Re: [twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mat

> On 20 Jun 2019, at 00:42, Mat  wrote:
> 
> Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> 
> You can contribute to the prerelease by sending a pull request to the 
> “master” branch. To contribute docs changes to the current release the pull 
> request needs to be sent to the “tiddlywiki-com” branch.
> 
> I did not know this - but in that case, couldn't the "Edit this tidder on 
> GitHub"-link automatically link/lead to the correct one?

The “edit this tiddler” links default to making a PR on the tiddlywiki-com 
branch. That’s what’s needed for simple, immediate documentation updates that 
aren’t tied to the next release. Documentation for the next release should 
target the “master” branch, which you’ll need to manually change if using the 
“edit this tiddler” links.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[Mohammad]

Hi Jeremy,
It was a request from users to improve the TOC macro.
I wish to have the *exclude *parameter working in 5.1.20
The PR was by PMario here: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3975

--Mohammad


On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 9:19:46 PM UTC+4:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’d like to try to get v5.1.20 released in the next week or two. With that 
> in mind, I’d be grateful for assistance in testing and verifying the latest 
> build:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>
> In particular, this is a great time for plugin developers/users to test 
> the new release with important plugins and let us know if there are any 
> backwards compatibility issues. 
>
> Even by TW5 standards, it’s been a long delay since the last release in 
> December. That’s entirely my fault, but I’d like to try to avoid delaying 
> the release with any further pull requests. Having said that, if you’re 
> responsible for any unmerged PRs that you believe are ready to be merged 
> then please do let me know.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>

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[twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[Mat]

TonyM wrote:
>
> I Edit the tiddler then "this tiddler on GitHub" I get a 404 Error
>

That's strange. Just as an experiment, here's a direct link to HelloThere 
on gh 
,
 
i.e as accessed when I clicked on "edit this tiddler on gh.."

Just a note: It is not meaningful to edit it while on the tiddlywiki server 
as it will not transfer. What happens when the link works is you see the 
raw (rather hard to read) tiddler there where you must make your changes.

<:-)

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Re: [twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[Mat]

Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>
> You can contribute to the prerelease by sending a pull request to the 
> “master” branch. To contribute docs changes to the current release the pull 
> request needs to be sent to the “tiddlywiki-com” branch.
>

I did not know this - but in that case, couldn't the "Edit this tidder on 
GitHub"-link automatically link/lead to the correct one?

<:-)

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[twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[TonyM]

Mat,


> What happens when you click the "this tiddler on GitHub" link? You should 
> come to the gh editor showing that tiddler.
>
>
For example here https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#untrunc%20Operator 
I Edit the tiddler then "this tiddler on GitHub" I get a 404 Error

Regards
Tony

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Re: [twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mat


> Unless I misunderstand something basic; You can only contribute to the 
> prerelease edition. Once Big J makes the actual release, that is what 
> replaces what is on tiddlywiki.com.  

You can contribute to the prerelease by sending a pull request to the “master” 
branch. To contribute docs changes to the current release the pull request 
needs to be sent to the “tiddlywiki-com” branch.

Best wishes

Jeremy


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[twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[Mat]

TonyM wrote:
>
> In this case I am contributing to the documentation that will appear on 
> tiddlywiki.com when the release is made.
>
> But how would I contribute a change to the release itself?
>

Unless I misunderstand something basic; You can only contribute to the 
prerelease edition. Once Big J makes the actual release, that is what 
replaces what is on tiddlywiki.com.  

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[twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[TonyM]

Jeremy,

I wish to contribute directly to this release and have being involved in 
many discussions. 

However when I am on https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/# I cant get the
"Can you help us improve this documentation? Find out how 
 
to edit this tiddler on GitHub 

"
to work.

In this case I am contributing to the documentation that will appear on 
tiddlywiki.com when the release is made.

But how would I contribute a change to the release itself?

