
resilience on this.

I built a note taker for in class some time ago and found the need to click 
done to ensure my changes were saved in the wiki, even if it was not saved 
to file very frustrating. I now use a method to edit the text field such 
that every character is saved and with autosave on, I am confident I will 
not loose a byte. This is especially important on mobile where it is so 
easy to accidentally select some text and erase it with a keystroke. By 
staying in the editor ctrl-z Undo and ctrl-x Redo is available should you 
accidently damage you notes, this is not available after a done and 
re-open. I also make use of a done/save and keep open button.

Regards
Tony


On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 1:04:13 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
> EP - a few comments:
>
> Did you get the yellowish confirmation note stating "Saved wiki"?
> As others here note; we need more info about your system.
> Are you perhaps using the newly introduced Browser based local storage 
>  plugin?... in which 
> case your data *is* automatically saved but only on that particular 
> machine used.
> Are you by any chance on FF - in which case this 
>  might be the 
> problem?
> In Chrome, Typio Form Recovery 
> 
>  
> has saved me a few times... but typically more to recover non-TW data.
>
> ...and this one is going to feel like an insult but it's not: Do you know 
> about the first rule of TW 
> ?
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Lost Tiddly that I need back

[Mat]

coda coder wrote:
>
>
> https://www.keycdn.com/support/what-is-cache-busting
>

Oh!? Will need to explore this closer (but too tired right now). Much 
appreciated.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Lost Tiddly that I need back

[TonyM]

EParKer 1211

I empathise with your situation, and personally I find such loss 
devastating as well. As stated we need more information to help. 

Reentering something you lost can be frustrating but I suggest while you 
look for it you go ahead and try writing it again, whilst it may not be the 
same, it may even be better. 
The fresher it is in your mind the better. Learning to live with such 
disappointment is difficult, I know.

Once this is all over return and ask for support strengthening your use of 
tiddly wiki to avoid this in future.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 12:41:10 AM UTC+10, EParKer 1211 wrote:
>
> I wrote a very detailed and very important short story and I saved all my 
> work using the red circle icon before closing down my web browser. Before I 
> realised where I could've written something better and went back to change 
> my notes when I couldn't find my work, ANYWHERE. I have looked in history, 
> Tiddly history, my downloads, backups, support groups, etc. But I can't 
> find my missing SAVED work! I spent a lot of time trying to perfect it and 
> I was finally happy enough to take a break and now I can't return to my 
> work at all. PLEASE find SOME WAY to bring back my lost work because all of 
> my files are not up to date enough to register a tiddly since last month.
>

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[tw5] Re: Lost Tiddly that I need back

[coda coder]

https://tiddlywiki.com?x=123

You can automate this via a batch file, using the system datetime (for 
example) instead of having to think up a new unique value.

https://www.keycdn.com/support/what-is-cache-busting



On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:41:04 PM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>
> coda coder wrote:
>>
>> Are you by any chance on FF - in which case this 
>>>  might be the 
>>> problem?
>>>
>>
>> Hey Mat - did you try path/my-wiki?x=something-unique
>>
>
> I don't even understand what you're talking about. Probably something with 
> TW on node.js, which I don't use... I typically put my TWs on Tiddlyspot 
> but I'd guess(!) the problem would be the same from a local (singlefile) 
> TW. Is your magic incantation still something for me? appreciated, 
> regardless.
>
> <:-)
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Arlen Good igea for Gzipping $:/core

[Arlen Beiler]

The NodeJS server version does indeed serve the index gzipped. My focus is
more on single-file wikis, however.

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:45 PM Matt DeMoss  wrote:

> I already see
> content-encoding:
> gzip
> on the initial response from my setup (2.6MB and 636KB transferred). It
> could be the nginx reverse proxy doing that, but gzip_proxied defaults to
> off so I think that's coming from tiddlywiki's listener. I don't see it on
> subsequent responses.
>
> There's probably more improvement to be had from adding headers for
> controlling cache behavior. (ETag)
>
> I found a project providing an nginx module for etags on dynamic content
> , but I haven't tried it
> yet.
>
>
> On Sunday, September 15, 2019 at 6:35:12 AM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Aren has given a great proposal at
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4262#issue-493686392
>>
>> to gzip the $:/core and minimize the size of core!
>>
>> I support his idea! If you agree discuss this or vote on GitHub
>>
>> --Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Lost Tiddly that I need back

[Mat]

coda coder wrote:
>
> Are you by any chance on FF - in which case this 
>>  might be the 
>> problem?
>>
>
> Hey Mat - did you try path/my-wiki?x=something-unique
>

I don't even understand what you're talking about. Probably something with 
TW on node.js, which I don't use... I typically put my TWs on Tiddlyspot 
but I'd guess(!) the problem would be the same from a local (singlefile) 
TW. Is your magic incantation still something for me? appreciated, 
regardless.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Feature Request: Datalist functionality for EditText Widget (auto-complete)

[Alan Aldrich]

Thanks Mat,
Topic moved here: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikidev/C2JWmchpyaw

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 3:50:37 PM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>
> Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Please correct me if this is not the correct venue to discuss core 
>> changes. 
>>
>
> I'd say this is for the dev group 
> 
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Leading "." (period) for line break @TonyM

[TonyM]

Mat,

The are three aspects to using the ".", 

one is during typing. Just start your sentence with a period and it becomes 
a paragraph. then similar to typing bullets "*" you can type a set of 
paragraphs and they will all behave like paragraphs and be followed by a 
blank line.

The second is after pasting text content from elsewhere. Being able to look 
through the text and add a period to transform a line into a paragraph.

The Third is give a larger body of text pasted into a tiddler, using a 
proposed EditorToolbar button, to select some or all lines and adding the 
leading period. Looking at the html P tag I discovered it handles nicely 
the following situations that occur with texts sourced elsewhere; This is 
after I have placed period at the beginning of each line
.A sentence with more than one line break following it collapses into a 
single paragraph break
.
.
.
.A short sentence
.a second short sentence without any additional line break above
.
.Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing and typesetting industry. 
Lorem Ipsum has been the industry's standard dummy text ever since the 
1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type and scrambled it to 
make a type specimen book. It has survived not only five centuries, but 
also the leap into electronic typesetting, remaining essentially unchanged. 
It was popularised in the 1960s with the release of Letraset sheets 
containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and more recently with desktop publishing 
software like Aldus PageMaker including versions of Lorem Ipsum 

So the P works well in this situation as well.

You can also see that the above is quite helpful now, if you want to 
improve the text, its easy to see extra line breaks and remove them, but no 
need to go inserting double enter/carriage returns to make the text look 
decent. If you do not get around to removing the periods no harm

A sentence with more than one line break following it collapses into a 
single paragraph break



A short sentence
a second short sentence without any additional line break above

Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing and typesetting 
industry. Lorem Ipsum has been the industry's standard dummy text ever 
since the 1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type and 
scrambled it to make a type specimen book. It has survived not only five 
centuries, but also the leap into electronic typesetting, remaining 
essentially unchanged. It was popularised in the 1960s with the release of 
Letraset sheets containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and more recently with 
desktop publishing software like Aldus PageMaker including versions of 
Lorem Ipsum
Paste the above in a tiddler to see the result if it was "rendered" as 
proposed.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 1:28:29 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
> In another thread, fellow TonyM wrote:
>
> I have tried to seek support to at least in my own wiki introduce a 
>> leading "." period to wikitext that does the same as ";" without the bold. 
>> Basically a leading period would wrap the line in 
>> .This is a line or paragraph
>>
>> Would render (not insert)
>> This is a line or paragraph
>>
>
> Where did you seek this support? I think this is a very neat idea! But 
> would you agree it should only be "line break" not actually what is seen 
> here (the result would display the same even if the 's were all in one 
> line next to each others):
>
> [image: Capture.PNG]
> i.e the desired effect is rather:
>
> foo
> bar
> baz
>
> ...right?
>
> Is this on github so I can give it a thumbs up?
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Lost Tiddly that I need back

[coda coder]

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:04:13 AM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>
>
> Are you by any chance on FF - in which case this 
>  might be the 
> problem?
>

Hey Mat - did you try path/my-wiki?x=something-unique


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[tw5] Re: Leading "." (period) for line break @TonyM

[Mat]

coda coder wrote:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikidev/cf0D9mbvi8g 
>

Thanks. 
...that turns out to be a frustratingly long thread which I guess indicates 
a lot of objections... :-/
<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Feature Request: Datalist functionality for EditText Widget (auto-complete)

[Mat]

Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Please correct me if this is not the correct venue to discuss core 
> changes. 
>

I'd say this is for the dev group 


<:-)

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[tw5] Feature Request: Datalist functionality for EditText Widget (auto-complete)

[Alan Aldrich]

Please correct me if this is not the correct venue to discuss core changes. 
I considered forking TW on Github and sending a pull request, but I wanted 
to share this idea first, as discussion may lead to further solutions. 

