date:20200419

Peter,

Maybe this explanation can help 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/CRwut2UpJzU/4KzReQCECQAJ

Esc works for me, using linux. Maybe Mac is different?

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Birthe, I tried the ESC route, but it does not work.

About the tiddler you say "you can add that in the control panel": from what I 
understand the tiddler is supposed to show up in the keyboard shortcuts list in 
the CP automatically. But the tiddler just with the $:/config/ShortcutInfo/ tag 
it does not show up in the list. What am I missing?

20 Apr 2020, 06:51 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com:

> Peter,
>
> i do see your tiddler My-shortcut, tag > $:/config/ShortcutInfo/ and a field 
> tmap.id nothing else.
> As for the shortcut you wanted, remember that Mac, Windows and Linux do not 
> always agree. You can add that in control panel - Keyboard Shortcuts if you 
> know the differences.
>
> You wanted to create a shortcut to close a tiddler so you don't have to click 
> on its X.
> You do not need a new shortcut for that just press Esc.
>
>
> Birthe
>
>
>
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[tw5] A bit of advertising for TW

FWIW, here is a comment I wrote about TW: 
https://forum.zettelkasten.de/discussion/comment/5542/#Comment_5542


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[tw5] Re: Macro with variable number of arguments

Thanks Tony!
I make some modification on these normally!

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:09 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I was thinking of you when writing this, perhaps adding your Shiraz colour 
> options. Feel free to pillage :)
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 2:07:36 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Great solution Tony!
>> Added to TW-Scripts.
>>
>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:28:53 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Updated
>>>
>>> New Macro name and a button one as well
>>>
>>> \define kbd(string delim:" " sep:"+")
>>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]"><>> >>
>>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <<
>>> currentTiddler>>
>>> \end
>>> \define dummy-button(string delim:" " sep:" ")
>>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]"><$button 
>>> tooltip="demonstration 
>>> button only"><>
>>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <$button tooltip
>>> ="demonstration button only"><>
>>> \end
>>>
>>> <> <>
>>>
>>>
>>> <> 
>>> <" >>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>>
>>>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <" >>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:41:12 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:

 Max,

 Personally I have a different approach to this; and it is more general 
 in use. Paste this onto Tiddlywiki.com

- If you are only making use of space delimiters anyway, do it 
yourself in a single parameter
- This below defaults to space delimiter and + separator as you wish
- By using comma you can do the same for multiple words
- By using "/" you can make a system tiddler easier to read


 \define keys(string delim:" " sep:"+")
 <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]"><>>> >>
 <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <<
 currentTiddler>>
 \end

 <>
 <>
 <" >>
 <>
 <>

 Need any more features?

 Regards
 Tony

 On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:05:31 AM UTC+10, MaxGyver wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I often use the *kbd* tag for showing (keyboard) keys in my 
> TiddlyWiki, like that:
>
> Ctrl+Shift+A
>
> Typing this a lot is no fun, so I made a macro:
>
> \define key(text: "Shift") $text$
>
> It can be used this way:
>
> <>
>
> Now I could call this macro two or three times for creating a key 
> combination. But it's even easier with additional macros:
>
> \define combo2(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "x") $key1$<
> /kbd>+$key2$
>
> \define combo3(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "Shift", key3: "x") $key1$<
> /kbd>+$key2$+$key3$
>
> So I can write:
>
> <>
>
> which generates the key combination of my example at top.
>
> Just for curiosity:
> Is is possible to create a single macro that works for either one, two 
> or three keys? 
>
> Best regards,
> Max
>


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[tw5] Re: Macro with variable number of arguments

Mohammad,

I was thinking of you when writing this, perhaps adding your Shiraz colour 
options. Feel free to pillage :)

Regards
Tony

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 2:07:36 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Great solution Tony!
> Added to TW-Scripts.
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:28:53 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Updated
>>
>> New Macro name and a button one as well
>>
>> \define kbd(string delim:" " sep:"+")
>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]"><> >>
>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <<
>> currentTiddler>>
>> \end
>> \define dummy-button(string delim:" " sep:" ")
>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]"><$button 
>> tooltip="demonstration 
>> button only"><>
>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <$button 
>> tooltip="demonstration 
>> button only"><>
>> \end
>>
>> <> <>
>>
>>
>> <> 
>> <" >>
>> <>
>> <>
>>
>>
>> <>
>> <>
>> <" >>
>> <>
>> <>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:41:12 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Max,
>>>
>>> Personally I have a different approach to this; and it is more general 
>>> in use. Paste this onto Tiddlywiki.com
>>>
>>>- If you are only making use of space delimiters anyway, do it 
>>>yourself in a single parameter
>>>- This below defaults to space delimiter and + separator as you wish
>>>- By using comma you can do the same for multiple words
>>>- By using "/" you can make a system tiddler easier to read
>>>
>>>
>>> \define keys(string delim:" " sep:"+")
>>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]"><>> >>
>>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <<
>>> currentTiddler>>
>>> \end
>>>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <" >>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> Need any more features?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:05:31 AM UTC+10, MaxGyver wrote:

 Hi all,

 I often use the *kbd* tag for showing (keyboard) keys in my 
 TiddlyWiki, like that:

 Ctrl+Shift+A

 Typing this a lot is no fun, so I made a macro:

 \define key(text: "Shift") $text$

 It can be used this way:

 <>

 Now I could call this macro two or three times for creating a key 
 combination. But it's even easier with additional macros:

 \define combo2(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "x") $key1$+$key2$>>> kbd>

 \define combo3(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "Shift", key3: "x") $key1$<
 /kbd>+$key2$+$key3$

 So I can write:

 <>

 which generates the key combination of my example at top.

 Just for curiosity:
 Is is possible to create a single macro that works for either one, two 
 or three keys? 

 Best regards,
 Max

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Macro with variable number of arguments

Great solution Tony!
Added to TW-Scripts.

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:28:53 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Updated
>
> New Macro name and a button one as well
>
> \define kbd(string delim:" " sep:"+")
> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]">< >>
> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <<
> currentTiddler>>
> \end
> \define dummy-button(string delim:" " sep:" ")
> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]"><$button 
> tooltip="demonstration 
> button only"><>
> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <$button 
> tooltip="demonstration 
> button only"><>
> \end
>
> <> <>
>
>
> <> 
> <" >>
> <>
> <>
>
>
> <>
> <>
> <" >>
> <>
> <>
>
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:41:12 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Max,
>>
>> Personally I have a different approach to this; and it is more general in 
>> use. Paste this onto Tiddlywiki.com
>>
>>- If you are only making use of space delimiters anyway, do it 
>>yourself in a single parameter
>>- This below defaults to space delimiter and + separator as you wish
>>- By using comma you can do the same for multiple words
>>- By using "/" you can make a system tiddler easier to read
>>
>>
>> \define keys(string delim:" " sep:"+")
>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]"><> >>
>> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <<
>> currentTiddler>>
>> \end
>>
>> <>
>> <>
>> <" >>
>> <>
>> <>
>>
>> Need any more features?
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:05:31 AM UTC+10, MaxGyver wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I often use the *kbd* tag for showing (keyboard) keys in my TiddlyWiki, 
>>> like that:
>>>
>>> Ctrl+Shift+A
>>>
>>> Typing this a lot is no fun, so I made a macro:
>>>
>>> \define key(text: "Shift") $text$
>>>
>>> It can be used this way:
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> Now I could call this macro two or three times for creating a key 
>>> combination. But it's even easier with additional macros:
>>>
>>> \define combo2(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "x") $key1$+$key2$>> kbd>
>>>
>>> \define combo3(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "Shift", key3: "x") $key1$<
>>> /kbd>+$key2$+$key3$
>>>
>>> So I can write:
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> which generates the key combination of my example at top.
>>>
>>> Just for curiosity:
>>> Is is possible to create a single macro that works for either one, two 
>>> or three keys? 
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Max
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Peter,

i do see your tiddler My-shortcut, tag $:/config/ShortcutInfo/ and a field 
tmap.id nothing else.
As for the shortcut you wanted, remember that Mac, Windows and Linux do not 
always agree. You can add that in control panel - Keyboard Shortcuts if you 
know the differences.

You wanted to create a shortcut to close a tiddler so you don't have to 
click on its X.
You do not need a new shortcut for that just press Esc.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

All,

I just thought I would let you know I too am looking forward to being able 
to use libraries for publishing.

However I am working on something I would be happy to collaborate on that 
relates to this;

   - Work Flow and tools for iterative rapid solution development
   - Continuous improvement and development process that moves with me to 
   the wiki I am currently designing
   - Import a solution and use it, but permit modifications and 
   improvements by making the current Wiki own it
   - Republish modified version with changes (increment version)
   - Re-import and start again.

Working examples I am developing

In addition to this I am looking to bundle a set of designer tools to make 
use of this development approach, designer tools the we later remove from 
the wiki to keep it simple and not bloated.

I hope also to package a set of features I may want to install and leave 
behind rather than remove after design, so I want to be able to unpackage 
and install them as needed ideally from a package. Kind of like adding 
ingredients to my recipe. However I wish to keep these in a continuous 
development loop like my design tools.

If I could then also publish the package(s) as a library for others to 
selectively install as the need arises it would be fantastic.

Tiddlywiki offers the ideal platform for iterative development processes. 
Not all of these deserve their own plugins for distribution but should be 
selectively installable as needed.

For those in the know I am really keen in leveraging the Agile set based 
design   methods. 
Later I would hope someone else could improve a component and hand it back 
to me for re-inclusion.

In short tiddlywiki is not only a complete platform it can also be it's own 
software development Kit and Rapid Set based design project management.