One example may be the observation that the following tiddlers should be 
tagged with  [[String Operators]]

[[join Operator]]
lowercase
split
splitregexp
trim
uppercase

I have being installing items on the pre-release, and testing new features 
and more with no issues so far.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 2:49:46 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’d like to try to get v5.1.20 released in the next week or two. With that 
> in mind, I’d be grateful for assistance in testing and verifying the latest 
> build:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>
> In particular, this is a great time for plugin developers/users to test 
> the new release with important plugins and let us know if there are any 
> backwards compatibility issues. 
>
> Even by TW5 standards, it’s been a long delay since the last release in 
> December. That’s entirely my fault, but I’d like to try to avoid delaying 
> the release with any further pull requests. Having said that, if you’re 
> responsible for any unmerged PRs that you believe are ready to be merged 
> then please do let me know.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>

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Re: [twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[bimlas]

I'm very sorry, but it was a false alarm, 
see https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3998#issuecomment-503312664

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Re: [twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Bimlas

Thanks, that’s very helpful. This may get quite involved so I’ve created a 
GitHub ticket for further discussion:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3998 


Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 18 Jun 2019, at 11:29, bimlas  wrote:
> 
> The results of the first two case are above, so I just doing the test again 
> on prerelease with disabled indexing:
> 
> Chrome:
> Prerelease
> mainRefresh: 1206.61ms
> (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; invocations 3; 
> avgTime 300.819991727; totalTime 902.45997518; percentTime 
> 82.29843968466753
> Firefox
> Prerelease
> mainRefresh: 1141.00ms
> (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; invocations 3; 
> avgTime 275; totalTime 825; percentTime 47.79837775202781
> The results of Firefox are almost the same, but percentTime differs a much! 
> Tried to run the filter again multiple times (indexing still disabled):
> 
> Chrome:
> Prerelease
> mainRefresh: 1285.50ms 
> (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; invocations 15; 
> avgTime 523.386669201; totalTime 7850.80003801; percentTime 
> 88.23785602723082
> Firefox
> Prerelease
> mainRefresh: 1078.00ms
> (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; invocations 15; 
> avgTime 376.94; totalTime 5654; percentTime 81.83528730641193
> 
> 
> 2019. június 18., kedd 10:59:26 UTC+2 időpontban Jeremy Ruston a következőt 
> írta:
> Hi Bimlas
> 
> Thanks for the report, that’s very helpful.
> 
> There’s quite a lot that’s changed between v5.1.19 and the current 
> prerelease, not just the indexing. One quick thing to try might be to make 
> some more timings while manually enabling and disabling the indexing 
> mechanism in the prerelease.
> 
> The easiest way to disable the indexing is to overwrite the following two 
> tiddlers with new tiddlers that don’t have a module-type field:
> 
> $:/core/modules/indexers/field-indexer.js
> $:/core/modules/indexers/tag-indexer.js
> 
> Then we’d be able to compare three timings:
> 
> * v5.1.19
> * v5.1.20-prerelease (including indexing)
> * v5.1.20-prerelease (without indexing)
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
>> On 18 Jun 2019, at 07:30, bimlas gmail.com > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe it's just the plugin's fault, but it seems that for some reason the 
>> Kin filter is slower on prerelease (heavily using cache mechanism). I don't 
>> know if it's a new indexing system or a performance log issue.
>> 
>> The code of the filter: 
>> https://github.com/bimlas/tw5-kin-filter/blob/66e2cbbf85761daa4c33e9c422db0fce3b6ea6f9/plugins/kin-filter/kin.js
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Steps of testing:
>> Download current and prerelease
>> Install Kin filter from https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-kin-filter/ 
>> 
>> Enable performance instrumentation
>> Save and reload wikis
>> Close all opened tiddlers and open "Open" sidebar
>> Open Developer Tools Console
>> Use "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]" filter in Advanced Search
>> Results for me on Windows:
>> Chrome 75.0.3770.90
>> Current:
>> mainRefresh: 861.93ms 
>> +filter: 691.76ms
>> Prerelease
>> mainRefresh: 1317.06ms 
>> (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; invocations 3; 
>> avgTime 331.3600013155; totalTime 994.080003946; percentTime 
>> 78.02397042426841
>> Firefox 67.0.2
>> Current
>> mainRefresh: 890.00ms
>> +filter: 657.00ms 
>> Prerelease
>> mainRefresh: 1108.00ms 
>> (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; invocations 3; 
>> avgTime 270; totalTime 810; percentTime 71.87222715173026
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Re: [twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[bimlas]

The results of the first two case are above, so I just doing the test again 
on prerelease with disabled indexing:


   - Chrome:
  - Prerelease
 - mainRefresh: 1206.61ms
 - (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; 
 invocations 3; avgTime 300.819991727; totalTime 902.45997518; 
 percentTime 82.29843968466753
 - Firefox
  - Prerelease
 - mainRefresh: 1141.00ms
 - (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; 
 invocations 3; avgTime 275; totalTime 825; percentTime 
 47.79837775202781
 
The results of Firefox are almost the same, but percentTime differs a much! 
Tried to run the filter again multiple times (indexing still disabled):


   - Chrome:
  - Prerelease
 - mainRefresh: 1285.50ms 
 - (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; 
 invocations 15; avgTime 523.386669201; totalTime 
7850.80003801; 
 percentTime 88.23785602723082
 - Firefox
  - Prerelease
 - mainRefresh: 1078.00ms
 - (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; 
 invocations 15; avgTime 376.94; totalTime 5654; 
 percentTime 81.83528730641193
  


2019. június 18., kedd 10:59:26 UTC+2 időpontban Jeremy Ruston a következőt 
írta:
>
> Hi Bimlas
>
> Thanks for the report, that’s very helpful.
>
> There’s quite a lot that’s changed between v5.1.19 and the current 
> prerelease, not just the indexing. One quick thing to try might be to make 
> some more timings while manually enabling and disabling the indexing 
> mechanism in the prerelease.
>
> The easiest way to disable the indexing is to overwrite the following two 
> tiddlers with new tiddlers that don’t have a module-type field:
>
> $:/core/modules/indexers/field-indexer.js
> $:/core/modules/indexers/tag-indexer.js
>
> Then we’d be able to compare three timings:
>
> * v5.1.19
> * v5.1.20-prerelease (including indexing)
> * v5.1.20-prerelease (without indexing)
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On 18 Jun 2019, at 07:30, bimlas > wrote:
>
> Maybe it's just the plugin's fault, but it seems that for some reason the 
> Kin filter is slower on prerelease (heavily using cache mechanism). I don't 
> know if it's a new indexing system or a performance log issue.
>
> The code of the filter: 
> https://github.com/bimlas/tw5-kin-filter/blob/66e2cbbf85761daa4c33e9c422db0fce3b6ea6f9/plugins/kin-filter/kin.js
>
> Steps of testing:
>
>- Download current and prerelease
>- Install Kin filter from https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-kin-filter/
>- Enable performance instrumentation
>- Save and reload wikis
>- Close all opened tiddlers and open "Open" sidebar
>- Open Developer Tools Console
>- Use "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]" filter in Advanced Search
>
> Results for me on Windows:
>
>- Chrome 75.0.3770.90
>   - Current:
>  - mainRefresh: 861.93ms 
>  - +filter: 691.76ms
>   - Prerelease
>  - mainRefresh: 1317.06ms 
>  - (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; 
>  invocations 3; avgTime 331.3600013155; totalTime 
> 994.080003946; 
>  percentTime 78.02397042426841
>  - Firefox 67.0.2
>   - Current
>  - 
>  - mainRefresh: 890.00ms
>  - +filter: 657.00ms 
>   - Prerelease
>  - mainRefresh: 1108.00ms 
>  - 
>  - (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; 
>  invocations 3; avgTime 270; totalTime 810; percentTime 
> 71.87222715173026
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Re: [twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Bimlas

Thanks for the report, that’s very helpful.

There’s quite a lot that’s changed between v5.1.19 and the current prerelease, 
not just the indexing. One quick thing to try might be to make some more 
timings while manually enabling and disabling the indexing mechanism in the 
prerelease.

The easiest way to disable the indexing is to overwrite the following two 
tiddlers with new tiddlers that don’t have a module-type field:

$:/core/modules/indexers/field-indexer.js
$:/core/modules/indexers/tag-indexer.js

Then we’d be able to compare three timings:

* v5.1.19
* v5.1.20-prerelease (including indexing)
* v5.1.20-prerelease (without indexing)

Many thanks,

Jeremy.