One frustration I have with the current implementation of auto-completion 
in a text box is the inability to select from choices with the arrow keys 
or select the first option with the enter key. It occurred to me recently 
that TiddlyWiki does not utilize the HTML5 element , but with 
very minimal code change it could. I propose we add a new optional 
parameter to the EditText Widget called "list". This simple modification 
will allow the user to associate a  of  for an 
auto-complete drop-down that responds to keystrokes. 

I have created a demonstration here: 
http://alans-sandbox.tiddlyspot.com/#:[[DataList Feature in Edit-Text 
Widget]][[Experimental Changes]]

More information about the datalist 
element: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/datalist

I have noted some limitations of this method in the demo. The search field 
in the demo has also been modified to support this method, but it is *not* 
a perfect solution. I am not proposing we replace the search mechanism at 
this time, but I hope this thread gets people thinking about it.

Please try out my example or drag the two modified system tiddler links 
into your own wiki to experiment. I look forward to hearing your thoughts,
Respectfully,
Alan

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[tw5] Re: Create a message of the day generator

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

Good idea with the data tiddler as well. 

So many ways in tiddlywiki.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:44:32 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Tony!
>  This solution you proposed is even better! I may then suggest to use a 
> simple data tiddler or JSON
> stores all messages with property names msg-1 msg-2 or simply 1, 2, 3,...
> wikitext allowed in property value in data tiddlers, so one can also style 
> the text.
>
> Thanks Tony for your great idea! Always you show new routes!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:49:21 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> And..
>>
>> \define msg-field() msg-<
>> \define msg-tiddler() tiddlername
>>
>> then in any location
>> <$transclued tiddler=<> field=<> />
>>
>> store the messages in fields msg-1 msg-2  In tiddler name. 
>>
>> In this way you could even have alternative tiddlers with another set of 
>> messages for the day. Even 12 for different for every day of the year.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: What's the point of effort?

[TonyM]

Devin,

That is a kind offer. I need to think If I will jump into this, given I 
need to seek more income. I will reply soon.

Tony

On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 12:52:49 AM UTC+10, Devin Short wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> I'm new but I'd be happy to support your effort in order to learn more 
> about tiddlywiki and to make some kind of mature documentation accessible. 
> I have a technical background, some (not expert) programming skills, and 
> I'm in a PhD program, so I'd be interested in working on defined tasks 
> rather than bogging you down with "input" and independent solutions.
>
> Devin
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Using stamp to get [[]] with cursor between the brackets like editor button "wrap selection ..." possible?

[TonyM]

Cd.K That would be greatly appreciated

Though the ":" rule uses   and  tags and I think the best for a 
"." rule would be wrap each "Paragraph"

.Line or paragraph

at render in 
Line or paragraph

The class will allow subsequent css to be applied only to these "." 
paragraphs.

Tony



On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:42:59 PM UTC+10, Cd.K wrote:
>
> TonyM
>
> Very interesting.
>
> I've added my* "npp:"* and* "xpp:"* wiki text parsing rules. For this 
> application I would have to find the *":"* rule, copy it and convert it 
> to the *"."* rule. 
>
> There would also be the alternative to make a  *"two spaces"* rule 
> instead of . 
>
>
> Once I have time and have updated from 5.19 to 5.20, I will address this 
> issue. 
>
>
> Regards
> Cd.K
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:59:18 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Cd.K
>>
>> If you step back for a second and consider that it appears you want to 
>> place the link to a tiddler inside the square brackets on its own line 
>> there are actually other approaches.
>>
>> For example at present if you use ";" as the first character on the line 
>> then it will be bolded and an effective  will be there although it is 
>> not in the text
>> ;[[tiddlername]]
>>
>> Or if you want it indented ":"
>> :[[tiddlername]]
>>
>> In the above there will be an effective  at the end of the lines, 
>> but the text remains clearer. So the above are immediate work arounds for 
>> you.
>>
>> *However, After a long and trying experience with WIkitext the following 
>> is I believe a good solution **"proposed".*
>>
>> I have tried to seek support to at least in my own wiki introduce a 
>> leading "." period to wikitext that does the same as ";" without the bold. 
>> Basically a leading period would wrap the line in 
>> .This is a line or paragraph
>>
>> Would render (not insert)
>> This is a line or paragraph 
>>
>> I would then add an editor toolbar button to prefix lines with "." in 
>> bulk. Which I have tested and it works well because it collapses multiple 
>> blank lines into one blank line between paragraphs/lines. But placing a 
>> single "." on lines I want to automatically break, or become multi-line 
>> paragraphs is trivial and still quite neat. Then you need only place ".[[" 
>> in your prefix and "]]" in your suffix if at all.
>>
>> *Problem is I do not know how to add the wiki text parsing rule.*
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 11:13:51 PM UTC+10, Cd.K wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

Thanks for that. When you say template what are you referring to? I was 
thinking ultimately to use the list widgets template attribute, 

however I think there is value passing both the filter and the template 
name to a macro.

I will work from what you have given me thanks.

Tony

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:39:45 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> I would recommend to use template for this!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:53:26 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad
>>
>> Actualy there is a need for a generic solution to handle tiddler titles 
>> this way, even if css has a method so I am working on that.
>>
>> Something like a recursive process that lists the first n then passes the 
>> rest to itself.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How to set tag colors for ListReveal ?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Honestly, I never understood, why in $:/core/macros/tag the tagpill colours 
are defined as hardcoded element styles. I think CSS would make it much 
more hackable.

And I also never understood, how the core's contrastcolour macro, that is 
involved there, works or should work and if it really does what it should 
under all circumstances. E.g. it might be the rgba(...) part is missing 
here:

// If neither colour is readable, return a crude inverse of the 
target
return [255 - rgbTarget[0],255 - rgbTarget[1],255 - 
rgbTarget[2],rgbTarget[3]];


But I am happy to see that you found a workaround as well as that 
listreveal at least works with several of the palettes included in TW 
5.1.21.

Thanks for trying listreveal anyway :)


Am Mittwoch, 18. September 2019 21:20:00 UTC+2 schrieb Mark S.:
>
> *listreveal *seems to want to get the tag color from 
>
> sidebar-tab-foreground-selected
>
> in the vanilla palette. But that color isn't defined in the vanilla 
> palette, that I can tell. There's an empty space where it should be.
>
> what gets generated instead, when I inspect the tag element, is 
>
> color: 244,244,244,1
>
> This creates an error (warning icon) in the element inspector.
>
> I'm guessing that TW was trying to make a default of rgba(244,244,244,1) 
> but somehow leaves off the "rgba" part.
>
> The same thing happens with the background color. So both have 
> 244,244,244,1 which doesn't do anything. The little
> bit of white and gray color must be coming from somewhere else in the 
> cascade.
>
> So I can fix it for my purposes by tweaking the vanilla theme:
>
> sidebar-tab-foreground-selected: green
>
> And probably a similar thing for the background.
>
> It might be worth noting though, that these palette entries aren't always 
> defined.
>
> Thanks!
>

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[tw5] Re: Arlen Good igea for Gzipping $:/core

[Matt DeMoss]

I already see 
content-encoding: 
gzip
on the initial response from my setup (2.6MB and 636KB transferred). It 
could be the nginx reverse proxy doing that, but gzip_proxied defaults to 
off so I think that's coming from tiddlywiki's listener. I don't see it on 
subsequent responses.

There's probably more improvement to be had from adding headers for 
controlling cache behavior. (ETag)

I found a project providing an nginx module for etags on dynamic content 
, but I haven't tried it 
yet.


