Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-20 Thread Dave Hansen
No, I don't believe I would die because I belong to Him DAVEH:   Would not that answer also apply to those of the OT times?   Those like Moses would be able to see God, and those who did not belong to Him couldn't?     From your above answer, may I assume you would believe that somebody that

Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!

2005-11-20 Thread Dave Hansen
Dave, why are you arguing with Christians who many many times have told you that we believe, from scripture, that God the Father is a Spirit? DAVEH:  Because Kevin begged the an answer to his question... If he is a MAN what is that man made of? Gingerbread? .Then he quoted a pass

Re: [TruthTalk] Dear DaveH (change from Dear Mormons part trois)

2005-11-20 Thread Dave Hansen
I cannot say what the future holds but that isn't what I was disagreeing with-I think you would love to convert many here on this site. And for you to say otherwise is dishonest Dave. DAVEH:   The problem I see with some TTers I've chatted with is their failure to understand how this Mormon bo

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dave Hansen
Dean Moore wrote:   I have preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ at many gatherings including the Mormon Temple. ,Catholic Churches, Mormon wards, To which Mormon Wards have you preached at and why?  Was there a particular reason (or event) that prompted you to do so?

Re: [TruthTalk] Dear Mormons

2005-11-20 Thread Dave Hansen
Remember Dave "The prophet is always right"? DAVEH:   Are you asking a Mormon what he believes, or telling him what he believes? Dean Moore wrote: cd: Lance maybe you should know that the current prophet ( Gordon B.Hinckley) is loved more than Smith and His words are received as

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:  Thank you for sharing that, Kevin.  After watching Dean preach, I do not understand why he claims not to protest Mormonism.  Seems to me that is exactly what he was doing.  Do you disagree?     BTW.I rather like the tag line, as it speaks volumes:   Real Christians behave like

Re: [TruthTalk] A question for our resident scholar

2005-11-20 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:   I see you've got dyslexia as well, G.   I'm sure you intended to say. you prob realize i'm natural stunted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you prob realize i'm a natural student (usually, of truth:) (lay some on me, Brother:)   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:46:12 -0800

Re: [TruthTalk] Flat Tax?

2005-11-20 Thread Christine Miller
LOLDave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH:   Wow G.You've twice responded to your own post.   I think that is a TT record!.must be getting cabin fever up there in the Colorado mountains, eh!    =-O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..polite but perceptive

Re: [TruthTalk] Does it REALLY matter that much?

2005-11-20 Thread Christine Miller
Hello Pete! I think you bring up excellent points, and I agree with your position that while the KJV is the best translation, it is harmful to get "bent out of shape" over the issue. I am taking an introductory course to Islam right now, and I thought I would point out that the Quran has bee

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:   Yikes...first Dean, and now G apparently has a sense of humor!   :-D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bro, there's nothin' for a polite but perceptive protestant to say but get your right wing jackboot offa the holy spirit's index finger--i think it's attached to the hand

Re: [TruthTalk] Flat Tax?

2005-11-20 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:   Wow G.You've twice responded to your own post.   I think that is a TT record!.must be getting cabin fever up there in the Colorado mountains, eh!    =-O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..polite but perceptive Protestants are somewhat intuitive like this, aren't they?

[TruthTalk] Chocolate Math

2005-11-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
      YOUR AGE BY CHOCOLATE MATH This is pretty neat. DON'T CHEAT BY SCROLLING DOWN FIRST! It takes less than a minute . Work this out as you read ... Be sure you don't read the bottom until you've worked it out! This is not one of those waste of time things, it's fun.

Re: [TruthTalk] Frank Ates

2005-11-20 Thread Taylor
No, sorry, John, I don't. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Frank Ates   Bill  --  you wouldn't happen to  have Frank  Ates phone number?

Re: [TruthTalk] Flat Tax?

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
..polite but perceptive Protestants are somewhat intuitive like this, aren't they?   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:09:18 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..the intuitive cat doesn't appreciate you petting your daughter?   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:16:42 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: he

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
you're 'Wesley only', too, Bro?   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:08:51 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: That is for you to answer.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:     On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:59:30 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dean, if anyone knows whether or not you are moody—it’s your wife.  iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 4:22 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!    

Re: [TruthTalk] Flat Tax?

