Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-Mini Desktop Environment

2018-04-09 Thread hd-scania
But anyway you are of course free to install your favourite desktop using  
apt, simply you are not forced to be stuck at LXDE if uncomfortable. I would  
like to recommend LXQt.


[Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops

2018-04-09 Thread hd-scania
In different libre system I run very different desktops, just a kindly  
sharing here,
Parabola: LXQt and Liri, all in Qt in this systems which I need to receive  
the latest Qt tech here, with just GParted, AbiWord, Gnumeric from GNOME w/o  
Qt alternatives. GNOME and the most forked desktops are conflicted against  
your-privacy due to geoclue2.
Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel: I'm different using which desktops in these  
systems, but I install LXQt in both systems, alongside the default desktops  
for these systems, since I'm also an Qt small world workstation advocate.
Hyperbola: Cinnamon, GNOME, MATE, Deepin, Budgie, LXDE, all in Gtk+ in this  
system which I need a stable environment for my practical tasks, just like  
from Devuan and Trisquel, though unlikely I'm indifferent for desktops in  
Devuan and Trisquel. Hyperbola removes geoclue2 deps which I dnt mind using  
Gtk+ desktops and internet apps in this system.


For init systems I need to endorse OpenRC for Parabola and Devuan, which the  
full Parabola installer is using systemd, but systemd has plenty cons. Devuan  
has told to me they're defaulting to OpenRC but unfortunately their install  
medium is not doing such.


Finally, for display managers I would recommend SDDM which is X and Wayland  
compatible and littlely Qt-written, which meets my need for a Qt small world  
workstation. GDM is also small but unfortunately part of GNOME, just like  
Epiphany (GNOME web) the web browser.


[Trisquel-users] Newbie trying to load Trisquel on Acer Computer.

2018-04-09 Thread john . rook
Recently bought an el cheapo Acer Aspire 1 (computer not chrome-book) with  
long battery life & zero memory for when I'm away from home needing wifi.  
Came with a disgusting spy-prog installed, called 'Windows 10'. Up until now  
I've begrudgingly used Windows 7. A friend suggested Trisquel as the  
simplest, most ethical alternative & said that as the Acer had Intel Graphics  
it would work fine.


I installed Trisq7 on a stick (pendrive linux, steep learning curve for me) &  
it boots up on my home laptop (though poor graphics & runs very hot - I'm  
told due to AMD). Nonetheless, on start up it gives you the option to load  
Trisquel.


However with the Acer Aspire 1 it just goes straight to Windows 10 without  
any options.


Seeing as Trisquel may work the Acer unit, can anyone point me in the right  
direction to sort this? Linux is new to me, so need a simple step by step  
explanation.




Mini troll/rant: I've always known Windows was back-doored (=same Macs). Tech  
never my strong point, I could just about live with Windows up to 7. After  
seeing 10 though, with all the Normie crap it just shoves in your face, I'm  
so disgusted I'm now committed to never using any Gates sh-- ever again  
(unless I have to for work). According to friend, I can't use Trisquel  
successfully on my home PC because of AMD. This is a shame. There must be  
millions with AMD out there + thousands like me who'd welcome a practical  
ethical OS if it was painless to install/use. Not all of us have the minds  
for tech or the time to spend on it. At least I know what not to buy in  
future if I'm to use Trisquel. The Forum looks very helpful, apart from a few  
effective trolls. No doubt total sad-asses, maybe sitting in some NSA/GCHQ  
basement somewhere. I'll contribute financially.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread dahunt
Since my last post, I managed to get a bootable system by extracting the .iso  
archive onto a formatted flash drive, having one FAT partition, taking up the  
whole disk.  Once I booted this version, I tried running the screen reader,  
and got it started, only to have it turn off within 5 seconds, or so.  I  
tried using the toggle shortcut, 'alt+super+s' and by using the 'run'  
dialogue and typing "orca", then hitting 'enter'.  I tried several reboots,  
waiting different amounts of time before starting orca, perhaps the desktop  
wasn't ready?  Still no joy.  Is anyone else using orca on this edition?  


Re: [Trisquel-users] dependency-problem while updating

2018-04-09 Thread elayer12

Hello davidpgil,

i know. Still after rebooting the same error occured again.