On Sunday, September 15, 2019 at 6:35:12 AM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Aren has given a great proposal at
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4262#issue-493686392
>
> to gzip the $:/core and minimize the size of core!
>
> I support his idea! If you agree discuss this or vote on GitHub
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Leading "." (period) for line break @TonyM

[coda coder]

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:28:29 AM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>
> In another thread, fellow TonyM wrote:
>
> I have tried to seek support to at least in my own wiki introduce a 
>> leading "." period to wikitext that does the same as ";" without the bold. 
>> Basically a leading period would wrap the line in 
>> .This is a line or paragraph
>>
>> Would render (not insert)
>> This is a line or paragraph
>>
>
> Where did you seek this support?
>
>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikidev/cf0D9mbvi8g 

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[tw5] Re: A new look into: InMyScoks

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Good stuff!

 how do I get a Toolmap link updated?


Its maintained by David Gifford.

Contact details in: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-uH3JhUTKwg/7vkRA8vOBQAJ

Best wishes
TT

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 7:59:07 AM UTC+2, A Gloom wrote:
>
> One thing we lack is a "short-list" of documentation and information wikis.
>>
>> There are several. And probably some I don't know about.
>>
>
> This the best I've seen, catches those not submitted and listed in the 
> official Resources list
>
> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM#z=phEGw1BHmd1zHkLPfHoBi1gG 
> 
>
> TWScripts refers to it, saving it from rehashing what Toolmap already 
> collected.
>
> I made it on the list, a pleasant surprose-- but its an old link-- how do 
> I get a Toolmap link updated?
>
> WikiWitchery's Searching high n low refers to Toolmap as well so not to 
> rehash in addition to an in-wiki references search/and limited display of:
>
> Searching high n low <.< >.>
> - 
> - Searches from wiki 
> - Ref wikis search in sidebar
> - 
> - TWcom search tiddler 
> TWcom static page table of contents/search/viewer 
> - Widget Browser static pages search & display
> - Wikitext markup, keyboard shortcuts, Widget name/code search 
>
> - TB5 search tiddler 
> - TW Toolmap search at TWScripts 
> - TWScripts search tiddler 
>
> -- to be added-- indexes of ref TW's content
>
> - TW5 Google Group search tiddler 
> TWDocs Google Group search tiddler 
> Google Groups Search Operators 
>
> - Google search tiddler 
> - Google Search Operators 
> - Google definitions search & display
> - Wikipedia page searcha search & display
>
> Screenshot of it was shown in the bad documentation thread
>

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[tw5] Re: How to set tag colors for ListReveal ?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

*listreveal *seems to want to get the tag color from 

sidebar-tab-foreground-selected

in the vanilla palette. But that color isn't defined in the vanilla 
palette, that I can tell. There's an empty space where it should be.

what gets generated instead, when I inspect the tag element, is 

color: 244,244,244,1

This creates an error (warning icon) in the element inspector.

I'm guessing that TW was trying to make a default of rgba(244,244,244,1) 
but somehow leaves off the "rgba" part.

The same thing happens with the background color. So both have 
244,244,244,1 which doesn't do anything. The little
bit of white and gray color must be coming from somewhere else in the 
cascade.

So I can fix it for my purposes by tweaking the vanilla theme:

sidebar-tab-foreground-selected: green

And probably a similar thing for the background.

It might be worth noting though, that these palette entries aren't always 
defined.

Thanks!



On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 9:14:31 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:

>
> I would like to import a large language dictionary into TW. I was thinking 
> that for the interface
> I might use listreveal, since it looks more professional than anything I 
> would come up with:
>
> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Flistreveal
>
> The problem is that the tags for individual revealed items are almost 
> invisible. (white lettering on gray background).
>
> I tried tracking down where the styles were coming from, but it seemed to 
> be part of the standard theme. On the listreveal
> page, a completely different theme is being used. But I would rather stick 
> with the standard theme for this project.
>
> How can I set the CSS and/or styles to make the tags visible?
>
> Thanks!
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

[Alan Aldrich]

Ah, I see what you are asking Tony and yes this is possible too. Let me 
walk you through it. 

   1. Copy an existing body template or create a new one. For this example 
   we will start from scratch.
  1. Create a new tiddler 
  called $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/alt-title (it can be 
titled 
  anything you want)
  2. Tag this tiddler with:
 1.  $:/tags/table/BodyTemplate
 2. alt-title
  3. use the following for the text field:
 1. 
 <$view tiddler=<> field="title"/>
 
 2. you can change this to whatever fits your needs but the 
 important part is it is rendering the "title" of the "currentRecord"
  4. Add "alt-title" to your table's columns (tbl-columns)
  5. Now you should have a table with both "title" and "alt-title" as 
  columns, where "title" is formatted as a link and "alt-title" is plain 
text.
   2. Now, let's say you don't want the header to say "alt-title" you want 
   it to just say "title".
   3. Let's also assume you want the header to remain sortable. In that 
   case we will clone $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/header/default
  1. Clone this template and lets give it the name: 
  $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/header/alt-title (again, any name 
will 
  do)
  2. Add the tag "alt-title"
   4. The default (sortable) header is one of the more complex templates. 
   To change the displayed header title you will need to replace 
   <>
   with 
   title
   in three places:
  1. Line 4
  2. Line 17
  3. Line 29
   5. Now you should have two columns in your table with the same header 
   text, "title", both with different formats. You can then remove the 
   original title column, leaving your table with its own unique formatting of 
   the title column.

I hope this helps,
Alan



On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 3:07:01 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> I saw what you say here 
>
> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
>> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
>> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
>> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
>> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.
>
>
> But what If I only want to change the template for title in one table, not 
> all ?
>
> Are you open to some turbo charge improvement ideas? Or waiting to 
> stabilize the current solution?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Tony
>  
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 1:49:01 PM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>
>> Tony, 
>> I am putting together some info that may clarify some of your questions 
>> and will post that next, but I want to speak to a couple of your bullet 
>> points:
>>
>>
>>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>>
>> I have not played much with the contains operator, but I am also 
>> pleasantly surprised to see that you can put virtually anything in as its 
>> parameter and it will search for it. not only will it do < and > but you 
>> can search on just about any symbol except square brackets. This of course 
>> has nothing to do with my plugin, but with the contains operator. The 
>> filter you mention here is searching all tiddlers "text" fields for 
>> <> which is a fairly safe way to determine if the tiddler is a table 
>> or not.
>>
>>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for 
>>a specific table?
>>
>> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
>> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
>> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
>> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
>> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.
>>
>>
>>I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar 
>> but you need to set the tiddler
>>eg
>><$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
>><>
>>
>>
>> Let me explain what is happening here. A TiddlyTable gets its parameters 
>> from the fields that are created when the table is created. Essentially, a 
>> table requires its own tiddler to store these fields. We can call them 
>> "table tiddlers". Notice when you click the table button a new tiddler is 
>> created and it contains the default table. If you edit this tiddler you 
>> will see its text is just <> and it has 29 fields that serve as its 
>> parameters. When you set TiddlerA's text to use the tiddler widget like you 
>> show here, what you are really asking is for TiddlyTables to store these 29 
>> parameters to a Tiddler called "Has Changed" but render in TiddlerA. The 
>> same effect can be achieved using transclusion, and in the case of using 
>> "$:/tags/SideBar" 
>> the table MUST be transcluded or it will not find the parameters its 

Re: [tw5] Re: Arlen Good igea for Gzipping $:/core

[Arlen Beiler]

I don't think Gzip would have a hangup with it, in fact, I'm pretty sure it
would save on compression time. But I don't know that for sure. A lot of
websites don't use compression, however, so I think it would still be a big
bonus.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:38 PM Lost Admin  wrote:

> I had to read through the comments on github a couple of times to
> understand the proposal.
>
> I'm against it being a part of the default TiddlyWiki (empty.html) because
> it won't benefit serving TiddlyWiki from a properly configured web server
> (which should gzip the file before transmitting it). But, I do see your
> point about it saving (a surprising amount of space) for other methods of
> deliver (like the email use-case described in the github thread).
>
> I do think it is an interesting idea.
>
> On Sunday, September 15, 2019 at 6:35:12 AM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Aren has given a great proposal at
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4262#issue-493686392
>>
>> to gzip the $:/core and minimize the size of core!
>>
>> I support his idea! If you agree discuss this or vote on GitHub
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Tip of the day, Message of the day, Tiddler of the day

[Mohammad]

Inspired by the idea by Melvin and discussed by TonyM and Mat at

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/66Qpgtbv_-w/M1SE-GI0AgAJ


This is a simple solution to generate message of the day using the simple 
dataTiddler

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#Message%20of%20the%20Day%20Generator


This can be extended simply to *tip of the day* or *tiddler of the day*!