Regards
Tony


On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:46:18 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Jed,
>
> Thanks so much for this tool, I just can't find the library format 
> documentation, of course I can reverse engineer your code to determine the 
> format but if you can point us to a document I would appreciate it.
>
> It seems part of the complication is for those like myself unfamiliar with 
> recipes.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 7:35:20 PM UTC+10, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> To get the content for the files in a plugin library you can use this 
>> tiddler. Paste this into a tiddler and fill out the from. Unfortunately 
>> here you have to save the files manually by copying and pasting the text 
>> into the files indicated in the tiddler, I never got around to making an 
>> exporter that would put everything in the correct place. In this one the 
>> filter has to list only the plugin tiddlers that you want included in the 
>> library, trying to include non-plugin tiddlers will break things.
>>
>> \define oneTiddler()
>>  <$list
>>filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
>>  >
>>
>>"<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view 
>> tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>",
>>  
>>  <$list
>>filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
>>  >
>>
>>"<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view 
>> tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>"
>>  
>> \end
>>
>> \define jsonListing()
>> [
>> <$list
>>  filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[bl[]]'
>>  variable=theTiddler
>> >
>>  {
>>  <>
>>  
>>  },
>>  
>> 
>> <$list
>>  filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[last[]]'
>>  variable=theTiddler
>> >
>>  {
>>  <>
>>  
>>  }
>>  
>> 
>> ]
>> \end
>>
>> This packages the plugins returned by this filter into the format needed 
>> by a plugin library.
>>
>> The file structure needs to be:
>>
>> *Library Folder
>> ** recipes
>> *** library
>>  tiddlers
>> * //individual tiddler json files//
>>  tiddlers.json
>> ** index.html
>>
>> filter: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/PluginLibrary' field=filter/>
>>
>>
>> !! tiddlers.json
>>
>> ''filename:'' tiddlers.json
>>
>> ''contents:''
>>
>> <>
>>
>> !! Tiddler JSON files:
>>
>> <$list filter={{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}}>
>>
>> ---
>> ''filename:'' <$view field='title' format='urlencoded'/>.json
>>
>> ''contents:''
>>
>> <$text text=<>/>
>> 
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Macro with variable number of arguments

Updated

New Macro name and a button one as well

\define kbd(string delim:" " sep:"+")
<$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]"><>
<$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <<
currentTiddler>>
\end
\define dummy-button(string delim:" " sep:" ")
<$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]"><$button 
tooltip="demonstration 
button only"><>
<$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <$button 
tooltip="demonstration 
button only"><>
\end

<> <>


<> 
<" >>
<>
<>


<>
<>
<" >>
<>
<>


On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:41:12 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Max,
>
> Personally I have a different approach to this; and it is more general in 
> use. Paste this onto Tiddlywiki.com
>
>- If you are only making use of space delimiters anyway, do it 
>yourself in a single parameter
>- This below defaults to space delimiter and + separator as you wish
>- By using comma you can do the same for multiple words
>- By using "/" you can make a system tiddler easier to read
>
>
> \define keys(string delim:" " sep:"+")
> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]">< >>
> <$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <<
> currentTiddler>>
> \end
>
> <>
> <>
> <" >>
> <>
> <>
>
> Need any more features?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:05:31 AM UTC+10, MaxGyver wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I often use the *kbd* tag for showing (keyboard) keys in my TiddlyWiki, 
>> like that:
>>
>> Ctrl+Shift+A
>>
>> Typing this a lot is no fun, so I made a macro:
>>
>> \define key(text: "Shift") $text$
>>
>> It can be used this way:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> Now I could call this macro two or three times for creating a key 
>> combination. But it's even easier with additional macros:
>>
>> \define combo2(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "x") $key1$+$key2$> kbd>
>>
>> \define combo3(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "Shift", key3: "x") $key1$<
>> /kbd>+$key2$+$key3$
>>
>> So I can write:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> which generates the key combination of my example at top.
>>
>> Just for curiosity:
>> Is is possible to create a single macro that works for either one, two or 
>> three keys? 
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Max
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Macro with variable number of arguments

Max,

Personally I have a different approach to this; and it is more general in 
use. Paste this onto Tiddlywiki.com

   - If you are only making use of space delimiters anyway, do it yourself 
   in a single parameter
   - This below defaults to space delimiter and + separator as you wish
   - By using comma you can do the same for multiple words
   - By using "/" you can make a system tiddler easier to read


\define keys(string delim:" " sep:"+")
<$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]first[]]"><>
<$list filter="[[$string$]split[$delim$]rest[]]"> $sep$ <<
currentTiddler>>
\end

<>
<>
<" >>
<>
<>

Need any more features?

Regards
Tony

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:05:31 AM UTC+10, MaxGyver wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I often use the *kbd* tag for showing (keyboard) keys in my TiddlyWiki, 
> like that:
>
> Ctrl+Shift+A
>
> Typing this a lot is no fun, so I made a macro:
>
> \define key(text: "Shift") $text$
>
> It can be used this way:
>
> <>
>
> Now I could call this macro two or three times for creating a key 
> combination. But it's even easier with additional macros:
>
> \define combo2(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "x") $key1$+$key2$ >
>
> \define combo3(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "Shift", key3: "x") $key1$<
> /kbd>+$key2$+$key3$
>
> So I can write:
>
> <>
>
> which generates the key combination of my example at top.
>
> Just for curiosity:
> Is is possible to create a single macro that works for either one, two or 
> three keys? 
>
> Best regards,
> Max
>

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

Jed,

Thanks so much for this tool, I just can't find the library format 
documentation, of course I can reverse engineer your code to determine the 
format but if you can point us to a document I would appreciate it.

It seems part of the complication is for those like myself unfamiliar with 
recipes.

Regards
Tony

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 7:35:20 PM UTC+10, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> To get the content for the files in a plugin library you can use this 
> tiddler. Paste this into a tiddler and fill out the from. Unfortunately 
> here you have to save the files manually by copying and pasting the text 
> into the files indicated in the tiddler, I never got around to making an 
> exporter that would put everything in the correct place. In this one the 
> filter has to list only the plugin tiddlers that you want included in the 
> library, trying to include non-plugin tiddlers will break things.
>
> \define oneTiddler()
>  <$list
>filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
>  >
>
>"<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view 
> tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>",
>  
>  <$list
>filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
>  >
>
>"<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view 
> tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>"
>  
> \end
>
> \define jsonListing()
> [
> <$list
>  filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[bl[]]'
>  variable=theTiddler
> >
>  {
>  <>
>  
>  },
>  
> 
> <$list
>  filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[last[]]'
>  variable=theTiddler
> >
>  {
>  <>
>  
>  }
>  
> 
> ]
> \end
>
> This packages the plugins returned by this filter into the format needed 
> by a plugin library.
>
> The file structure needs to be:
>
> *Library Folder
> ** recipes
> *** library
>  tiddlers
> * //individual tiddler json files//
>  tiddlers.json
> ** index.html
>
> filter: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/PluginLibrary' field=filter/>
>
>
> !! tiddlers.json
>
> ''filename:'' tiddlers.json
>
> ''contents:''
>
> <>
>
> !! Tiddler JSON files:
>
> <$list filter={{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}}>
>
> ---
> ''filename:'' <$view field='title' format='urlencoded'/>.json
>
> ''contents:''
>
> <$text text=<>/>
> 
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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

Jed, 
I think I found the source of error!

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 1:59:35 PM UTC+4:30, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Making a plugin in a single file wiki is simple, put this in a tiddler 
> then fill out the form, the filter is the filter for what you want to 
> package in the plugin:
>
> ```
> \define plugintext()
> {
> "tiddlers": {<$list 
> filter='[subfilter{$:/state/MakePlugin!!filter}]+[bl[]]'>
> "<$view field=title format=jsencoded/>": <$text text=< "jsontiddlers Macro">>/>,
>
>

Should be note to the input parameter in jsontiddler

"<$view field=title format=jsencoded/>": <$text text=<>/>,




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[tw5] Re: Share plugin doesn't work - am I doing something wrong?

Mark S. wrote:
>
> The target tw file of the share link has to have the share plugin 
> installed. Empty.html doesn't have it.
>

Ah, makes sense, something (i.e the target) needs to convert the link into 
tiddlers of course.
 

> So you could install a tiddler on tiddlyspot with the plugin installed, 
> and then links/posts here that would show up on your own tiddlyspot file. 
> This might be a little more convenient than having to constantly update 
> your tiddlyspot location every time you want to share a macro or something.
>

Yeah, thanks.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Peter,

That is humor, how could you show something that did not work on 
http://peterjb.tiddlyspot.com?

Birthe

søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 19.08.53 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> I published my password? Oh dear, that was unintentional. Goes to show the 
> site is beyond me.
> I'll have to sharpen up.
>
>
> 19 Apr 2020, 20:06 by matia...@gmail.com :
>
> Peter Buyze wrote:
>
> The odd thing I observed is that the tiddler that I managed to save a few 
> days ago successfully and that Birthe was able to see, was not there today.
>
>
> You can see the save history by going to  YOURSITE.tiddlyspot.com/backup
>
> There you can open old saves and see if/when it was actually there.
>
> That said; you did publish your password...
>
> <:-)
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Re: [tw5] Re: A Portable Tiddlywiki Node.Js on a Thumb Drive

Arlen, 
I did some tests! I see around 40-55MB when node is idle and around 86-92MB 
when it is active (e.g TW is opened in browser and one edits it)

[image: pic-33.png]
So, node seems hungry and eats memory!

