Re: [TruthTalk] Judy Taylor - kind of a surprise !!

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
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Re: [TruthTalk] Judy - we are still waiting !!

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
Once again, your scripture? I think I know which one, but my translation speak of those who "had not sinned after the order of Adam's." -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What does this mean -- Death ruled from Adam to Moseseven over those who had not sinned

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-24 Thread David Miller
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? As far as I know, temptation preceeds sin and sinning. And temptation appeals to personal desire (called lust by James). Human nature is sin nature. I do not mean to say that a sin nature sins

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-24 Thread knpraise
Hello, David. My comments below . I don't disagree with your understanding that the root of temptation is found in the lust of our flesh, but the forcefulness of that flesh to move us in a certain direction is not the same in all people now, and it was not the same in Adam Eve before the

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/22/2006 9:09:34 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Are you saying that Christ sinned and served Satan John? Notice 1John started by warning of deception-He

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: Regarding Adam and Eve - if they did not have a sinful nature before their decision to disobey the Lord, they would have never disobeyed Him !! What is your basis for this assumption, John? Consider the following passage: Ezekiel 28:15 (15) Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread Lance Muir
DAVID: Do you intend to answer my questions concerning your thesis? Lancel - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 23, 2006 08:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? JD wrote: Regarding Adam

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Do you intend to answer my questions concerning your thesis? Sorry, Lance. I have lots of unread messages. What thesis? What questions? David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread Lance Muir
Ph.D. thesis, David. Title, chapter headings, availability to be read? That one! Lance - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 23, 2006 09:18 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Lance wrote: Do

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Ph.D. thesis, David. Title, chapter headings, availability to be read? That one! In my biology program, we did not have a thesis for the Ph.D. We had a dissertation. I never completed this part of the Ph.D. program; hence, I never earned a Ph.D. My Master's thesis concerned

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks David. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 23, 2006 13:38 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Lance wrote: Ph.D. thesis, David. Title, chapter headings, availability to be read

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread knpraise
As far as I know, temptation preceeds sin and sinning. And temptation appeals to personal desire (called "lust" by James). Human nature is sin nature. I do not mean to say that a sin nature sins !! Christ had this very nature - I believe you called it "sinful flesh" on several occasions in the

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-22 Thread Dean Moore
of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 12:23:27 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? I know this is too

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-22 Thread Judy Taylor
not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 12:23:27 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? I know this i

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-22 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/22/2006 8:05:45 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Hallelujah!! Thank you Dean. Maybe now we can make some headway; you are right on the mark

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-22 Thread knpraise
vil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 12:23:27 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? I know this is to

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Bill I have condenses articlewritten by Darby: Do you agree with it?If not why? This shews us the Christ standing in the midst of those who are saved, whom God brings to glory, although at their head. It is this which our epistle sets before us — He who sanctifies (the Christ), and they

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: January 21, 2006 07:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? cd: Bill I have condenses articlewritten by Darby: Do you agree with it?If not why? This shews us the Christ standing in the midst of those who are saved, whom God

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 7:17:47 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? One would assume, Dean, that herein lies something of your own understanding on the matter at hand. Why not draw

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Ah! This then would put JND in the position of denying that which Bill Taylor is affirming. Allow me to suggest that if JND's understanding

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 8:26:24 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Ah! This then would put JND in the position of denying that which Bill Taylor is affirming. Allow me to suggest

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
a little short. Thereafter, I'd ask him to read the balance of what I said. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 21, 2006 09:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? - Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 9:26:25 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? 1. Yes cd:Then if I prove myself right you will have to live with your hersery or repent to God and others whom you called

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread knpraise
I know this is too long -- but please take the time. I was having one of the moments in the Lord. If doesn't work for you, then it was just for me. I can live with that !! jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd: Bill I have condenses

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Taylor
al Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? cd: To help us understand each other better: What part do you not agree with the below written by Darby.