Once the simple random number generated by *Matthew Lauber* is used it is 
possible to have a much better tip of the day generator.


--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Create a message of the day generator

[Mohammad]

Added to TW-Scripts

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#Alternate%20Message%20of%20the%20Day%20Generator

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:21:15 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> \define tid() x$(item)$
>
>
> <$set name="dd" value=<> >
> <$list filter="[tag[message]removeprefix[message ]match]" variable=
> item>
> <$transclude tiddler=<> mode=block/>
> 
> 
>
> --assumption
>
>- message tiddler have title like message xx where xx is 1 2. ... 31
>- message tiddler have been tagged with message (this can be any other 
>criteria)
>
> When you open the the wiki or tiddler with daily message it will show 
> message based on that day! For Sep 18 the `message 18` will be shown.
>

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[tw5] Re: How to set tag colors for ListReveal ?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

That didn't seem to work. ToDoNow doesn't have this problem. It shows a 
black text instead of a white text on top
of a gray tag background. I wonder if I just used the older listreveal from 
todonow if it would work better?

Thanks!

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 10:57:48 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Mark, 
>
> It seems, that I implemented a muted tag design as a feature. Below you 
> find the muted class defined in 
> <>
>
> I do not remember where this style could be changed in the complicated 
> system of tag construction in TW (and I am on the phone). 
>
> But you could try to remove the word muted in your own copy of 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/listreveal/tags
>
> Good luck! 
> Thomas 
>
>
> \define lrBtnTags(class:"")
> 
> <$wikify name="tiddler" text=<>>
><$macrocall $name="lrBtnAddTags" tiddler=<> 
> class="""$class$"""/>
><$macrocall $name="lrTagsPopup" tiddler=<>/>
> 
> 
> \end
>
> \define listreveal-tags(exclude:"")
> <$vars exclude="""$exclude$""">
> 
> <>
> 
> <$list 
> filter="[all[current]tags[]sort[title]]" storyview="pop" 
> template="$:/plugins/telmiger/listreveal/templates/tag"/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> \end
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.22 artwork

[Sylvain Comte]

@Mat thanks for feedback

I totally agree with your opinion about limited readability of second 2. I
made some adjustments on the coin by vectorizing, but it missed the point.
Unfortunately there is no 2 euros or 2 pounds banknote. But I may create
them as Fenimore Buttercup did for the 3 dollars one (
http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/3_dollar_bill :-)

Can't win each time, neh ;-) ?

For creators and other contenders, did you know that 22 is a Brazilian
number? Thinking to the present rainforest issues might be inspiring...

Cheers

Sylvain
@sycom

Le mer. 18 sept. 2019 à 17:12, Mat  a écrit :

> Sycom - you've come up with something that I failed to do; A concept that
> ties the version with the times of the outside world events. I like this
> and it should be... ehm "fun"... to look back at old banners and recall the
> era.
>
> We'll see what Jeremy says but I suspect that particularly that last digit
> is a bit hard to read tho.
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Leading "." (period) for line break @TonyM

[Mat]

In another thread, fellow TonyM wrote:

I have tried to seek support to at least in my own wiki introduce a leading 
> "." period to wikitext that does the same as ";" without the bold. 
> Basically a leading period would wrap the line in 
> .This is a line or paragraph
>
> Would render (not insert)
> This is a line or paragraph
>

Where did you seek this support? I think this is a very neat idea! But 
would you agree it should only be "line break" not actually what is seen 
here (the result would display the same even if the 's were all in one 
line next to each others):

[image: Capture.PNG]
i.e the desired effect is rather:

foo
bar
baz

...right?

Is this on github so I can give it a thumbs up?

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.22 artwork

[Mat]

Sycom - you've come up with something that I failed to do; A concept that 
ties the version with the times of the outside world events. I like this 
and it should be... ehm "fun"... to look back at old banners and recall the 
era.

We'll see what Jeremy says but I suspect that particularly that last digit 
is a bit hard to read tho.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Lost Tiddly that I need back

[Mat]

EP - a few comments:

Did you get the yellowish confirmation note stating "Saved wiki"?
As others here note; we need more info about your system.
Are you perhaps using the newly introduced Browser based local storage 
 plugin?... in which case 
your data *is* automatically saved but only on that particular machine used.
Are you by any chance on FF - in which case this 
 might be the problem?
In Chrome, Typio Form Recovery 

 
has saved me a few times... but typically more to recover non-TW data.

...and this one is going to feel like an insult but it's not: Do you know 
about the first rule of TW 
?

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: What's the point of effort?

[Devin Short]

Tony,

I'm new but I'd be happy to support your effort in order to learn more about 
tiddlywiki and to make some kind of mature documentation accessible. I have a 
technical background, some (not expert) programming skills, and I'm in a PhD 
program, so I'd be interested in working on defined tasks rather than bogging 
you down with "input" and independent solutions.

Devin

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[tw5] Re: Lost Tiddly that I need back

[Sycom]

Hello,

I have no answer for you, but I'm pretty sure that anyone who may have will 
need more context to help :
* what is your wiki version?
* we guess your wiki is standalone (single file) can you confirm?
* which save method do you use?
And anything else specific to your usage (plugins? OS? ...)

Let us know. I wish you the best.

Cheers,

Sylvain
@sycom

Le mercredi 18 septembre 2019 16:41:10 UTC+2, EParKer 1211 a écrit :
>
> I wrote a very detailed and very important short story and I saved all my 
> work using the red circle icon before closing down my web browser. Before I 
> realised where I could've written something better and went back to change 
> my notes when I couldn't find my work, ANYWHERE. I have looked in history, 
> Tiddly history, my downloads, backups, support groups, etc. But I can't 
> find my missing SAVED work! I spent a lot of time trying to perfect it and 
> I was finally happy enough to take a break and now I can't return to my 
> work at all. PLEASE find SOME WAY to bring back my lost work because all of 
> my files are not up to date enough to register a tiddly since last month.
>

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[tw5] Re: What's the point of effort?

[Devin Short]

I'm new but I'd be really happy to support your (Tony's) effort in order to 
learn more about tiddlywiki and to make some kind of mature documentation 
accessible. I have a technical background, some (not expert) programming 
skills, and I'm in a PhD program, so I'd be interested in working on defined 
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[tw5] Re: Lost Tiddly that I need back

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

How are you saving? file-backup Plugin? Node.js? Bob? 

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 7:41:10 AM UTC-7, EParKer 1211 wrote:
>
> I wrote a very detailed and very important short story and I saved all my 
> work using the red circle icon before closing down my web browser. Before I 
> realised where I could've written something better and went back to change 
> my notes when I couldn't find my work, ANYWHERE. I have looked in history, 
> Tiddly history, my downloads, backups, support groups, etc. But I can't 
> find my missing SAVED work! I spent a lot of time trying to perfect it and 
> I was finally happy enough to take a break and now I can't return to my 
> work at all. PLEASE find SOME WAY to bring back my lost work because all of 
> my files are not up to date enough to register a tiddly since last month.
>

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[tw5] Lost Tiddly that I need back

[EParKer 1211]

I wrote a very detailed and very important short story and I saved all my 
work using the red circle icon before closing down my web browser. Before I 
realised where I could've written something better and went back to change 
my notes when I couldn't find my work, ANYWHERE. I have looked in history, 
Tiddly history, my downloads, backups, support groups, etc. But I can't 
find my missing SAVED work! I spent a lot of time trying to perfect it and 
I was finally happy enough to take a break and now I can't return to my 
work at all. PLEASE find SOME WAY to bring back my lost work because all of 
my files are not up to date enough to register a tiddly since last month.

