California homicides dwarf Iraq
deaths
State lost 2,394 to murder
in 2004 compared to 905 coalition lives
Posted: December 2, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005WorldNetDaily.com
Recently released crime
statistics show the homicide rate in California
is 265 percent higher than the
'DEATH' is all that they have in common. IMO you
should not be in Iraq.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: ShieldsFamily
Sent: December 02, 2005 06:03
Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Stats on
deaths
California homicides dwarf
Iraq deathsState
We know thats YO.
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005
5:08 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk]
Stats on deaths
'DEATH' is all that they have in common. IMO you should not
Assuming that there will be an earth five hundred years from now would
appear to be quite a stretch. Maybe on Kolub??
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..and
500 years from now, John Calvin'sincreasingly interesting influenceon
globalfellowship with the Christ who partook of our human
Calvin would have made a good muslim.
Judy Taylor wrote:
No he didn't, deceived ppl never know they
are deceived. Calvin was drinking from a poisoned stream, his mentor
was Augustine rather than Christ. I don't
agree that he will receive a "well done thou good and faithful
Thanks for your responses, Judy. I was mainly just
curious how you understood chapter 1 in relation to chapter 2. Your answers were
clear and informative.
Bill
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
The following MAY be reade as 'offence given' BUT
it is NOT. Judy would also make a good muslim, IMO. (If anyone, other than Judy
obviously, gets this allusion then, please say so.).
- Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
Terry:
Why?
- Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 02, 2005 07:42
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: bush
song
Assuming that there will be an earth five hundred years from
now would appear to be quite a stretch.
Three reasons.
1. The signs of the times.
2. We have just about used it up.
3. With the population doubling every few years, we will run out of
room and food.
Lance Muir wrote:
Terry:
Why?
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Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To:
LOL!Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Calvin would have made a good muslim.Judy Taylor wrote: No he didn't, deceived ppl never know they are deceived. Calvin was drinking from a poisoned stream, his mentorwas Augustine rather than Christ. I don't
I do not get the allusion. What do you mean by: "Gee, Judy, you would made a great follower of satanic lies."?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following MAY be reade as 'offence given' BUT it is NOT. Judy would also make a good muslim, IMO. (If anyone, other than Judy
No problem Bill,
I'm curious about whether or not you see the
contradiction in teaching Total Depravity on the one hand
while ATST interpreting Romans 2:14,15 to mean that the
unregenerate have God's Law written on their
hearts? Israel certainly did not have that
benefit since they had to
Sometimes younger people can exhibit a
certain..well..'thickness' . Why not ask your dad if he gets it?
- Original Message -
From:
Christine
Miller
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 02, 2005 09:00
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: bush
song
I do
1. No different than the 'signs' of any other
times.
2. No using up goin' on 'round here
3. Ever heard of WAR?
- Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 02, 2005 08:44
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Assuming
500
-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 00:28:29 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship and the Adoption heresey
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:50:02 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think this refers to Israel beginning with John the B. I am open to suggestions. That seems to be the context of (John 1:14ff). the Jews had prophetical foundation to accept Him as the Christ of God and didn't.
who is 'we', Bro? (think about this, Christine:)
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005
Your allusion escapes me, but your illusion does not. Calling Judy, or
anyone on this forum a muslim is an ad-hom reference, Lance. Terry's was
too, but Calvin is not on this forum.
Perry the Moderator
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To:
Lance, what is your belief about the end times prophecies of the Bible?
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Assuming 500 more years..
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 09:36:14 -0500
1. No
3. With the population doubling every few years, we will run out of room and food.
Actually, I recently heard on network news that hte population would slow to "no growth" within the next fifty years.
-Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 00:28:29 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship and the Adoption heresey
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:50:02 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:43:46 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I cannot offer enlightenment to you, Judy.
Are you saying that you can not explain to me what
you are saying?
Yes - you are not one who
takes the counsel of others -- at least others
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 10:09:52 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Especially in view of the foregoing. To
argue that at some point in time, Jesus Christ became theSon of
God is to preach the doctrine
ofAdoption.You have man saving man instead of God
saving man -- and that
I DID NOT CALL JUDY A MUSLIM. I MEANT THROUGH MY REMARKS to suggest that,
given her remarks concerning Calvin, along with her general demeanour in
multitudinous posts, that she (biblicist - similar to a Muslim's
interpretation of the Koran, fundamentalist-every religious group's got 'em
etc.)
There are NO 'end times' prophecies in the Bible, Perry.
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 02, 2005 09:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Assuming 500 more years..