Amazingly TWexe assume 4MB per wiki and Apache when is used 33MB (16 + 18) 
but none have the feature you have on node.js
The Twexe and Apache serve single .html

Just for information

--Mohammad



On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 6:24:21 PM UTC+4:30, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Ok, I ran top to see what the memory actually is. My computer is a 16 GB 
> machine. TiddlyWiki on Node uses 150 MB. TiddlyServer used 100 MB per wiki 
> (approximately), but less than 30 MB when no wikis were loaded (sorry, top 
> only listed the first page of results). Now, given Node's memory 
> management, I would guess that a more constrained environment would use 
> less, so I'm curious what results other people get. 
>
> In my mind, this is huge, so I'm not surprised people need a way around 
> it, but I'm not sure what the culprit is. I'll do some digging. All I know 
> is it's it's big on Node TiddlyWiki and on TiddlyServer both, so it's 
> probably somewhere in TiddlyWiki.
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:47 AM Arlen Beiler  > wrote:
>
>> People have in the past had problems with memory consumption when using 
>> data folders and because TiddlyServer is intended to load data folders as 
>> faithfully as possible, Jed created Bob, which does things a little 
>> different but still works with almost all data folders. However the latest 
>> raspberry pi should have enough memory to be able to handle TiddlyServer 
>> quite easily. I’m assuming one would get the 4 GB version if you’re going 
>> to use it for a server anyway. So I’m guessing this isn’t as big of a 
>> problem as it used to be.
>>
>> Single file wikis on the other hand shouldn’t take much memory. The 
>> TiddlyServer  documentation says how to enable back ups for single file 
>> wikis. And the WebDAV saver works as expected, unlike Apache. 
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 04:16 Mohammad > > wrote:
>>
>>> Further to the instruction by Arlen one can download simplesrv
>>>
>>> https://github.com/lucsan/simpserv
>>>
>>>
>>> and create a readonly webserver to fire any single .html Tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>> So, it possible to have a portable webserver for Tiddlywiki (and holding 
>>> plugin libraries) on a thumb drive
>>> The size of server 14MB if one use Node.JS 6.x
>>>
>>> In summary
>>>
>>> 1. Follow the instruction by Arlen above, lets you have a tiny 
>>> NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server (read/write/save) + (Arlen may guide us to create 
>>> backup)
>>> 2. Add the simpleserv above to have a readonly webserver on another port
>>> 3. Put all in folder on a thumb drive
>>>
>>> The above setup is small and can be used on Raspberry Pi and similar 
>>> device.
>>>
>>> I am thinking  one can put whole of these on an old Android cell phone 
>>> and setup a portable NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 1:23:32 AM UTC+4:30, Arlen Beiler wrote:

 Another way is to download the zip file from NodeJS.org, and copy the 
 node.exe file into the tiddlywiki folder, then (on windows) run "node.exe 
 tiddlywiki.js". You can download the tiddlywiki folder from GitHub. It 
 sounds like that is slightly more complicated than your method, but just 
 thought I'd mention it. 

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:01 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
 tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>>> If you use "-g", isn't it putting the data down in your user drive? Or 
> is it smart enough to put it all on the thumb drive ?
>
> Plus, in the past, node had a habit of creating empty directories in 
> the app/roaming directories even if you had specified specific local 
> directories. This would be hard to detect unless you test on a machine 
> that 
> has never used node.js at all. That is, is it possible that bread crumbs 
> are being left even if you use a portable device?
>
>
> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> You may like to have a Tiddlywiki on Node.js with all its features on 
>> a thumb drive!
>> Or a Plug and Play Tiddlywiki.
>>
>> If so, this is a short instruction for Windows user. 
>>
>> 1. Download the portable Node.js:  (NodeJSPortable_6.14.2.zip)  from 
>> here
>>   https://github.com/garethflowers/nodejs-portable/releases
>>
>> 2. Unzip on your thumb drive in the folder of choice
>>
>> 3. Run NodeJSPortable.exe   
>>
>> 4. In the command window appears install Tiddlywiki with below 
>> command (you need internet access)
>> npm install -g tiddlywiki
>>
>> 5. That's all
>>
>>
>> Make a test
>> 1. Create a new wiki, by entering  below command
>> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server
>>
>> 2. Run your wiki by entering  below command
>> tiddlywiki

Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

I published my password? Oh dear, that was unintentional. Goes to show the site 
is beyond me.I'll have to sharpen up.

19 Apr 2020, 20:06 by matiasg...@gmail.com:

> Peter Buyze wrote:
>
>> The odd thing I observed is that the tiddler that I managed to save a few 
>> days ago successfully and that Birthe was able to see, was not there today.
>>
>
> You can see the save history by going to  YOURSITE.tiddlyspot.com/backup
>
> There you can open old saves and see if/when it was actually there.
>
> That said; you did publish your password...
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Peter Buyze wrote:
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> The odd thing I observed is that the tiddler that I managed to save a few 
> days ago successfully and that Birthe was able to see, was not there today.
>

You can see the save history by going to  YOURSITE.tiddlyspot.com/backup

There you can open old saves and see if/when it was actually there.

That said; you did publish your password...

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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

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> Peter,
>
> If  you want you can send me a private mail with your spot name and password, 
> then I will try and we will find out if it is due to misunderstanding or just 
> something else.
>
> Birthe
>
> søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 18.34.43 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
>> Birthe, believe it or not but have been using Chromium !! I gave up using FF 
>> quite a while ago.
>>
>> I tried again both my accounts but the same error message pops up. I'll try 
>> again tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> 19 Apr 2020, 19:28 by >> strikk...@gmail.com <>>> :
>>
>>> Peter and Mat,
>>>
>>> I just set up a new tiddlyspot. I had problems using Firefox, so I had to 
>>> use Chromium. That worked.
>>>
>>> @Peter, what browser are you using?
>>> if you want to upload a local tw to your tiddlyspot you will need to use 
>>> Chrome or Chromium,
>>>
>>> @Mat, I did not go to the new spot, but got the old classic anyway. I did 
>>> succeed using step 2 to upload to the new tiddlyspot. I had to try several 
>>> times though.
>>> I cannot remember having had so much fuss before. New browsers=
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>> søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 18.13.46 UTC+2 skrev Mat:
>>>
 OK, Peter, you've not gone through the  http://tiddlywiki5. 
 tiddlyspot.com/  site (alternatively, you didn't follow the 
 instructions there) so you have set up an old version (TiddlyWiki Classic) 
 on your site.

 To load your site with a TW5, I suggest you go to  
 http://tiddlywiki5. tiddlyspot.com/  but skip step 1 and go 
 straight to step 2 there. This will upload a TW5 onto your new tiddlyspot. 

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyDesktop

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> It should be doing both.
>
> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:39:07 AM UTC-7, Peter Buyze wrote:
>
>> I am now using this successfully - yay !!
>>
>> Each time I amend a tiddler and then close it, TD does a save, which is 
>> great. It saves a full copy with a unique number in a backup folder.
>>
>> My question is this: does TD only save to the backup folder or does it also 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Mat,

I did use http:/tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com First step went okay, but 2 step 
did not work. That is when I gave up on Firefox opened chromium and 
http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com to finish the job. That went okay 
.third time I tried.

No I do no think you should revert version. It works  well enough if using 
Chromium from the start.

Birthe

søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 18.44.45 UTC+2 skrev Mat:
>
>
> I'm not sure what "not go to the new spot" means - are you saying that you 
> did go via http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ - and completed all steps - 
> and still didn't get a TW5 at first? When you did step 2 you get the upper 
> left yellow "saving saved" messages? Or is that what was problematic?
>
> I can revert back so http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ uses TW5.1.21 if 
> we think there's a problem with the saver.
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: TiddlyDesktop

2020-04-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

It should be doing both.

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:39:07 AM UTC-7, Peter Buyze wrote:
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> I am now using this successfully - yay !!
>
> Each time I amend a tiddler and then close it, TD does a save, which is 
> great. It saves a full copy with a unique number in a backup folder.
>
> My question is this: does TD only save to the backup folder or does it 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

The odd thing I observed is that the tiddler that I managed to save a few days 
ago successfully and that Birthe was able to see, was not there today.

19 Apr 2020, 19:44 by matiasg...@gmail.com:

> Birthe C wrote:
>
>> I just set up a new tiddlyspot. I had problems using Firefox, so I had to 
>> use Chromium. That worked.
>>
>
> A main idea to use > http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/>  is to avoid the 
> problems that can come up when using certain browsers going directly via 
> tiddlyspot.com.
>  
>
>> @Mat, I did >> not>>  go to the new spot, but got the old classic anyway. I 
>> did succeed using step 2 to upload to the new tiddlyspot. I had to try 
>> several times though.
>>
>  
> I'm not sure what "not go to the new spot" means - are you saying that you 
> did go via > http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/>  - and completed all steps - 
> and still didn't get a TW5 at first? When you did step 2 you get the upper 
> left yellow "saving saved" messages? Or is that what was problematic?
>
> I can revert back so > http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/>  uses TW5.1.21 if 
> we think there's a problem with the saver.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Peter,

If  you want you can send me a private mail with your spot name and 
password, then I will try and we will find out if it is due to 
misunderstanding or just something else.

Birthe

søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 18.34.43 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> Birthe, believe it or not but have been using Chromium !! I gave up using 
> FF quite a while ago.
>
> I tried again both my accounts but the same error message pops up. I'll 
> try again tomorrow.
>
>
>
> 19 Apr 2020, 19:28 by strikk...@gmail.com :
>
> Peter and Mat,
>
> I just set up a new tiddlyspot. I had problems using Firefox, so I had to 
> use Chromium. That worked.
>
> @Peter, what browser are you using?
> if you want to upload a local tw to your tiddlyspot you will need to use 
> Chrome or Chromium,
>
> @Mat, I did not go to the new spot, but got the old classic anyway. I did 
> succeed using step 2 to upload to the new tiddlyspot. I had to try several 
> times though.
> I cannot remember having had so much fuss before. New browsers=
>
> Birthe
>
> søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 18.13.46 UTC+2 skrev Mat:
>
> OK, Peter, you've not gone through the http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> site 
> (alternatively, you didn't follow the instructions there) so you have set 
> up an old version (TiddlyWiki Classic) on your site.
>
> To load your site with a TW5, I suggest you go to 
> http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ but skip step 1 and go straight to 
> step 2 there. This will upload a TW5 onto your new tiddlyspot. 
>
> <:-)
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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Birthe C wrote:
>
> I just set up a new tiddlyspot. I had problems using Firefox, so I had to 
> use Chromium. That worked.
>

A main idea to use http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ is to avoid the 
problems that can come up when using certain browsers going directly via 
tiddlyspot.com.

> @Mat, I did *not* go to the new spot, but got the old classic anyway. I 
> did succeed using step 2 to upload to the new tiddlyspot. I had to try 
> several times though.
>

I'm not sure what "not go to the new spot" means - are you saying that you 
did go via http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ - and completed all steps - 
and still didn't get a TW5 at first? When you did step 2 you get the upper 
left yellow "saving saved" messages? Or is that what was problematic?

I can revert back so http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ uses TW5.1.21 if we 
think there's a problem with the saver.