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: January 20, 2006 07:44 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Hi Dean, thanks for caring enough about this subject to search out and post this. I hope you do not mindifI decline comment, as it is much too long to critique point by point. I would prefer

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Taylor
Scripture. Is she unaware of that too? I don't think so. Bill - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? IFO and, I may be the last

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: January 20, 2006 08:04 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? I will still entertain that possibility, Lance; however, it is becoming rather obvious to me that her constant attacks against the early fathers (not to mention every other theologian we hold dear

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Judy Taylor
well. Take care, Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? cd: To help us understand each oth

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Judy Taylor
well. Take care, Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] J

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: I am amazed that anyone reading Church history would want to hold the early fathers in such honor and follow their example. With their politics, heresy hunting, banishing those who didn't agree with them etc. Where is the love? and faith for that matter. Why choose dead

[TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy wrote: I am amazed that anyone reading Church history would want to hold the early fathers in such honor and follow their example. With their politics, heresy hunting, banishing those who didn't agree with them etc. Where is the love? and faith

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread David Miller
. Rather, perhaps we should offer them a little more respect because they have already finished the race and are waiting for us to finish ours. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: [TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Lance Muir
Well said, David. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 20, 2006 12:19 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Judy wrote: I am amazed that anyone reading Church history would want to hold the early

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Lance Muir
Well said again, David. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 20, 2006 16:09 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Hi Judy. Calvin is generally NOT considered a church father. I think over

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread knpraise
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy wrote: I am amazed that anyone reading Church history &

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread knpraise
sources from Church history. This to me speaks not only to her theology, but to her character as well. Take care, Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, Dav

[TruthTalk] Judy?

2006-01-19 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Judy is what Bill say in the below true-do you view Christ as being made of a special kindof flesh? - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/18/2006 10:25:23 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Certainly I think Jesus was

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy?

2006-01-19 Thread Judy Taylor
No I most certainly don't Dean; those are Bill's words and Bill's concepts. Not mine. What I believe is that he was not born by procreation like the rest of us since he had no human father. Mary may have contributed an ovum butthe male determines achild's gender and his spiritual

[TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-19 Thread Dean Moore
is much more precious. Note #10 Four distinct grounds may be noticed in the Chapter for the humiliation of Jesus: it became God — there was His glory; the destruction of Satan's power; reconciliation or really propitiation by His death; and capacity for sympathy in priesthood. - Original Me

Re: [TruthTalk] judy denies the deity of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread knpraise
May I write down that Judy T denies the deity of Christ? jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think so Lance, if they were you would understand that God CAN NOT die or are you of the same persuasion a certain Germanwho proclaimedGod

Re: [TruthTalk] judy denies the deity of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread ttxpress
..CPL was working on this same case from a different angletoday--death/resurrection as sides of JCs NT coin On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:10:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 00:53:01 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May I write down that Judy T denies the deity

Re: [TruthTalk] judy denies the deity of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread knpraise
I am serious and I repeat. If this is wrong, please clarify. jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] May I write down that Judy T denies the deity of Christ? jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't

[TruthTalk] Judy employs the small case 'g' when speaking of the 'god' those named below (Pun) serve!!

2005-12-19 Thread Lance Muir
IFF I've read you correctly on this then, you ought to be called on to apologize by the moderator (if he can drag himself away from the MC) "I don't believe He is the same god, JD") - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent:

[TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR BELIEVE 'THEM' Who blasphemes?

2005-12-19 Thread Lance Muir
'Them'? The Scriptures? I should actually appreciate staying with this important matter until it is abundantly clear. Clear to me, to you, and, to DAVID MILLER and to all others on TT, Judy. DAVID MILLER ACCUSED ME OF BLASPHEMY, as I recall, ON THIS VERY MATTER AND, VIS A VIS JUDY TAYLOR!

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR BELIEVE 'THEM' Who blasphemes?

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Yes Lance "them" - (that is unless you receive interpretation through some educated person that you respect). You do not believe that the scriptures I cite below are operative in my life no matter what I say which is in effect blaspheming the Holy Spirit if in fact, I am speaking the truth.

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR BELIEVE 'THEM' Who blasphemes?

2005-12-19 Thread Lance Muir
@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 19, 2005 08:27 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR BELIEVE 'THEM' Who blasphemes? Yes Lance "them" - (that is unless you receive interpretation through some educated perso

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR BELIEVE 'THEM' Who blasphemes?

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
You couldn't make this kind of a judgment call unless you considered yourself to have apprehended ALL TRUTH which would put you in the position to judge in your own estimation. On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:53:52 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NO! I very much believe that the

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR BELIEVE 'THEM' Who blasphemes?

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Your response here indicates ignorance Lance When the Holy Spirit gives understanding there is no interpretation involved One either understands or they don't .. just like a foreign language On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:53:52 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NO! I very much believe

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR BELIEVE 'THEM' Who blasphemes?

2005-12-19 Thread Lance Muir
- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 19, 2005 09:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR BELIEVE 'THEM' Who blasphemes? Your response here indicates ignorance Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR BELIEVE 'THEM' Who blasphemes?