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
..the intuitive cat doesn't appreciate you petting your daughter?   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:16:42 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: her's is a Protestant cat?   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:21:11 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH:   I don't think Izzy would appreciate my soot

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
That is for you to answer.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:     On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:59:30 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:I am a creature of a day. I am a spirit come from God, and returning to God. I want to know one thing: the way to heaven. God himself has condescended t

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
    On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:59:30 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I am a creature of a day. I am a spirit come from God, and returning to God. I want to know one thing: the way to heaven. God himself has condescended to teach me the way. He has written it down in a

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
bro, there's nothin' for a polite but perceptive protestant to say but get your right wing jackboot offa the holy spirit's index finger--i think it's attached to the hand of god     On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:09:28 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ..gary is still thinking about

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
I am a creature of a day. I am a spirit come from God, and returning to God. I want to know one thing: the way to heaven. God himself has condescended to teach me the way. He has written it down in a book. Oh, give me that book! At any price give me the book of God. Let me be a man of one book. Jo

Re: [TruthTalk] Frank Ates

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
  Bill  --  you wouldn't happen to  have Frank  Ates phone number?  i have it but it is at the shop and I wanted to call him tonight  --   not critical.      Et al  :   One of the differences between the two covenants referenced in Jere 31:31-34 is this leadership of the spirit.   We, here on TT

RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
cd: So Kevin when are you going to answer my questionere-You, Charles, and David are the only ones that haven't-Gary is still thinking about the first question. ( Another darn questionere)? Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. -Original Message-From: Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:22:04 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers? It's not John's mind that can't spell; it's those stupid fingers :>)

Re: [TruthTalk] A question for our resident scholar

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
you prob realize i'm a natural student (usually, of truth:) (lay some on me, Brother:)   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:46:12 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH:   So far G, you have not exhibited such tendencies    ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: non-thinkers

Re: [TruthTalk] Flat Tax?

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
her's is a Protestant cat?   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:21:11 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH:   I don't think Izzy would appreciate my soothing her any more our daughter's cat appreciates my petting her![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (maybe you can soothe her in her

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread Taylor
It's not John's mind that can't spell; it's those stupid fingers :>) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers? http://www.gorge

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://www.gorge.org/techiedom/iqtest.shtml Spelling The ability to spell can indicate general intelligence. Remembering a set sequence of letters indicates the mind's ability to retrieve remembered facts. Learning how to spell and use the words of a language is almost a complete IQ test in i

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
true, Pastor--these are not my answers; merely an objective '?'   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:45:15 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps these are not G's answers at all !!  Could it be that the answers seem mutally exclusive of the other?    JD  -Original Message-From:

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is not a question of anything but, you are not worth answering. It is like dealing with a CULTIST. I have better things to do with my time. If anyone else is interested I will answer the questions for them. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:"That guy" did not "repent" of anything.   Just a silly

Re: [TruthTalk] Does it REALLY matter that much?

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
Good comments.   I might add that many Christians do not read the Bible much, and certainly do not "study" the book  ---   my wife being one of the many.   at the same time ,  I put her in the top 5% of those I have known over the years who are led by the Spirit.     JD  -Original Mes

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
I wasn't aware that rightwingers had a sense of humor.  I will make note of my error and look for the lighter side in your comments  .   seriously.  by the way,   I don't recall you saying anything that sounded insulting to me.   .   just so you will know.    Jd  -Original Mes

RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
Have you ever protested at an LDS Conference in SLC, or at the site of an LDS Temple or chapel?  If notwould you do so?  If so, then you would meet the one of the criteria of being an anti-Mormon as LDS folks have coined it.  If you haven't done any of those things (or others that might quali

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-20 Thread Taylor
    cd: John why don't you just show us some of the mistakes in the KJ?       Is this a serious request, in that you want to have an informative discussion? If so, do you mind if I reply? Bill       cd: By all means feel free to do so at your leisure: :-)   Hi Dean,   Since the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread Dave
I got censured this very morning, in the name of Jesus mind you, for essentially concurring with your take on the 'intent' of the anti-Mormons who frequent TT. DAVEH:   Yeah Lance, I saw that. :-(     As you may have seen in the past, there is a guilt by association attitude here in TT.

RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Peter Krostag
     1 After the fall can man chose to come to God on his own?   Man chooses everything he does except if they are possessed.   2. Does our good have a to do with any condition for God giving us salvation (ie. Christian view of we can/are saved now).   No man is go

Re: [TruthTalk] Dear Mormons

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Lance maybe you should know that the current prophet ( Gordon B.Hinckley) is loved more than Smith and His words are received as Gospel. He can actually change the Mormon religious structure. Remember Dave "The prophet is always right"?     - Original Message - From: Dave To: Trut

RE: [TruthTalk] Does it REALLY matter that much?