<:-)

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[tw5] TiddlyDesktop

I am now using this successfully - yay !!

Each time I amend a tiddler and then close it, TD does a save, which is great. 
It saves a full copy with a unique number in a backup folder.

My question is this: does TD only save to the backup folder or does it also 
update the file I am currently using?

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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Birthe, believe it or not but have been using Chromium !! I gave up using FF 
quite a while ago.

I tried again both my accounts but the same error message pops up. I'll try 
again tomorrow.


19 Apr 2020, 19:28 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com:

> Peter and Mat,
>
> I just set up a new tiddlyspot. I had problems using Firefox, so I had to use 
> Chromium. That worked.
>
> @Peter, what browser are you using?
> if you want to upload a local tw to your tiddlyspot you will need to use 
> Chrome or Chromium,
>
> @Mat, I did not go to the new spot, but got the old classic anyway. I did 
> succeed using step 2 to upload to the new tiddlyspot. I had to try several 
> times though.
> I cannot remember having had so much fuss before. New browsers=
>
> Birthe
>
> søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 18.13.46 UTC+2 skrev Mat:
>
>> OK, Peter, you've not gone through the >> http://tiddlywiki5.>> 
>> tiddlyspot.com/>>  site (alternatively, you didn't follow the instructions 
>> there) so you have set up an old version (TiddlyWiki Classic) on your site.
>>
>> To load your site with a TW5, I suggest you go to >> http://tiddlywiki5.>> 
>> tiddlyspot.com/>>  but skip step 1 and go straight to step 2 there. This 
>> will upload a TW5 onto your new tiddlyspot. 
>>
>> <:-)
>>
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[tw5] Re: 5.1.22 Upgrade - Top MenuBar

2020-04-19 Thread Sylvain Naudin



Le dimanche 19 avril 2020 13:58:01 UTC+2, Misterel85 a écrit :
>
>  (all my TW files are in French). I checked in the French forum to find if 
> somebody else had met that problem, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
>


Bien sûr puisque c'est un plugin ;-)
N'hésite pas à rester une prochaine fois !

Cheers,
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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Peter and Mat,

I just set up a new tiddlyspot. I had problems using Firefox, so I had to 
use Chromium. That worked.

@Peter, what browser are you using?
if you want to upload a local tw to your tiddlyspot you will need to use 
Chrome or Chromium,

@Mat, I did not go to the new spot, but got the old classic anyway. I did 
succeed using step 2 to upload to the new tiddlyspot. I had to try several 
times though.
I cannot remember having had so much fuss before. New browsers=

Birthe

søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 18.13.46 UTC+2 skrev Mat:
>
> OK, Peter, you've not gone through the http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> site 
> (alternatively, you didn't follow the instructions there) so you have set 
> up an old version (TiddlyWiki Classic) on your site.
>
> To load your site with a TW5, I suggest you go to 
> http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ but skip step 1 and go straight to 
> step 2 there. This will upload a TW5 onto your new tiddlyspot. 
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Share plugin doesn't work - am I doing something wrong?

2020-04-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

The target tw file of the share link has to have the share plugin 
installed. Empty.html doesn't have it.

So you could install a tiddler on tiddlyspot with the plugin installed, and 
then links/posts here that would show up on your own tiddlyspot file. This 
might be a little more convenient than having to constantly update your 
tiddlyspot location every time you want to share a macro or something.


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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

OK, Peter, you've not gone through the http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ site 
(alternatively, you didn't follow the instructions there) so you have set 
up an old version (TiddlyWiki Classic) on your site.

To load your site with a TW5, I suggest you go to 
http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ but skip step 1 and go straight to step 
2 there. This will upload a TW5 onto your new tiddlyspot. 

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: A Portable Tiddlywiki Node.Js on a Thumb Drive

Hi Arlen,
 Many thanks for these useful inputs! So, one should make trade off between 
this flexibility and memory consumption!

Best
Mohammad

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 6:24:21 PM UTC+4:30, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Ok, I ran top to see what the memory actually is. My computer is a 16 GB 
> machine. TiddlyWiki on Node uses 150 MB. TiddlyServer used 100 MB per wiki 
> (approximately), but less than 30 MB when no wikis were loaded (sorry, top 
> only listed the first page of results). Now, given Node's memory 
> management, I would guess that a more constrained environment would use 
> less, so I'm curious what results other people get. 
>
> In my mind, this is huge, so I'm not surprised people need a way around 
> it, but I'm not sure what the culprit is. I'll do some digging. All I know 
> is it's it's big on Node TiddlyWiki and on TiddlyServer both, so it's 
> probably somewhere in TiddlyWiki.
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:47 AM Arlen Beiler  > wrote:
>
>> People have in the past had problems with memory consumption when using 
>> data folders and because TiddlyServer is intended to load data folders as 
>> faithfully as possible, Jed created Bob, which does things a little 
>> different but still works with almost all data folders. However the latest 
>> raspberry pi should have enough memory to be able to handle TiddlyServer 
>> quite easily. I’m assuming one would get the 4 GB version if you’re going 
>> to use it for a server anyway. So I’m guessing this isn’t as big of a 
>> problem as it used to be.
>>
>> Single file wikis on the other hand shouldn’t take much memory. The 
>> TiddlyServer  documentation says how to enable back ups for single file 
>> wikis. And the WebDAV saver works as expected, unlike Apache. 
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 04:16 Mohammad > > wrote:
>>
>>> Further to the instruction by Arlen one can download simplesrv
>>>
>>> https://github.com/lucsan/simpserv
>>>
>>>
>>> and create a readonly webserver to fire any single .html Tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>> So, it possible to have a portable webserver for Tiddlywiki (and holding 
>>> plugin libraries) on a thumb drive
>>> The size of server 14MB if one use Node.JS 6.x
>>>
>>> In summary
>>>
>>> 1. Follow the instruction by Arlen above, lets you have a tiny 
>>> NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server (read/write/save) + (Arlen may guide us to create 
>>> backup)
>>> 2. Add the simpleserv above to have a readonly webserver on another port
>>> 3. Put all in folder on a thumb drive
>>>
>>> The above setup is small and can be used on Raspberry Pi and similar 
>>> device.
>>>
>>> I am thinking  one can put whole of these on an old Android cell phone 
>>> and setup a portable NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 1:23:32 AM UTC+4:30, Arlen Beiler wrote:

 Another way is to download the zip file from NodeJS.org, and copy the 
 node.exe file into the tiddlywiki folder, then (on windows) run "node.exe 
 tiddlywiki.js". You can download the tiddlywiki folder from GitHub. It 
 sounds like that is slightly more complicated than your method, but just 
 thought I'd mention it. 

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:01 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
 tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>>> If you use "-g", isn't it putting the data down in your user drive? Or 
> is it smart enough to put it all on the thumb drive ?
>
> Plus, in the past, node had a habit of creating empty directories in 
> the app/roaming directories even if you had specified specific local 
> directories. This would be hard to detect unless you test on a machine 
> that 
> has never used node.js at all. That is, is it possible that bread crumbs 
> are being left even if you use a portable device?
>
>
> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> You may like to have a Tiddlywiki on Node.js with all its features on 
>> a thumb drive!
>> Or a Plug and Play Tiddlywiki.
>>
>> If so, this is a short instruction for Windows user. 
>>
>> 1. Download the portable Node.js:  (NodeJSPortable_6.14.2.zip)  from 
>> here
>>   https://github.com/garethflowers/nodejs-portable/releases
>>
>> 2. Unzip on your thumb drive in the folder of choice
>>
>> 3. Run NodeJSPortable.exe   
>>
>> 4. In the command window appears install Tiddlywiki with below 
>> command (you need internet access)
>> npm install -g tiddlywiki
>>
>> 5. That's all
>>
>>
>> Make a test
>> 1. Create a new wiki, by entering  below command
>> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server
>>
>> 2. Run your wiki by entering  below command
>> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --listen
>>
>> 3. Open a browser (FF, Chrome, Edge, Safari, ...) and
>>  visit http://127.0.0.1:8080/ in your browser
>>
>>
>> It has all the same features as Tiddlywiki on NodeJS, plus, it leaves 
>> no personal information

[tw5] raspberry pi nextcloud and TW

2020-04-19 Thread kelsang sherab

I am looking for info - resources to learn from on how to create a TW that 
is accesible remotely using a raspberry pi that has a Nextcloud on it.
Thank you

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[tw5] Re: Macro with variable number of arguments

2020-04-19 Thread MaxGyver

@Mat: Thanks for your reply! Yes, I know that I can pass empty strings as 
arguments but I don't want to end up with empty keys. And I had no idea how 
to skip a key if an empty string was given.

@Eric: Awesome! This works perfectly. Thank you!


Am Sonntag, 19. April 2020 17:24:54 UTC+2 schrieb Eric Shulman:
>
> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 8:05:31 AM UTC-7, MaxGyver wrote:
>>
>> I often use the *kbd* tag for showing (keyboard) keys in my TiddlyWiki, 
>> like that:
>> \define combo3(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "Shift", key3: "x") $key1$<
>> /kbd>+$key2$+$key3$
>> So I can write:
>> <>
>> Is is possible to create a single macro that works for either one, two or 
>> three keys? 
>>
>
> This will do what you want:
> \define key(key1,key2,key3)
> \whitespace trim
> $key1$
> <$reveal text="$key2$" type="nomatch" default="">+$key2$ $reveal>
> <$reveal text="$key3$" type="nomatch" default="">+$key3$ $reveal>
> \end
>
> With the above macro, you can then write any of the following
> <>
> <>
> <>
>
> Note: The <$reveal> widget usually takes a "state" parameter, which is the 
> name of a tiddler containing a text field with the value to compare.  By 
> omitting the "state" parameter, and using the "default" parameter instead, 
> you can use $reveal to compare two literal values, without needs a tiddler 
> in which to store a state value.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
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[tw5] Re: Library as sidebar, listing external content?

2020-04-19 Thread Julio Peña

Hi there all,

Whoa (ala Keannu Reeves)...neato!
I'll be following with interest.