2005-12-19 Thread knpraise
o nobody but you..oh and David 'cause I think he also believes sumpin like this. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 19, 2005 09:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR

[TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Lance Muir
"I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the CLEAR TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD' (implicit within this: AS I SEE IT/God has granted Me (Judy Taylor) the 'spiritual discernment' to see what such as Calvin Barth could not see) IMO, what is further implicit in

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
You are doing with my words what your mentors do with God's Word Lance - which is interjecting your own reasonings. As for Calvin and Barth. Barth had his own issues with God's Word which I prefer to let lie with him - Calvin however is in my face at church and heis something else. Here is

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: December 15, 2005 06:20 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally.." You are doing with my words what your mentors do with God's Word Lance - which is interjecting your own reaso

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Lance Muir
.? Perhaps we should not be upset when you charge either us or 'living/dead theologians' as the problem is indeed yours. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 15, 2005 06:37 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Probably so, no need to repeat myself; anyone who loves truth by nature hates error. I can accept that these men may have been well meaning and may have even done good things. But why camp around their error? I understand that you will not agree since you don't believe that anyone can know

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Your words are for the most part personal opinions Lance and Garys are indecipherable so I leave those to others who may be better equipped - some of you seem to get a kick out of them but I'm not interested in Dylan or the speculations of his fans.. Have you said something profound from

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 15, 2005 06:37 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally.."I take your correction to heart, Judy. As to the aforemention persons, let's just say that you've offered a much milder tre

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread ttxpress
your straw man, clearly straw On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:57:31 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But why camp around their error?

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread ttxpress
myth (noProtestant here'sthat stupid--you are really arrogant, M'am! E.g., like JC himself, acc to their writing, Protestants Calvin Lutherthemselves dismisstheir readersfrom everything contrary tofaith in God's word, in their case,inc their own folly;unlike their historic detractors,

[TruthTalk] Judy says:'FOR THE RECORD I DON't believe csl actually knew the Lord

2005-12-08 Thread Lance Muir
Your DISCERNMENT ON THIS MATTER (who knows, maybe a few other matters also) is wide of the mark.I've occasionally drawn a comparison between yourself and David Miller on this discernment thingy, Judy. Do take care won't you, Judy, in consigning persons to Hell?

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'FOR THE RECORD I DON't believe csl actually knew the Lord

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Yes Lance, I do appreciate your concern But I have yet to consign the first person to hell - it's all in your too vivid imagination. On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:19:44 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your DISCERNMENT ON THIS MATTER (who knows, maybe a few other matters also) is

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks Lance

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Are Kevin and Judy chasing them down to behead them or burn them at the stake taking away their opportunity to repent, Lord willing? The latter (as you call them) do not argue with orthodoxy as they are part of it but neither do they sanctify the Lord in their hearts which is apparent by the

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'FOR THE RECORD I DON't believe csl actually knew the Lord

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
No one is consigning persons to Hell. Persons are responsible to God if they reject his ways He is the one that will consign them FOREVER.All the great big crocidile tears in the world will not change God's truth. There is a HELL and Most people end up going there according to Jesus

[TruthTalk] Judy says: IF YA WANTS TA LOOK LIKE 'EM THEN READ 'EM

2005-12-07 Thread Lance Muir
Not necessarily, Judy! I most assuredly do not want to 'look', as you put it, like you, yet I do read you!n

[TruthTalk] Judy pronounces relational evangelism with feminists A WASTE OF TIME!

2005-12-07 Thread Lance Muir
Want to add anyone else to the list?

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says: IF YA WANTS TA LOOK LIKE 'EM THEN READ 'EM

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
The difference is in the way we read. You do not respect/revere me in the way you do your favorite theologians and authors and that makes all the difference. They are your teachers... and they are who you will become like On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:55:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
more time on this in 2006. izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:58 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED

2005-12-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Stone the flock. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:14 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:58 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination? Call it what you want butI see it as

[TruthTalk] Judy says 'SINCE SO MUCH OTHER NONSENSE COMES OUT OF THAT PLACE (FULLER SEMINARY)

2005-12-06 Thread Lance Muir
Anyone ever read the novel by Joseph Conrad upon which 'Apocalypse Now' was based?(nonsense penultimatesly issues from persons...Judy, Kevin) And David Miller sees you two as the 'high points' of TT? Yikes!!

[TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't read novels, we are cautioned to guard our hearts with all diligence...