> On 18 Jun 2019, at 07:30, bimlas  wrote:
> 
> Maybe it's just the plugin's fault, but it seems that for some reason the Kin 
> filter is slower on prerelease (heavily using cache mechanism). I don't know 
> if it's a new indexing system or a performance log issue.
> 
> The code of the filter: 
> https://github.com/bimlas/tw5-kin-filter/blob/66e2cbbf85761daa4c33e9c422db0fce3b6ea6f9/plugins/kin-filter/kin.js
> 
> Steps of testing:
> Download current and prerelease
> Install Kin filter from https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-kin-filter/
> Enable performance instrumentation
> Save and reload wikis
> Close all opened tiddlers and open "Open" sidebar
> Open Developer Tools Console
> Use "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]" filter in Advanced Search
> Results for me on Windows:
> Chrome 75.0.3770.90
> Current:
> mainRefresh: 861.93ms 
> +filter: 691.76ms
> Prerelease
> mainRefresh: 1317.06ms 
> (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; invocations 3; 
> avgTime 331.3600013155; totalTime 994.080003946; percentTime 
> 78.02397042426841
> Firefox 67.0.2
> Current
> mainRefresh: 890.00ms
> +filter: 657.00ms 
> Prerelease
> mainRefresh: 1108.00ms 
> (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; invocations 3; 
> avgTime 270; totalTime 810; percentTime 71.87222715173026
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[twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[bimlas]

Maybe it's just the plugin's fault, but it seems that for some reason the 
Kin filter is slower on prerelease (heavily using cache mechanism). I don't 
know if it's a new indexing system or a performance log issue.

The code of the 
filter: 
https://github.com/bimlas/tw5-kin-filter/blob/66e2cbbf85761daa4c33e9c422db0fce3b6ea6f9/plugins/kin-filter/kin.js

Steps of testing:

   - Download current and prerelease
   - Install Kin filter from https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-kin-filter/
   - Enable performance instrumentation
   - Save and reload wikis
   - Close all opened tiddlers and open "Open" sidebar
   - Open Developer Tools Console
   - Use "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]" filter in Advanced Search

Results for me on Windows:

   - Chrome 75.0.3770.90
  - Current:
 - mainRefresh: 861.93ms 
 - +filter: 691.76ms
  - Prerelease
 - mainRefresh: 1317.06ms 
 - (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; 
 invocations 3; avgTime 331.3600013155; totalTime 
994.080003946; 
 percentTime 78.02397042426841
 - Firefox 67.0.2
  - Current
 - 
 - mainRefresh: 890.00ms
 - +filter: 657.00ms 
  - Prerelease
 - mainRefresh: 1108.00ms 
 - 
 - (from $tw.perf.log()) filter "[kin::to[TableOfContents]]"; 
 invocations 3; avgTime 270; totalTime 810; percentTime 
71.87222715173026
  

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[twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[MidnightLightning]

Thanks Jeremy!
My pull request (https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3876) for 
changing the Markdown plugin to use the Remarkable rendering library has 
been hanging out there for a while now, and I think it only needs a final 
ACK? I noticed pull request #3271 is also with regard to the Markdown 
renderer (and I think switching to the Remarkable library handles that use 
case too). Could this be considered for the upgrade? Or what else should be 
done there to make it ready?



On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 11:49:46 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’d like to try to get v5.1.20 released in the next week or two. With that 
> in mind, I’d be grateful for assistance in testing and verifying the latest 
> build:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>
> In particular, this is a great time for plugin developers/users to test 
> the new release with important plugins and let us know if there are any 
> backwards compatibility issues. 
>
> Even by TW5 standards, it’s been a long delay since the last release in 
> December. That’s entirely my fault, but I’d like to try to avoid delaying 
> the release with any further pull requests. Having said that, if you’re 
> responsible for any unmerged PRs that you believe are ready to be merged 
> then please do let me know.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>

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[twdev] Re: First call for planned release of v5.1.20

[@TiddlyTweeter]

IMO December to June is FINE.

Its more for me about just checking for backwards compatibility on my fav 
plugins. Usually everything works. If they don't I'll say. I never needed 
to yet.

I guess as the system gets more complex chances of breakdown increase?

A view
Josiah

On Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:49:46 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’d like to try to get v5.1.20 released in the next week or two. With that 
> in mind, I’d be grateful for assistance in testing and verifying the latest 
> build:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>
> In particular, this is a great time for plugin developers/users to test 
> the new release with important plugins and let us know if there are any 
> backwards compatibility issues. 
>
> Even by TW5 standards, it’s been a long delay since the last release in 
> December. That’s entirely my fault, but I’d like to try to avoid delaying 
> the release with any further pull requests. Having said that, if you’re 
> responsible for any unmerged PRs that you believe are ready to be merged 
> then please do let me know.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>

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