But after my last login (the computer was  a few hours shut down) everything  
works fine.


Thanks a lot!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Friday meeting

2018-04-09 Thread leoo
Thanks.  I advocate Evolution anyway, although I'd prefer it be named  
"Overview" to better suggest that it's an Outlook clone.  Are there any  
freedom issues with Evolution?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread leoo
"Given that Trisquel, like its Ubuntu base, is meant to be the most  
user-friendly distro for people new to GNU-Linux,"


I would say Trisquel is meant to be the most user-friendly distro that is  
fully free.  That last clause matters a lot, since there are other distros  
that put user-friendliness (defined by ease of use rather than respecting the  
user's freedom and privacy) above all other considerations.


One benefit of using MATE is that it should be fairly easy to shift the look  
and feel of the user interface to match what users accustomed to other OSes  
expect.  The default of course strongly resembles Windows, especially Windows  
95 through Vista.  MATE (at least the version in Ubuntu MATE) has a "Panels"  
dropmenu in the MATE Tweak tool's "Interface" portion that lets you switch to  
a Mac-like look and feel ("Cupertino") or Ubuntu-style ("Mutiny").  Does  
Trisquel 8's implementation of MATE have this?  I would also recommend a  
"Mountain View" option that replicates the ChromeOS or Chromium OS look and  
feel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread dahunt
I downloaded the 64-bit version from Jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/RC/ and  
wrote it to flash drive using the 'dd' command; resulting image is not  
bootable.  I used http in the browser, which works for all other distros'  
live images but Trisquel.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] dependency-problem while updating

2018-04-09 Thread David Philipe Gil
It says something about the "device or resource" being "busy". Please excuse 
me, but have you already tried rebooting and upgrading again?


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On April 9, 2018 1:35 PM,  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> today i got a problem doing an upgrade:
> 
> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade:
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> Ignhttp://es.archive.trisquel.info belenos-security/main Translation-de
> 
> Ign http://es.archive.trisquel.info belenos-updates/main Translation-en
> 
> Ign http://es.archive.trisquel.info belenos-updates/main Translation-de
> 
> Reading package lists... Done
> 
> Reading package lists... Done
> 
> Building dependency tree
> 
> Reading state information... Done
> 
> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
> 
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> 
> libruby1.9.1 : Depends: ruby1.9.1 (= 1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8) but
> 
> 1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.7 is installed
> 
> ruby1.9.1 : Depends: libruby1.9.1 (= 1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.7) but
> 
> 1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8 is installed
> 
> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
> 
> sudo apt-get -f install:
> 
> 
> -
> 
> Reading package lists... Done
> 
> Building dependency tree
> 
> Reading state information... Done
> 
> Correcting dependencies... Done
> 
> The following extra packages will be installed:
> 
> ruby1.9.1
> 
> Suggested packages:
> 
> ruby1.9.1-examples ri1.9.1 graphviz ruby1.9.1-dev ruby-switch
> 
> The following packages will be upgraded:
> 
> ruby1.9.1
> 
> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 
> 3 not fully installed or removed.
> 
> Need to get 0 B/35.6 kB of archives.
> 
> After this operation, 1024 B of additional disk space will be used.
> 
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
> 
> (Reading database ... 303199 files and directories currently installed.)
> 
> Preparing to unpack .../ruby1.9.1_1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8_amd64.deb ...
> 
> Unpacking ruby1.9.1 (1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8) over (1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.7) ...
> 
> dpkg: error processing archive
> 
> /var/cache/apt/archives/ruby1.9.1_1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8_amd64.deb (--unpack):
> 
> unable to install new version of `/usr/bin/ruby1.9.1': Device or resource
> 
> busy
> 
> Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1ubuntu1) ...
> 
> Processing triggers for menu (2.1.46ubuntu1) ...
> 
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> 
> /var/cache/apt/archives/ruby1.9.1_1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8_amd64.deb
> 
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> This is on Trisquel 7.
> 
> I do not know how i can solve this problem.
> 
> Can someone help me?
> 
> Thanks in advice!




