RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Karen Bessel
Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP solution, as
part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe. 

Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of Orlando and
Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.

All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars (MILLIONS)
on customizing their in-house U2 software - and those systems are now
destined for the scrap heap.

So, those companies would probably *not* be good references for a stick
with U2 campaign. 




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Nestli Waters North America (Perrier), Greenwich, CT

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that
real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.
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Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Jerry
It was USC and the operator was Mike O' Rear. I hope I spelled that 
correctly.


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One of the schools out there (can't recall for sure if it was UC-B) used 
to run Prime Information on Prime systems.  One of the admins out there 
hosted the info-prime list (the predecessor to this group, IIRC.)


Aptron sells the AIMS education management software (we've been running it 
since 1981: Prime Information/Primos - Universe/HP-UX - Universe/Linux; 
in the process of moving to Colleague) that runs under Universe.


Drew

Gabriel Green wrote:

When I was a student sysadmin at UC Berkeley, the entire housing and 
dining

system, door entry cards, student payment system, et cetera, ran on a
refrigerator-sized McDonnel Douglass computer running some form of PICK (I
am curious now, does anyone here want to tell me what those ran?)  During 
my
time there I was a UNIX/Windows sysadmin but that department converted 
from

that machine to a NT4 box running UniVerse.

AFAIK, they are still using UniVerse.

Gabe
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread David Wolverton
Nestle has a global strategy no U2 developer has designed software to handle
- I see logic for that move.
Hughes got bought by Home Depot, so they go whereever they are taken - that
change was inevitable whether a good move or not.
But why would Ferguson be moving? Was the issue the application or the
database?


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 Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse
 
 Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP 
 solution, as part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe. 
 
 Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of 
 Orlando and Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.
 
 All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars 
 (MILLIONS) on customizing their in-house U2 software - and 
 those systems are now destined for the scrap heap.
 
 So, those companies would probably *not* be good references 
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Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Drew Henderson

That was it!  It's been a ln time!

Jerry wrote:

It was USC and the operator was Mike O' Rear. I hope I spelled that 
correctly.


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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Karen Bessel
I'm not sure why Ferguson is moving. It may be the fact that they are a
child company of Wolesley (a UK based building supply giant) and a
sister company of Stock Building Supply in Raleigh NC (they run
Progress-based Trend) so I think it's a consistency issue. I worked at
FEI for two years after relocating to VA from CT, caught the scent of
danger when the wind was blowing in the right direction, and got out
last fall. It's a good thing I did too, because Ferguson's U2 developers
are catching the boot left  right. 

The NWNA U2 application is a route management system built solely for
the home/office bottled water delivery business - it has idiosyncrasies
that are very different than the Nestle global initiative. I'm not sure
SAP is going to be a good fit for that particular application. 


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Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Nestle has a global strategy no U2 developer has designed software to
handle
- I see logic for that move.
Hughes got bought by Home Depot, so they go whereever they are taken -
that
change was inevitable whether a good move or not.
But why would Ferguson be moving? Was the issue the application or the
database?


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 Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse
 
 Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP 
 solution, as part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe. 
 
 Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of 
 Orlando and Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.
 
 All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars 
 (MILLIONS) on customizing their in-house U2 software - and 
 those systems are now destined for the scrap heap.
 
 So, those companies would probably *not* be good references 
 for a stick with U2 campaign. 
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread asvin . dattani
HSBC in their investment banking division have been using Universe or it's 
predecessors for the last 20 odd years and look likely to do so for the 
next twenty ..





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Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

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Re: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Jerry
Anybody know if, I think it was, Alamo or Dollar car rental agencies are 
still on a Pick database. Which ever one it was, was one of Prime's 
customers.


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I'm not sure why Ferguson is moving. It may be the fact that they are a
child company of Wolesley (a UK based building supply giant) and a
sister company of Stock Building Supply in Raleigh NC (they run
Progress-based Trend) so I think it's a consistency issue. I worked at
FEI for two years after relocating to VA from CT, caught the scent of
danger when the wind was blowing in the right direction, and got out
last fall. It's a good thing I did too, because Ferguson's U2 developers
are catching the boot left  right.

The NWNA U2 application is a route management system built solely for
the home/office bottled water delivery business - it has idiosyncrasies
that are very different than the Nestle global initiative. I'm not sure
SAP is going to be a good fit for that particular application.


