I should be able to offer up the ShootQ offices for sprint space. We're located
in Decatur next door to a tavern with great beer. Score!
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So, now that the summer is over, and my new TG project
the smart route!
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easy_install simplegeneric from PyPI and then you can see an example of
using custom jsonifiers in the test suite here:
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Replying to myself here. Any updates on TG 2.1? The silence on this has
been pretty deafening :)
Also, we've discovered another bug with the new routing, and will be
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and a sample app):
http://trac.turbogears.org/ticket/2428
I still would love to hear from someone about a rough time estimate for
another 2.1 release. Also, anything I can do to help drive this process
forward, I am happy to do.
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of
our software, and it'd be great to have some rough timelines to base
things off of.
Thanks for all of your hard work! I'll be at PyCon this year (speaking
about TG and ShootQ), and would love to buy a round of drinks for any
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As promised:
http://trac.turbogears.org/ticket/2409
Ticket now includes unit tests. Can we get this merged in?
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If you wrapped the import in a try/except and only added the generic
function stuff if simplegeneric is present on the system I think
everybody would be 100% happy, even jorge ;)
Of course, and that would be pretty easy to do. I'll work on a patch for
this tomorrow
submit a ticket with the patch when its ready, and
reply to this thread with a link to the ticket.
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Again, I'd be happy to contribute patches for either of these issues if
they are likely to be accepted. I'm curious to hear other people's
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actually use it with TG.
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ridiculously quickly (http://shootq.com). I have no doubt that TG
2.0 is one of the driving reasons behind our success. Thanks, Mark,
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system.
And as I also stated, nothing is preventing you from using Elixir
with TG2. Support hasn't been removed, really, as Elixir is just
SQLAlchemy under the hood. I am using Elixir with my TG2 project,
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when I have a chance, and I will continue to do that as much as time
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of transient data in the
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app, and then persisted into the database.
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Jonathan LaCour wrote:
Since I'm the squeaky wheel, I'll give this a shot today. I'll
let you know how it goes :)
Well, I tried, and failed :)
Looks like there is a bug somewhere in prioritized_methods. When
I replace the peak.rules `when` with the `prioritized_when`, all
sorts of things go
Alberto Valverde wrote:
If this works for you I'll release a fixed prioritized_methods
to pypi and if no one objects I'll merge this TJ branch with the
trunk too.
Works great for me.
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. If you want to remove the
defaults, you can simply delete that line from your `json.py` and
you're set!
The simplest solution is the best, IMO :)
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should
document it.
Great idea. I'd love to see this included in another alpha release
really soon now (along with the `wrap_app` change discussed
earlier). With these two changes, I am pretty sure my app will run
100% under TG 2.0.
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the stringent standards it holds for the rest of the template. You
do that like so:
div py:content=HTML(my_content) /
As for storage, I tend to put these things into SQLAlchemy Text
columns.
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the component copied into your project tree, where you can override
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simpler. However, since its using a
metaclass, its actually quite efficient at object instantiation
time, since all of the work occurs when the class is loaded (at
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, good point ;) I agree that its really not that important since
all of the dependencies are pulled automatically anyway, but I still
like the idea of having an extremely minimal core.
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/200.html).
I am also very excited by the prospect of creatin simple callables
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that bit me just
today. I think that we should solve this at a higher level, and
parameters that have multiple values should just come through as a
list of the values. I am working around this right now by using
`request.params` and it works fine for me for the time being.
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sure to use with your Elixir model.
In your model.py, you should be able to do:
import turbogears
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elixir.session = turbogears.database.session
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satisfactory.
Oh, and one more thing. Since the TurboGears default session is
transactional, you'll likely need to do a flush() manually on the
instance itself to get the generated primary key.
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automatic-transactions by
creating its own session, and expecting you to use it. You'll
likely want to use this session when using your model from within
TurboGears, and creating your own when you are using your model
outside of TurboGears.
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accomplish this without having to sacrifice the elegance of the
current solution, or making the decorator more complex than it needs
to be. I'd rather see us design @validate to be extensible by
passing in callables.
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without requiring people to understand Routes, or break their
hierarchy up into a bunch of chunks.
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considering how we can optimize this
a bit, to prevent having to re-construct the entire tree on every
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Great suggestion, Christoph. I know better than this, but was in a
rush. I have added some comments to the relevant section of code to
make sure that its absolutely clear why I am re-instantiating the
controller.