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread strypey

I'm also getting a weird issue with downloading trisquel_8.0_i686.iso from:
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/RC/

I've tried it twice, and both times, it almost downloaded, then displayed an  
error in the ABrowser downloads menu, saying "file moved or missing". I  
haven't moved the file, and it's not missing, there's a 2.6GB file with that  
name in my Downloads folder. But running md5sum on that file gives me a hash  
that doesn't match the md5sum file downloaded from the same source.


I have almost 90GB free on my drive, so that's not the problem. I'm  
mystified. Could it be that too many of us are hitting that server, causing  
downloads to fail? Is there another download source I could try?


What's really strange is that I successfully downloaded the Sugar edition  
from the same source, and the download completed and passed the md5sum just  
fine. I made a bootable USB with the Startup Disc Creator in System Settings,  
and booted into a live system just fine too (first time I've managed to get a  
Sugar DE working, yay!).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-Mini Desktop Environment

2018-04-09 Thread enduzzer

LXDE


[Trisquel-users] Trisquel-Mini Desktop Environment

2018-04-09 Thread strypey
Just out of curiosity, what DE was chosen for Trisquel-Mini 8? I did a search  
on this site and a web search, but couldn't find anything.


I intend to test Trisquel-Mini once I've tested the standard T8 release. If  
it's LXDE/QT, I think I'll stick with the Mate DE of standard. I've found  
LXDE a bit too restrictive, and I'm sceptical about whether I'd enjoy LXQT  
any better, unless it's substantially more evolved than the last LXDE I  
tested (Peppermint 3).


I'd still love to see a Trisquel-Mini based on a version of the Enlightenment  
DE, whether a recent version (E22 just came out recently), or an E17 fork  
like the Moksha DE developed for Bodhi.

https://www.enlightenment.org/
http://www.bodhilinux.com/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread enduzzer
InfraRecorder works just fine with win 10. It's practical because it need not  
be installed. There's a zip portable archive.


[Trisquel-users] dependency-problem while updating

2018-04-09 Thread elayer12

Hello,

today i got a problem doing an upgrade:

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade:
--

Ign http://es.archive.trisquel.info belenos-security/main Translation-de
Ign http://es.archive.trisquel.info belenos-updates/main Translation-en
Ign http://es.archive.trisquel.info belenos-updates/main Translation-de
Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libruby1.9.1 : Depends: ruby1.9.1 (= 1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8) but  
1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.7 is installed
 ruby1.9.1 : Depends: libruby1.9.1 (= 1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.7) but  
1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8 is installed

E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.

sudo apt-get -f install:


Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  ruby1.9.1
Suggested packages:
  ruby1.9.1-examples ri1.9.1 graphviz ruby1.9.1-dev ruby-switch
The following packages will be upgraded:
  ruby1.9.1
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
3 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/35.6 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1024 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
(Reading database ... 303199 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../ruby1.9.1_1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking ruby1.9.1 (1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8) over (1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.7) ...
dpkg: error processing archive  
/var/cache/apt/archives/ruby1.9.1_1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 unable to install new version of `/usr/bin/ruby1.9.1': Device or resource  
busy

Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.46ubuntu1) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/ruby1.9.1_1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.8_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

This is on Trisquel 7.

I do not know how i can solve this problem.

Can someone help me?

Thanks in advice!


[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread lcerf
Software dos not necessarily stop working because it is old.  If there is  
usable free software to install the live ISO, let us recommend that!  We  
value freedom over convenience.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Which is the easiest way of making an .html file with Trisquel Belenos?

2018-04-09 Thread erbperbp

@ mason, loldier, Magic Banana
Thank you very much.

The data and questions with which you have contributed, have encouraged me to  
deepen my studies on .html editing.
Considering the set of options I already knew and the new ones that you have  
suggested, I think, that for the time being, the best substitutes for my  
Seamonkey dependent Compose is a combination of LibreOffice Writter and  
Abrowser's Web developer tools.


Thank you all for trying to help 


[Trisquel-users] Re : ebook reader advice

2018-04-09 Thread lcerf
OK.  The situation is the same as with Office documents (except that an  
Office document is a more effective vector of malware):  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macro_virus


So, do whatever you do when you open an Office document.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread enduzzer
Windows 10 burning an image is easy. Just open Explorer, right-click on the  
ISO and select 'Burn to disc'. Pix to follow if somebody needs them to write  
up instructions.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Mini is super nice !