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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:52 AM
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Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Nestle has a global strategy no U2 developer has designed software to
handle
- I see logic for that move.
Hughes got bought by Home Depot, so they go whereever they are taken -
that
change was inevitable whether a good move or not.
But why would Ferguson be moving? Was the issue the application or the
database?



-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Bessel
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:21 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP
solution, as part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe.

Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of
Orlando and Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.

All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars
(MILLIONS) on customizing their in-house U2 software - and
those systems are now destined for the scrap heap.

So, those companies would probably *not* be good references
for a stick with U2 campaign.

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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Tom Dodds
Give them time and they may well be stellar references for stick with U2
A lot of these get off of U2 initiatives cost a lot of money only to revert
back to U2 in the end. 

Tom Dodds
 

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Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP solution, as
part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe. 

Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of Orlando and
Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.

All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars (MILLIONS)
on customizing their in-house U2 software - and those systems are now
destined for the scrap heap.

So, those companies would probably *not* be good references for a stick
with U2 campaign. 




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Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Nestli Waters North America (Perrier), Greenwich, CT

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that
real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.
snip

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SSC Technologies, Inc.
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Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Charles Barouch

All,
Mike O' Rear was the original founder of this list. He handed it to 
Clif. After a mere nine years, Clif handed stewardship over to U2UG.

   - Chuck
Jerry wrote:
It was USC and the operator was Mike O' Rear. I hope I spelled that 
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RE: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Joseph Ruiz
Hi Karen,
   How was your weekend?
Joe

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Subject: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

I'm not sure why Ferguson is moving. It may be the fact that they are a
child company of Wolesley (a UK based building supply giant) and a
sister company of Stock Building Supply in Raleigh NC (they run
Progress-based Trend) so I think it's a consistency issue. I worked at
FEI for two years after relocating to VA from CT, caught the scent of
danger when the wind was blowing in the right direction, and got out
last fall. It's a good thing I did too, because Ferguson's U2 developers
are catching the boot left  right. 

The NWNA U2 application is a route management system built solely for
the home/office bottled water delivery business - it has idiosyncrasies
that are very different than the Nestle global initiative. I'm not sure
SAP is going to be a good fit for that particular application. 


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:52 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Nestle has a global strategy no U2 developer has designed software to
handle
- I see logic for that move.
Hughes got bought by Home Depot, so they go whereever they are taken -
that
change was inevitable whether a good move or not.
But why would Ferguson be moving? Was the issue the application or the
database?


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Bessel
 Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:21 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse
 
 Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP 
 solution, as part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe. 
 
 Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of 
 Orlando and Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.
 
 All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars 
 (MILLIONS) on customizing their in-house U2 software - and 
 those systems are now destined for the scrap heap.
 
 So, those companies would probably *not* be good references 
 for a stick with U2 campaign. 
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Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Drew Henderson
I was thinking someone else hosted it awhile before Mikebut my 
memory may be having some multiple bit errors!  It's been a long time 
since the info-prime days.


Drew

Charles Barouch wrote:


All,
Mike O' Rear was the original founder of this list. He handed it 
to Clif. After a mere nine years, Clif handed stewardship over to U2UG.

   - Chuck
Jerry wrote:

It was USC and the operator was Mike O' Rear. I hope I spelled that 
correctly.


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Re: Spam:Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Jerry
I also have that feeling but I could be wrong after all that was shortly 
after Al Gore invented the internet.


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I was thinking someone else hosted it awhile before Mikebut my memory 
may be having some multiple bit errors!  It's been a long time since the 
info-prime days.


Drew

Charles Barouch wrote:


All,
Mike O' Rear was the original founder of this list. He handed it to 
Clif. After a mere nine years, Clif handed stewardship over to U2UG.

   - Chuck
Jerry wrote:

It was USC and the operator was Mike O' Rear. I hope I spelled that 
correctly.


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RE: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Norman Morgan
 I was thinking someone else hosted it awhile before 
 Mikebut my memory may be having some multiple bit errors! 

I thought that was called a Backward Link Error

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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Dean.Armbruster
While it is true that Ferguson is on a path to SAP, the rollout is still
several years out.  Until then, we are still enhancing our current
UniData applications.  With the rollout dates still uncertain, and the
off chance that the change will be cancelled, we aren't about to leave
our user base falling behind without new enhancements.  Ferguson is
moving to SAP so that all Wolseley companies will be on the same
package.