Lance, what is your belief about
I think this refers to Israel beginning with John the B. I am open to suggestions. That seems to be the context of (John 1:14ff). the Jews had prophetical foundation to accept Him as the Christ of God and didn't.
who is 'we', Bro? (think about this, Christine:)
On Thu, 01 Dec
Dream on.
Lance Muir wrote:
1. No different than the 'signs' of
any other times.
2. No using up goin' on 'round here
3. Ever heard of WAR?
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Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
December
Was that prediction nationwide or worldwide?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, I recently heard on network news that hte population
would slow to "no growth" within the next fifty years.
-Original Message-
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Then why did you not say that? It seems that you implied many many things
about Judy by saying she would make a good Muslim, when you really only felt
there was one similarity. It would help communication greatly if you would
say what you mean instead of couching hidden meanings in
Lance,
Are you are saying that ALL prophecy in the Bible has been fulfilled? Or,
are you saying there is still prophecy yet to be fulfilled, but it does not
pertain to the end' of anything? How do you reconcile the Book of
Revelation to your statement that There are NO 'end times' prophecies
I might learn to WRITE for clarity. You, Perry, might learn to READ for
meaning.
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 02, 2005 14:53
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] **Moderator Comment**
Then why did you not say
Terry:
Surely you can do better than 'dream on'. I'd not
want to dissuade an 'end-of-the-world' sandwich board wearer but, it really has
ever been thus, Terry.
- Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 02, 2005 14:07
IMO there are NO prophecies, of any specificity, relating to precipitating
events pertaining to the eschaton.
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 02, 2005 14:58
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Assuming 500
Oh yeah? I suppose you don't think the end will come on September 6,
2006 then in spite of all the evidence! Next thing I know, you be
wanting to know "what evidence", as if you weren't up to date on red
heifers. Really Lance, how blind can you be?
:)
Lance Muir wrote:
IMO
there are NO
Well Terry, if you really must know, I'm tied into
the Mayan calendar. So then, we're talkin' 2012.
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From:
Terry Clifton
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 02, 2005 17:30
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Assuming
500 more
World wide. In fact, after we reach that point, the world's populations will actually begin to decrease. -Original Message-From: Terry Clifton wabbits1234@earthlink.netTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 13:12:41 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Assuming 500 more
-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:30:31 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship and the Adoption heresey
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:43:46 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Judy -- my point is this: if you reject the notion thatJesus Christ and God are the same, then you believe that Jesus the man saved mankind - man saving man. An impossibility. Perhaps Bill could make my point clearer or Lance or Gary. -Original Message-From: Judy
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Blaine, I think Ill forward
this on to TT so everyone will know whats on your mind. You mormons are
quite interesting to say the least. iz
From:
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005
1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Izzy's sex life
Yeah, thats what happens when the
good guys are killing the bad guysyou have more deaths. iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005
5:55 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] Emailing:
So much for the political viewpoint of
scarcity because there are too many people. A woman in my book club
actually said that she and her husband only had one child because of world
overpopulation. What a crock! (Like global warming.) iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
Oh, Sept 6 sounds great to me! Where did
you hear that, Terry? iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005
4:31 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On
Assuming 500 more years..
LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN
Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers.
They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer would go to the
coast and live on fish and lobster in winter.
The 2 most important events in all of history were the
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:43:46 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I cannot offer enlightenment to you,
Judy.
Are you saying that you can not explain to me
what you are saying?
Yes - you are not one
who takes
Could it be that Lance is one of those of whom it is
written:
"To begin with, you must know and understand this, that
scoffers (mockers) will come in the last days with scoffing.
(people who) walk after their own fleshly desires and
say, "Where is the promise of his coming? For since the
Linda, have you no common sense at all.Probably the very worst of times on TT was experienced because of this matter.It is trash talk and immature on your part to bring it back into the discussion.
John-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
By the time this happens, the worlds population will have more than doubled - by the way. I am not convinced of global warming and have seen it debatedon two occasions. But I am convinced that birth control is a necessity. -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
If the Lord lingers for fifty years I guess it could happen. I heard
on the news last night that forty million people now have aids. Six
people a minute dying from aids world wide and it all started with
one person. The wages of sin.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
World wide. In fact,
I can clear that up in a hot minute. There is God, the Father, and
there is God, the Son, and there is God the Holy Spirit. Three
persons, one mind, one goal.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Judy -- my point is this: if you reject the notion
thatJesus Christ and God are the same, then you
We tortured a prophet until he revealed all he knew.