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[tw5] Re: Using stamp to get [[]] with cursor between the brackets like editor button "wrap selection ..." possible?

['Cd.K' via TiddlyWiki]

TonyM

Very interesting.

I've added my* "npp:"* and* "xpp:"* wiki text parsing rules. For this 
application I would have to find the *":"* rule, copy it and convert it to 
the *"."* rule. 

Once I have time and have updated from 5.19 to 5.20, I will address this 
issue. 


Regards
Cd.K


On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:59:18 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Cd.K
>
> If you step back for a second and consider that it appears you want to 
> place the link to a tiddler inside the square brackets on its own line 
> there are actually other approaches.
>
> For example at present if you use ";" as the first character on the line 
> then it will be bolded and an effective  will be there although it is 
> not in the text
> ;[[tiddlername]]
>
> Or if you want it indented ":"
> :[[tiddlername]]
>
> In the above there will be an effective  at the end of the lines, but 
> the text remains clearer. So the above are immediate work arounds for you.
>
> *However, After a long and trying experience with WIkitext the following 
> is I believe a good solution **"proposed".*
>
> I have tried to seek support to at least in my own wiki introduce a 
> leading "." period to wikitext that does the same as ";" without the bold. 
> Basically a leading period would wrap the line in 
> .This is a line or paragraph
>
> Would render (not insert)
> This is a line or paragraph 
>
> I would then add an editor toolbar button to prefix lines with "." in 
> bulk. Which I have tested and it works well because it collapses multiple 
> blank lines into one blank line between paragraphs/lines. But placing a 
> single "." on lines I want to automatically break, or become multi-line 
> paragraphs is trivial and still quite neat. Then you need only place ".[[" 
> in your prefix and "]]" in your suffix if at all.
>
> *Problem is I do not know how to add the wiki text parsing rule.*
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 11:13:51 PM UTC+10, Cd.K wrote:
>>
>>  
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Using stamp to get [[]] with cursor between the brackets like editor button "wrap selection ..." possible?

['Cd.K' via TiddlyWiki]

BurningTreeC 

I had read it in the Using Stamp Tiddler 
, but unfortunately didn't recognize 
the application potential of prefix and/or suffix. I can't use it yet, 
because I'm using version 5.19. 

But I will implement your tip in the near future.  

Thanks a lot  
Cd.K

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 6:09:48 PM UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote:

> It's possible if you create a stamp Tiddler and two additional Tiddler 
> titled the same but with /prefix and /suffix as the ending of the titles. 
> Then put [[ in the prefix Tiddler and ]] in the suffix tiddler

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Re: [tw5] Wrong tag

[Aidan Grey]

In edit mode, click on the little x in the trash

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 8:53 AM Аквариус Филиал, 
wrote:

> Good afternoon.
> Tell me please how to remove or edit incorrectly entered tag (specified
> 'interEnet' should be of course 'internet')?
>
> Thanks for your help.
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[tw5] Re: Bob - Anti-conflict, Data NOT Lost

[Jed Carty]

I suspect that differences with how inbound vs outbound connections are 
made may be responsible. I have run into similar things with other projects 
where there are seemingly random restrictions on which direction 
connections can be made in.

In my experience NAT, particularly in corporate networks, is always a huge 
pain. It may be the browser inside the NAT isn't allowed to make the 
connection to outside the network by itself, but when the external server 
tries to update it has a connection in both directions and can punch a hole 
in the NAT.

I am not sure that actually works, but it is my suspicion.

I should see about adding a feature to the server that if it doesn't hear 
an incoming web socket connection from a connection that has made a GET 
request after a second or two it will try to initiate the web socket 
connection on the server side.

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[tw5] Re: Create a message of the day generator

[Mohammad]

Tony!
 This solution you proposed is even better! I may then suggest to use a 
simple data tiddler or JSON
stores all messages with property names msg-1 msg-2 or simply 1, 2, 3,...
wikitext allowed in property value in data tiddlers, so one can also style 
the text.

Thanks Tony for your great idea! Always you show new routes!

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:49:21 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> And..
>
> \define msg-field() msg-<
> \define msg-tiddler() tiddlername
>
> then in any location
> <$transclued tiddler=<> field=<> />
>
> store the messages in fields msg-1 msg-2  In tiddler name. 
>
> In this way you could even have alternative tiddlers with another set of 
> messages for the day. Even 12 for different for every day of the year.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[Mohammad]

I would recommend to use template for this!

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:53:26 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad
>
> Actualy there is a need for a generic solution to handle tiddler titles 
> this way, even if css has a method so I am working on that.
>
> Something like a recursive process that lists the first n then passes the 
> rest to itself.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[Mohammad]

[image: tony-card-columns.png]


On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 5:02:20 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> This work for me
>
> 
> <$list filter="[tag]">
> 
>   {{!!title}}
>   
> {{!!modifer}}
> {{!!text}}
>   
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> There was a typo in the first $list widget check the filter.
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:53:26 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad
>>
>> Actualy there is a need for a generic solution to handle tiddler titles 
>> this way, even if css has a method so I am working on that.
>>
>> Something like a recursive process that lists the first n then passes the 
>> rest to itself.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[Mohammad]

This work for me


<$list filter="[tag]">

  {{!!title}}
  
{{!!modifer}}
{{!!text}}
  





There was a typo in the first $list widget check the filter.

--Mohammad


On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:53:26 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad
>
> Actualy there is a need for a generic solution to handle tiddler titles 
> this way, even if css has a method so I am working on that.
>
> Something like a recursive process that lists the first n then passes the 
> rest to itself.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[Mohammad]

Hi Tony!
 Have a look at https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.3/components/card
I think card-columns is better class for what you want!

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:53:26 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad
>
> Actualy there is a need for a generic solution to handle tiddler titles 
> this way, even if css has a method so I am working on that.
>
> Something like a recursive process that lists the first n then passes the 
> rest to itself.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[TonyM]

Mohammad

Actualy there is a need for a generic solution to handle tiddler titles this 
way, even if css has a method so I am working on that.

Something like a recursive process that lists the first n then passes the rest 
to itself.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Create a message of the day generator

[TonyM]

And..

\define msg-field() msg-<
\define msg-tiddler() tiddlername

then in any location
<$transclued tiddler=<> field=<> />

store the messages in fields msg-1 msg-2  In tiddler name. 

In this way you could even have alternative tiddlers with another set of 
messages for the day. Even 12 for different for every day of the year.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: Create a message of the day generator

[TonyM]

Mohammad

Yet another approach.

Love it
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[Mohammad]

Hi Tony!
 Lets see! I will back to you.

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:20:05 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I assume https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/ is to the new release so I have 
> being looking at that.
>
> For example this works to produce a Card for items tagging the current 
> tiddler
> 
> <$list filter="[tag">
> 
>   {{!!title}}
>   
> {{!!modifer}}
> {{!!description}}
>   
> 
> 
> 
>
> However they only ever get placed on the one line. I wonder if there is a 
> way to start a new line of cards every Nth?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 2:24:19 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 5:56:43 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Mohammad,
>>>
>>> I went to Shiraz to understand how to make use of it. At present I see 
>>> really nice results but they come from "weighty" tiddlers with a lot of 
>>> code within them.
>>>
>>> Personally I would be more inclined to use a macrocall widget wrapped 
>>> inside a list to source say header and text from tiddlers. The trick is 
>>> then finding a way to set a number of columns but infinite rows.
>>>
>>> One use case I have is I have a set of tiddlers, with a link field and 
>>> icon. I would love to display a N column set of card-column-border which 
>>> would get the icon, color caption (header) and description to populate the 
>>> card.
>>>
>>
>> Tony!
>> Cards are customized Bootstrap card! What you want is possible! First 
>> without using the Shiraz generate the result you like, then to make them 
>> stylish use the custom classes (e.g cards)
>> I am still working on Shiraz 2 documentation and will try add examples 
>> similar to what you asked here! By the way please have a loot at new 
>> release.
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> In fact this is the main way I want to use Shiraz cards etc... driven by 
>>> a filtered list of tiddlers and displaying selected fields.
>>>
>>> Where is your work on those alternate list CSS options?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 12:42:19 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:

 *News: Shiraz Plugin 2.0*

 A new release of Shiraz plugin will be published soon!
 It is a rewrite of Shiraz 1.0.2 and mainly focuses on a custom CSS 
 (based on bootstrap 4+)

 It contains many custom CSS + Macros to use them and gives huge 
 flexibility for customizing of  many TW elements! This includes


- Images (polaroid, slidein, overlay, card, ...)
- Tables
- Buttons
- Badges
- Alerts
- Cards and panels
- Text utilities


 I appreciate to have your idea and comments!