Best regards,
Julio

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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Peter,

When you created a new Tiddlyspot account, I do not understand why you had 
to change the password. Use the one you wrote, when you set up your account.

I am sorry if you are giving up. Tiddlyspot is simply wonderful.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Mat, Birthe,

I have had it with Tiddlyspot. I cannot get it to work anymore, which is in all 
probability due to my stupidity.

I did as you said Mat, via the Control Panel. But when I put in my password 
(saved in my password manager that never fails me), it tells me the password is 
wrong.

I then went to a new Tiddlyspot account I had created, and before getting into 
the CP you have to change your original password. But when I input the old 
password and twice the new one it tells me my old password is wrong !!! Arghhh.

So, let's close this issue. I will live without my shortcut. I will only ask 
questions here if no tiddler is required. I am truly sorry, but I don't see any 
other way.

19 Apr 2020, 18:05 by matiasg...@gmail.com:

>> it asks in which directory I would like to save it, which seems >> strange 
>> to me because it should save it on the tiddlyspot server>> . Anyway I choose 
>> a directory on my computer and save. After that the red tick in the right 
>> hand sidepane has turned gry.
>>
>
> If it asks which directory, then this means you're asked where to save it 
> LOCALLY on your computer. This is a clear indication that you didn't set the 
> username or password.
>
> <:-)
>
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[tw5] Re: Macro with variable number of arguments

2020-04-19 Thread Eric Shulman

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 8:05:31 AM UTC-7, MaxGyver wrote:
>
> I often use the *kbd* tag for showing (keyboard) keys in my TiddlyWiki, 
> like that:
> \define combo3(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "Shift", key3: "x") $key1$<
> /kbd>+$key2$+$key3$
> So I can write:
> <>
> Is is possible to create a single macro that works for either one, two or 
> three keys? 
>

This will do what you want:
\define showkey(key1,key2,key3)
\whitespace trim
$key1$
<$reveal text="$key2$" type="nomatch" default="">+$key2$
<$reveal text="$key3$" type="nomatch" default="">+$key3$
\end

With the above macro, you can then write any of the following
<>
<>
<>

Note: The <$reveal> widget usually takes a "state" parameter, which is the 
name of a tiddler containing a text field with the value to compare.  By 
omitting the "state" parameter, and using the "default" parameter instead, 
you can use $reveal to compare two literal values, without needs a tiddler 
in which to store a state value.

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: Macro with variable number of arguments



On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 5:13:25 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> Macros themselves don't require that all arguments are actually used. If 
> all are needed depends only on the logic that you create inside the macro. 
>
> \define foo(bar, baz) $bar$ and $baz$
>
> <> ---> YO and
>
> However be careful because the first argument that you put in the 
> macrocall is interpreted as the first parameter. So you must either specify 
> which parameter:
>
> <> -> and YO
>
> (in this particular case, because there are no spaces in YO, it could 
> actually be merely bar:YO )
>
> or give an empty argument
>
> <>  -> and YO
>
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: Macro with variable number of arguments

Macros themselves don't require that all arguments are actually used. If 
all are needed depends only on the logic that you create inside the macro. 

\define foo(bar, baz) $bar$ and $baz$

<> ---> YO and

However be careful because the first argument that you put in the macrocall 
is interpreted as the first parameter. So you must either specify which 
parameter:

<> -> and YO

(in this particular case, because there are no spaces in YO, it could 
actually be merely bar:YO )

or give an empty argument

<>  -> YO and


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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut


>
>
>- it asks in which directory I would like to save it, which seems *strange 
>to me because it should save it on the tiddlyspot server*. Anyway I 
>choose a directory on my computer and save. After that the red tick in the 
>right hand sidepane has turned gry.
>
>
If it asks which directory, then this means you're asked where to save it 
LOCALLY on your computer. This is a clear indication that you didn't set 
the username or password.

<:-)

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[tw5] Macro with variable number of arguments

2020-04-19 Thread MaxGyver

Hi all,

I often use the *kbd* tag for showing (keyboard) keys in my TiddlyWiki, 
like that:

Ctrl+Shift+A

Typing this a lot is no fun, so I made a macro:

\define key(text: "Shift") $text$

It can be used this way:

<>

Now I could call this macro two or three times for creating a key 
combination. But it's even easier with additional macros:

\define combo2(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "x") $key1$+$key2$

\define combo3(key1: "Ctrl", key2: "Shift", key3: "x") $key1$<
/kbd>+$key2$+$key3$

So I can write:

<>

which generates the key combination of my example at top.

Just for curiosity:
Is is possible to create a single macro that works for either one, two or 
three keys? 

Best regards,
Max

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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

You don't need to export anything and you don't need to dragndrop anything 
IF you want ALL your tiddlers to be uploaded to your tiddlyspot.

If you only want certain tiddlers to be uploaded you do, indeed, export or 
dragndrop tiddlers onto the peterjb.tiddlyspot.com site.

Saving to tiddlyspot, or saving the tiddlyspot, is simply to click the 
circled tick button ...BUT first you must SET the password for it like so:

In your wiki where you have made changes, go to Controlpanel > Saving > 
Tiddlyspot
fill in your username, i.e "peterjb"
and your password

Then klick the red circled tickmark. 

This uploads the current wiki (with all its tiddlers) to overwrite the wiki 
that is on tiddlyspot. This is how you do it regardless if your wiki is a 
local file that you upload to tiddlyspot or if you are working directly on 
tiddlyspot



Do not have a tiddler that shows your password. Especially now that we all 
know your url :-)

You can change your tiddlyspot password here:  
http://peterjb.tiddlyspot.com/controlpanel


<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Peter,

I really don't know. But the upper tiddler named Change password, follow 
the link. Enter in the box there (I think you have done that before, 
because initially when i created the site, I used password and that saved. 
I really do hope you remember the password you have entered.
If you succeed in doing that. You must go to your wikis control panel also 
to enter your new password to be able to save. Forget the tiddlers shown. 
Delete the upper and close the bottom one. Now try if you are able to save.
If you are able to save drag and drop you tiddler to your spot and save. 
After having saved - you should not have any error messages - because then 
it will not get saved. Refresh the wiki and you will have you tiddler still 
- if it is not there, it did not save.

If it does not save, I think yoiu should create a new tiddlyspot.

Birthe

søndag den 19. april .2020 kl. 16.22.19 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> OK, tell me what I do wrong.erid file
>
>- I go to tiddlyspot - see screenshot
>- following your instructions I went to the link in the upper tiddler 
>(Change password) to change password
>- I get back to this page
>- I import the tiddler by drag & drop onto the tiddlyspot page
>- it pops up a table showing the file to be imported so I click on the 
>"import" button
>- I then click on the red tick in the right hand sidepane
>- it asks in which directory I would like to save it, which seems *strange 
>to me because it should save it on the tiddlyspot server*. Anyway I 
>choose a directory on my computer and save. After that the red tick in the 
>right hand sidepane has turned gry.
>
>
>
> 19 Apr 2020, 17:14 by strikk...@gmail.com :
>
> Peter,
>
> This i strange! I can not see any changes- I wonder because I have very 
> seldom had any problems with tiddlyspot.
>
>
> Birthe
>
>
> søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 15.23.32 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
> I deleted tiddler, changed password, reimported tiddler, saved.
>
> Better now?
>
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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

Thank you Jed,
 I could reproduce your result. Would you please test with 
filter: [tag[Learning]]


--Mohammad


On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 4:16:49 PM UTC+4:30, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I am not getting those results, I put that code into a tiddler on 
> tiddlywiki.com, fill out all of the fields in the form and use the filter 
> [!is[system]limit[10]] and the plugin gets the first 10 non system tiddlers.
>
> What steps should I take to reproduce what you are getting?
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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Peter,

This i strange! I can not see any changes- I wonder because I have very 
seldom had any problems with tiddlyspot.


Birthe


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> I deleted tiddler, changed password, reimported tiddler, saved.
>
> Better now?
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: A Portable Tiddlywiki Node.Js on a Thumb Drive

2020-04-19 Thread Arlen Beiler

Ok, I ran top to see what the memory actually is. My computer is a 16 GB
machine. TiddlyWiki on Node uses 150 MB. TiddlyServer used 100 MB per wiki
(approximately), but less than 30 MB when no wikis were loaded (sorry, top
only listed the first page of results). Now, given Node's memory
management, I would guess that a more constrained environment would use
less, so I'm curious what results other people get.

In my mind, this is huge, so I'm not surprised people need a way around it,
but I'm not sure what the culprit is. I'll do some digging. All I know is
it's it's big on Node TiddlyWiki and on TiddlyServer both, so it's probably
somewhere in TiddlyWiki.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:47 AM Arlen Beiler  wrote:

> People have in the past had problems with memory consumption when using
> data folders and because TiddlyServer is intended to load data folders as
> faithfully as possible, Jed created Bob, which does things a little
> different but still works with almost all data folders. However the latest
> raspberry pi should have enough memory to be able to handle TiddlyServer
> quite easily. I’m assuming one would get the 4 GB version if you’re going
> to use it for a server anyway. So I’m guessing this isn’t as big of a
> problem as it used to be.
>
> Single file wikis on the other hand shouldn’t take much memory. The
> TiddlyServer  documentation says how to enable back ups for single file
> wikis. And the WebDAV saver works as expected, unlike Apache.
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 04:16 Mohammad  wrote:
>
>> Further to the instruction by Arlen one can download simplesrv
>>
>> https://github.com/lucsan/simpserv
>>
>>
>> and create a readonly webserver to fire any single .html Tiddlywiki.
>>
>> So, it possible to have a portable webserver for Tiddlywiki (and holding
>> plugin libraries) on a thumb drive
>> The size of server 14MB if one use Node.JS 6.x
>>
>> In summary
>>
>> 1. Follow the instruction by Arlen above, lets you have a tiny
>> NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server (read/write/save) + (Arlen may guide us to create
>> backup)
>> 2. Add the simpleserv above to have a readonly webserver on another port
>> 3. Put all in folder on a thumb drive
>>
>> The above setup is small and can be used on Raspberry Pi and similar
>> device.
>>
>> I am thinking  one can put whole of these on an old Android cell phone
>> and setup a portable NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 1:23:32 AM UTC+4:30, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> Another way is to download the zip file from NodeJS.org, and copy the
>>> node.exe file into the tiddlywiki folder, then (on windows) run "node.exe
>>> tiddlywiki.js". You can download the tiddlywiki folder from GitHub. It
>>> sounds like that is slightly more complicated than your method, but just
>>> thought I'd mention it.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:01 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>> If you use "-g", isn't it putting the data down in your user drive? Or is
 it smart enough to put it all on the thumb drive ?

