Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/1/2005 9:09:01 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By crafty, I was referring to what I call Priestcraft Blaine: Priestcraft is, by my definition, using preaching and/or teaching the gospel as a means of making a living. Mormon priests arelay

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Blainerb473
Isaiah 29 11 "And the vision of all is become unto you as the word of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee; and he saith, I cannot, for it is sealed. 12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this I

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
I guess I just have no sensitivity at all, because I'm cracking up over the whole thing! It only strikes me as funny coming from Smithson. I can just see him laughing up his sleeve. Of course it's probably true, with him being in the construction business, but I just thought I'd pull his leg.

RE: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Not at all, Dave! I'm sitting here having my 3:00 am coffee and toast (with a bit of blackberry jam from the Amish) while entertaining myself at JD's expense on TT. :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Thursday,

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dave, you are too much of a gentleman to ever be boring. J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:57 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH DAVEH: Time is my biggest

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
I think I also mentioned adulterer. Thats enough for me. Maybe not for you. Iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:54 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

[TruthTalk] New Bible Translation!

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Another new Bible translation for those of you who like them: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44563. It says Jesus was Judith, and was printed by LBI. (Lesbian Bible Institute?) -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread David Miller
Izzy wrote: Yum!!! Can we have dessert first? LOL. Well, there are other factors to controlling fat accumulation, such as learning to eat the right foods that burn slowly, and doing a little bit of exercise several times a week for those who tend to live sedentary lives. Learning to eat the

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
This is both evasive and, a non-answer. I've done the same myself multitudinous times on TT so, I can't hold your feet to the fire. However, one can't fail to notice that both Christine and yourself have no real answer for this reality. Which reality? The reality that the majority (pun

Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: The Word of God is recorded in the Bible that we may know what is required of us and that we might DO IT! The Bible is not the sole witness of what is required of us, Kevin. Jesus promised us the Spirit, not the Bible. Please try to remember that. Teaching a relationship with

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
On considering the source:Every one of us does that when we look at the source name for a post, do we not? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 02:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH In a

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
Let me assume DM's inquisitor model (not employed in some time I might say) and, abbreviate for the sake of your time: Do you perceive the James 1 experience such that it enables you to set aside every other consideration concerning LDS? - Original Message - From: Dave

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread David Miller
Blaine wrote: When one who practices priestcraft sees his income being diminished because his patrons are being converted to Mormonism, he strikes out against the religion, hoping to destroy it. This is the source of most present-day Mormon bashing. Very interesting thoughts, Blaine.

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
One out of two ain't bad, David. When you go to the second hand store for a new suit, do you ask for a 44 long? Rather than having this sin conversation one more time we'll just agree to disagree. You just spoke the other day of the remnants of human nature even in such as yourself. Let's just

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy and John on the Law and the Spirit

2005-06-03 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Jesus had these same temptations. John wrote: So Christ was selfish, covetous, bigoted, lustful, arrogant and the like ??? No, I said he was tempted in this way because his flesh had the same nature within it as you and I. Remember his temptation in the desert, when

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
You are such a bore, David. If one eats nearly all the time -- postponement is a good thing. If one thinks to stop at Burger King for the third time today, postponement is a good thing. And it is noteating more often, David; it is eating smaller meals more often -- postponement working again. If

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: I am, once again, calling you self deceived. I'm tempted to hear you, Lance, because a man who has deceived himself would not know it unless someone pointed it out to him. The problems associated with me accepting what you say is 1) the person Jesus Christ, 2) the Scriptures

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Now JD, don't get critical with David just because he approached the problem a different way. You are attributing obesity to gluttony and he is saying that there are other reasons for a person to be overweight, and that a slow metabolism is one of them. So what is wrong with that? I happen

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 07:25:57 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are such a bore, David. If one eats nearly all the time -- postponement is a good thing. If one thinks to stop at Burger King for the third time today, postponement is a good thing. And it is noteating more

