Bevan, 
It probably doesn't matter if the boucebacks come into the inbox. 
The account is only ever to be used for this mailshot so it will help us to 
know which addressess in our database are incorrect so we can contact the 
members by post .

As for your last point I don't really understand what you mean about the IP 
address 
not being associated with the domain - or more importantly how to prevent the 
issue.
Currently we simply manually send three emails each month directly from the 
gmail web site, each with lots of bcc .
I simply want to do the same thing, or at least achieve the same effect, from 
my application.

Howard

> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 08:54:53 +1300
> From: be...@achieve.co.nz
> To: twsocket@lists.elists.org
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Help with sending mail through gmail please
> 
> 
> I agree with Angus, you would be better off to send the e-mails 
> individually to the recipients' mail servers.  A good reason for this is 
> the consideration and handling of send failures and bouncebacks - all of 
> which are going to end up in your gmail inbox if you are sending through 
> gmail.
> 
> At some point you will want/need to process the failure and bounceback 
> e-mails to ensure that the affected addresses are automaticallly removed 
> from the mailing list(s).
> 
> However, having said that, if you are going to send directly to the 
> recipients' mail servers, you need to ensure that you avoid basic spam 
> detection - such as the sending IP address not being associated with an 
> MX record for the sender's domain, etc.
> 
> Bevan
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/10/2014 7:33 a.m., Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote:
> >> OK, will do, that sounds like just what I need as each month  the
> >> system will have to send about 6 emails, each with about 90 bcc in
> >> order to send an email with a 1 Mb attachment to around 550 people
> >> max without falling foul of gmails limits.
> > One reason I wrote the mailer in the first place was so I could send
> > individually addressed emails in bulk, rather than using BCC mailing lists.
> > Takes longer if the body is large, but our bandwidths are now vast.
> >
> > Not sure if Gmail is happier with single or multiple addresses, I have my 
> > own
> > public mail server so can do what I like.
> >
> > Your application only requires the addition of domain lookup code to find 
> > the
> > MX host, and you can send directly to their mail server avoiding Gmail.
> >
> > I intend to add that to the Mail Queue component, but have not got around 
> > to it
> > yet.  When combined with the SMTP server I wrote last year, that would give 
> > us
> > a forwarding email server.
> >
> > Angus
> >
> 
> 
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