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But, I think we're on a good path here...
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lots of
bling to their app. Still others will want rich widgets and form
validation.
So, I am +1 for removing MochiKit as a dependancy, and +1 on
replacing it with a nice big empty hole for users to plug in on
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- DBMechanic can live here.
- ToscaWidgets can live here.
- Other JavaScript libraries as eggs can live here.
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simple with adequate hooks
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improved immensely since then. I'll clean
up my own code and post it, as promised, and let other people
provide their own opinions. I can completely understand your point
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the hooks in as code.
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to do this before I get back ;)
I'll let you (and the rest of the list) know as soon as I get this
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no harm in having the aliases there, and it
actually hurts me to have the aliases removed.
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, then I'd say
that going with plain SQLAlchemy would probably be the wiser decision
at this point, simply because I think that there are more current
TurboGears users using plain SQLAlchemy than Elixir.
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yours will take precedence. However, this isn't ideal. What we really
need is a way to resolve the AmbiguousMethod issue by somehow making our
constraints more specific. I don't know how to do that, however.
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the older ORM and
template
engine. They are not being removed entirely, just won't be the defaults
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inquisitive users like you pick up
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beginning to come into its
own, and is a lot of fun to use! I just want TurboGears to become a
leaner project, that is easier to maintain in the future, and bursting
these things out into separate eggs will make life a lot easier.
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TurboJSON is there for :)
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the previous tools (SQLObject, Kid), but now that there are
better tools out there, it makes sense to make the switch (SQLAlchemy,
Genshi).
Writing great software is often not about preventing change, its about
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Florent Aide wrote:
A special thought goes out to Jonathan Lacour, who will be happy to
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2.0, with
Genshi, SQLAlchemy, and AuthKit. Having a real world application out
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on enhancing the Python standard library documentation:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2007-May/073232.html
The generated docs look gorgeous, and it would be nice if we could
fit into the general look and feel of the Python standard library
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M.Gehling wrote:
in INSTALL.txt and setup.py you write, that tg2 need pylons 0.9.5.
Does this mean, i need the svn-version from pylons ?
Yes, we actually require the current svn version, as we had to fix a bug
in the Buffet template API handling in Pylons.
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weekend was a resounding success in the eyes of all that were
present, but
there is still a lot to do. A frank discussion about how to move
forward
is probably in order, and I think that will happen very soon.
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It will be relatively easy to modify the controller we have written to
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representation when needed.
In the case of @expose('json'), we default content_type to
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be hundreds or thousands of
rows) into a list, and then the pagination is just slicing the already
populated list. If you are doing this, you might as well not paginate
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Ramm and I debugged this issue a few weeks ago, and produced a
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checked into SVN yet. I know Mark is away right now, but when he gets
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offsets. The problems with it are
worsened
if you use MySQL, which has a foolish implementation of offset where all
records are pulled into memory, and then irrelevant ones are just thrown
away.
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==Division.c.Division_id
).execute()
for result in results:
print result
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defined, before accessing it:
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, but it is certainly one of the
better SOAP libraries out there.
Python is perfectly suited for web services, and I think TGWebServices
and soaplib both make it a lot easier. When (and if) the authors start
working together, I think some great things could be produced.
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Today, we are pleased to announce the release of Elixir
(http://elixir.ematia.de), a declarative mapper for SQLAlchemy. Elixir
is the successor to ActiveMapper and TurboEntity, and is a collaboration
between Daniel Haus, Jonathan LaCour and Gaëtan de Menten. Elixir's
website provides
who want something just to look at and try.
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classes in your model.py. This should
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Thanks for the interest. When we have an initial beta ready, we will
definitely email the TurboGears list to let everyone know.
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Seriously though, anyone who wants a sneak peek, just come and find
me at PyCon, and I'll show you what we have so far.
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import the widget?
The section on WhatWhat Status should cover this fairly well. WhatWhat
uses widgets extensively, and they are pretty much *all* specific to
the application. Widgets help make things like AJAX really really
simple to do, and can help you minimize duplication.
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are quite welcome.
Are there any other TurboGears talks that were accepted?
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date_picker=CalendarDatePicker()
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In my template:
ul
li py:for=item in items
${date_picker.display(field_id='picker_%s' % item.id)}
/li
/ul
... but I still get the same id on every single widget. What am I
doing wrong?
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