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Joe was a WARLOCK with all the tools of the craft. Even SOME Mormons can admit it is so. http://www.signaturebooks.com/magic.htm By drawing only on authorized descriptions of the endowment by LDS leaders, I believe it is possible to see within historical context how the Mormon endowment reflected

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
I dont know anyone who worships a book. Do you? Iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:18 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH So then, does worshiping a book make

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
This is not a Prophecy of the Book of Mormon. Read the context Blaine.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isaiah 29 11 "And the vision of all is become unto you as the word of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee; and he saith, I cannot, for it

Re: [TruthTalk] New Bible Translation!

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Well I guess God will use this piece of Trash also, according to JD Lance. Lu 2:"4 And Joseph went to Bethlehem. 5 To be enrolled with Mary, his wife, who was then pregnant. 7 And she brought forth her firstborn child. 21 And her name was chosen to be Judith." Judith saves?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread David Miller
John wrote: If one eats nearly all the time -- postponement is a good thing. Well, that certainly is true. If someone is eating all the time, he needs to stop that. John wrote: If one thinks to stop at Burger King for the third time today, postponement is a good thing. But it would be

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
One of the Book of Mormon witnesses said he "contracted a WHORING Spirit" By the way you left out PERVERT. He liked little girls.ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I also mentioned adulterer. That’s enough for me. Maybe not for you. Iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
You asked me not to give a smart remark. I complied. I answered as best I could since I really did not understandyour question State it more clearly I will answer. I do not evade questions. The new bible problem exists in other languages also. There are plenty of translations based on the

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Funny question from the bookworm! Whats new at the movies Lance?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So then, does worshiping a book make one an idolater? Are such on an equal footing with a liar? I'm only askin' mind ya. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Terry Clifton
David Miller wrote: Kevin wrote: The Word of God is recorded in the Bible that we may know what is required of us and that we might DO IT! The Bible is not the sole witness of what is required of us, Kevin. Jesus promised us the Spirit, not the Bible. Please try to

[Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Could we be in the midst of the "great falling away" that has been prophesied? Gaining entrance to the Kingdom is one thing, being able to receive strong meat and to stand is another. I sure wouldn't presume anything including your fascination with so called "Book worship." You sound more

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
Yes. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 08:01 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH I don’t know anyone who worships a book. Do you? Iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
As far as the holy Spirit, who leads us into all truth, Please see my previous posts on illumination If the foundation is corrupt then goeth the rest. The WH text is hopelessly corrupt on the face of it. This is prima facae evidence against the Critical text. Just look, on it's face multiple

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Terry Clifton
Judy Taylor wrote: Jesus did not go to the cross for "sin management" He defeated sin andfreed us fromit's inheritance, power, and presence . === Beautifil! Puts it all into perspective with a minimum of

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blaine wrote: Priestcraft is, by my definition, ... Here we go again...the mormons like to make up their own meanings for words, to suit thier own personal perception of the world. I call this the Queen of Hearts syndrome: Words mean exactly what I want them to

Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread David Miller
Kevin, you never answered me about modern English versions that are not based upon the WH text. How do you feel about them? David.

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Izzy...Your kindness is only exceeded by your beauty! ShieldsFamily wrote: Dave, you are too much of a gentleman to ever be boring. J Izzy -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Very interesting but erroneous! The source for most "Mormon Bashing" is lost income?? One would have to be inculcated with a doctrine that says all "priests" that receive income are an abomination. Thus LDS use LAYworkers. I won't call them preachers cause they can't even preach mormonism. It

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
You are accusing him of something he has never professed. Standard "fair" for this crowd! Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 07:25:57 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are such a bore, David. If one eats nearly all the time -- postponement is a good thing. If one

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Christine Miller
Do you find that this is a Bible principle that God uses Heathen Pagans, Heretics especially when conveying His word? Yes, I beleive God can use whatever He chooses, including the Pagans and Heretics. God has used the UF Pagans several times when I was preaching to draw crowds and ask