As far as developers catching the boot left  right, that is a
stretch.  Over the past year, two developers have been dismissed, and
both were due to poor performance.  A few of others have left on their
own for their own reasons, but the rate is no greater than a normal
turnover rate.  At least one who left attempted to return, but had
burned their bridges.  We have more developers now than we've ever had,
and we're hiring.  So, if any quality developers are interested in the
challenge of working in an environment with 9 interconnected UniData
servers with up to 3500 users and 5000 udt sessions each, look us up.

Dean Armbruster
UniData DBA/System Analyst
Wolseley North American Division * 12500 Jefferson Avenue * Newport News
* VA * 23602-4314
T: +1(757) 989-2839 * F: +1(757)989-2801 * E:
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Theale Nr Reading RG7 4GA United Kingdom

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 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Bessel
 Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:15 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

 I'm not sure why Ferguson is moving. It may be the fact that
 they are a child company of Wolesley (a UK based building
 supply giant) and a sister company of Stock Building Supply
 in Raleigh NC (they run Progress-based Trend) so I think it's
 a consistency issue. I worked at FEI for two years after
 relocating to VA from CT, caught the scent of danger when the
 wind was blowing in the right direction, and got out last
 fall. It's a good thing I did too, because Ferguson's U2
 developers are catching the boot left  right.

 The NWNA U2 application is a route management system built
 solely for the home/office bottled water delivery business -
 it has idiosyncrasies that are very different than the Nestle
 global initiative. I'm not sure SAP is going to be a good fit
 for that particular application.


 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 David Wolverton
 Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:52 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

 Nestle has a global strategy no U2 developer has designed
 software to handle
 - I see logic for that move.
 Hughes got bought by Home Depot, so they go whereever they
 are taken - that change was inevitable whether a good move or not.
 But why would Ferguson be moving? Was the issue the
 application or the database?


  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Karen Bessel
  Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:21 AM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse
 
  Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP
 solution, as
  part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe.
 
  Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of Orlando and
  Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.
 
  All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars
  (MILLIONS) on customizing their in-house U2 software - and those
  systems are now destined for the scrap heap.
 
  So, those companies would probably *not* be good references for a
  stick with U2 campaign.
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Re: Spam:Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-30 Thread Drew Henderson
As much as I hate to admit it, but I found some email from info-prime 
from 1994, and it was hosted on eeyore at USC then.  I found a 
reference on the web to the list being hosted by Al Costanzo at Kean in 
1991.  I also found a reference to a USC ARPA list from 1987. 


Drew

Jerry wrote:

I also have that feeling but I could be wrong after all that was 
shortly after Al Gore invented the internet.


- Original Message - From: Drew Henderson 
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Subject: Spam:Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse


I was thinking someone else hosted it awhile before Mikebut my 
memory may be having some multiple bit errors!  It's been a long time 
since the info-prime days.


Drew



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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-28 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], will [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes

Was the SAS you listed as a Universe user the privately held corporation
  headquartered here in Cary/Raleigh North Carolina?  If so that's pretty
  impressive because they are the largest privately held IT corp in the world
  with sales of 1.9 Billion U.S. Dollars per year!
  Will


More likely, it was Scandinavian Airlines System (or whatever the 
acronym stands for).


UV/UD is quite big in the travel industry.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-28 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], will [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes

Who spent those millions?  Who would you talk to about such a story?

Will

Anthony Youngman wrote:

Reynolds  Reynolds?

Look on the u2ug web site - you might find the story there. They spent
MILLIONS converting their product to SQL-Server, and the SQL version
floated about as well as a lead balloon. They ended up scrapping it.

Cheers,
Wol


If you want that sort of story, google for oxford health pick. They 
were a pick-based (might well have been UV) health insurer. (Trying to) 
switch away from Pick pretty much sent them from market leader to near 
bankruptcy.


Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-28 Thread Dawn Wolthuis

Morningside College, in my neck of the woods, uses Aptron on UniVerse.
The Aptron web site likely says how many customer sites they have.
There are some interesting stories in the history of Aptron, though I
know only a little about it.

1) Deb Atkinson Perry, an IBM U2 Sales person now, was the President
of the AIMS group when I evaluated the product prior to licensing
Datatel software. She had been a user until some users bought out the
company when it was otherwise folding.