2005-12-06 Thread Lance Muir
We are cautioned NOT TO READ NOVELS? May I see the hands of ALL INERRANTISTS on TT? Methinks we've got the T-shirt on this one but, I'd thoroughly appreciate hearing from David Miller on this. What think ye..will he duck this one? Yup! As to Peter Wagner and John Wimber...well...just what

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-06 Thread knpraise
openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:58:20 -0800 (PST)Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination? Call it what you want butI see it as Gods Commands to a christian to keep themselves

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
)Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?Call it what you want butI see it as Gods Commands to a christian to keep themselves pure. It is taught in the OT the New.2 Co 6 Be ye not unequally yoked together

[TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
I shall venture an answer and, would like to hear from all on this. JESUS IS THE STANDARD/PLUMBLINE. To the extent that HE is misrepresented via anything then, to that extent what is said as truth is less than the truth.

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
So now we are back to your old question - Who is Jesus? and which Jesus is the Standard/Plumbline? Is He God the Word as in Scripture or is he the figment of your or some theologian's prolific imagination? On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 06:54:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I shall

[TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
The definitive answer to your query concerning 'your own Jesus' is...well...YES.

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Meaning that everyone has their own Jesus and there is no standard of Truth? On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:16:42 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The definitive answer to your query concerning 'your own Jesus' is...well...YES. judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
INFALLIBLE. That then, would include your interpretation(s) of Scripture would it not? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 05, 2005 07:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
ry.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 05, 2005 07:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination? Meaning that everyone has their own Jesus and there is no standard of Truth?

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Read 1 Cor 2:12-16, this is the teaching and this is what I believe. Understanding rather than some man's natural or carnal interpretation is the problem. On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:53:42 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These are two rather large observations/statements. PLEASE

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Terry Clifton
Lance Muir wrote: I shall venture an answer and, would like to hear from all on this. JESUS IS THE STANDARD/PLUMBLINE. To the extent that HE is misrepresented via anything then, to that extent what is said as truth is less than the truth.

[TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
These are two rather large observations/statements. PLEASE DAVID (et al) comment on these? Another way of saying this might be:'The Word of God is spiritually discerned (1Cor2:14) therefore, it needs no interpretation. Are you, Judy, saying this?

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
And which Jesus is this? The Mormon Jesus? Jesus God's Word? The "incarnational" Jesus? On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 07:22:33 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance Muir wrote: I shall venture an answer and, would like to hear from all on this. JESUS IS THE

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
PS: Which Jesus did you evaluate Francis Schaeffers teachings in the light of? On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:36:39 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And which Jesus is this? The Mormon Jesus? Jesus God's Word? The "incarnational" Jesus? On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 07:22:33 -0600 Terry

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
Judy:You are just being silly, silly, silly!! Wasnew? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 05, 2005 08:48 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
What is so silly Lance? From what you write I get the impression that your own opinion is King... prove me wrong. please!! On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:55:46 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy:You are just being silly, silly, silly!! Wasnew? From: Judy Taylor

RE: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 5:54 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread knpraise
the church did not have ready access tomost of those document copies. jd-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:40:02 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment o

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
! iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:31 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination? There most

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
, 2005 08:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH? And which Jesus is this? The Mormon Jesus? Jesus God's Word? The "incarnational" Jesus? On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 07:22:33 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED

2005-12-05 Thread knpraise
5 08:05:49 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED Read 1 Cor 2:12-16, this is the teaching and this is what I believe. Understanding rather than some man's natural or carnal interpretation is the problem. On Mon, 5 Dec 200

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread knpraise
ifferences of opinion about whoHe is and associated concerns and yet serve the same Jesus. jd-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:36:39 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD,

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 05, 2005 08:05 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED Read 1 Cor 2:12-16

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:31 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination? There most

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED

2005-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
interpretation of in scripture is when one prophesies in tongues. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:26 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
JESUS IS LORD! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 05, 2005 10:28 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination? Perhaps we

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
ASS U ME?? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 05, 2005 10:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH? The question is: Do YOU understand that truth??? We don’t

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Jesus Himself has some input on this subject - Are you interested in hearing what He has to say??? "If you abide in My word (hold fast to My teachings and live in accordance with them), you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth and the truth will make you free" (Jn 8:31,32

[TruthTalk] JUDY QUOTES JN 8:31,32 i ASSUME to demonstrte that Scripture needs no interpretation

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
Is that what you're doing, Judy? 'Splain it to me, please?

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