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
While both acknowledging the possibility of and, supplying us with an personal life illustration for, self-decpetion yet does David argue against it's application to himself personally for reasons of: 1. The Person of Christ 2. Scripture 3. Personal experience Jesus never cooperated with sin

Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Bible is not the sole witness BUT it is a safe bet for you KNUCKLE HEADS that have PRIVATE DOCTRINES. If your doctrine goes against the Word of God, I'll take the Bible everytime. It is the safe bet. Not some Prophet, not some spirit, not some teaching! IS 8:20 "If they speak not according

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
Do you happen to know for a certainty upon which mss all foreign translation are based? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 08:22 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz You asked me not

Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
I have no problem with Modern english It has NO bearing upon the issue I have no problem with Modern translations ONLY those that flow from the corrupted stream of the Critical text. I did answer. I am not familiar with the two you cited. I also accept foriegn language translations based upon

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Ask JudithLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you happen to know for a certainty upon which mss all foreign translation are based? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 08:22 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
I meant as custodians of His word. I believe we agree on God's ability to use evil "God can draw a Straight Line with a crooked stick"! He has a wrench for Every nut!Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you find that this is a Bible principle that God uses Heathen Pagans, Heretics

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
This then is your direct answer to my direct question? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 12:45 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Ask JudithLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Paaleezzz. Do your lips crack when puckered that tightly? JD :-)-Original Message-From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 07:03:28 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH DAVEH: Izzy...Your kindness is only

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Why suddenly so concerned for the truth, Deegan? do you know what I mean by "sinless perfectionism?" Jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:16:17 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity You are accusing him

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Worship shapes our spirituality "...our spirituality is usually shaped more by the experience of communal worship than it is by preaching and teachingthe way we think about God and relate to God is influenced enormously by our experience of God in communal worship..Songs are especially

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
WhenI find onewith error I throw it back on the Trash heap where it came from. How much more REsearch do I need when I know about Judith? Some translations will require more research, but since I talk no foriegn Languages, I do not need to concern myself with such, EH?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
do you know what I mean by "sinless perfectionism?" Your definition or the standard, which do you want? It is some kinda KENtuckee snake handler![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why suddenly so concerned for the truth, Deegan? do you know what I mean by "sinless perfectionism?" Jd-Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Worship shapes our spirituality Snacking shapes our posterior, Theology sometimes shapes our interpretation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Worship shapes our spirituality "...our spirituality is usually shaped more by the experience of communal worship than it is by preaching and teachingthe way

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Christine Miller
It plays a very important part in the discipline of spiritual growth. Amen. I realized recently that the worship songs I sing have taught me a sort of spiritual jealousy, where I wanted to mean those songs from my heart when I sang them. This one song had a line You can offer her anything her

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Congratulations. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:34 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Yes. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily

RE: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
ROFL!!! Too funny! JD, if you had success in an area, what would there be to land on like hungry animals??? Dont you have a bike helmet or something? Izzy So tell us, in what areas have you had success with it? Me tell you and the likes of Deegan and Izzy? Fat chance

RE: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
I can just hear JD saying, But HE did it FIRST!!! (grow up!) Izzy You are accusing him of something he has never professed. Standard fair for this crowd!

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Christine, do you equate singing songs in church with worship? Are there any other types of worship than singing songs? Perry From: Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005

RE: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Yes, JDand how do YOU know you arent guilty of what you describe here? Could you possibly be guilty of arrogance and pride? Izzy Yes, David and some are blinded by their own sins. Arrogance and pride are among the most difficult sins to admit to because such admission

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dave might just win a free eye exam from my Hubby! J Iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:03 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it isnt Hitler its McCarthy. Get a new, but more creative insult please. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Sometimes sasmcking shapes our posterir, as well. And, "theology"usually shapes our interpretation. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:47:10 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity Worship shapes our

