Re: [Trisquel-users] Repositorry/IM tools/Trisquel 8/frustrations for an average user

2018-01-15 Thread bob
For Pidgin, you may want to try the PPA: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa GNU Ring should be in the repositories so should be as easy to install as running the apt-get command! (I just tried it, and it definitely works) It's worth remembering that Trisquel 7 is

[Trisquel-users] Repositorry/IM tools/Trisquel 8/frustrations for an average user

2018-01-15 Thread ciarlinip
Dear all, Ever since I became convinced of the importance of the Free Software movement, I - an average joe computer user - have been only using free software for my personal computing. I applaud all the efforts. However, there is much work to be done. Let me briefly explain my situation:

[Trisquel-users] Re : Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread lcerf
Compiling Linux-libre is easy... but configuring it is not: always keep a functional kernel installed since the one you build yourself may not boot if you forgot to include essential modules for your hardware!

[Trisquel-users] Re : Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread lcerf
If you only do that, you will not learn anything. And not have a kernel that is specifically configured for your hardware. The next step, 'make gconfig' (or use whatever other interface you happen to like), is the interesting/hard part: you will be drowning into a huge amount of components

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
I see, thanks! :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
How the h*** do I install GTK+? " grevengull@GG-MB-P-9:~/kernel_compiling/linux-4.14.13$ make gconfig * * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0. * make[1]: *** No

[Trisquel-users] Re : Kernel questions and Intel ME

2018-01-15 Thread lcerf
Are you referring to Meltdown and Spectre? Those attacks have absolutely nothing to do with the Management Engine. Having up-to-date is important to be protected against known attacks such as Meltdown and Spectre. Newer kernel may better support your hardware too, especially if it is

[Trisquel-users] Re : Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread lcerf
I did not know that "make gconfig" was stuck with GTK 2 (not 3). Just use another interface. 'make xconfig' for instance.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
> Compiling Linux-libre is easy... but configuring it is not what's what? > always keep a functional kernel installed since the one you build yourself may not boot if you forgot to include essential modules for your hardware! A little bit down in the

[Trisquel-users] Kernel questions and Intel ME

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
Some days ago while the Intel ME thing was fresh, jxself had a fix in the 4.14.12 kernel, now there's a 4.14.13 on the releases page: http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/ , my question is simple: how important is it to always have the latest kernel?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
Well that brings me to the question: How the hell do I install the xconfig Qt thing? :p

Re: [Trisquel-users] This made me smile ...

2018-01-15 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 19:44 +0100, calmst...@posteo.de wrote: > using windows = dumb... especially for government!!! Then why do the leaked NSA slideshows show screenshots of them doing their tasks with Windows? -- Caleb Herbert OpenPGP public key: http://bluehome.net/csh/pubkey signature.asc

[Trisquel-users] Libre alternative to Pocket?

2018-01-15 Thread ryanpcmcquen
I'm using Trisquel 8 and loving it! Does anyone know of a good libre alternative to Pocket (https://getpocket.com/)? Something with Android and Abrowser support would be perfect.

Re: [Trisquel-users] forum/mailing list discrepancies

2018-01-15 Thread Caleb Herbert
> Content visable in the forum but not the mailing list: > - usernames: I've gotten to know people to know by their usernames and now > need to relearn who they are by their email addresses. This is not such a > problem, but people frequently will refer to each other by their usernames > ('See

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-15 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Thu, 2018-01-11 at 01:15 +0100, stu...@anchev.net wrote: > The answer given by the Chromium dev surely is not to my taste. Yet it is > more acceptable considering that even currently Chromium's test shows it to > be a privacy respecting browser. Or can you show a test which demonstrate >

[Trisquel-users] Re : Libre alternative to Pocket?

2018-01-15 Thread lcerf
I just use Abrowser's bookmarks, that you can tag. https://wallabag.org directly compete with Pocket. Being free software, you can install it on your own server.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Kernel questions and Intel ME

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
Also what's the difference between all the places where one can get kernels? You have jxself https://jxself.org/linux-libre/ and fsfla https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/ and probably many more...

[Trisquel-users] Re : Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread lcerf
If 'make xconfig' does not work either, use 'make menuconfig'. This one will work for sure.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-15 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I recommend XMPP, and any client software that is able to use Jingle, and has it enabled. If I remember correctly, Trisquel's Pidgin has it enabled. At GNU Guix, we need some help to get both Pidgin and Gajim to have Jingle enabled. Jingle works well with one-to-one voice/video.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : (Not Trisquel-related. Free software related) Free earphones and headphones?

2018-01-15 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 21:08 +0100, lc...@dcc.ufmg.br wrote: > I do not think there is software running in earphones/headphones. My earbuds have play/pause and volume up/down buttons. I'm sure they are controlled by firmware, but I don't think it's possible for anybody to ever change the

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 8

2018-01-15 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
+1 Emacs Org mode. Also has various capabilities (more than Markdown, allows you to use docunments as agendas, and have notifications for the events) and has more interpreters, not just Emacs. 2017-12-06T04:58:48+0100 fb...@runbox.com wrote: > No worries. All is well that ends well. It's fair

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-15 Thread Caleb Herbert
You throw the baby out with the bathwater, which irritates me very much. On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 19:47 +0100, stu...@anchev.net wrote: > Could you please explain what freedom issues (apart from the one mentioned by > > me) there are? I have always thought Chromium is FLOSS. If you're concerned

Re: [Trisquel-users] Minifree's Libreboot X200 laptop comes with Trisquel pre-installed. Now with other keyboard layouts available, and free stickers

2018-01-15 Thread Caleb Herbert
I commend you for your efforts in kicking out those dirty licences. When we have enough free software at our call, we'll kick out those dirty licenses ever more. :P On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 23:18 +0100, arie...@allthethings.ca wrote: > It's been 6 months and I've still rocking a Minifree Libreboot

Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

2018-01-15 Thread Caleb Herbert
I use the WebExtension called Stylus to apply a global Solarized theme I found on GitHub. Unfortunately, it has no license, so I don't feel comfortable recommending it to others. If you find another CSS that works and has a license, send me a screenshot of what it looks like and I will use it.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Kernel questions and Intel ME

2018-01-15 Thread lcerf
https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/ is the homepage of the Linux-libre project. The resulting source code is then compiled and packaged to be easily installed (by package managers). Jxself not only works for that project but also packages the kernels for distributions that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-15 Thread Mason Hock
You have been making many points that are insightful and worth talking about in themselves but that don't support a clear argument. This is perhaps a pitfall of the point-by-point forum response style that I also tend toward. However, the timing and frequency with which you temporarily reframe

Re: [Trisquel-users] Node.js free?

2018-01-15 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
The only issue I can think of is that there is no committment from Node.js maintainers to guarantee software freedom. So we can't assume that all software there is free. There are some other issue with Node.js, but they are not related to software freedom, and are way more technical. People from

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-15 Thread Caleb Herbert
> but there is nothing wrong with them claiming that their Debian-derived > distro PureOS is libre because it is, I see they've recommended Etcher, an Electron app. They didn't respond to me on IRC when I said Electron was a possible FSDG issue, since Fedora and FSDG distros (specifically

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to spread computing freedom?

2018-01-15 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 16:02 +0100, fb...@runbox.com wrote: > Things are not always black and white and people juggle with many types of > competing priorities. I respect the resolve of those who reject every > proprietary program, but life is full of other inconveniences (like finding > food

Re: [Trisquel-users] This made me smile ...

2018-01-15 Thread Caleb Herbert
Stallman's Law Now that corporations dominate society and write the laws, each advance or change in technology is an opening for them to further restrict or mistreat its users. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/stallmans-law.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to spread computing freedom?

2018-01-15 Thread fbits
I applaud your success, ariellab. Different people live different circumstances, so you cannot assume everyone can set work boundaries in the same way. In many places of the world, it takes much courage to do many of the things you may take for granted in your context/country/culture. This

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-15 Thread jason
Then something is wrong because that is exactly what it is supposed to be doing. Check out /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal and you will see. "In the common case, this results in exactly two kernels saved but it can result in three kernels being saved. It's better to err on the side

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-15 Thread fbits
Hello ariellab, If I understand correctly, you are using a librebooted computer. If so, GRUB is in libreboot; meaning GRUB resides on your ROM chip, not on your harddisk. To look at -- and modify -- the GRUB configuration, you'll need to use "flashrom" to get an image of the current ROM

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 8

2018-01-15 Thread i_write_words
Trisquel 8 is here and good enough for daily use, I hear. I don't personally use it because some of the software I need doesn't have to be the latest and the greatest and either it isn't ready yet on T8 or it has dependencies on software I don't want but do not have the time and knowledge to