 Plus, in the past, node had a habit of creating empty directories in
 the app/roaming directories even if you had specified specific local
 directories. This would be hard to detect unless you test on a machine that
 has never used node.js at all. That is, is it possible that bread crumbs
 are being left even if you use a portable device?


 On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> You may like to have a Tiddlywiki on Node.js with all its features on
> a thumb drive!
> Or a Plug and Play Tiddlywiki.
>
> If so, this is a short instruction for Windows user.
>
> 1. Download the portable Node.js:  (NodeJSPortable_6.14.2.zip)  from
> here
>   https://github.com/garethflowers/nodejs-portable/releases
>
> 2. Unzip on your thumb drive in the folder of choice
>
> 3. Run NodeJSPortable.exe
>
> 4. In the command window appears install Tiddlywiki with below command
> (you need internet access)
> npm install -g tiddlywiki
>
> 5. That's all
>
>
> Make a test
> 1. Create a new wiki, by entering  below command
> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server
>
> 2. Run your wiki by entering  below command
> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --listen
>
> 3. Open a browser (FF, Chrome, Edge, Safari, ...) and
>  visit http://127.0.0.1:8080/ in your browser
>
>
> It has all the same features as Tiddlywiki on NodeJS, plus, it leaves
> no personal information behind on the machine you run it on, so you can
> take it with you wherever you go.
>
>
> This is another journey in Tiddlywiki wonderland.
>
> --Mohammad
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Two stories in TiddlyWiki

2020-04-19 Thread David Gifford

I agree!




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> Dave,
>
> I liked it maybe because I did not know edit in full screen mode before.
> Better used in another TW I think. Deleting the plugin will save us some
> space. DoubleBlink is growing rapidly.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

I deleted tiddler, changed password, reimported tiddler, saved.
Better now?
19 Apr 2020, 16:16 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com:

> Peter,
>
> Sorry but > no> . Did you remember to insert the password before saving. 
> After saving refresh the wiki and check that you can find your tiddler. Also 
> it would be a good idea to delete tiddler Change passwword.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Peter,

Sorry but *no*. Did you remember to insert the password before saving. 
After saving refresh the wiki and check that you can find your tiddler. 
Also it would be a good idea to delete tiddler Change passwword.


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Re: [tw5] Re: Two stories in TiddlyWiki

Dave,

I liked it maybe because I did not know edit in full screen mode before. 
Better used in another TW I think. Deleting the plugin will save us some 
space. DoubleBlink is growing rapidly.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Birthe, I tried again. Can you see it now?


19 Apr 2020, 15:32 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com:

> Peter,
>
> I cannot find you tiddler at > http://peterjb.tiddlyspot.com>  
>
> But you can use:
> Ctrl+Enter
>  Saves
> Esc
> cancel editing
>
> Birthe
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Re: [tw5] Re: Two stories in TiddlyWiki

2020-04-19 Thread David Gifford

Thanks Birthe,

Great excuse for me to delete it. That was a feature I thought I would
like, but found I didn't.




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> Hi Dave,
>
> Edit in full screen mode works well in *TiddlyBlink*. But it really does
> *not* work in *DoubleBlink*. The editor is open full screen, can be
> edited but not saved only option is to cancel.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: A Portable Tiddlywiki Node.Js on a Thumb Drive

2020-04-19 Thread Arlen Beiler

People have in the past had problems with memory consumption when using
data folders and because TiddlyServer is intended to load data folders as
faithfully as possible, Jed created Bob, which does things a little
different but still works with almost all data folders. However the latest
raspberry pi should have enough memory to be able to handle TiddlyServer
quite easily. I’m assuming one would get the 4 GB version if you’re going
to use it for a server anyway. So I’m guessing this isn’t as big of a
problem as it used to be.

Single file wikis on the other hand shouldn’t take much memory. The
TiddlyServer  documentation says how to enable back ups for single file
wikis. And the WebDAV saver works as expected, unlike Apache.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 04:16 Mohammad  wrote:

> Further to the instruction by Arlen one can download simplesrv
>
> https://github.com/lucsan/simpserv
>
>
> and create a readonly webserver to fire any single .html Tiddlywiki.
>
> So, it possible to have a portable webserver for Tiddlywiki (and holding
> plugin libraries) on a thumb drive
> The size of server 14MB if one use Node.JS 6.x
>
> In summary
>
> 1. Follow the instruction by Arlen above, lets you have a tiny
> NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server (read/write/save) + (Arlen may guide us to create
> backup)
> 2. Add the simpleserv above to have a readonly webserver on another port
> 3. Put all in folder on a thumb drive
>
> The above setup is small and can be used on Raspberry Pi and similar
> device.
>
> I am thinking  one can put whole of these on an old Android cell phone and
> setup a portable NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 1:23:32 AM UTC+4:30, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> Another way is to download the zip file from NodeJS.org, and copy the
>> node.exe file into the tiddlywiki folder, then (on windows) run "node.exe
>> tiddlywiki.js". You can download the tiddlywiki folder from GitHub. It
>> sounds like that is slightly more complicated than your method, but just
>> thought I'd mention it.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:01 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
> If you use "-g", isn't it putting the data down in your user drive? Or is
>>> it smart enough to put it all on the thumb drive ?
>>>
>>> Plus, in the past, node had a habit of creating empty directories in the
>>> app/roaming directories even if you had specified specific local
>>> directories. This would be hard to detect unless you test on a machine that
>>> has never used node.js at all. That is, is it possible that bread crumbs
>>> are being left even if you use a portable device?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:

 You may like to have a Tiddlywiki on Node.js with all its features on a
 thumb drive!
 Or a Plug and Play Tiddlywiki.

 If so, this is a short instruction for Windows user.

 1. Download the portable Node.js:  (NodeJSPortable_6.14.2.zip)  from
 here
   https://github.com/garethflowers/nodejs-portable/releases

 2. Unzip on your thumb drive in the folder of choice

 3. Run NodeJSPortable.exe

 4. In the command window appears install Tiddlywiki with below command
 (you need internet access)
 npm install -g tiddlywiki

 5. That's all

 Make a test
 1. Create a new wiki, by entering  below command
 tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server

 2. Run your wiki by entering  below command
 tiddlywiki mynewwiki --listen

 3. Open a browser (FF, Chrome, Edge, Safari, ...) and
  visit http://127.0.0.1:8080/ in your browser

 It has all the same features as Tiddlywiki on NodeJS, plus, it leaves
 no personal information behind on the machine you run it on, so you can
 take it with you wherever you go.

 This is another journey in Tiddlywiki wonderland.

 --Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: IndieWeb and TW

2020-04-19 Thread HansWobbe

@Chris:  Thanks for sharing this and for the nice memories it triggered!

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[tw5] Re: Create a shortcut

Peter,

I cannot find you tiddler at http://peterjb.tiddlyspot.com 

But you can use:
Ctrl+Enter  Saves
Esc cancel editing

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: 5.1.22 Upgrade - Top MenuBar

2020-04-19 Thread Misterel85

Thanks a lot for your quick reply, Birthe. I was sure the menu bar was 
included in the new version of TW.



Le dimanche 19 avril 2020 14:14:40 UTC+2, Birthe C a écrit :
>
> You have to install the menubar plugin. Go to control panel - Plugins, 
> click the blue button, get more plugins. Select Official Tiddlywiki Plugin 
> Library.
>
>
> Birthe
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[tw5] Re: 5.1.22 Upgrade - Top MenuBar

The MenuBar is a plugin. Install it via the Plugin directory, found in the 
Controlpanel.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: 5.1.22 Upgrade - Top MenuBar

You have to install the menubar plugin. Go to control panel - Plugins, 
click the blue button, get more plugins. Select Official Tiddlywiki Plugin 
Library.


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Modifying the "More actions" menu

2020-04-19 Thread Hubert

Thanks Tony.

For the record, I've decided to take the following route:

   1. Open the shadow tiddler *$:/core/ui/Buttons/more-tiddler-actions*
   2. Modify the list filter inside of this shadow tiddler so that it 
   excludes the list items I don't want to see

I've also made a copy of the modified shadow tiddler's text field in a 
separate tiddler in case I ever need to bring back my changes.

If I ever need to bring back the "factory" version, all I need to do is 
delete the modified (overwritten) shadow tiddler. That's the beauty of 
shadow tiddlers in general.

Now I only have the stuff that I need:

[image: modified.png]

Thanks everyone for your help. Issue solved.