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Interesting Peter-care to take my questionere Brother Peter(ie Another darn Questionere)?     - Original Message - From: Peter Krostag To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 5:35:16 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Does it REALLY matter that much?     Brothers and Sister

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread Dave
DAVEH:  In my case, the Pastor is not suffering a delusion. ShieldsFamily wrote: We also expect JD to suffer from the delusion that he has a higher I.Q. than anyone who has a differing viewpoint.  iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behal

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 5:19:17 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! So if you think it is all about you then that is your choice but not true.DAVEH:  Now it's becoming a matter of semantics, Dean.  No,

Re: [TruthTalk] A question for our resident scholar

2005-11-20 Thread Dave
DAVEH:   So far G, you have not exhibited such tendencies    ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: non-thinkers are teachable?   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:00:12 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Just be careful who you allow to “teach” you!

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread Dave
I took a nap I could have dreamed I answered it already-unless I am still asleep-ouch-no I'm awake:-). DAVEH:   Deanyou've got me in stitches!  :-D Dean Moore wrote:   JD  cd: I thought I answered this once already-but as I took a nap I could have drea

Re: [TruthTalk] Dear Mormons

2005-11-20 Thread Dave
DAVEH:  Please repost it.  I vaguely remember it, and also vaguely remember responding to part of it, but assumed that the comment IFF Joseph Smith goes then, you all go was mostly rhetorical.  LDS folks usually consider the BoM to be the keystone of our religion, as per JS's suggestion.  From

[TruthTalk] Does it REALLY matter that much?

2005-11-20 Thread Peter Krostag
    Brothers and Sisters in Christ do you have an answer for Daves question as to why we allow our Bibles to remove God's words with no objections and cut Smith to pieces for doing the same thing???   Pete responds:  We really didn’t ALLOW this to happen.  It just did.  

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 5:08:13 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! Will you be sobering up any time soon, or is this the new Dean-O?    JD  cd: By the way I have been playing with you for 2 days now and

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 5:08:13 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! Will you be sobering up any time soon, or is this the new Dean-O?    JD    cd: I am not drunk just rested up as I took this weekend off-

Re: [TruthTalk] Flat Tax?

2005-11-20 Thread Dave
DAVEH:   I don't think Izzy would appreciate my soothing her any more our daughter's cat appreciates my petting her! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (maybe you can soothe her in her suffering, another one of your Christian concepts she'll be able to appreciate:)   On Sat, 19 Nov 2005

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dave
So if you think it is all about you then that is your choice but not true. DAVEH:  Now it's becoming a matter of semantics, Dean.  No, I don't think you are only preaching to meor Mormonism.    If you were to preach the message of Jesus as you perceive it in SLC throughout the year, then I

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 4:58:07 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!       - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 4:45:15 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTal

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
Will you be sobering up any time soon, or is this the new Dean-O?    JD  -Original Message-From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:57:40 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!       - Original Message - Fr

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 4:45:15 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! Perhaps these are not G's answers at all !!  Could it be that the answers seem mutally exclusive of the other?    JD  cd: Thanks Jd-good

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 4:20:43 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! ..NASV/B cd: Are we already on the "B" version? What happened to "A"? Man I thought I was getting all my e-mail-must be the Medium security

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
Perhaps these are not G's answers at all !!  Could it be that the answers seem mutally exclusive of the other?    JD  -Original Message-From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:44:38 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 4:16:24 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! (and there prob won't be any directly, at least until Dean opens up a dialog about the NSAB/V) cd: I am still thinking-that is ok isn't it

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
ftr, this is one question (mark) for somebody (in part, to retain objectivity, avoidg 'motive' issues); no answers from g   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:44:38 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd: Man? Where is 1-3 Gary or are you still thinking?Take you time-anytime before the e

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
(and there prob won't be any directly, at least until Dean opens up a dialog about the NSAB/V)   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:06:13 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ftr, this is one question (mark) for somebody (in part, to retain objectivity, avoidg 'motive' issues); no answers from g  

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 4:11:20 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! ftr, this is one question (mark) for somebody (in part, to retain objectivity, avoidg 'motive' issues); no answers from cd: Say what? I am

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
..NASV/B   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:12:12 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (and there prob won't be any directly, at least until Dean opens up a dialog about the..)   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:06:13 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ftr, this is one question (mark) for somebody

RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 3:16:20 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! cd Thanks again. Oops.  Make that affirmative.  J iz   4. Can one reject God and salvation ? No.  