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-15 Thread sora
I can say that I am a teenager. I do not post photos to FB but my parents did (it was long time ago, but I manually deleted them) They now post photos of our other child family members and even has a facebook for them, they cheated the birthday so they created the facebook even though I am

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-15 Thread sora
I currently cannot get a job since I am still studying.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Riot won't start in Abrowser

2018-01-15 Thread i_write_words
Oh. So that's it. My guess is that it's some sort of a browser update or something because I don't have the time to look into other possibilities right now or the lack of compassion to ask Adfeno, Supertramp, Jade, Mason or any of the usual suspects when they're so busy with more important

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-15 Thread studio
> If you're concerned about privacy issues in Mozilla, then how could you ever consider Chromium? Why not? The test proves it behaves better. It doesn't chatter in the background like Firefox (and its forks). There is only one single packet sent to translate.google.com on opening of settings

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-15 Thread ariella
I doubt that. What you haven't seen is the other 6 or so other 3.x versions I had accumulated via Software Updater, that autoremove wouldn't touch. I did a cleanup using apt purge commands.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to spread computing freedom?

2018-01-15 Thread ariella
I don't allow any real-time access to me on my personal devices. So, no work email, no work chat, not text messaging, and I don't take calls from work related numbers. When I happen to telecommute unexpectedly, which means I don't have my work laptop with me, I'll tolerate real-time access

Re: [Trisquel-users] This made me smile ...

2018-01-15 Thread calmstorm
"Let's avoid placing our privacy in the hands of companies who may disagree." I agree with that wholeheartedly.

Re: [Trisquel-users] This made me smile ...

2018-01-15 Thread calmstorm
Because they are morons. And Microsoft is so far up their ass they won't change their ways. Honestly, this is pathetic on the nsa's part.

Re: [Trisquel-users] how to work with plain text

2018-01-15 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Simple example using GNU Sed: printf '01:00AM\nReceived from Ana\n02:00 PM\n03:00 AM\nReceived from Bob\n' | sed 's/[AP]M/\0\n\n/g; s/Received from/\n\n\0/g' For safety purposes, sed doesn't replace the contents of the file, unless you pass `-i' to it. 2017-12-09T23:24:47+0100 a...@ncf.ca

Re: [Trisquel-users] Riot won't start in Abrowser

2018-01-15 Thread calmstorm
Since ADFENO necroed a post I think it's only fair that the necro troll comes out of RETIREMENT!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-15 Thread studio
You made quite a good summary. Just to clarify: I am not looking for an argument in the sense of stating something and then proving it. The clarifications I made just for the sake of better mutual understanding, not in order to oppose for the sport of it (which would be quite silly).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-15 Thread studio
> Are these words sincere, or are they meant to provoke others? They are sincere. And they are meant to provoke actual testing, not just theorizing. I have not tested Iridium. And I am not planning to. So whoever says anything about it must provide actual test. Otherwise it is just words

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-15 Thread sora
1)I am living near them so there are offline interactions. 2) Alternatives I am currently trying to make them use alternatives such as Linphone, Seafile and Mumble. 3)I currently run a gnu social server but the interface is not facebo*k like so I think I may try to create a disapora pod.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread jason
Also, I provide the configs I use in a git repository. https://jxself.org/git/?p=kernel-configs.git It could be useful as a starting point or whatever.

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-15 Thread sora
I read the other thread and if not because of that thread I may have given up long time ago, so thank you for inspiring me to not give up.

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 8

2018-01-15 Thread calmstorm
Would this post of ADFENO be considered necroing? IF so, lovely. Except I was hoping for something funnier for a necro post. ah well...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre alternative to Pocket?

2018-01-15 Thread ryanpcmcquen
Thank you, wallabag looks almost perfect!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Kernel questions and Intel ME

2018-01-15 Thread jason
There is also another place to get source code which is: https://jxself.org/git/?p=linux-libre.git I started this because I found that Alexandre Oliva, who runs fsfla.org, deletes older kernel source code when disk space runs low and this raised some questions when people wanted to get some

Re: [Trisquel-users] Node.js free?

2018-01-15 Thread greatgnu
Yeah.. mr. Bob, I try to be funny. I will try not to overdo it :P

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is Tor really that bad?

2018-01-15 Thread lcerf
Neither situation is perfect, and for some the extra protection of Tor might not be worse how much slower it is than using a VPN. We are back to the conversation in the other thread: privacy is not absolute and "extra protection" often requires compromising on other features (performance

Re: [Trisquel-users] Node.js free?