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Good comments. My wife and I do not look to songs for didache -- rather we score high a service that allows us to praise God and give Him His righteous due. Perhaps reflective of how we approach the Faith in total. JD-Original Message-From: Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Having trouble with the phrase "do you know what I mean by "sinless" perfection?" JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:44:39 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity do you know what I mean by "sinless

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
You have already expressed yourself in this negative activity, Izzy. My comments were not predictive so much as theywere a summary of how you (all) do buiness with those who disagree with you. I knew from the get go, that our good moderator, Charles Perry, could not reel you guys in -- so he

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Its been awhile for me, but I believe the correct phraseology "work of services" (?) If so, most of what we do our of appreciation of the Christ in our lives would be worship. Thoughts???-Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke cpl2602@hotmail.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Of course-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:21:32 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Obesity Yes, JD?and how do YOU know you aren?t guilty of what you describe here? Could you possibly be guilty of arrogance and

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Ahh -- so it was grafted that served as the motivation. Of course DAvH will deny tis -- but the facts are now on the table. Another reason why I cannot type as well as some is that I am nearly legally blind. What is instore for me? JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like someone so ?yuck! Do be faithful to one of your own, Iz. Joe looks down from 'the great 'hearing in the sky.' He's on the lookout for 'commies' like homeland security is on the lookout for terrorists. It's

[TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:48:10 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Worship shapes our spirituality "...our spirituality is usually shaped more by the experience of communal worship than it is by preaching and teachingthe way we think about God and relate to God is

Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
Are we ALL as predictable as you, Judy? Given this I'm not sure why you don't just have two 'repeater' words: 'Amen' for David (by extension, Christine), Izzie Kevin. 'Nein' for all of the rest of us. The time you could save, Judy! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Accusations without proof? Get real NO need to try to figure out if there is a ONLY BEGGOTTEN Daughter! Do you need further proof that that particular translation is Trash? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So then Kevin, in Senator McCarthy like fashion you hurl out accusations sans proof

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Senator McCarthy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism Recently declassified Soviet-era documents have, in fact, confirmed that Soviet spies had infiltrated the U.S. State Department in the 1930s and 1940s He was right all along! So in the interest of Truth what accusations have I hurled

RE: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
It wwould be used to beat me over the head. Why bother, you provideso much other ammo ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROFL!!! Too funny! JD, if you had success in an area, what would there be to land on like hungry animals??? Don’t you have a bike helmet or something? Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: == It probably depends a bit on whether you are one of those who do church, or if you are one of those who is church. Those who do church often are there because they want to be

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Why? What else do they have, surely not facts. Why we are not even let in on what the supposed baseless accusations consist of!ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, good grief---why is it that liberals always fall back on those old tried and true names to call other people? If it

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
NO ain't you been to the Mecca? down in the Holla were the snake handler's go.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having trouble with the phrase "do you know what I mean by "sinless" perfection?" JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
JOB And there was a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house: And there came a messenger unto Job, and said, The oxen were plowing, and the asses feeding beside them: And the Sabeans fell upon them, and took them away; yea, they have slain

[TruthTalk] Fw: Satan

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Hughes Jonathan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 03, 2005 16:39 Subject: Satan even if an angel from heaven I think it was from James Jordan that I first encountered the notion that Satan may have had a legitimate teaching task in Eden. After all,

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
These deaths add daily to the cumulative total of 3.8 million fatalities since the crisis began in August Why don't you go over there and do something about it? Talk is cheap!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's truly uncomfortable is it not? When (in print) you sound, often, like

[TruthTalk] [Fwd: Clinton's death factories in Arkansas]

2005-06-03 Thread Terry Clifton
This story sorta ties in with your figures on the slaughter in Africa, Lance. Not because the two are alike, but because they represent both ends of the spectrum. If you are poor and unknown (Africans with no oil ) you can die by the millions and the world will yawn. If you are rich and have

