Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Norris Shelton
-deployed... Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Johannes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:43 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: TC 5 production use hi there, I saw TC5.0.18 is marked stable on the Tomcat-Website (production

RE: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Shapira, Yoav
5 production use hi there, I saw TC5.0.18 is marked stable on the Tomcat-Website (production quality). Is anybody using TC 5.0.x in production already ? Did any remarkable issues arise? thx Johannes This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication

RE: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Evgeny Gesin
, I do deploy and run only packed WARs, nothing reloadable or auto-deployed... Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Johannes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:43 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: TC 5 production use

RE: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi, I use Apache in front of Tomcat a long ago and see no problems? BTW, Apache executes all static content, such as image files. Why you don't recommend Apache? Again, that's not what I said. You just have to evaluate your requirements carefully. Various factors like the content mix (%static

RE: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Evgeny Gesin
Hi, --- Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, that's not what I said. You just have to evaluate your requirements carefully. Various factors like the content mix (%static vs. %dynamic), scalability requirements, SSL load, and others all figure into this decision. Apache is web

Re: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Daniel Gibby
If only tomcat had the mod_rewrite capabilities that apache does, and strong perl and php performance, I would be glad to trash mod_jk (thus getting rid of apache as well). Are there any good rewrite-like capabilities available for URL matching / rewriting that someone could share? I'm sure a

Re: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Josh Rehman
Daniel Gibby wrote: If only tomcat had the mod_rewrite capabilities that apache does, and strong perl and php performance, I would be glad to trash mod_jk (thus getting rid of apache as well). Would this work for you as a mod_rewrite replacement? http://noodle.tigris.org/ (perl php support

RE: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi, Apache is web server, but Tomcat is not, while Tomcat is a web server: all that a piece of software needs to do in order to be a web server is implement the HTTP protocol, which tomcat does. It is not a problem with JK connector, I don't use JK2. It's not a problem for you, and not for

RE: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi, If only tomcat had the mod_rewrite capabilities that apache does, and strong perl and php performance, I would be glad to trash mod_jk (thus getting rid of apache as well). This is a good example of something that hits on Apache's strong points: perl, mod_php, rewriting. So it's probably

Re: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Daniel Gibby
Also, I definitely don't want to be changing the configuration whenever I have a new partner that needs another cobranded version of the webapp (meaning I would need to give them their own hostname or subdomain... Can tomcat be setup to allow a VirtualHost to accept multiple domain names?

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RE: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi, (perl php support in any servlet container seems...unlikely :) PHP, not so unlikely ;) http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-tomcat/UsingPhp http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-devm=108099227127507w=2 http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223 As for perl, you can do it through CGI. Yoav

RE: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi, Is Tomcat considered to *be* a web server vs *having* a web server? I thought the HTTP connector was the way to connect HTTP clients (browsers) to the JSP/Servlet container. Purely a philosophical question IMHO ;) Technically, a piece of software that can respond to HTTP requests per the

Re: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Parsons Technical Services
PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: Re: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use Also, I definitely don't want to be changing the configuration whenever I have a new partner that needs another cobranded version of the webapp (meaning I would need

Re: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Josh Rehman
Shapira, Yoav wrote: Hi, (perl php support in any servlet container seems...unlikely :) PHP, not so unlikely ;) http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-tomcat/UsingPhp Fascinating - I'd love to know what the web.xml looks like and what the server looks like. I'd guess the php servlet is a very simple

Re: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Parsons Technical Services
to press delete. Doug - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use Is Tomcat considered to *be* a web server vs *having* a web server? I thought the HTTP connector was the way

Re: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Remy Maucherat
Norris Shelton wrote: What are you thoughts on a JBoss 4 setup? Do you still recommend staying away from Apache? JBoss 4 is alpha for now. I recommend trying JBoss 3.2.4 RC 1 if you want something more stable. -- x Rémy Maucherat Developer Consultant JBoss Group

RE: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Mladen Turk
-Original Message- From: Josh Rehman (perl php support in any servlet container seems...unlikely :) But don't put your money on it. Perhaps we'll surprise few peoples :-) MT. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Yoav --RE: TC 5 production use

2004-04-09 Thread Denis Haskin
Also keep in mind that Apache isn't the *only* thing you can put in front of Tomcat. grin While we do have Apache in the mix (for some legacy apps), we also run Squid [1] in reverse-proxy mode in front of *that* to (a) reduce response time on cachable content and (b) remove some of the load

RE: TC 5 production use

2004-02-09 Thread fachhochschule.burkhart
Yoav Shapira wrote: Howdy, I'm using it in production, no issues. But then again I steer clear of the practices that tend to cause issues frequently: I don't redeploy my apps in production (when I ship a new version I do so during our maintenance window and restart the server), I profile

RE: TC 5 production use

2004-02-09 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, I see. Do you have a large internal user base then? It doesn't sound like a classic production use server if you're not even using the standard ports. Other people have already replied as to why the above assumption is invalid. We have other things (portals mostly, but also some

Re: TC 5 production use

2004-02-09 Thread Vitor Buitoni
Only for port redirection you don't need to buy any hardware. If you are running tomcat inside a linux box, you can configure iptables to do the port redirection. Everything via software, no hardware. Vitor David Wall wrote: We run Tomcat on 8080 using Cisco Routers for port redirection.

Re: TC 5 production use -- iptables to make it work without root

2004-02-09 Thread David Wall
Only for port redirection you don't need to buy any hardware. If you are running tomcat inside a linux box, you can configure iptables to do the port redirection. Everything via software, no hardware. Vitor You are absolutely correct. In fact, I've abandoned JSVC precisely because I can do

Re: TC 5 production use -- iptables to make it work without root

2004-02-09 Thread Evgeny Gesin
I'm curious, why don't you use Apache and JK connector? Evgeny Gesin --- David Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are absolutely correct. In fact, I've abandoned JSVC precisely because I can do this. This is great because not only do you need the extra JSVC, but you don't need to start as

Re: TC 5 production use -- iptables to make it work without root

2004-02-09 Thread David Wall
I'm curious, why don't you use Apache and JK connector? Evgeny Gesin We currently do, but we're creating a new simpler version for smaller offices and corporate departmental computing. The fewer running parts the better, and the fewer things that need to be patched going forward, the easier

Re: TC 5 production use

2004-02-07 Thread David Wall
We run Tomcat on 8080 using Cisco Routers for port redirection. Nobody has to type in a port number. Well, I agree that would work for everyone who just buys some hardware to give the illusion of using port 80. Of course, running tomcat on port 80 itself would be nice if anybody knows

Re: TC 5 production use

2004-02-07 Thread Josh Rehman
David Wall wrote: We run Tomcat on 8080 using Cisco Routers for port redirection. Nobody has to type in a port number. And the best part is that we're happy to know that some more heavily used production sites are using TC 5, which was the original question and interest! Interesting how

Re: TC 5 production use

2004-02-07 Thread Evgeny Gesin
I tryed today current release TC5 and seen errors: 1. I have the following lines which run under 4.1.29 but not in TC5 (locale exists in the HttpSession !) jsp:useBean id=locale scope=session class=java.util.Locale / fmt:setLocale value=%= locale % / I got [javac] symbol : constructor Locale

Re: TC 5 production use

2004-02-07 Thread Ben Souther
On Saturday 07 February 2004 12:18 pm, you wrote: We run Tomcat on 8080 using Cisco Routers for port redirection. Nobody has to type in a port number. Well, I agree that would work for everyone who just buys some hardware to give the illusion of using port 80. Of course, running tomcat on

Re: TC 5 production use

2004-02-07 Thread Peter Lin
this practice is rather common. for a couple different reasons. 1. routers/load balancer all have redirect capability. actually not all, but most routers do. 2. running webserver on port 8080 means it doesn't require running it as a service or root user 3. hardware load balancing is more

TC 5 production use

2004-02-06 Thread Johannes
hi there, I saw TC5.0.18 is marked stable on the Tomcat-Website (production quality). Is anybody using TC 5.0.x in production already ? Did any remarkable issues arise? thx Johannes

RE: TC 5 production use

2004-02-06 Thread Shapira, Yoav
:43 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: TC 5 production use hi there, I saw TC5.0.18 is marked stable on the Tomcat-Website (production quality). Is anybody using TC 5.0.x in production already ? Did any remarkable issues arise? thx Johannes This e-mail, including any attachments

Re: TC 5 production use

2004-02-06 Thread David Wall
I'm using it in production, no issues. But then again I steer clear of the practices that tend to cause issues frequently: I don't redeploy my apps in production (when I ship a new version I do so during our maintenance window and restart the server), I profile and test carefully for memory

RE: TC 5 production use

2004-02-06 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, How do you run it in production with the security manager? I've been looking at this and can't tell how to configure JSVC to use the JVM options that specify the security manager: I don't, as we don't use port 80 for any of our apps. Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any

Re: TC 5 production use

2004-02-06 Thread David Wall
I don't, as we don't use port 80 for any of our apps. Yoav Shapira I see. Do you have a large internal user base then? It doesn't sound like a classic production use server if you're not even using the standard ports. David

Re: TC 5 production use

2004-02-06 Thread Daniel Gibby
You can have any port be the default http port. It doesn't have to be 80. If you change /etc/services and just tell tomcat or apache to listen on something else, it still works fine, and people don't have to remember the port. Right? Daniel David Wall wrote: I don't, as we don't use port 80

Re: TC 5 production use

2004-02-06 Thread David Wall
You can have any port be the default http port. It doesn't have to be 80. If you change /etc/services and just tell tomcat or apache to listen on something else, it still works fine, and people don't have to remember the port. Right? Daniel All true since no port number has to mean

Re: TC 5 production use

2004-02-06 Thread Ben Souther
We run Tomcat on 8080 using Cisco Routers for port redirection. Nobody has to type in a port number. On Friday 06 February 2004 07:11 pm, you wrote: You can have any port be the default http port. It doesn't have to be 80. If you change /etc/services and just tell tomcat or apache to