 The GitHub page has the previous version! All other CSS and macros have 
 been stripped out from Shiraz 2.0.


 --Mohammad

  


 On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 10:56:00 PM UTC+3:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> *Announcement a new plugin *
> *(8th Nov, 2018)*
>
> *Shiraz plugin   * 
>
> To download have a look at:
>  
> Code: https://github.com/kookma/Shiraz
> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/
>
> Shiraz
>
> Shiraz is a small TW5 plugin contains several macros, stylesheets, 
> templates, snippets and acts as a starter kit. Some of its features are 
> given below
>
>- Macro
>   - abbreviation (abbr) and details macro
>   - alert boxes (bootstrap alert classes)
>   - classic notes (danger, warning, info)
>   - gradient (for dividing section in text)
>   - footnote (creates footnotes)
>   - tc, bc (text with foreground and background colors)
>   - documentation macro to show code, rendered result, and 
>   underlying html code)
>- Reveal gradually ( walkthrough , guided help, linked list)
>   - Steps
>   - Wizard
>- Customized css
>   - notes
>   - float class for images
>   - Resolved floating images (overflow and cross tiddler borders)
>   - Customized control buttons (shown as mouse hover)
>- ToDo
>   - A todo list (ToDos) is set of macro and template to create 
>   tasks, list them and manipulate them!
>- Customized table classes
>   - Colored header
>   - Striped row table
>   - Striped column table
>   - Borderless table
>   - Hoverable table
>- Others
>   - Show fields in view mode (From Ton Gerner)
>   - Notebook tiddler
>   - Standout markup
>   - Sticky footer
>   - Utility macros (.lorem, vspace, hspace,...)
>
>
> -
> This is also in response to recent post on having kind of starter kit 
> for newbies.
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
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[tw5] Bob - Anti-conflict, Data NOT Lost

[Kevin Kleinfelter]

I'm seeing weird behavior with Bob on a corporate network.  I don't think 
Bob is at fault. I'd sure appreciate any suggestions based on knowledge of 
how Bob works.


   - From my laptop on the corporate network (which uses a proxy server and 
   the proxy is aggressive about preventing access to 'dangerous' sites), I 
   add a tiddler named 'deleteme'.
   - From my server, I see 'deleteme' get created in the data directory in 
   less than a second.  (Hooray!)
   - On the company laptop, 'deleteme' does not show up in the 'Recent' 
   list of Tiddlers.  If I do a page refresh, it appears that data has been 
   lost.
   - I wait 5 minutes.  Still 'deleteme' is not listed.  Page refresh does 
   not reveal 'deleteme'.
   - From another laptop, which is not on the company network, I do a Bob 
   'reconnect'.
   - Instantly, 'deleteme' spontaneously appears on  the company laptop.

This happens only for the first tiddler of the day.  After that, new 
tiddlers show up immediately after they are added.  I can close the browser 
and restart the browser and I still have immediate tiddler availability.

I suspect the corporate proxy is involved because I don't observe this 
behavior from laptops outside the WAN.  The puzzler is "How does connecting 
from a browser *outside* the WAN clear up the session of a browser *inside* 
the WAN?"  

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[tw5] Re: Create a message of the day generator

[Mohammad]

\define tid() x$(item)$


<$set name="dd" value=<> >
<$list filter="[tag[message]removeprefix[message ]match]" variable=item>
<$transclude tiddler=<> mode=block/>



--assumption

   - message tiddler have title like message xx where xx is 1 2. ... 31
   - message tiddler have been tagged with message (this can be any other 
   criteria)

When you open the the wiki or tiddler with daily message it will show 
message based on that day! For Sep 18 the `message 18` will be shown.

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[tw5] LEAKED: TW static pages browser tiddler

[A Gloom]

In this post 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en=#!topic/tiddlywiki/aBgiWEURN74
 
2 "constructs" were leaked from the mad coding lab...

A mostly functional version of tiddler that browses/displays//searches 
official tW documentation static pages...

and an experimental URL encoding utility tiddler to url encode typed or 
pasted text for copying 6 pasting to somewhere else like those encoding 
webpages do.

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki with Ipfs

[Mohammad]

This is amazing!
I am reading but ipfs seems to be the future of internet!

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:48:07 AM UTC+4:30, Xavier Maysonnave 
wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
>
> I would like to let you know the availability of TiddlyWiki with Ipf 
> s. 
> This plugin let you store on Ipfs your wikis and their attachments. 
> Attachments could be embedded of stored externally on Ipfs. 
>
> As you may know TiddlyWiki offers a feature who let you encrypt your 
> wikis. 
> The TiddlyWiki with Ipfs gives you an opportunity to encrypt your 
> attachments.
>
> The plugin is based on ipfs-provider 
>  who offers several ways 
> to connect to Ipfs.
> - WebExtension
>
> Not tested yet
>
> - Ipfs Companion
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/ipfs-companion/?src=search
>
>
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ipfs-companion/nibjojkomfdiaoajekhjakgkdhaomnch
>  
>
> - Ipfs Http client
>
> The default is to use https://ipfs.infura.io:5001 as your default Ipfs 
> Api Url. 
> However It is a slow server and I recommend to either use Ipfs Desktop 
>  or run a local Ipfs 
> server to enjoy a better experience.
>
> The tool support :
> - ipfs
> - ipns
>
> The demo page, https://tiddly.bluelightav.eth.link/ 
>  is also reachable @ 
> https://tiddly.bluelightav.eth as we are using ENS Manager 
>  to manage our DNS.
>
> In case you want to experiment the https://tiddly.bluelightav.eth, users 
> need a web3 compatible client such Metamask:
>
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/metamask/nkbihfbeogaeaoehlefnkodbefgpgknn
> https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/ether-metamask/
>
> Thanks
>

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Re: [tw5] %2520 with URL encoding

[A Gloom]

Hello Jeremy,

The URLs are double encoded. The first encoding is so that we can map every 
> tiddler title to a valid URL, and the second is done by the browser.
>

TY for the quick reply

The searching I did said it was that (double encoding of %20) but made it 
sound like it was an error, but here it's intentional I take it.

It's done with these if i'm understanding correctly
tv-filter-export-link, 
tv-wikilink-template, 
tv-get-export-link 


but they can't be used in a browser it says, only for export.

What I'm attempting to do is double encode a selection that is to be used 
in a macro to generate a  link for TW static pages-- see the Table 
of Contents select menu in the TWcom static page viewer attachment.

A similiar item i'm grappling with is writing a uri encoding to a temp 
file-- I got the view macro to single encode and display, but can't get it 
write the encoded result -- still shifting through documentation-- there's 
so many widgets and code i'm still not familiar with.  See attached URL 
encode/decode utility.

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URL encode_decode utility.tid
Description: Binary data


TWcom static page viewer.tid
Description: Binary data

[tw5] Re: Create a message of the day generator

[TonyM]

Melvin,

Hood on you for taking the JavaScript challenge. I am sure it will help you and 
our community.

Of course you can see I mat and others always like a coding challenge and we 
can't help ourselves.

Tony

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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a message of the day generator

[Melvin]

Wow, that's beautiful :)


Op wo 18 sep. 2019 om 11:48 schreef TonyM :

> Post script
>
> Mat you method looks close to a "case" structure.
>
> Love it
> Tony
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[tw5] Re: Create a message of the day generator

[TonyM]

Post script

Mat you method looks close to a "case" structure.

Love it
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Create a message of the day generator

[TonyM]

Nice Mat

I love it when one persons idea is made even more elegant by another.

It is also a great source of code methods and patterns which are easier to 
learn than reverse engineering.

Thanks
Tony

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[tw5] TiddlyWiki with Ipfs

[TonyM]

Xavier

I am very interested in this and related technologies as the add substantial 
possibilities to what can be done to a large internet audience with tiddlywiki.