2) AIMS from Aptron and Colleague from Datatel started with the same
code.  I do not know the story of how there was a split where the
product was developed by two companies independent of each other after
some point (if anyone does, I'm curious). After some of the problems
that AIMS had in competing with Datatel, several AIMS customers
switched to Colleague (Regis University, for example).

3) When choosing where to go from Prime Information, AIMS chose
UniVerse and Datatel chose UniData.

As for companies using UniVerse, I have worked with a wholesale
plumbing and heating company that had Intuit as their VAR, using the
Intuit Eclipse product.  I suspect that VAR has quite a few customers.

--dawn

On 4/27/07, Drew Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

One of the schools out there (can't recall for sure if it was UC-B) used
to run Prime Information on Prime systems.  One of the admins out there
hosted the info-prime list (the predecessor to this group, IIRC.)

Aptron sells the AIMS education management software (we've been running
it since 1981: Prime Information/Primos - Universe/HP-UX -
Universe/Linux; in the process of moving to Colleague) that runs under
Universe.

Drew

Gabriel Green wrote:

When I was a student sysadmin at UC Berkeley, the entire housing and dining
system, door entry cards, student payment system, et cetera, ran on a
refrigerator-sized McDonnel Douglass computer running some form of PICK (I
am curious now, does anyone here want to tell me what those ran?)  During my
time there I was a UNIX/Windows sysadmin but that department converted from
that machine to a NT4 box running UniVerse.

AFAIK, they are still using UniVerse.

Gabe
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-28 Thread Dawn Wolthuis

Dave -- Have you seen the Solutions list at
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/solutions/

It includes both UniData and UniVerse customers, but should be helpful.  --dawn

On 4/27/07, Liesse, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-28 Thread Dawn Wolthuis

Sorry, in case it isn't obvious to click on the solutions tab, try
this URL instead
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/solutions/find.html

On 4/28/07, Dawn Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dave -- Have you seen the Solutions list at
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/solutions/

It includes both UniData and UniVerse customers, but should be helpful.  --dawn

On 4/27/07, Liesse, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
 companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
 no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
 the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
 of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
 respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
 so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
 lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
 information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
 in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
 minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
 haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-28 Thread David Jordan
I would not just limit it to UniVerse.  Explain that the multidimensional
market is a large market with a number of vendors providing competitive
solutions.  The multidimension database is largely sold encapsulated in an
ISV product hence why it is not heard of a lot.  However people will have
had contact with a multiple dimensional product frequently.  If you get
spare parts for your car, your public library, a significant number of
international banks, building societies, credit unions run on
multidimensional systems. Many government departments, councils and
Hospitals use multidimensional systems.  If someone uses a Pokie machine in
a club, the company that produced the machine is likely to be a user of a
multidimensional system.  There are a range of ERP, MRP systems using U2
around the world.  A majority of University systems use U2.

I think that between Intersystems and IBM there are around 12 Million users
around the world, but I cannot get my hand to the figures.

Regards

David Jordan

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 Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse
 
 Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
 companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
 no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
 the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
 of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
 respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
 so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
 lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
 information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
 in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
 minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
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[U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Liesse, Dave
Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SSC Technologies, Inc.
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Steve Moore
Amerex Corporation
Trussville, AL 

Running everything except payroll on Universe/Windows since 1999

Epicor Dataflo 5.8.5 (soon to be 5.11.4)
Universe 10.0.21
Windows Server 2003 R2

HTH,

Steve


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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Brutzman, Bill
Dave:

We have used UniVerse as our mainstay business system since 1984.

Our business is stamping metal parts for mostly automobile manufacturers,
like General Motors.

We have been in business for approx eighty years.

We have approx 40 people.  Our annual sales is approx seven million.

I have gathered that IBM annual sales of U2 products is $100 million.

We like UniVerse a lot.  We expect to be on UniVerse... forever.

Regards,

Bill Brutzman, Mgr, IT
HK MetalCraft Mfg Corp
PO Box 775
35 Industrial Road
Lodi  NJ  07644

973.471.7770 x145 .voice
973.471.9666 .fax

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Liesse, Dave
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse


Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SSC Technologies, Inc.
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Anthony Youngman
Have William Hill dropped UniVerse now?

They used it as the back end to their on-line betting, I believe. If
they're still using it, they're a good site to quote as they are one of
the big UK bookmakers.

