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Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse
On 08/07/11 22:53
On 08/07/11 22:53, Mecki Foerthmann wrote:
Microsoft isn't struggling and they license Sharepoint only for named
users and still sell it!
Are you sure :-) (MS isn;t struggling, that is ...)
They've had several very high profile reverses lately. The obvious
example to me is the London Stock
I believe our licences (as a VAR) with Rocket specify that when we sell UniData
and SB+ it's part of the application and is only licenced to run the
application it's sold with. So it sounds valid, although they may have the
option to only sell UD and SB+ support.
Colin
From: meckif
Colin
So I wouldn't be allowed to write a single line of code using U2 or SB+
if I were one of your customers?
Because that line of code wouldn't be part of your application and
therefore would invalidate my U2 license, right?
In that case I would never buy any application software from you.
Probably not. I haven't looked at our contracts and I've only had a quick
scan of ours with Rocket so I'm not sure of the definition of application.
If you wrote a report or new interface maybe OK. If you wrote something to
keep track of your CD collection - likely not.
I'm not sure if it's just
From: Mecki Foerthmann
As I see it - I either buy a license for your
application and separate ones for the database (U2)
and development tools (SB+) or I won't buy from you at
all, it's that simple! No wonder MV is struggling!
Under the strict terms of U2 licensing, as defined by IBM
Tony,
Microsoft isn't struggling and they license Sharepoint only for named
users and still sell it!
My employer doesn't mind to pay a rather moderate license fee for 160
seats every year.
But being charged tens of Thousands of Pounds for annual application
support and every call still costs
Talk to Rocket. I have heard that there have been some discussion to resolve
this problem
David Jordan
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Hey Guys,
Have a client who has been on Eclipse since 2000. They are sick to death with
the nickle and dime (read eye gouge) tactics by Activant and want out.
Do you think Open Bravo or any of the other Open source ERP products could
replace it. Obviously with a lot of customization.
You might want to check these guys out.
Not sure if they deal with Eclipse (or if I understand what Eclipse really
is- too many buzzwords to keep up with), but, they have done plenty of
Ultimate Plus to Universe/Unidata conversions and moved people away from
Activant, while keeping the old
They would probably do QM or some other flavor too, but, for an extra fee.
It all depends on, if its been done before, etc. etc., and how much new
engineering has to be done.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:18 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.comwrote:
You might want to check these guys out.
Also ask whether your client owns the source code. If not, things get
trickier when dealing with Activant/Epicor. Fortunately, we did own our own
source code, so there wasn't much they could do, when we decided to move
away from them.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:20 PM, John Thompson
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From: David
Have a client who has been on Eclipse since
2000. They are sick to death with the nickle and dime
(read eye gouge) tactics by Activant and want out.
Do you think Open Bravo or any of the other Open
source ERP products could replace it. Obviously with a
lot of
An interesting stat about openbravo is how many devs they have on staff. I
looked at them a few years ago and it was huge.
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Well, I don't know Eclipse, but the company I currently work for is
running Avante from Epicor.
When the company wanted to cancel the Avante maintenance agreement
Epicor claimed that this would automatically cancel UniData and SB+
support as well.
Avante maintenance was a total waste of money
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Foerthmann
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Well, I don't know Eclipse, but the company I currently work
] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator
position
Funny as heck. I started writing up a few brief notes on this thread, and
immediately Epicor popped up as an Adsense advertiser in my margin.
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In a message dated 4/7/2011 12:17:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
syme...@gmail.com writes:
Now thats what you call targeting advertising - google knows everything
that
you are doing 24x7 !!
That's funny but not. I was playing with my notepad and some program
turned on my cam when I
Now thats what you call targeting advertising - google knows
everything
that
you are doing 24x7 !!
That's funny but not. I was playing with my notepad and some program
turned on my cam when I didn't even know it was going to do that. You
know those
cams spy on you when you're
Mine has never done that so far - it's an Instamatic over in the corner
gathering dust. ;^)
Charlie
On 04-07-2011 10:11 AM, fft2...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/7/2011 12:17:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
syme...@gmail.com writes:
Now thats what you call targeting advertising -
In a message dated 4/7/2011 8:32:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
ggal...@wyanokegroup.com writes:
That's why I have duck tape over my built in camera on my laptop.
I hate camera's that don't have a manual lens cover. You never know
when one of those spyware programs will activate the camera
Just Gilbert.
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Interesting indeed. I thought that I would check out the website contained
in Joe's original email bsgstaffing.com, I was not surprised that I can
not find a viable website at the address.
Bill
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: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems
Administratorposition
Interesting indeed. I thought that I would check out the website
contained
in Joe's original email bsgstaffing.com, I was not surprised that I
can
not find a viable website at the address.
Bill
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Subject: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a
distance. Am I correct that Epicor was UniData. Is it now Progress instead?
Have customers moved from UniData to Progress? Was this previously Intuit
12:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
Epicor's Avante used to run on both UniData and UniVerse. I presume that
Avante is still the same. Avante-UniData was intended for Windows Servers.
Avante-UniVerse on Unix Servers.
I am
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Subject: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a
distance. Am I correct
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Manage-2000 aka ROI is still under the Epicor flag
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Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator
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Epicor's Avante used to run on both UniData and UniVerse. I presume that
Avante is still the same. Avante-UniData was intended for Windows Servers.
Avante-UniVerse on Unix Servers.
I am not aware of any
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Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems
Administratorposition
Same story with us. Avante, Unidata, Windows. Epicor had several ERP
products and Epicor 9 was developed to be the single ERP application for
marketing. Development continues on Avante, but I don't think
I can only imagine how this feels at Rocket...
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Yeah, I had the feeling some folks took the bait in that direction
Potential
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Yeah, I
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Yeah, I had the feeling some folks took the bait in that direction,
particularly once they gave that oh-so
lol
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net wrote:
You forgot the [AD] in the subject line g.
Sound like an Epicor sales pitch to me.
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann
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Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition
You forgot the [AD
] On Behalf Of John Carter
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Administratorposition
I'm no shill for Epicor, they usually regard me as competition for
their consulting and project management services.
I just
Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition
You forgot the [AD] in the subject line g.
Sound like an Epicor sales pitch to me.
On 06/04/2011 19:34, John Carter wrote:
I don't usually contribute much to this forum - but I appreciate the chance to
stay connected
Thank you!
John
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me for interrupting.
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I'm no shill for Epicor, they usually regard me as competition for their
consulting and project management services.
I just thought that I would contribute
Funny as heck. I started writing up a few brief notes on this thread, and
immediately Epicor popped up as an Adsense advertiser in my margin.
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