I hope we will be able to document and support its use be a broad audience 
including tiddlywiki user base with a diverse set of skill levels.

Some solutions already available are limited by the technical requirements of 
the platforms they use.

Ipfs sounds like a great technology but it is hard for me to determine what are 
its best use cases and related factors that would motivate adoption especially 
when these technologies are unknown. When does it become valid to learn and 
adopt a new technology.

Thanks so much for your contribution to the community.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki with Ipfs

[Mat]

Xavier - I have yet to try it out but it is very much appreciated that you 
share this!!! 
IMO, IPFS also share overlapping visions and ideology with TW, so that 
makes it particularly interesting.
<:-)

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Re: [tw5] %2520 with URL encoding

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Gloom


> How do I get TW to URL encode spaces with %2520 (instead of %20)?  %2520 is 
> what Github encodes blank spaces in the official TW static pages' URL's.

The URLs are double encoded. The first encoding is so that we can map every 
tiddler title to a valid URL, and the second is done by the browser.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] widdly fork - a minimal self-hosted TW5 server

[Victor Dorneanu]

Hi,

this is really good work. I've also forked from opennota/widdly 
 and added DynamoDB support (in order 
to run Tiddlywiki in an AWS environment). You can see more at vdorneanu/widdly. 



Currently I'm working on a serverless version of widdly that should only 
use AWS Lambda and AWS DynamoDB as a storage. What bothers me most at the 
moment is authentication/authorization. I want to have my wiki in read-only 
mode  but whenever I want to add/change sth I should be able to login 
somewhere. Perhaps I'll have a look at your fork and checkout how you have 
implemented it. 

Thanks for sharing.

KR,
Victor 

On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 6:12:34 AM UTC+2, cs8425 wrote:
>
> Update release v1.2.2,
> no more annoying 403 popup of '$:/StoryList' before login.
> And here are some must to be known: 
> https://github.com/cs8425/widdly#important-to-know
> 
> This fork provide a minimal self-hosted TiddlyWiki5 server written in Go,
> original form opennota/widdly ,  and 
> bring proof of concept flat-file & sqlite backends support from 
> xarnze/widdly  with much improvements.
>
> *features:*
>
>- support *bolt/bbolt*, *flat-file* and *sqlite* backends
>- *multi-arch/platform pre-compile executable *[1]
>- multi-user *login & edit* (currently edit same wiki)
>- support *TLS* and *http/2* !!
>- modify plugins *without manually update* base TW5 html file, all can 
>be done in browser.
>
> [1] sqlite backend only linux amd64 version support, if need other 
> platform please compile your self. (cross-compile needs cgo support)
>
> *Github link: *https://github.com/cs8425/widdly/tree/master
> *Download v1.2.2: *https://github.com/cs8425/widdly/releases/tag/v1.2.2
>
> PS. Any bugs/questions welcome to create issue.
> PS. PRs are also welcome.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

[TonyM]

Alan,

I saw what you say here 

You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.


But what If I only want to change the template for title in one table, not 
all ?

Are you open to some turbo charge improvement ideas? Or waiting to 
stabilize the current solution?

Thanks in advance
Tony
 

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 1:49:01 PM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Tony, 
> I am putting together some info that may clarify some of your questions 
> and will post that next, but I want to speak to a couple of your bullet 
> points:
>
>
>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>
> I have not played much with the contains operator, but I am also 
> pleasantly surprised to see that you can put virtually anything in as its 
> parameter and it will search for it. not only will it do < and > but you 
> can search on just about any symbol except square brackets. This of course 
> has nothing to do with my plugin, but with the contains operator. The 
> filter you mention here is searching all tiddlers "text" fields for 
> <> which is a fairly safe way to determine if the tiddler is a table 
> or not.
>
>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for 
>a specific table?
>
> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.
>
>
>I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar 
> but you need to set the tiddler
>eg
><$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
><>
>
>
> Let me explain what is happening here. A TiddlyTable gets its parameters 
> from the fields that are created when the table is created. Essentially, a 
> table requires its own tiddler to store these fields. We can call them 
> "table tiddlers". Notice when you click the table button a new tiddler is 
> created and it contains the default table. If you edit this tiddler you 
> will see its text is just <> and it has 29 fields that serve as its 
> parameters. When you set TiddlerA's text to use the tiddler widget like you 
> show here, what you are really asking is for TiddlyTables to store these 29 
> parameters to a Tiddler called "Has Changed" but render in TiddlerA. The 
> same effect can be achieved using transclusion, and in the case of using 
> "$:/tags/SideBar" 
> the table MUST be transcluded or it will not find the parameters its 
> looking for. This is a limitation of the "non-standard" implementation of 
> macros I am using, and I mention it in Known Issues/Limitations. My next 
> post will have a link in it that describes this further.
>
> These are great questions, keep them coming!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:44:19 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> For fun whilst learning more on TiddlyTables
>>
>>
>>- SImply put it is a new way of looking at any filter
>>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>>- Are tables totally self contained? Looks like it, The advantage is 
>>TiddlyTables plus a bunch of tables to access various system information 
>>would be very helpful
>>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column for 
>>a specific table?
>>
>> I note you can place any table in the sidebar with $:/tags/SideBar but 
>> you need to set the tiddler
>> eg
>> <$tiddler tiddler="Has Changed">
>> <>
>> 
>>
>> I will keep exploring this.
>>
>> I would like to see a one button create table from filter.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 3:53:36 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan,
>>>
>>> Thanks, I am just exploring the possibilities of tiddlytables. Since the 
>>> minimum one needs is a filter it is a great way to simply list tiddlers of 
>>> any type. But then a custom table with custom fields can expose other 
>>> details.
>>>
>>>
>>> I also appreciate the drop down on the *Query Records* (tbl-filter) - 
>>> filter syntax
>>> Quite a few people have being asking for help for writing filters and 
>>> you have already done it.
>>>
>>> It would be great in an editor toolbar button as well.
>>>
>>> A simple example is
>>> [all[shadows]prefix[$:/info]!prefix[$:/info/browser]] [[$:/info/browser/
>>> name]]
>>>
>>> and show the text field.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:58:04 PM UTC+10, Alan Aldrich 

[tw5] Re: Announcement a new plugin: Shiraz (a starter kit for Tiddlywiki)

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

I assume https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/ is to the new release so I have 
being looking at that.

For example this works to produce a Card for items tagging the current 
tiddler

<$list filter="[tag">

  {{!!title}}
  
{{!!modifer}}
{{!!description}}
  




However they only ever get placed on the one line. I wonder if there is a 
way to start a new line of cards every Nth?

Regards
Tony


On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 2:24:19 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 5:56:43 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad,
>>
>> I went to Shiraz to understand how to make use of it. At present I see 
>> really nice results but they come from "weighty" tiddlers with a lot of 
>> code within them.
>>
>> Personally I would be more inclined to use a macrocall widget wrapped 
>> inside a list to source say header and text from tiddlers. The trick is 
>> then finding a way to set a number of columns but infinite rows.
>>
>> One use case I have is I have a set of tiddlers, with a link field and 
>> icon. I would love to display a N column set of card-column-border which 
>> would get the icon, color caption (header) and description to populate the 
>> card.
>>
>
> Tony!
> Cards are customized Bootstrap card! What you want is possible! First 
> without using the Shiraz generate the result you like, then to make them 
> stylish use the custom classes (e.g cards)
> I am still working on Shiraz 2 documentation and will try add examples 
> similar to what you asked here! By the way please have a loot at new 
> release.
>  
>
>>
>> In fact this is the main way I want to use Shiraz cards etc... driven by 
>> a filtered list of tiddlers and displaying selected fields.
>>
>> Where is your work on those alternate list CSS options?
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 12:42:19 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> *News: Shiraz Plugin 2.0*
>>>
>>> A new release of Shiraz plugin will be published soon!
>>> It is a rewrite of Shiraz 1.0.2 and mainly focuses on a custom CSS 
>>> (based on bootstrap 4+)
>>>
>>> It contains many custom CSS + Macros to use them and gives huge 
>>> flexibility for customizing of  many TW elements! This includes
>>>
>>>
>>>- Images (polaroid, slidein, overlay, card, ...)
>>>- Tables
>>>- Buttons
>>>- Badges
>>>- Alerts
>>>- Cards and panels
>>>- Text utilities
>>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate to have your idea and comments!
>>>
>>> The GitHub page has the previous version! All other CSS and macros have 
>>> been stripped out from Shiraz 2.0.
>>>
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 10:56:00 PM UTC+3:30, Mohammad wrote:

 *Announcement a new plugin *
 *(8th Nov, 2018)*

 *Shiraz plugin   * 

 To download have a look at:
  
 Code: https://github.com/kookma/Shiraz
 Demo: https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/

 Shiraz

 Shiraz is a small TW5 plugin contains several macros, stylesheets, 
 templates, snippets and acts as a starter kit. Some of its features are 
 given below

- Macro
   - abbreviation (abbr) and details macro
   - alert boxes (bootstrap alert classes)
   - classic notes (danger, warning, info)
   - gradient (for dividing section in text)
   - footnote (creates footnotes)
   - tc, bc (text with foreground and background colors)
   - documentation macro to show code, rendered result, and 
   underlying html code)
- Reveal gradually ( walkthrough , guided help, linked list)
   - Steps
   - Wizard
- Customized css
   - notes
   - float class for images
   - Resolved floating images (overflow and cross tiddler borders)
   - Customized control buttons (shown as mouse hover)
- ToDo
   - A todo list (ToDos) is set of macro and template to create 
   tasks, list them and manipulate them!
- Customized table classes
   - Colored header
   - Striped row table
   - Striped column table
   - Borderless table
   - Hoverable table
- Others
   - Show fields in view mode (From Ton Gerner)
   - Notebook tiddler
   - Standout markup
   - Sticky footer
   - Utility macros (.lorem, vspace, hspace,...)


 -
 This is also in response to recent post on having kind of starter kit 
 for newbies.


 Cheers
 Mohammad



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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Alan
Many thanks for your complete explanations.

Best wishes
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Create a message of the day generator

[Mat]

I made this, only to see that Tony is on the same path - i.e simply use the 
SetWidget *select* parameter. And AFAICT no need for a wikify outside.

<$set
name="messages" 
select=<>
filter="
[[Message 1]] 
[[Message 2]]
[[Message 3]]
[[Message 4]]
...">
<>


<:-)

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[tw5] Re: DataTiddlers. Delete properties depending its value

[Luis Gonzalez]

I couldn't imagine that you can put an action widget inside a list widget. 
I thought that a list widget is only for show a list of tiddlers.

Thanks!!. 

My goal is to be as good with tiddlywiki as you.


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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

[Alan Aldrich]

Mohammed,
Absolutely! I will assume you wish to use the class element for styling 
purposes and so I will focus on that. There are many options for styling a 
table. After you create a new table, click the Edit button and display the 
tables options, navigate to the first option under "Style" called "Template 
(Stylesheet)". this page displays a dropdown with choices that correspond 
to the stylesheets included in the plugin. The dropdown's value is stored 
in the field "tbl-class" and you can manually edit this field with any 
value you wish. an empty value will result in the table inheriting 
TiddlyWiki's table styling. The easiest way to create a new stylesheet is 
to clone $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/style/standard and give it a new class 
name (tbl-class-name). You will then see your new stylesheet as an option 
on the dropdown. 

Keep this in mind. the class attribute defined in tbl-class is an attribute 
on a div element that acts as a container for the table element. This can 
be seen in: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/macro.

Another option is to override parts of the selected stylesheet. In the Edit 
menu navigate to "Override (Inline Styles)". Here you can enter css 
properties for the table element or the div container that will take 
priority over the stylesheet. 

Lastly, there are two more options Under "Style" in the Edit menu. "Column 
Groups" and "Advanced Styles". 

   - Column groups are useful for applying css properties to individual 
   columns. Here is some more info on 
   that: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/colgroup
   - Advanced Styles documents a method for applying a style to an 
   individual row in a table.

Thank you for your questions and feedback Mohammad. I hope this helps,
Alan


On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:16:05 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thanks Arlen! TiddlyTables is a great contribution!
>
> One question: Is it possible to simply add classes or override the default 
> classes for Tables?
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 8:22:35 AM UTC+4:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>> Thank you for your feedback. I couldn't agree more that the documentation 
>> for TiddlyTables needs improvement. I will try my best to do so in future 
>> releases. I have tried to integrate some of the documentation into the Edit 
>> menu. Advanced Styles, Advanced Features, More Columns and Getting Started 
>> all contain helpful information, but more is on the way. In the meantime, I 
>> started writing down a few paragraphs to cover a couple of the more 
>> advanced topics. I highly recommend reading through it and walking through 
>> the example I give. It can be found here: 
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/#Digging%20deeper%20into%20TiddlyTables
>>
>> Another resource is the task manager example plugin (shown in the 
>> sidebar) which illustrates most of TiddlyTable's use cases. It consists of 
>> three separate tables, one nested inside the other:
>>
>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/realm-table
>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/project-table
>> $:/plugins/aaldrich/task-manager/task-table
>>
>> To enable the Edit menu for these tables, change the value of the field 
>> "tbl-show-edit" to "true" for each. This will enable the "Edit" button, 
>> making it easier to see how these tables were built and how they work 
>> together.
>>
>> Let me know if this information was helpful and/or if there are any other 
>> topics I should focus on in lieu of formal documentation. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 10:49:01 PM UTC-5, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Tony, 
>>> I am putting together some info that may clarify some of your questions 
>>> and will post that next, but I want to speak to a couple of your bullet 
>>> points:
>>>
>>>
>>>- A Table of tables filter `[contains:text[<>]]` I did not 
>>>expect that to work give the special meaning of < and >
>>>
>>> I have not played much with the contains operator, but I am also 
>>> pleasantly surprised to see that you can put virtually anything in as its 
>>> parameter and it will search for it. not only will it do < and > but you 
>>> can search on just about any symbol except square brackets. This of course 
>>> has nothing to do with my plugin, but with the contains operator. The 
>>> filter you mention here is searching all tiddlers "text" fields for 
>>> <> which is a fairly safe way to determine if the tiddler is a table 
>>> or not.
>>>
>>>- I am not sure if I can change the template for the title column 
>>>for a specific table?
>>>
>>> You absolutely can and this is what makes TiddlyTables so powerful. 
>>> Basically, the elements of the table are all modular and are controlled by 
>>> templates. I will go into detail about editing templates in my next post, 
>>> but the template that controls the body of the title column 
>>> is: $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title.
>>>
>>>
>>>I note you can place any 

[tw5] TiddlyWiki with Ipfs

[Xavier Maysonnave]

Dear friends,

I would like to let you know the availability of TiddlyWiki with Ipf 
s. 
This plugin let you store on Ipfs your wikis and their attachments. 
Attachments could be embedded of stored externally on Ipfs. 

As you may know TiddlyWiki offers a feature who let you encrypt your wikis. 
The TiddlyWiki with Ipfs gives you an opportunity to encrypt your 
attachments.

The plugin is based on ipfs-provider 
 who offers several ways to 
connect to Ipfs.
- WebExtension

Not tested yet

- Ipfs Companion

https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/ipfs-companion/?src=search

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ipfs-companion/nibjojkomfdiaoajekhjakgkdhaomnch
 

- Ipfs Http client

The default is to use https://ipfs.infura.io:5001 as your default Ipfs Api 
Url. 
However It is a slow server and I recommend to either use Ipfs Desktop 
 or run a local Ipfs server 
to enjoy a better experience.

The tool support :
- ipfs
- ipns

The demo page, https://tiddly.bluelightav.eth.link/ 
 is also reachable @ 
https://tiddly.bluelightav.eth as we are using ENS Manager 
 to manage our DNS.

In case you want to experiment the https://tiddly.bluelightav.eth, users 
need a web3 compatible client such Metamask:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/metamask/nkbihfbeogaeaoehlefnkodbefgpgknn
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/ether-metamask/

Thanks

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[tw5] %2520 with URL encoding

[A Gloom]

How do I get TW to URL encode spaces with %2520 (instead of %20)?  %2520 is 
what Github encodes blank spaces in the official TW static pages' URL's.

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