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Worship is at 11:00 sharp on SundayTerry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: == It probably depends a bit on whether you are one of those who do church, or if you are one of those who is church. Those who do church often are

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Satan

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Satan a legitimate teacher? Angels? Tell the "Angels"to go back to the PIT where they came from. Satan wasn't just telling nothing but lies; rather, he was twisting the truth that they knew. He was twisting what? The WORDS of God. Still actively twisting today. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
To quote Izzie accurately: tried TRUE. Read carefully as she is making the opposite point. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 16:40 Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Why? What

Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Absolutely. -Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:12:14 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Are we ALL as predictable as you, Judy? Given this I'm not sure why you don't just have two 'repeater' words: 'Amen'

Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
If one goes around imbibing spiritual atmospheres where is spiritual discernment? The animal kingdom are the ones who are led by instinct. Human beings need to learn and God makes surewe are taught to know the voice of the Shepherd. jt On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:12:14 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
If this was a source of oil Kevin, your country WOULD BE THERE! Terry sees this. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 16:52 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz These deaths add daily to

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
In Eph 5:18ff -- Paul IS talking about doing church.That is the context of the passage.-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:38:42 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
I rest my case !!! JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:42:22 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity NO ain't you been to the Mecca? down in the Holla were the snake handler's go.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
And your point -- that we must shave our heads, worship flat on the groundwhile tearing our clothing? ?? JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:48:49 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity JOB

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2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Hidding behind tough words don't get it done, Deegan. Just another way of avoiding the real and important issues. JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:52:25 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV

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2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Have you read Eph 5:18-20. Think "imbibe." And why would you waste everyone's time rejecting such an observation. You do not fight liberalism -- you guys just fight against anything you didn't make up. Nearly everything I believe is accepted by our friends as BSF while you pretend that youare

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name into the mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Eph 5:18ff -- Paul IS talking about doing church.That is the context of the passage. === In my opinion, Paul was telling them how to be Church, but I thank you for the verse anyway, since I

Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-03 Thread ttxpress
dualistically, then, false worship depends on an incorrect heart attitude On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:58:39 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: true worship depends upon a correct heart attitude

[TruthTalk] Re:WWCofG lives on

2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Years ago, when I too, was a legalist, I enjoyed listening to Herbert W Armstrong and Garner Ted. But they lost me with their emphasis on the Old LAw. Many of their arguments -- such as "against evolution" -- were actually very good. Anyway -- Carner Ted did the twist with one of the

RE: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Absolutely. The way we dress in the morning, the thoughts we carry through the day, the habits we form, our interactions with otherseverything we do is an _expression_ of worship. (Or not.) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread Terry Clifton
>From here, his point seems to be that you do not need a community to worship, or a building, or a pastor/priest. Job, by the way, is just one of many examples of this. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And your point -- that we must shave our heads, worship flat on the groundwhile tearing

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
You dont make me feel uncomfortable except for you, Lance. Youre really out there my friend. And your concerns about the Congowhat are you and Canada doing about it? Did you have a complaint with someone other than your beloved United Nations? (Its a crooked JOKE!!!) Izzy From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-03 Thread David Miller
Terry wrote: ... I am trying to gather together all the verses that describe the coming together of the Saints. So far I have found some studying, some singing, some eating, some communion, some edifying. What I haven't found is the sermon, tithing, or the building fund. Here's a passage

RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Excellent points, Judy. Worship can be acceptable or unacceptable to God. If it feels good, it isnt necessarily acceptable to Him. I sat in on part of a church service in which the Reverend was a lesbian, and the congregation was filled with sodomites. They were quite into their communal

[TruthTalk] The Truth About the Congo

2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
US is largest contributor to UN Peacekeeping missions. UN Officials rape and abuse refugees in Congo: http://www.heritage.org/Research/InternationalOrganizations/hl868.cfm. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every

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