By the way, the built in class *.tc-drop-down* causes the More tiddler 
actions dropdown to overflow viewport on mobile, because its max-width is 
set to 380px for some reason. Most mobile browsers in mobile view have a 
viewport width of 360px today, so I've targeted that with a media query in 
my own stylesheet like below, but that's an unrelated note to anyone 
interested:

@media (max-width: 650px) {
.tc-drop-down {
min-width: 360px;
}
}

Regards,
Hubert

On Sunday, 19 April 2020 00:24:44 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Hubert,
>
> A good design approach is to rule something into existence rather than 
> hacking the default behavior to rule something out. Its a bit more long 
> winded but would be a more versatile option.
>
>- Create a new More Drop down menu and add only the buttons you want 
>in the new more dropdown
>- Hide the standard more drop down button from display on the view 
>toolbar.
>- With a little reference to the current methods you could have 
>another "more toolbar" settings like the current.
>
> I have actually done this before.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 8:30:36 AM UTC+10, Hubert wrote:
>>
>> Thank you all.
>>
>> I should have stressed that I'm only interested in what's shown when 
>> clicking on the "More actions" button. I'm not trying to hide this button 
>> itself or any other button on the same level for that matter. I am trying 
>> to hide what's *revealed* by the "More actions" button (stuff "beneath" 
>> it).
>>
>> Birthe, you've actually pointed me in the right direction -- I do need to 
>> edit the filter in the shadow tiddler 
>> *$:/core/ui/Buttons/more-tiddler-actions* by manually removing 
>> references to anything I don't need. I'll do that tomorrow and think this 
>> should do the trick. Thank you!
>>
>> PS. Mat, although that's not exactly what I needed, it's great that 
>> you've spotted the UI inconsistency there by the way.
>>
>> Thanks again to everyone for your involvement :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hubert
>>
>> On Saturday, 18 April 2020 22:48:13 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>>>
>>> Hubert, as the others correctly point out, you set it where they state. 
>>> What is not clear, however, is that unchecked items *means* that it 
>>> goes into the more dropdown. IMO this UI is not clear. I'll post an issue 
>>> on github.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>

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[tw5] 5.1.22 Upgrade - Top MenuBar

2020-04-19 Thread Misterel85

Hi everyone,

I discovered TiddlyWiki a few months ago and I really enjoy using it. I
have plenty of ideas of things I'd like to be able to do with TW but I lack
time and knowledge to do them all. I'm sure I'll come back to this active
and friendly community for help with a lot of questions.

I started updating some of my wikis to version 5.1.22 and I expected to see
the new menu bar on top of the updates. But there was none.
I checked in the Control Panel tiddler > Appearance > Toolbars and noticed
that there's no Menu Bar tab in the updated TW files, which seems strange.

Therefore, I am wondering whether that's normal behavior or if there's a
problem in the updating process, that might be caused by a difference in
the language editions (all my TW files are in French). I checked in the
French forum to find if somebody else had met that problem, but that
doesn't seem to be the case.

I can't remember whether my wikis were downloaded from the standard
English-language TW webpage and the French language plugin added
afterwards, or directly in French from language edition tiddler.

Hope somebody can help me there. In the meantime, I'll try to investigate
more on that problem.

Thanks.

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[tw5] Create a shortcut

I want to create a shortcut to close a tiddler so I don't have to click on its 
X.
I found this page 
https://tiddlywiki.com/static/How%2520to%2520create%2520keyboard%2520shortcuts.html
so I created a tiddler called "my-shortcut" - see 
http://peterjb.tiddlyspot.com/.

In the instructions it says to "append a unique suffix" like my-shortcut . The 
Title box is not the right place because my tiddler does not occur in the 
Control Panel in the shortcut list, and I have not been able to find where I 
should append the suffix.

Please advise.

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

Mohammad,

I am not getting those results, I put that code into a tiddler on 
tiddlywiki.com, fill out all of the fields in the form and use the filter 
[!is[system]limit[10]] and the plugin gets the first 10 non system tiddlers.

What steps should I take to reproduce what you are getting?

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

Hi Jed,
 Wonderful! Small issue, seems tiddlers bundled in plugin all have the 
below contents

```
The <<.def jsontiddlers>> [[macro|Macros]] returns the fields of a 
[[selection of tiddlers|Title Selection]] in [[JSON|JavaScript Object 
Notation]] form.

An example can be seen in the [[template tiddler for JSON 
exports|$:/core/templates/exporters/JsonFile]].

!! Parameters

;filter
: A [[filter|Filters]] selecting which tiddlers to include
;spaces
: An optional number of spaces to use for formatting the JSON. Defaults to 
4, with blank or zero resulting in packed JSON with no formatting spaces

```





On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 1:59:35 PM UTC+4:30, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Making a plugin in a single file wiki is simple, put this in a tiddler 
> then fill out the form, the filter is the filter for what you want to 
> package in the plugin:
>
> ```
> \define plugintext()
> {
> "tiddlers": {<$list 
> filter='[subfilter{$:/state/MakePlugin!!filter}]+[bl[]]'>
> "<$view field=title format=jsencoded/>": <$text text=< "jsontiddlers Macro">>/>,
> 
> <$list filter='[subfilter{$:/state/MakePlugin!!filter}]+[last[]]'>
> "<$view field=title format=jsencoded/>": <$text text=< "jsontiddlers Macro">>/>
> }
> }
> \end
>
> Name: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/MakePlugin' field='name' 
> class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>
> Filter: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/MakePlugin' field='filter' 
> class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>
> Description: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/MakePlugin' field='description' 
> class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>
> List: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/MakePlugin' field='list' 
> class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>
> Version: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/MakePlugin' field='version' 
> class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>
>
> <$button>
> Make Plugin
> <$wikify name=pluginText text="<>">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler={{$:/state/MakePlugin!!name}} 
> text=<> type='application/json' 
> description={{$:/state/MakePlugin!!description}} core-version=">=5.0.0" 
> dependents="" list={{$:/state/MakePlugin!!list}} plugin-type="plugin" 
> version={{$:/state/MakePlugin!!version}}/>
> 
> 
> ```
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

2020-04-19 Thread Jan


Hi Mat, Hi Tony, Hi Mohammad!
I would like to reduce the number of necessary clicks for possible users 
as much as possible.
Jed alread furnished a very valuable tool with the bundeler - but this 
still is three clicks before you really can work with the content and 
thus too much for an average end-user.
As I pointed out in your following thread, I would love to have one 
click which allows you to import and use the content.
Therefore I would invest time take to prepare packages. But if it were 
possible to create the downloadable content dynamically like with the 
bundles this would of course be even better.


Yours


Am 19.04.2020 um 07:38 schrieb Mat:
Tony, that's some neat buttons ...but it requires that you click the 
button in the /source/ tiddler. One main point with an import library 
is that you don't leave your wiki.


@Jan, do you even imagine your source to be in the form of tiddlers 
before they're imported?


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[tw5] Re: Library as sidebar, listing external content?

I think that naming it anything other than Sidebrary would be irresponsible.

the answer to all the other questions should be yes, and I think that this 
could be a great idea.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Library as sidebar, listing external content?

2020-04-19 Thread Jan

Hi dear fellow-tiddleurs ;-)
Thanks for triggering the very usefull next stage of the debate: How
could we use this new possibility.

Of course the Idea of the sidebrary is very usefull.
My dream is to have an action-widget that I could integrate into a
button together with a series of actions that I could at the same time
import the new content and use it (If there is no .js involved).

Like loading a vocabularyset *and* starting a quiz with one click.

Yours Jan

Am 19.04.2020 um 09:55 schrieb Mohammad:

Great idea Mat!
This will make life much easier!

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:35:58 AM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:

In another thread
,
/fellow tiddleur/ Jan asked a question which gave me an idea:

Could a sidebar list, with seemingly regular title lists, really
be a plugin library listing?

Clicking the tab is equal to opening the library and the listed
titles are tiddlers that are not really in the wiki yet but
clicking a title imports it!

...and would those tiddlers really even have to be tiddlers? For
example could they be images or other file types that are
importable to TW?

...and would this /have/ to be called a Sidebrary?

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

To get the content for the files in a plugin library you can use this 
tiddler. Paste this into a tiddler and fill out the from. Unfortunately 
here you have to save the files manually by copying and pasting the text 
into the files indicated in the tiddler, I never got around to making an 
exporter that would put everything in the correct place. In this one the 
filter has to list only the plugin tiddlers that you want included in the 
library, trying to include non-plugin tiddlers will break things.

\define oneTiddler()
 <$list
   filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
 >
   
   "<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view 
tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>",
 
 <$list
   filter='[fields[]] -text +[bl[]]'
 >
   
   "<$view field='title' jsencoded/>": "<$view 
tiddler=<> field=<> format=jsencoded/>"
 
\end

\define jsonListing()
[
<$list
 filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[bl[]]'
 variable=theTiddler
>
 {
 <>
 
 },
 

<$list
 filter='[subfilter{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}] +[last[]]'
 variable=theTiddler
>
 {
 <>
 
 }
 

]
\end

This packages the plugins returned by this filter into the format needed by 
a plugin library.

The file structure needs to be:

*Library Folder
** recipes
*** library
 tiddlers
* //individual tiddler json files//
 tiddlers.json
** index.html

filter: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/PluginLibrary' field=filter/>


!! tiddlers.json

''filename:'' tiddlers.json

''contents:''

<>

!! Tiddler JSON files:

<$list filter={{$:/state/PluginLibrary!!filter}}>

---
''filename:'' <$view field='title' format='urlencoded'/>.json

''contents:''

<$text text=<>/>


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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