2018-01-15 Thread greatgnu
Right.. so you created the soft link, now try to do whatever you were trying to achieve and see if it works. Nice terminal btw :P

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Tor really that bad?

2018-01-15 Thread s1lv3r1997
As always thank you so much for your response

Re: [Trisquel-users] Node.js free?

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
Screenshot

Re: [Trisquel-users] Node.js free?

2018-01-15 Thread greatgnu
Hmm, the only thing I can think of right now is you need to create a soft link Can you try this and see? sudo ln -s `which nodejs` /usr/bin/node

[Trisquel-users] Re : Community guidelines question

2018-01-15 Thread lcerf
Since the episode deals with Trisquel, I do not see how linking to it in the forum could be considered off-topic.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Node.js free?

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
Thanks :p

[Trisquel-users] Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
according to this manual: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/compiling-gnu-linux-libre-kernel , "you can optimize it for your hardware and leave out all the drivers and features you don't have use for. It's also educational to take a peek into the inner workings of GNU Linux-libre." Why that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-15 Thread ariella
I'm using 64-bit. :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
Okay so I posted a post again without doing proper thinking on before-hand. It seems I can follow the instructions in "compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel" to compile my own kernel AND use the latest 4.14.13 kernel :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Community guidelines question

2018-01-15 Thread bob
Fair enough. It doesn't deal *exclusively* with Trisquel, so I'll err on the side of caution and keep it in this thread so it can be buried/deleted. :D Link: https://bobstechsite.com/bts-podcast-season-1-episode-1/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compiling a GNU Linux-libre kernel risky?

2018-01-15 Thread studio
> ...or wait a minute.. is that risky in these Intel ME times? Intel ME has nothing to do with it as it is basically a separate system inside the CPU with its own memory etc. Of course it is possible for Intel ME to read/modify/transmit every bit of information on your system without even

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Tor really that bad?

2018-01-15 Thread studio
To the best of my knowledge Bitcoin is not completely anonymous. There can still be a trace to you if you buy the coins with a credit card. Also paying in cash may not be completely anonymous because there may be CCTV at the office you pay. It is difficult to evaluate how likely all this is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

2018-01-15 Thread greatgnu
I see, yeah I love languages (all but programming languages :P ) People changed a lot, mate. I can tell, being 87. I lived for almost a century. Back in the good old days the man would have smiled and thanked you, he would have wither accepted it or not but in any case he would have smiled

Re: [Trisquel-users] Node.js free?

2018-01-15 Thread greatgnu
I have 0 experience with wire.. I thought nodejs was packaged for Trisquel 7 and 8, isn't it? I ask because it seems you are having issues with it and I know it is not packaged for Debian Stretch. A decent option to install and upgrade node and npm is nvm, it will install everything locally,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-15 Thread studio
> I do not. Then ask, don't assume or twist. > Since you are redefining words, it is not surprising. I have shared the original dictionary meaning of words. I don't define anything, I just stick to it. If someone else has invented a new different meaning because it sounds pleasing ("free

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-15 Thread greatgnu
>but it was giving me DNS leaks when I tested in Abrowser. Sure about that? How did you test that? One of the main reasons they forked openvpn to build bitmask was indeed to take care of DNS leaks and a few other issues.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
Hehe. Well, yes. The politeness back in the days may have been something quite different, but I refuse to believe that everything was better before and that we "need" to back :p I believe trends come and go. Sometimes one gets nostalgic indeed, but in the whole I believe the human race is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-15 Thread greatgnu
>So basically you proved the results of my tests. The first 3 hosts you listed look like the hosts which contain the lists for uMatrx (without uMatrix there would not be connections to them). Yes, I believe so. >Still trust Firefox and Mozilla? I never did in the first place. As I said I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Node.js free?

2018-01-15 Thread svenerik_vn
But according to my terminal, both node.js and npm is the latest version, so that shouldn't be the issue :/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Tor really that bad?

2018-01-15 Thread greatgnu
>I read a lot of nasty horrible stories about tor and i'm afraid of it. Well, if I write a book about how horrible freedom can be will you believe me? >I want to become serious about my privacy and surf the internet anonymously but i don't want to see orrible stuff Things don't

[Trisquel-users] Community guidelines question

2018-01-15 Thread bob
Hello admins/moderator folk, Basically I made a pilot episode for a free software-themed podcast over the weekend. I advocated Trisquel pretty hard in it! Is posting a link in a single forum post in case anyone's interested (or wants to point out mistakes to me) considered spam? I read