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Oh, Sept 6
sounds great to me! Where did
you hear that, Terry? iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Friday, December
02, 2005
4:31 PM
By the time what happens? Birth control has certainly worked
in China where they only allow one child per couple (and abort or abandon or
murder therest after birth), and they are going to have a major
crisis due to not enough children to care for the
elderly.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just wanted you to know what I'm being spammed with at home from
Blaine--trash talk indeed! iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:20
PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk]
FW: Izzy's sex
Way to go.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry
CliftonSent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:58 PMTo:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Assuming
500 more years..
We tortured a prophet until he revealed all he
knew.ShieldsFamily
Good enough -Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:45:33 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship and the Adoption heresey
I can clear that up in a hot minute. There is God, the Father, and there is
Lance,
Tell us, then, what you believe relative to Christ's promised return, and
his 1000 year reign. Do you believe that the earth and heavens will pass
away, and a new earth and heaven created? What do you think about the 7 year
tribulation and the beast and false prophet. Would you mind
The moderator has adressed this privately...move along folks, nothing to see
here.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] FW: Izzy's sex life
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:19:34 -0500
Linda, have you no common
I'm curious about whether or not you see the
contradiction in teaching Total Depravity on the one hand while ATST interpreting Romans 2:14,15 to mean that the
unregenerate have God's Law written on their hearts?
I'm not the one to be making this argument, Judy,
as I do not ascribe to
Terry,
The idea that this all started with one person is an absolute myth. See
if you can find Robert Strecker's report on HIV and AIDS somewhere on the
net. His research into the origin of Aids tells a different story.
Perry
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:
Perhaps Perry misunderstood your post because of his youth. I've heard it makes one thick-headed. ;-)Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I DID NOT CALL JUDY A MUSLIM. I MEANT THROUGH MY REMARKS to suggest that, given her remarks concerning Calvin, along with her general demeanour in multitudinous
cd: Don't believe it Judy -Dave Hunt is a Calvinist. That's why DavidM likes his-He speaks the word that David wants to hear.
- Original Message -
From: David Miller
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/1/2005 10:12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of
cd: I find it interesting that Lance has to ask who Jesus is. Do the brethren have to ask that question? We know his is the light-the only begotten of the father-the Lord Almighty. The Beginning and the end-The Alpha and the Omega.Praise the name of Jesus-Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God
- Original Message -
From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/2/2005 8:19:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] FW: Izzy's sex life
Linda, have you no common sense at all.Probably the very worst of times on TT was experienced because of this matter.It is trash talk and immature
cd: Bro-I have tried hard to understand you in the last few years and have fell short-but if you continue to let these these lost people speak to Izzy in the manner that they have then I will have no choice but to be you enemy-to destroyyou the eyes of the brethren in every way I can as one
Calling Judy, or anyone on this forum a muslim is an ad-hom
reference
I DID NOT CALL JUDY A MUSLIM.
DAVEH: And it is a good thing you didn't, Lance! Had you done so,
it would have been obvious that you do not understand the nature of an
ad-hom attack as defined by TT rules. Let me
Thiswas my point to Linda. The post in question is an off forum post THAT LINDA SHIELDS brought into TT.Anyone with an ounce of sense knows thatthe moderator or owner have no control when members of the forum decide to incite riot.-Original Message-From: Dean Moore
Hi Dean,
I don't know what exactly David Hunt is
(denominationally speaking) - I do know that he is DEFINITELY NOT a
Calvinist.
If you can get a hold of his book "What Love is sThis"
you would be convinced - He has done his homework and footnotes
everything
he has written in there. He has
tobe as
resilient apoliticianas Calvin's beenover the last 500 years
or so, you're gonna have to quit motherin' the pitiful President--you don't want
him to be rememberedas 'all hat, no cattle' do you?
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 00:11:37 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
leave George
protestantism,
whatever form it takes, culturally,historically generates political
enthusiasm for the KoGwhile
(e.g.)republicanismisdegenerating only for about as long
asthe King himself allowsthe world to exist
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 23:31:06 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
tobe as
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 21:07:49 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm curious about whether or
not you see the contradiction in teaching Total Depravity on the one hand
while ATST interpreting Romans 2:14,15 to mean that
the unregenerate have God's Law written on their hearts?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Judy -- my point is this: if you reject the
notion thatJesus Christ and God are the same, then you
believe that Jesus the man saved mankind
- man saving man. An
impossibility. Perhaps Bill could make my
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 00:24:34 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
cd: I find it interesting that Lance
has to ask who Jesus is.
Me too Dean - but this is what
happens to ppl who are by their own testimony "Biblicists" rather than doers
or God's Word. Didn't He
say
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