Making a plugin in a single file wiki is simple, put this in a tiddler then 
fill out the form, the filter is the filter for what you want to package in 
the plugin:

```
\define plugintext()
{
"tiddlers": {<$list 
filter='[subfilter{$:/state/MakePlugin!!filter}]+[bl[]]'>
"<$view field=title format=jsencoded/>": <$text text=<>/>,

<$list filter='[subfilter{$:/state/MakePlugin!!filter}]+[last[]]'>
"<$view field=title format=jsencoded/>": <$text text=<>/>
}
}
\end

Name: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/MakePlugin' field='name' 
class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>
Filter: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/MakePlugin' field='filter' 
class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>
Description: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/MakePlugin' field='description' 
class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>
List: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/MakePlugin' field='list' 
class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>
Version: <$edit-text tiddler='$:/state/MakePlugin' field='version' 
class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>

<$button>
Make Plugin
<$wikify name=pluginText text="<>">
<$action-setfield $tiddler={{$:/state/MakePlugin!!name}} 
text=<> type='application/json' 
description={{$:/state/MakePlugin!!description}} core-version=">=5.0.0" 
dependents="" list={{$:/state/MakePlugin!!list}} plugin-type="plugin" 
version={{$:/state/MakePlugin!!version}}/>


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[tw5] Share plugin doesn't work - am I doing something wrong?

I don't get the Share plugin to work. Here's my attempt:

http://sharetest.tiddlyspot.com/

I was expecting to be able to generate a sharelink that points to 
tiddlywiki.com/empty and have my new tiddler ( "This is a shared tiddler" ) 
appear there.

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: A Portable Tiddlywiki Node.Js on a Thumb Drive

I had a look at the Twexe for windows it needs upgrading to 5.1.22 and I can't 
yet work out how to do this. It works as desired already.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Demo: SVG live editor

2020-04-19 Thread A Gloom

Another svg animation for your library-- see attached tiddler -- sorry, 
you'll have to clean up the code to match the code style for your editor.

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Description: Binary data

Re: [tw5] Re: A Portable Tiddlywiki Node.Js on a Thumb Drive

Further to the instruction by Arlen one can download simplesrv

https://github.com/lucsan/simpserv


and create a readonly webserver to fire any single .html Tiddlywiki.

So, it possible to have a portable webserver for Tiddlywiki (and holding 
plugin libraries) on a thumb drive
The size of server 14MB if one use Node.JS 6.x

In summary

1. Follow the instruction by Arlen above, lets you have a tiny 
NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server (read/write/save) + (Arlen may guide us to create 
backup)
2. Add the simpleserv above to have a readonly webserver on another port
3. Put all in folder on a thumb drive

The above setup is small and can be used on Raspberry Pi and similar device.

I am thinking  one can put whole of these on an old Android cell phone and 
setup a portable NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server



On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 1:23:32 AM UTC+4:30, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Another way is to download the zip file from NodeJS.org, and copy the 
> node.exe file into the tiddlywiki folder, then (on windows) run "node.exe 
> tiddlywiki.js". You can download the tiddlywiki folder from GitHub. It 
> sounds like that is slightly more complicated than your method, but just 
> thought I'd mention it. 
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:01 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> If you use "-g", isn't it putting the data down in your user drive? Or is 
>> it smart enough to put it all on the thumb drive ?
>>
>> Plus, in the past, node had a habit of creating empty directories in the 
>> app/roaming directories even if you had specified specific local 
>> directories. This would be hard to detect unless you test on a machine that 
>> has never used node.js at all. That is, is it possible that bread crumbs 
>> are being left even if you use a portable device?
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> You may like to have a Tiddlywiki on Node.js with all its features on a 
>>> thumb drive!
>>> Or a Plug and Play Tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>> If so, this is a short instruction for Windows user. 
>>>
>>> 1. Download the portable Node.js:  (NodeJSPortable_6.14.2.zip)  from here
>>>   https://github.com/garethflowers/nodejs-portable/releases
>>>
>>> 2. Unzip on your thumb drive in the folder of choice
>>>
>>> 3. Run NodeJSPortable.exe   
>>>
>>> 4. In the command window appears install Tiddlywiki with below command 
>>> (you need internet access)
>>> npm install -g tiddlywiki
>>>
>>> 5. That's all
>>>
>>>
>>> Make a test
>>> 1. Create a new wiki, by entering  below command
>>> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server
>>>
>>> 2. Run your wiki by entering  below command
>>> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --listen
>>>
>>> 3. Open a browser (FF, Chrome, Edge, Safari, ...) and
>>>  visit http://127.0.0.1:8080/ in your browser
>>>
>>>
>>> It has all the same features as Tiddlywiki on NodeJS, plus, it leaves no 
>>> personal information behind on the machine you run it on, so you can take 
>>> it with you wherever you go.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is another journey in Tiddlywiki wonderland.
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Library as sidebar, listing external content?

Great idea Mat!
This will make life much easier!

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:35:58 AM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>
> In another thread 
> , 
> *fellow 
> tiddleur* Jan asked a question which gave me an idea:
>
> Could a sidebar list, with seemingly regular title lists, really be a 
> plugin library listing?
>
> Clicking the tab is equal to opening the library and the listed titles are 
> tiddlers that are not really in the wiki yet but clicking a title imports 
> it!
>
> ...and would those tiddlers really even have to be tiddlers? For example 
> could they be images or other file types that are importable to TW?
>
> ...and would this *have* to be called a Sidebrary?
>
> <:-)
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

Mat

My example was more showing untapped hacks of imports plugins and packaging. We 
can design a template to generate libraries and export them and possibly import 
the link to the library.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?

Mohamad

My example in this thread hints packaging into plugins can be done in single 
file wikis very simply. I have already made alternate plugin type simply by 
giving a json tiddler a new plugin-type field value. How do I get a json 
tiddler? Just drop some tiddlers on a wiki and rename $:/import and change its 
fields.

If you look at my example you can import a tiddler that imports tiddlers.

Regards
Tony 

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[tw5] Re: copying a tiddler content to the clipboard

2020-04-19 Thread A Gloom

I have done the same as Thomas for a search feature for TW system icons-- 
first one copies the icon tiddler title, the second copies the tiddler 
content. Below them is notes on the variations of the copy to clipboard 
feature. Everything is also included in tid files that can be imported into 
a TW to experiment with or use as reference.

Search for system icons, copy of title:
<$edit-text tiddler='$:/temp/sysiconssearch' field='searchterm' 
placeholder='search term' tag='input' type='text'/><$button 
class="tc-btn-rounded"  style="margin-left:10px;">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/sysiconssearch" searchterm="" />
{{$:/core/images/close-button}}

<$reveal type='nomatch' state='$:/temp/sysiconssearch!!searchterm' text=''>
<$set name='searchterm' value={{$:/temp/sysiconssearch!!searchterm}}>

<$list 
filter="[all[tiddlers+shadows]tag[$:/tags/Image]prefix[$:/core]search:title]">
<$transclude/>  ^^---^^ <$link><$view field="title"/> 
 <$macrocall $name="copy-to-clipboard" 
src=<>/>




Search for system icons, copy of tiddler content:
<$edit-text tiddler='$:/temp/sysiconssearch' field='searchterm' 
placeholder='search term' tag='input' type='text'/><$button 
class="tc-btn-rounded"  style="margin-left:10px;">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/sysiconssearch" searchterm="" />
{{$:/core/images/close-button}}

<$reveal type='nomatch' state='$:/temp/sysiconssearch!!searchterm' text=''>
<$set name='searchterm' value={{$:/temp/sysiconssearch!!searchterm}}>

<$list 
filter="[all[tiddlers+shadows]tag[$:/tags/Image]prefix[$:/core]search:title]">
<$transclude/>  ^^---^^ <$link><$view field="title"/> 
 <$macrocall $name="copy-to-clipboard" src={{!!text}}/>




Copy to clipboard variantations

// copy-to-clipboard cannot handle backticks 
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/4EPOIsVDfVY/discussion //

`<>`

 __simple macro__ //( doesn't have closing / )//:
`<>` -- <>

 __macrocall (for lists)__:

* copies title:
`<$macrocall $name="copy-to-clipboard" src=<> 
class="tc-btn-rounded"/>` -- <$macrocall $name="copy-to-clipboard" 
src=<> class="tc-btn-rounded"/>

* copies text field:
`<$macrocall $name="copy-to-clipboard" src={!!text}} 
class="tc-btn-rounded"/>` -- <$macrocall $name="copy-to-clipboard" 
src={{!!text}} class="tc-btn-rounded"/>

 __button w/ "tm-copy-to-clipboard" action message__:

* w/ macro or custom macro w/ multi-lined text to be copied:
`<$button message="tm-copy-to-clipboard" param=<>>Copy date to 
clipboard` -- -- <$button message="tm-copy-to-clipboard" 
param=<>>Copy date to clipboard

* w/ text field copy :
`<$button message="tm-copy-to-clipboard" param={{!!text}}>Copy to 
clipboard` -- -- <$button message="tm-copy-to-clipboard" 
param={{!!text}}>Copy to clipboard

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[tw5] Re: HEY NOOB! - do ya know THE FIRST RULE?

Birthe,

It looks like the problem is with Bob, not you. I must have broken that 
with some other change I made, I am fixing it now.

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[tw5] Library as sidebar, listing external content?

In another thread 
, *fellow 
tiddleur* Jan asked a question which gave me an idea:

Could a sidebar list, with seemingly regular title lists, really be a 
plugin library listing?

Clicking the tab is equal to opening the library and the listed titles are 
tiddlers that are not really in the wiki yet but clicking a title imports 
it!

...and would those tiddlers really even have to be tiddlers? For example 
could they be images or other file types that are importable to TW?

...and would this *have* to be called a Sidebrary?

<:-)

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Re: Re: [tw5] Saving TW - see my Tiddlyspot tiddler

Birthe, I **do** do my best to sort things at my end. It may not always seem 
that way, but I honestly do.
Like I said at the end of the other thread, I will post tiddlers on Tiddlyspot 
from now on.
Thanks again for your help.

19 Apr 2020, 09:13 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com:

> Peter,
>
> That was some very good news, well done.
> I think others have had problems getting rid of everything TD, we do not need 
> to use a MAC to get into this.
> Everything is s easy (until it is not ;-)
>
> Birthe
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Re: [tw5] Re: Filter

Thanks Birthe, that worked.
I will from now on upload tiddlers when asking questions like this.

19 Apr 2020, 08:15 by strikkeglad...@gmail.com:

> Peter,
>
> I would be good if you uploaded you tiddlers when asking questions like this. 
> Having to create lots of tiddlers with guessed fields and values to test a 
> filter takes quite some time.
>
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]each[swimmer]sort[swimmer]get[swimmer]]" 
> variable=value >
> __<> > >__> 
> <$list filter='[all[tiddlers]swimmer> > sort[]]'>
>
> 
> 
> Birthe 
>
>
> søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 06.31.14 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
>
>> Mat, I did not say there is a field called "name"; I said there is a field 
>> value that I type a name in, and that name varies from tiddler to tiddler, 
>> though some tiddlers have a name (i.e. field value) in common.
>>
>> The name of the field is "swimmer" - I should have said that before. My 
>> apologies.
>>
>> Like I said, your suggested macro resulted in a list of all the swimmers' 
>> names, except that if there are e.g. 3 tiddlers with swimmer's name John, 
>> your list results in John 3 times, whereas I just want John mentioned once 
>> with the 3 tiddler titles shown below his name.
>>
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Re: Re: [tw5] Saving TW - see my Tiddlyspot tiddler

Peter,

That was some very good news, well done.
I think others have had problems getting rid of everything TD, we do not 
need to use a MAC to get into this.
Everything is s easy (until it is not ;-)

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to host a Plugin-Library for content?