Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE?apps?in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 17, 2010 05:24:08 pm Michael Bienia wrote: On 2010-06-17 16:58:12 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Michael Bienia mich...@bienia.de wrote: On 2010-06-17 15:28:26 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: This is pretty close to the UDS discussion. A number of Kubuntu people wanted a

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps?in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Holbach
On 17.06.2010 23:11, Soren Hansen wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 03:28:26PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: This is pretty close to the UDS discussion. A number of Kubuntu people wanted a separate package set because, specifically, of people who focused on these packages getting deferred from

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Holbach
On 17.06.2010 21:28, Scott Kitterman wrote: Several people, myself included, argued against this since if we fragment Universe too much, the potential set of MOTU recruits will narrow significantly. We decided that it was perfectly OK for potential MOTU to be somewhat focused as long as

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE?apps?in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-18 Thread Michael Bienia
On 2010-06-18 09:07:36 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: I looked it up and it was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristianMangold/MOTUDeveloperApplication http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/04/27/%23ubuntu-meeting.html Specifically, he was told by a DMB member that MOTU is for generalists and he

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE?apps?in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-18 Thread Ralph Janke
On 06/18/2010 09:46 AM, Michael Bienia wrote: On 2010-06-18 09:07:36 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: I looked it up and it was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristianMangold/MOTUDeveloperApplication http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/04/27/%23ubuntu-meeting.html Specifically, he was told by a DMB

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps?in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, June 18, 2010 09:28:31 am Daniel Holbach wrote: I have worked with Fabrice before and I'm sorry for him to be center of the discussion right now, I'm convinced he didn't want to push somebody away. Whatever else I think about this issue, I definitely agree with this. I meant the

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on?Qt/KDE?apps?in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-18 Thread Michael Bienia
On 2010-06-18 13:00:17 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Kubuntu-dev only covers main. That explains my mistake. So the kubuntu package set only covers the KDE subset from main and allows Kubuntu developers to upload those without being a core-dev. Any KDE packages that are in universe aren't part

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in?Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-17 Thread Soren Hansen
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 05:24:32PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote: Again, I have to stress that noone was thrown out of #ubuntu-motu. A more focused forum was simply pointed out. I get that you think it's OK to tell people who want to be a MOTU to go elsewhere

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in?Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 05:24:32PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote: Again, I have to stress that noone was thrown out of #ubuntu-motu. A more focused forum was simply pointed out. I get that you think it's OK to tell

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-17 Thread Ralph Janke
On 06/16/2010 02:52 PM, Soren Hansen wrote: This is not isolated to people working on KDE stuff. With the advent of more and more package sets, people are more likely to get granted upload privs to those rather than getting full MOTU or core-dev, since (at least I'm reasonably sure this is

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-17 Thread Michael Bienia
On 2010-06-17 08:17:04 -0400, Ralph Janke wrote: On 06/16/2010 02:52 PM, Soren Hansen wrote: This is not isolated to people working on KDE stuff. With the advent of more and more package sets, people are more likely to get granted upload privs to those rather than getting full MOTU or

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-17 Thread Daniel Holbach
On 17.06.2010 14:17, Ralph Janke wrote: Furthermore, does that also mean that people that work primarily on Gnome packages will have the same of similar restrictions? There are no restrictions. I never used Qt/KDE apps myself much, but I talked to a number of Qt/KDE people and sponsored quite

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps?in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-17 Thread Michael Bienia
On 2010-06-17 15:28:26 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: This is pretty close to the UDS discussion. A number of Kubuntu people wanted a separate package set because, specifically, of people who focused on these packages getting deferred from MOTU because the had worked too much on KDE stuff. Do

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps?in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-17 Thread Soren Hansen
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 03:28:26PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: This is pretty close to the UDS discussion. A number of Kubuntu people wanted a separate package set because, specifically, of people who focused on these packages getting deferred from MOTU because the had worked too much on KDE

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE?apps?in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-17 Thread Michael Bienia
On 2010-06-17 16:58:12 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Michael Bienia mich...@bienia.de wrote: On 2010-06-17 15:28:26 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: This is pretty close to the UDS discussion. A number of Kubuntu people wanted a separate package set because, specifically, of people who

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread Soren Hansen
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:03:52PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Today in my backscroll I see: [15:13:58] fabrice_sp shadeslayer, what do you want? [...] [15:29:16] shadeslayer fabrice_sp: that package was sponsored by maco in #kubuntu-devel :P This is completely inappropriate. Let me

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread ubu...@kitterman.com
Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:03:52PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Today in my backscroll I see: [15:13:58] fabrice_sp shadeslayer, what do you want? [...] [15:29:16] shadeslayer fabrice_sp: that package was sponsored by maco in #kubuntu-devel :P

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread Steven Harms
I think you are mislead by the term Masters of the Universe. At no point is everyone in #ubuntu-motu a domain specific expert on every facet of every type of package. For expert advice, you probably want to join channels dedicated to that subject. I see MOTU as a channel for general questions

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread Daniel Holbach
On 16.06.2010 16:10, ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: The part where someone is told because the package name starts with q, #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel. The person doing the asking is in fact very active in #kubuntu-devel, but was reaching out to MOTU to try and broaden themselves when

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread Soren Hansen
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:10:53AM -0400, ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:03:52PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Today in my backscroll I see: [15:13:58] fabrice_sp shadeslayer, what do you want? [...] [15:29:16] shadeslayer fabrice_sp: that package was sponsored by

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in?Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread Steve Beattie
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 01:44:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: The conversation didn't start with help me with this package. It started with I want to be a MOTU. My read is someone who said they wanted to become a MOTU was sent away and that's not very Ubuntu. #kubuntu-devel is not the best

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in?Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread Soren Hansen
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 01:44:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: The conversation didn't start with help me with this package. It started with I want to be a MOTU. True. My read is someone who said they wanted to become a MOTU was sent away and that's not very Ubuntu. #kubuntu-devel is not

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in?Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 01:44:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: The conversation didn't start with help me with this package. It started with I want to be a MOTU. True. My read is someone who said they wanted to become a MOTU was sent away and that's

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in?Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread Christopher Swift
Ar Mer, 2010-06-16 am 17:24 -0400, ysgrifennodd Scott Kitterman: I get that you think it's OK to tell people who want to be a MOTU to go elsewhere if they express an interest in a KDE/Qt packages. I disagree. Scott K Scott, in this conversation from what I have read in the thread

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in?Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
Christopher Swift christopher.sw...@linux.com wrote: Ar Mer, 2010-06-16 am 17:24 -0400, ysgrifennodd Scott Kitterman: I get that you think it's OK to tell people who want to be a MOTU to go elsewhere if they express an interest in a KDE/Qt packages. I disagree. Scott K Scott, in

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in?Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread Christopher Swift
Ar Mer, 2010-06-16 am 18:47 -0400, ysgrifennodd Scott Kitterman: Christopher Swift christopher.sw...@linux.com wrote: Ar Mer, 2010-06-16 am 17:24 -0400, ysgrifennodd Scott Kitterman: I get that you think it's OK to tell people who want to be a MOTU to go elsewhere if they express an

Re: Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in?Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-16 Thread Joao Pinto
If the situation were that he was asking for help with a specific package, then I would agree. Scott K -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu We are all free to have opinions as

Please do not tell people interested in working on Qt/KDE apps in Universe #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel

2010-06-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
We had a session at UDS on the idea of creating a separate package set for Qt/KDE packages in Universe because there was a well founded feeling that people who happened to want to work in that area were being excluded from MOTU. The result of the discussion was that it was decided not to