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Man? Where is 1-3 Gary or are you still thinking?Take you time-anytime before the end of the Tribulation will be fine. As I am using this for comparisons please answer on the same page-I bet you teachers in school hated you guts-Do any drive by your house real slow?     - Original Messa

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 1:33:47 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers What I have done is to ask a series of questions asfter answering all that was given to me.   Will you answer the single question I have

RE: [TruthTalk] Forgiveness

2005-11-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
I ascribed no “motives” whatsoever to you.  What motives do you think I commented on? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 2:22 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Forgiven

Re: [TruthTalk] Forgiveness

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
  Is there some reason why you find it necessary to comment on my motives  as opposed to actually  answering the question that I so plainly asked, to wit:  How do these words ( of Christ ) relate to any discussion of law and grace? " ?  The sermon is full of "rules"  that none of usobey."   So

RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oops.  Make that affirmative.  J iz   4. Can one reject God and salvation ? No.  

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
What I have done is to ask a series of questions asfter answering all that was given to me.   Will you answer the single question I have asked of you,  Dean,   AND those that I have asked of Mr Deegan?     Jd  -Original Message-From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglor

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
  -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 22:53:01 -0500Subject: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers     Brothers and Sisters in Christ do you have an answer for Daves question as to why we allow our Bibles to r

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
pls permit me to think, Bro--what law forbids that?   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:56:31 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd: Gary what are you doing? Just answer the stupid questions and leave Cadbury out of it:-)   - Original Message - From: To:

Re: [TruthTalk] A question for our resident scholar

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
non-thinkers are teachable?   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:00:12 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Just be careful who you allow to “teach” you!   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Sunday, November 20

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
?   || 4. Can one reject God and salvation ? No.   5. Can a person "fall" from the Grace of God (lose salvation in the traditional Christian view)? Yes.

Re: [TruthTalk] Flat Tax?

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
evidence suggests it's this way:   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:50:14 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [false]; i don't think   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:02

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Gary what are you doing? Just answer the stupid questions and leave Cadbury out of it:-)     - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 12:36:13 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!     On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:03:11 -0500 [EMAIL P

Re: [TruthTalk] Forgiveness

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
what's the relationship betw *thinking* and thoughtlessness?   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:44:45 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John made no such claim, Linda   --   nothing even close to what you have said.    I do not know why you right wingers *thin[k]* you have accom

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread Lance Muir
Dave:I got censured this very morning, in the name of Jesus mind you, for essentially concurring with your take on the 'intent' of the anti-Mormons who frequent TT. You are wise to sidestep their non-sincere questions.I think CPL et al actually believe that in peppering you with a plethora o

Re: [TruthTalk] Dear Mormons

2005-11-20 Thread Lance Muir
Yes. I did a second post concerning a 'house of cards' framework vis a vis groups which stand or fall based upon the legitimacy of a central figure or figures. I referenced 'solipsism' (a philosophy). Example: IFF Joseph Smith goes then, you all go. It was longer than this but, along this li

Re: [TruthTalk] Forgiveness

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
John made no such claim, Linda   --   nothing even close to what you have said.    I do not know why you right wingers thing you have accomplish anything when you so willingly misrepresent what is written by those you find disagreeable.   I guess the motto that is in play, here, is "th

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 12:26:05 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers Do you think I am a liar, DEan?    JD  cd: I thought I answered this once already-but as I took a nap I could have dreamed I answered

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Then explain Romans 8:1 and Luke 4:4 and their respective missing scripture to me? What is you take on this? Have you looked into this phenomenon?     - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 12:21:58 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revis

Re: [TruthTalk] No wonder the professing church is so sick (read BAD BIBLE TRANSLATIONS)

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
Gotcha  !!!    :--)    Ouch !!  -Original Message-From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:07:06 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] No wonder the professing church is so sick (read BAD BIBLE TRANSLATIONS) The subject line was a quote from

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
    On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:03:11 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   4. Can one reject God and salvation ? ..the most critical of questions on this list.    And the answer depends on one's concept and definition of "salvation."   The pro

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor-TTers?