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: Charles Barouch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 April 2007 14:55
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Dave,
Here's a few: The New York Botanical Garden, CMP Media, Standard  
Poors.

- Chuck
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Eastwood
Hundreds of Universities/Colleges (Datatel).

Hundreds of Libraries (Dynex? Think name changed?).

Lots of Auto Dealerships (don't remember vendor, ADP?) 
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Barry Rogen
PNY TECHNOLOGIES -  THE LEADER IN  MEMORY
UV  since 1995

Barry  Rogen
PNY Technologies, Inc.
Senior  Programmer/Analyst
(973)  515 - 9700  ext 5327
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who
neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live
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nor defeat.t. roosevelt




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liesse, Dave
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Ron White

Liesse, Dave wrote:

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
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Eckel Manufacturing Company, Inc. since 1982.  Started with Prime 
Information in '82 and then

moved to PI/Open and then to UniVerse when Vmark acquired PI and PI/Open.

Ron White
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Anthony Youngman
Reynolds  Reynolds?

Look on the u2ug web site - you might find the story there. They spent
MILLIONS converting their product to SQL-Server, and the SQL version
floated about as well as a lead balloon. They ended up scrapping it.

Cheers,
Wol

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Sent: 27 April 2007 15:19
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Lots of Auto Dealerships (don't remember vendor, ADP?) 
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse [not-secured]

2007-04-27 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
State of Connecticut,  statewide child support enforcement system.

Websites that have U2 as a backend:

http://www.daedalusbooks.com/

http://www.eurotunnel.com/

http://www.aerlingus.com 


And if memory serves, IBM actually used UniVerse and Red Back BEFORE they 
bought the product lines from Informix (the old printers.ibm.com website)
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Oaks, Harold
Clark County, Washington, Jail system and 911 system uses PI/open, but
we are converting this summer to UniVerse (at last!).

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liesse, Dave
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
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Re: Spam:[U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Jerry

What do they consider a real company?

- Original Message - 
From: Liesse, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:28 AM
Subject: Spam:[U2] Users of UniVerse



Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SSC Technologies, Inc.
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Re: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Jerry
That would be Reynolds and Reynolds software that is used by most car 
dealers in the US.


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Subject: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse



Hundreds of Universities/Colleges (Datatel).

Hundreds of Libraries (Dynex? Think name changed?).

Lots of Auto Dealerships (don't remember vendor, ADP?)
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Nancy Fisher

Peninsula Truck Lines, Inc
a northwest regional carrier...

using UniVerse for at least 15 years.

Nancy Fisher
Peninsula Truck Lines, Inc
Auburn, Washington
253/929-2040
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Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse



Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SSC Technologies, Inc.
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RE: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Tom Dodds
I understand that RR has been purchased by a much smaller firm out of Texas
and the search is on, again, for a replacement for UniVerse.  

And the pendulum swings.

Tom Dodds 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:33 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

That would be Reynolds and Reynolds software that is used by most car 
dealers in the US.

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:19 AM
Subject: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse


 Hundreds of Universities/Colleges (Datatel).

 Hundreds of Libraries (Dynex? Think name changed?).

 Lots of Auto Dealerships (don't remember vendor, ADP?)
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RE: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Eric Armstrong
Does anyone know what happened to RR's programming operations in Duluth,
GA? Are they completely disbanded as was done to its Irvine, CA branch?

Eric Armstrong
Programmer/Analyst
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-Original Message-
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I understand that RR has been purchased by a much smaller firm out of Texas
and the search is on, again, for a replacement for UniVerse.  

And the pendulum swings.

Tom Dodds 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:33 AM
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That would be Reynolds and Reynolds software that is used by most car 
dealers in the US.

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:19 AM
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 Hundreds of Universities/Colleges (Datatel).

 Hundreds of Libraries (Dynex? Think name changed?).

 Lots of Auto Dealerships (don't remember vendor, ADP?)
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Symeon Breen
I think William hill are on Unidata


IF Unidata names are of any use there is Trailfinders, SAS, Aer Lingus,
Virgin Atlantic, STA travel, South African Airways, Travelbag + many other
airline and travel corporations all have Unidata as part of their
applications.

Rgds
Symeon.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: 27 April 2007 15:18
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Have William Hill dropped UniVerse now?