2018-04-09 Thread owdavid1020

Thank you both for your speedy speedy replies.
martinh> what is a PPD ?
 A postscript printer description file(PPD).
My appologies I just grabbed the term
from the internet and it was used in conjunction
with my very loing print driver name.

mason> Thank you for the advise.
sudo apt-get install printer-driver-all
solved my problem.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-09 Thread onpon4
On a side note, I know this has been said a hundred times, but whoever used  
the downvote button on my posts, stop doing that. That button was added to  
mark spam and rule-breaking posts, not disagreement. I disagree with its  
existence, but as long as it's there, please do not abuse it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-09 Thread onpon4
Please do not ignore context. I said there's no use for a *libre version* of  
PlayOnLinux, because the whole point of it is to play proprietary games. If  
PlayOnLinux doesn't have its installation recipes and configuration values  
for proprietary Windows-only games, it does nothing for you, because that's  
the whole point of using it. If you're only playing libre games, PlayOnLinux  
does nothing for you, because you can just use a repository.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-09 Thread svenerik_vn
> I know very few people who have gone from Windows to a FSF endorsed distro  
in one step.


I did:)

PS. Agree with all you said.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-09 Thread onpon4
Probably because the software that removes HTML tags interprets it as one  
(since an HTML tag begins with a less-than sign).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread enduzzer
What’s up with this devel not found? I get this when attempting to initiate  
a download from the RC link.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-09 Thread strypey
My wife has a Mac (running El Capitan), which I can use (with her permission)  
to test the MacOS instructions. We no longer own any devices running Windows  
(yay!), but I'm sure there are GNUbies out there who still have a dual-boot,  
or run Windows on a separate PC. Anybody willing to do some testing and help  
update the wiki if needed? It would be good to make sure the instructions  
work for 2000/XP, Vista/7, and 8/10, with separate instructions for different  
versions if needed.


Burning .ISO to CD

I note that the code of Infrarecorder, the app recommended for burning the  
.ISO on Windows, doesn't appear to have been worked on since 2012 according  
to its GitHub repo:

https://github.com/kindahl/infrarecorder

There is a FOSSHub page last updated in 2014, which suggests it worked then  
on all Windows versions from 2000 > 8:

https://www.fosshub.com/InfraRecorder.html/

Similarly, the Burn app recommended for burning the .ISO on MacOS hasn't had  
a new version released since 2011, and I could fine no sign of the developer  
moving it to another forge:

(https://sourceforge.net/projects/burn-osx/files/)

Since the goal is to help a user transition to a fully free OS from an OS  
they're already running, why not simply give instructions for using the  
default disc burning software in that OS (per version if they differ)? Or if  
there isn't one, the most common disc burning freeware for that OS? That way  
the instructions are more likely to stay up-to-date, regardless of the  
fortunes of free code Windows/ Mac apps.


Making Bootable USB

The Windows instructions for making a bootable USB recommend the Universal  
USB Installer from PenDriveLinux. According to the homepage for that program,  
it now requires Vista or higher to work:
"Windows Vista/7/8/10 or WINE to create the USB (Win 98/XP/2K WILL NOT  
Work!)"

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button

The devices running these older version are more likely to have a CD-ROM  
drive, and also more likely not to have a BIOS that allows booting from USB.  
It might be good to include a note under the 'Boot Media' section of the  
Installation Guide page, advising people running these older versions of  
Windows that the USB method may not work, and recommending they install by  
burning a CD.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel needs to be rebooted and based on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-04-09 Thread msuzuqi
It is a challenge or a nightmare for more than 99% musicians rather than an  
advice.

Similarly, Cezanne is nightmare for more than 99% painters.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=79geSY9jQLQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S0bkJYQdCSQ


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble with add-ons on ABrowser

2018-04-09 Thread enduzzer

Then they must be separate issues.


Re: [Trisquel-users] ebook reader advice

2018-04-09 Thread strypey

pengnuin wrote:
>> AOSP definitely isn't perfect, but better than the kind of stuff one can  
expect on a Amazon Fire shmablet out of the box...