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
Actually,  I asked a series of questions  -  none of which were ansered.   My concept about "I.Q. levels" applies to those who enjoy calling people "liar"  when they cannot come up with anything intelligent to say  ---but who cares aobut context,  right???   JD  -Original Message--

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ttxpress
while she thinks more like Izzy than Bill, describe the relationship(?)   On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:09:59 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: No. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, November 20,

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
Do you think I am a liar, DEan?    JD  -Original Message-From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:47:30 -0500Subject: Re: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTa

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
"That guy" did not "repent" of anything.   Just a silly rumor.   NASV is based upon a greek text that is older than the Church controlled Byzantine text of the 1500's.   There is nothing sinister or worthy of "repentance" in the translating of the NASV.  The fact that no one is going to answer the

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread knpraise
     1 After the fall can man chose to come to God on his own?  Man had the ability of choice for the beginning  -   so yes.   2. Does our good have a to do with any condition for God giving us salvation (ie. Christian view of we can/are saved now).  There is none good but the Father  -

Re: [TruthTalk] Dear Mormons

2005-11-20 Thread Dave
Now, as to 'Dear Mormons, part deux'? DAVEH:  ???   Help me out Lance.to what are you referring?  Did I overlook something? Lance Muir wrote: Thanks. This is helpful. Now, as to 'Dear Mormons, part deux'?   L  - Original Message - From: Dave

RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Ask him.  To me it is like water off a duck’s back, because I am anti-anything that is against the true gospel of Christ, and don’t mind being accused of such one whit. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:39 A

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-20 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: Dave, Thanks for answering at least one of the several questions I asked below. Your silence on the others speaks volumes. DAVEH:   What speaks volumes is that I will answer the same questions coming from another who is more sincere in their asking.

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dave
DAVEH:   Are you sure about that, Izzy?  If you are correct, then why did Perry feign offense that I referred to him as an anti-Mormon? ShieldsFamily wrote: DaveH, please let me dissuade you from the false assumption that being called “anti-mormon” by mormons bothers a

RE: [TruthTalk] Forgiveness

2005-11-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
It was mine, as JD wrote: “we have Christ presenting a prayer that is nowhere repeated in scripture;…we have a "correction " of the Mosaic law on divorce;   we have new definition on hate and murder;   we have His amendment on "an eye for eye"     a part of the Mosaic law; How do these

RE: [TruthTalk] Forgiveness

2005-11-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Then we agree completely. iz -Original Message- > John, > >You say, "In the Sermon on the Mount, we have Christ presenting a prayer Izzy: I have been dwelling on our discussion yesterday involving forgiveness and would like to add a few things. If a person doesn't ask forgiveness th

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Terry Clifton
     If any other TTer would like to answer these  questions-I would be delighted.    1 After the fall can man chose to come to God on his own? The decision to surrender to the Lordship of Christ has to be

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Taylor
Yes. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! I disagree with 'Bill the theologian'. Both Bill Taylor and Judy Taylor are adoptees

RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Thank you sister.     - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/20/2005 9:41:19 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! Izzy in blue:   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean MooreSent: Satur

[TruthTalk] Forgiveness

2005-11-20 Thread Dean Moore
> [Original Message] > From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 11/20/2005 9:37:49 AM > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A question for our resident scholar > > Verifying my statement that the Sermon on the Mount is NOT out of alignment > with the rest of scripture as JD claims. iz > > ---

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Lance Muir
I disagree with 'Bill the theologian'. Both Bill Taylor and Judy Taylor are adoptees into the same family. (see Ephesians) - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 20, 2005 10:09 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Ques

Re: [TruthTalk] Forgiveness

2005-11-20 Thread Lance Muir
It is also not my impression. Lance (John??) - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 20, 2005 10:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Forgiveness Verifying my statement that the Sermon on the Mount is NOT out of alignment w

Re: [TruthTalk] Forgiveness

2005-11-20 Thread Taylor
Verifying my statement that the Sermon on the Mount is NOT out of alignment with the rest of scripture as JD claims. iz   It was not my impression that John thought this. Bill  

Re: [TruthTalk] No wonder the professing church is so sick (read BAD BIBLE TRANSLATIONS)

2005-11-20 Thread Lance Muir
The subject line was a quote from Judy. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 20, 2005 09:54 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] No wonder the professing church is so sick (read BAD BIBLE TRANSLATIONS) FYI, Lance, wh

Re: [TruthTalk] A question for our resident scholar

2005-11-20 Thread Lance Muir
IFF 'it means what it says' meant what Iz, Judy et al thought then, there would be no need for  teachers. A word to the wise 'THERE IS A NEED FOR TEACHERS'! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 20, 2005 09:45 Subjec

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-20 Thread Taylor
No. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 5:46 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! Thank you Bill-I think. Are you any relation to Judy?     - Original Me

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