They used it as the back end to their on-line betting, I believe. If
they're still using it, they're a good site to quote as they are one of
the big UK bookmakers.

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: Charles Barouch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 April 2007 14:55
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Dave,
Here's a few: The New York Botanical Garden, CMP Media, Standard  
Poors.

- Chuck
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread roy
John Deere Landscapes (about 2000 seats),  Ferguson Enterprises,  Hughes
Supply,  FW Webb Plumbing

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liesse, Dave
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SSC Technologies, Inc.
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread John Hester
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liesse, Dave
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:29 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse
 
 Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some 
 prospects that real
 companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, 
 there are
 no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with 
 coming up with
 the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just 
 companies.

Momentum Group, commercial upholstery distributor serving the office,
architecture and design, healthcare, and hospitality markets.  We've
been using UniVerse since '96.  Feel free to do a product search on our
web site (http://www.themomgroup.com).  All the queries are running
within UniVerse BASIC programs accessed via UniObjects for java.  The
product file being selected is a UV type 2 hashed file and contains
about 60K records.

-John
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread will
   Was the SAS you listed as a Universe user the privately held corporation
   headquartered here in Cary/Raleigh North Carolina?  If so that's pretty
   impressive because they are the largest privately held IT corp in the world
   with sales of 1.9 Billion U.S. Dollars per year!
   Will

   Patrick J. Will Williams, President
   AMERICAN COMPUTER TECHNICS, INC.
   www.americancomputertechnics.com
   Raleigh, NC
   919 567-0042

   Symeon Breen wrote:

I think William hill are on Unidata

IF Unidata names are of any use there is Trailfinders, SAS, Aer Lingus,
Virgin Atlantic, STA travel, South African Airways, Travelbag + many other
airline and travel corporations all have Unidata as part of their
applications.

Rgds
Symeon.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: 27 April 2007 15:18
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Have William Hill dropped UniVerse now?

They used it as the back end to their on-line betting, I believe. If
they're still using it, they're a good site to quote as they are one of
the big UK bookmakers.

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: Charles Barouch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 April 2007 14:55
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Dave,
Here's a few: The New York Botanical Garden, CMP Media, Standard 
Poors.

- Chuck
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Thomas Derwin
Nestli Waters North America (Perrier), Greenwich, CT

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.
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Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Jerry

I thought Datatel also had a Universe edition.

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quote who='Mark Eastwood' date='Friday 27 April 2007'

Hundreds of Universities/Colleges (Datatel).


Just for clarity: all Datatel clients use Unidata, not Universe.

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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread will

Who spent those millions?  Who would you talk to about such a story?

Will

Anthony Youngman wrote:

Reynolds  Reynolds?

Look on the u2ug web site - you might find the story there. They spent
MILLIONS converting their product to SQL-Server, and the SQL version
floated about as well as a lead balloon. They ended up scrapping it.

Cheers,
Wol

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Sent: 27 April 2007 15:19

To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Lots of Auto Dealerships (don't remember vendor, ADP?) 
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Jeff Schasny
I noticed that someone mentioned Hughes Supply earlier. They run over 
7000 concurrent Universe users at 500+ sites in 40 states and were 
Fortune #400 with 5.4 Billion in revenue last year.

will wrote:
Was the SAS you listed as a Universe user the privately held corporation
headquartered here in Cary/Raleigh North Carolina?  If so that's pretty
impressive because they are the largest privately held IT corp in the world
with sales of 1.9 Billion U.S. Dollars per year!
Will

Patrick J. Will Williams, President
AMERICAN COMPUTER TECHNICS, INC.
www.americancomputertechnics.com
Raleigh, NC
919 567-0042

Symeon Breen wrote:

 I think William hill are on Unidata

 IF Unidata names are of any use there is Trailfinders, SAS, Aer Lingus,
 Virgin Atlantic, STA travel, South African Airways, Travelbag + many other
 airline and travel corporations all have Unidata as part of their
 applications.

 Rgds
 Symeon.

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
 Sent: 27 April 2007 15:18
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

 Have William Hill dropped UniVerse now?

 They used it as the back end to their on-line betting, I believe. If
 they're still using it, they're a good site to quote as they are one of
 the big UK bookmakers.

