Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-31 Thread David Smith
Sorry I'm coming into this discussion so late. I tend not to read work email on weekends for my own sanity. Let's not equate IPs with users. The fact of the matter is there are a lot of places that use cable routers to share one internet IP with a number of different clients. Here in

Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-31 Thread Dakota Jack
snip Let's not equate IPs with users. The fact of the matter is there are a lot of places that use cable routers to share one internet IP with a number of different clients. /snip You probably did not have time to read all of the posts, David, but, the fact of the matter, I think everyone

Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-29 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Mark wrote: I'm just tring to see if http request that came from one IP address has more then 1 client behind it. I've seen on some webpages that My IP is displayed as both external and internal - so it means it's doable - but the question is how to get this info in Tomcat. If your local an your

Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-29 Thread Dakota Jack
snip On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:43:20 -0500, Parsons Technical Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely possible. Not as unlikely as you think. I know of shops that put a whole bunch of users on the same IP. Then there are schools that put a hundreds of classroom machines on one IP. Doug

RE: logging remote IP address

2005-01-29 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: logging remote IP address The IP address that is exposed to the public, which is the one I use, has to be different or there would be no way to get back to the client machine. Not true - the combination of IP address and PORT must

[OT]Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-29 Thread Parsons Technical Services
From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: logging remote IP address The IP address that is exposed to the public, which is the one I use, has to be different or there would be no way to get back to the client machine. Charles Wrote: Not true - the combination of IP address

Re: [OT]Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-29 Thread Dakota Jack
snip On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:58:01 -0500, Parsons Technical Services Not true - the combination of IP address and PORT must be unique, not just the IP address. This is the essence of how NAT and proxies work. /snip Yes, once again, I agree with this. Jack -- You can lead a horse to water

Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-28 Thread Mark
I'm just tring to see if http request that came from one IP address has more then 1 client behind it. I've seen on some webpages that My IP is displayed as both external and internal - so it means it's doable - but the question is how to get this info in Tomcat. --- Parsons Technical Services

Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-28 Thread Dakota Jack
I don't know what you mean by I've seen on some webpages [sic] that My [sic] IP is displayed as both exernal and internal. The IP address is for the internet and there is only one. You may have internal routing. That is different. I don't know what you mean about webpages displaying your

RE: logging remote IP address

2005-01-28 Thread Richard Mixon (qwest)
Mark wrote: I'm just tring to see if http request that came from one IP address has more then 1 client behind it. I've seen on some webpages that My IP is displayed as both external and internal - so it means it's doable - but the question is how to get this info in Tomcat. A major purpose of

RE: logging remote IP address

2005-01-28 Thread Cervenka, Tom
Mark, Why do want to know the internal NAT ip address of a request? How is this helpful? Also, what if the requests come from clients with accounts on the same multiuser system? Are you trying to figure out how to tell them apart? There is no NAT address in this case. Maybe what you are trying

Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-28 Thread Dakota Jack
Richard Mixon is, as usual, dead-on right. A good primer is http://webserver.cpg.com/ws/3.4/ snip A major purpose of a NAT style firewall is to hide the private ip addresses behind the firewall. If it allowed this information out it would be a security compromise - the network topology behind

RE: logging remote IP address

2005-01-28 Thread Mark
I'm trying to figure out is is the client on remote network has a duplicated id's (id used in my aplication). Here an example: I have two entries in access log file within 30 second from the same IP, but different logon id - my question is how to track it down that it's a different person? I

Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-28 Thread Dakota Jack
If it is the same IP address, it probably is the same person. The alternatives are highly unlikely, if possible. Jack snip I have two entries in access log file within 30 second from the same IP, but different logon id - my question is how to track it down that it's a different person? /snip

Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-28 Thread Parsons Technical Services
@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:44 PM Subject: Re: logging remote IP address If it is the same IP address, it probably is the same person. The alternatives are highly unlikely, if possible. Jack snip I have two entries in access log file within 30 second from the same IP

Re: logging remote IP address

2005-01-27 Thread Parsons Technical Services
If what you are trying to see is the private IP of a machine then you will only have success if the machine was named the IP. Not likely. The IP is not stored in the HTTP header (Unless I missed it) but is derived from the TCP/IP packet. When a machine is on a private network this address is