[twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread H M
I am playing with the OverbyteIcsSslMailSend project (from Ver 7) to see if I can send a message from gmail. Unfortunately I get an error 11004 every time I click 'connect' I found this http://listarc.com/showthread.php?2206685-SSL+send+emai+using+gmail%3F that was also asking how to use ICS to

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> I am playing with the OverbyteIcsSslMailSend project (from Ver 7) > to see if I can send a message from gmail. > Unfortunately I get an error 11004 every time I click 'connect' The V8 demo works fine for me with Gmail, although it defaults to no SSL so you must change 'SSL Type' to Explicit (St

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread H M
Thank you for a fast reply Angus (it was my first post here) Surprisingly I have just run the demot again and this time it did get as far as connecting (although I noticed that with the ordinary send mail version. - I could send lots of test emails to my own email address with no bother and the

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> However I am now getting the error > RequestDone Rq=12 Error=EIcsLibeayException Unsupported OpenSSL > version (0x0090600F) ! > Supported versions are 0x0090805F - 0x10AF > FileName: C:\Windows\system32\LIBEAY32.DLL The general rule with ICS SSL applications is always put the two OpenSSL D

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread H M
Ok, thank you for the advice. To be honest I downloaded CIS ver 7 because I couldn't really understand how to get ver 8. It talked about needing a subversion client such as TortoiseSVN, but I don't understand what that is so I just went for the simple zip download for ver 7. Maybe I'll go back

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> Ok, thank you for the advice. To be honest I downloaded CIS ver 7 > because I couldn't really understand how to get ver 8. You just download the ICSV8 snapshot zip from: http://wiki.overbyte.be/wiki/index.php/ICS_Download The main ICS web site is updated once or twice a year, the download pa

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread H M
Ok got it now from http://wiki.overbyte.be/wiki/index.php/ICS_Download. The ssl demo now works OK with gmail, just what I needed. Thank you for your help. Now I can work through the demo code to put in the error handling as you suggest and also see how much I can remove to get just the core

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> see how much I can remove to get just the > core functionality and minimum property seting needed to simply > automatically send a emailed newletter. Please do look at the Mail Queue Component I mentioned, the demo is actually a cut down version of a mailing list application I wrote 15 years ag

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread H M
OK, will do, that sounds like just what I need as each month the system will have to send about 6 emails, each with about 90 bcc in order to send an email with a 1 Mb attachment to around 550 people max without falling foul of gmails limits. Regards Howard > Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:07:00 +01

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> OK, will do, that sounds like just what I need as each month the > system will have to send about 6 emails, each with about 90 bcc in > order to send an email with a 1 Mb attachment to around 550 people > max without falling foul of gmails limits. One reason I wrote the mailer in the first p

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread H M
gmail doesn't care. There are limits of something like 2000 messages per day with 500 recipients per message but the total recipients per day (10,000) is calculated per address, so 10 emails each with 100 bcc is the same as 1000 individual emails. However with smpt that drops to 99 recipients p

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread Bevan Edwards
I agree with Angus, you would be better off to send the e-mails individually to the recipients' mail servers. A good reason for this is the consideration and handling of send failures and bouncebacks - all of which are going to end up in your gmail inbox if you are sending through gmail. A

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread H M
Sorry to bother you again but I've downloaded Magenta Mail queue and have the following problems. The .exe in the zip runs ok but no matter which host and corresponding user/password I use it always reports Can Not Open Mail Server: :25 - 426 Timeout And the .proj file I can't get to compile b

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread H M
Bevan, It probably doesn't matter if the boucebacks come into the inbox. The account is only ever to be used for this mailshot so it will help us to know which addressess in our database are incorrect so we can contact the members by post . As for your last point I don't really understand wha

Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please

2014-10-06 Thread Bevan Edwards
Hi Howard, If you're sending through gmail then the IP address is not an issue - it only becomes an issue if you are sending directly to the recipients' mail servers. I only point it out because I have encountered these same problems while implementing a solution (using ICS) to send over 10