 Cheers,
 Wol

 -Original Message-
 From: Charles Barouch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 27 April 2007 14:55
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

 Dave,
 Here's a few: The New York Botanical Garden, CMP Media, Standard 
 Poors.

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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread will
If IBM is selling 100 Million in new Universe sites why are we not 
seeing more demands for Universe Basic Programmers?


Will

Brutzman, Bill wrote:

Dave:

We have used UniVerse as our mainstay business system since 1984.

Our business is stamping metal parts for mostly automobile manufacturers,
like General Motors.

We have been in business for approx eighty years.

We have approx 40 people.  Our annual sales is approx seven million.

I have gathered that IBM annual sales of U2 products is $100 million.

We like UniVerse a lot.  We expect to be on UniVerse... forever.

Regards,

Bill Brutzman, Mgr, IT
HK MetalCraft Mfg Corp
PO Box 775
35 Industrial Road
Lodi  NJ  07644

973.471.7770 x145 .voice
973.471.9666 .fax

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse


Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SSC Technologies, Inc.
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread John Hester
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabriel Green
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:04 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse
 
 When I was a student sysadmin at UC Berkeley, the entire 
 housing and dining
 system, door entry cards, student payment system, et cetera, ran on a
 refrigerator-sized McDonnel Douglass computer running some 
 form of PICK (I
 am curious now, does anyone here want to tell me what those 
 ran?)  During my
 time there I was a UNIX/Windows sysadmin but that department 
 converted from
 that machine to a NT4 box running UniVerse.

That was probably a Reality system.  That's the hardware I learned Pick
programming on, though it was sold by Microdata at the time.  McDonnel
Douglass aquired Microdata at some point, I think in the late 80's.
They may have renamed the OS after the aquisition, but it was still
Pick.

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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Eric Armstrong
If you google Reynolds and Reynolds and look for articles regarding their
RGS product, you'll find the info. Basically, their CEO at the time,
nicknamed Buzz, spent the money on this state of the art RGS product
which never made money but consumed huge quantities. The fallout was that
many of their Basic programming shops had to be closed or consolidated and
many of their Basic programmers, myself included, were either relocated or
laid off in order to save the company, and still that wasn't enough, as they
eventually had to merge with one of their competitors, UCS.

Eric Armstrong
Programmer/Analyst
Lobel Financial
IBM Certified Solutions Expert
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714.995.7012 fax



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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:27 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse


I was announced about 9 to 15 months ago in a press release from Reynolds 
Reynolds.  The press release was posted here on the U2 group by someone, but
I can't find it.

HTH

Tom Dodds
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of will
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:45 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Who spent those millions?  Who would you talk to about such a story?

Will

Anthony Youngman wrote:
 Reynolds  Reynolds?

 Look on the u2ug web site - you might find the story there. They spent
 MILLIONS converting their product to SQL-Server, and the SQL version
 floated about as well as a lead balloon. They ended up scrapping it.

 Cheers,
 Wol

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 Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Drew Henderson
One of the schools out there (can't recall for sure if it was UC-B) used 
to run Prime Information on Prime systems.  One of the admins out there 
hosted the info-prime list (the predecessor to this group, IIRC.)


Aptron sells the AIMS education management software (we've been running 
it since 1981: Prime Information/Primos - Universe/HP-UX - 
Universe/Linux; in the process of moving to Colleague) that runs under 
Universe.


Drew

Gabriel Green wrote:


When I was a student sysadmin at UC Berkeley, the entire housing and dining
system, door entry cards, student payment system, et cetera, ran on a
refrigerator-sized McDonnel Douglass computer running some form of PICK (I
am curious now, does anyone here want to tell me what those ran?)  During my
time there I was a UNIX/Windows sysadmin but that department converted from
that machine to a NT4 box running UniVerse.

AFAIK, they are still using UniVerse.

Gabe
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Steve Long
Dave -

Mark is kind of right.  I used to work for ADP.  Their Dealer Management
System is actually on a very, very old version of PICK (pre-Advanced).  They
have been running it for years with extreme success.

Also, Jenkon's Summit V product is in Unidata and it has been in use for close
to a couple of decades.

HTH,

Steve Long
Spyderweb Technical Services, Inc.



 Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:28:55 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org  Hi, all. My
sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real companies do,
indeed, use UniVerse. Naturally and logically, there are no references on the
IBM web site. I've been tasked with coming up with the names of a few
UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies. If any of you is willing to let
it be known that your employer uses UV, please respond as soon as possible.
Of course, this was a last-minute request, so I don't have time to go through
the normal channels to get reference lists. Again, I emphasize that we're NOT
looking for contact information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of
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is a minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.  Dave
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Brutzman, Bill
The original eMail did not say new sites.  The eMail said annual sales.

I cannot vouch the dollar amount.  I beleive that I heard it a few years ago
at
an IBM U2 product update in NYC perhaps one year after the Informix
takeover.

We pay a few thousand in yearly maintenance.

Yes... I wish that we were in greater demand.

--Bill

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If IBM is selling 100 Million in new Universe sites why are we not 
seeing more demands for Universe Basic Programmers?

Will

Brutzman, Bill wrote:
 Dave:

 We have used UniVerse as our mainstay business system since 1984.

 Our business is stamping metal parts for mostly automobile manufacturers,
 like General Motors.

 We have been in business for approx eighty years.

 We have approx 40 people.  Our annual sales is approx seven million.

 I have gathered that IBM annual sales of U2 products is $100 million.

 We like UniVerse a lot.  We expect to be on UniVerse... forever.

 Regards,

 Bill Brutzman, Mgr, IT
 HK MetalCraft Mfg Corp
 PO Box 775
 35 Industrial Road
 Lodi  NJ  07644

 973.471.7770 x145 .voice
 973.471.9666 .fax

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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 Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse


 Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
 companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
 no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
 the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
 of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
 respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
 so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
 lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
 information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
 in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
 minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
 haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

 Dave Liesse
 Quality Manager
 SSC Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread montgomery

Howdy,

when i worked on the UCB housing system in the early 80's, i'm pretty 
sure it was running on a Mentor 4000. at that time the dining system ran 
on some version of Unix, and information was transfered from (and maybe 
to) it via a serial connection. :)



 \\//_


John Hester wrote:

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When I was a student sysadmin at UC Berkeley, the entire 
housing and dining

system, door entry cards, student payment system, et cetera, ran on a
refrigerator-sized McDonnel Douglass computer running some 
form of PICK (I
am curious now, does anyone here want to tell me what those 
ran?)  During my
time there I was a UNIX/Windows sysadmin but that department 
converted from

that machine to a NT4 box running UniVerse.


That was probably a Reality system.  That's the hardware I learned Pick
programming on, though it was sold by Microdata at the time.  McDonnel
Douglass aquired Microdata at some point, I think in the late 80's.
They may have renamed the OS after the aquisition, but it was still
Pick.

-John
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread will
   Maybe our star is beginning to rise again.  You just cannot keep a good idea
   down! 8-)
   Brutzman, Bill wrote:

The original eMail did not say new sites.  The eMail said annual sales.

I cannot vouch the dollar amount.  I beleive that I heard it a few years ago
at
an IBM U2 product update in NYC perhaps one year after the Informix
takeover.

We pay a few thousand in yearly maintenance.

Yes... I wish that we were in greater demand.

--Bill

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of will
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:23 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

If IBM is selling 100 Million in new Universe sites why are we not
seeing more demands for Universe Basic Programmers?

Will

Brutzman, Bill wrote:

Dave:

We have used UniVerse as our mainstay business system since 1984.

Our business is stamping metal parts for mostly automobile manufacturers,
like General Motors.

We have been in business for approx eighty years.

We have approx 40 people.  Our annual sales is approx seven million.

I have gathered that IBM annual sales of U2 products is $100 million.

We like UniVerse a lot.  We expect to be on UniVerse... forever.

Regards,

Bill Brutzman, Mgr, IT
HK MetalCraft Mfg Corp
PO Box 775
35 Industrial Road
Lodi  NJ  07644

973.471.7770 x145 .voice
973.471.9666 .fax

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SSC Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

2007-04-27 Thread Ray Wurlod
The Australian Taxation Office runs its entire electronic lodgment system on 
UniVerse - primarily an in-house application, with up to 3300 simultaneous 
users allowed.

 - Original Message -
 From: Liesse, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse
 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:28:55 -0400
 
 
 Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
 companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
 no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
 the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
 of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
 respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
 so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
 lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
 information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
 in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
 minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
 haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.
 
 Dave Liesse
 Quality Manager
 SSC Technologies, Inc.
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