Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring

2012-08-31 Thread Brian Leach
Will So I see no reason really why it cannot be done through *this* channel. Money. People pay for support. This list is free and potentially open to people who don't pay AMC or support. As David rightly says, this is not a Rocket Support Forum and we need to be mindful of that. That's been

Re: [U2] Scrub HangUp Fixed

2012-08-31 Thread Bill Brutzman
David: On the back of a Sopranos T-Shirt... it indicates... Know Your Role. On the front... there is a smoking gun. Of course, U2 is not open-sourced... my goal role is merely that of a pragmatic customer. As Rocket monitors this list to a greater or lesser extent... that is Rocket's

Re: [U2] Scrub Fix OutCome

2012-08-31 Thread Bill Brutzman
David: I am glad to learn now that UV 11 has some major new OBDC things. Yesterday... I just released my third HTML app (runs on both mobile + desktop) that uses ColdFusion to grab UniVerse data to hydrate and launch pdf forms in the user's browser. The apps/forms... [1] Purchase Order [2]

Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring

2012-08-31 Thread Wjhonson
Not support though. Bugs. In my book, they are opposite ends of the spectrum. And a company that ignores bug reports because they don't come through approved channels is heading in the direction of Netscape and Liquid Audio. I agree there are consultants who know tricks and make customers pay

Re: [U2] Scrub Fix OutCome

2012-08-31 Thread Tony Gravagno
From: Bill Brutzman Yesterday... I just released my third HTML app (runs on both mobile + desktop) that uses ColdFusion to grab UniVerse data to hydrate and launch pdf forms in the user's browser. The apps/forms... [1] Purchase Order [2] Invoice [3] Part Inspection... were whipped up with

Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Wyatt
-Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 11:48 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring Not support though. Bugs. In my

Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring

2012-08-31 Thread Holt, Jake
In what world is isolating bug reports from any user a good idea? You're being utterly over dramatic. Just because a user submits a bug report doesn't mean you have to immediately stop all development and put your entire staff on vetting and fixing the bug. I would guess most companies fix

Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring

2012-08-31 Thread Tony Gravagno
Three topics here... From: Wjhonson 1) Not support though. Bugs. In my book, they are opposite ends of the spectrum. And a company that ignores bug reports because they don't come through approved channels is heading in the direction of Netscape and Liquid Audio. Questions and answers

Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring

2012-08-31 Thread Wjhonson
Because they want to fix bugs in their product? Really I don't comprehend the line of reasoning that says 1. Our product is defective, and here is a reported defect 2. Support dollars go for *support* not fixing our defected product 3. We won't fix defects unless someone is paying for *support*

Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring

2012-08-31 Thread Bill Haskett
G-man: I suspect it'd be nice if we were all reasonable here. Sometimes a bug is defined as a functionality that doesn't work as expected, and sometimes it's defined as a functionality that doesn't work as expected in a particular environment, and sometimes it's defined as a functionality

Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring

2012-08-31 Thread Martin Braid
Not quite succinct, but well said. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: 31 August 2012 19:14 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring Three

Re: [U2] Scrub HangUp Fixed

2012-08-31 Thread David L. Wasylenko
AMEN... Rocket has been the most responsive support I've experienced. *SOME* of the folks are a little slow getting it initially, but once they understand the problem... it's addressed. They have been very personable, friendly and professional in my experience. However, it's a tad difficult to

Re: [U2] Scrub HangUp Fixed

2012-08-31 Thread Wjhonson
A problem that's not submitted through the hierarchical bureaucracy is how I'd express it. The point being that the problem is being submit, through this list. That Rocket chooses not to listen to their own user group for bug submissions, is Rocket's choice, not the user who submitted the bug.

[U2] Friday type of question

2012-08-31 Thread Morelli, David W.
Is there an easy way to determine if a record is empty? I have a saved list of a thousand or more records that have record ID's that interfere with our Ellusian database. If they are truly empty, I can do house cleaning on them. If they contain any data, I have to do a different process.

Re: [U2] Friday type of question

2012-08-31 Thread Wjhonson
In the DICT, in an I-descriptor you can specify LEN(@RECORD) If the record has zero length it's empty. -Original Message- From: Morelli, David W. dmore...@pacificu.edu To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Aug 31, 2012 4:42 pm Subject: [U2] Friday type of

Re: [U2] Friday type of question

2012-08-31 Thread Rutherford, Marc
David, Create an 'I' type dictionary which with this function: 1 Top of REC_LEN 001: I 002: LEN( @RECORD ) 003: 004: LEN 005: 10R 006: S Select the file with your new dict = 0 SELECT PARTS WITH REC_LEN = 0 Marc Rutherford Principal Programmer Analyst Advanced Bionics LLC 661) 362 1754

Re: [U2] Scrub HangUp Fixed

2012-08-31 Thread Katie Morgan
For some odd reason, for all these years that I've lurked here, I've been under the impression that this user group was actually ours, not Rocket's (or whatever corporation has happened to own UD/UV at any given time!). If I'm wrong, then I may be in the wrong place, as I'm very interested in

Re: [U2] Friday type of question

2012-08-31 Thread Allen Elwood RR
does that still work if there are attr/value marks but everything else is null ? not sure, never tried, but i know i've seen recs with nothing but these before ellusian, lol, sounds like the aliens with the big brains that could make you see things that weren't there in star trek (had to

Re: [U2] Friday type of question

2012-08-31 Thread Wjhonson
If there is an attribute mark or value mark, they count as part of the Length of the @Record. So a record with only a single value mark, still has a length of 1. -Original Message- From: Allen Elwood RR aelw...@socal.rr.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: