Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

LMMS was mentioned in this email and development is moving forward on leaps and bounds. We hope to soon be releasing version 1.2 with lots of new features and lots of bug fixes and overall code improvements. If you are a developer and would like to contribute to this community feel free to contact

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, 9 Sep 2015, ttoine wrote: Ardour 4 don't need jackd anymore. All software can work on jackd, or with alsa directly (uncluding Mixbus and Lightworks). Jackd is usefull is you look for an alternative to Propelerheads Rewire, and combine with Patchage, we can definitevely speak about it

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

Hi all, I've been following this series of mails with much interest. Because I'm not active as contributor I am reluctant to join in, but I do would like to help because I really like ubuntu studio. This thread has moved quite far away from the idea of what the subject says, and one of the things

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

> > I hope this mail was not too long and I hope my opinion might be of help. > Thank you very much Bart ! this is very helpful to have the feedback from our users ;-) -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

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> > Many users act as if they had paid for the distro/SW/whatever and must be > served on a 24/7 basis within seconds of saying "hello". They are not > willing to read anything, but rather expect to talk to some real person. > Then they expect that person to guess their setup (ESP?) and do not

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] "elementary OS" ... ONE Ubuntustudio user's thoughts ...

I don't think we need to blacklist. Maybe we should just recommend some hardware and software that we know are using. Less is more. Antoine THOMAS Tél: 0663137906 2015-09-07 20:03 GMT+02:00 Ralf Mardorf : > What about a 2 pages on the Ubuntu Studio website. One to

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] "elementary OS" ... ONE Ubuntustudio user's thoughts ...

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 10:51:46 +0200, ttoine wrote: >I don't think we need to blacklist. > >Maybe we should just recommend some hardware and software that we know >are using. Less is more. The problem could be exotic revisions of hardware. Revision 1, 2, 3 and 4a might work, but revision 4b doesn't

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

> > At least what already is provided for smart phone applications > that cost less than 10$/10€. > -> you want to create a company to support a basic set of software and plugins on Linux, for 10$/year/people ? I think we might actually find interested people for that. But, we can't use the

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 10:58:17 +0200, ttoine wrote: >> >> At least what already is provided for smart phone applications >> that cost less than 10$/10€. >> > > -> you want to create a company to support a basic set of software and >plugins on Linux, for 10$/year/people ? I think we might actually

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 21:50:28 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: >So, who or how to decide what is good enough? There is no distinct >definition for that. Would you add something that could be the tone control of a hifi amp into a mixer channel for audio production? I would use Fons' parametric EQ for

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 15:45:41 +0200, ttoine wrote: > >So, really, I think instead trying to support everything, package > >everything, we should focus on what we know is working. And maintain > >it, make it clear

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

> > However, the point is, that there is the need to provide something, > that doesn't exist at the moment. What's missing for Ubuntu Studio or > any other distro isn't bad PR, it's software and hardware. > That is totally the puropose of this thread, Ralf. We need to answer what is available,

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] "elementary OS" ... ONE Ubuntustudio user's thoughts ...

> It always takes hours, when I search a clean old school ping pong delay. > IIRC only one delay can provide it and it takes tricky settings to get > it. So even a whitelist should provide a description. > > That is why having sponsors or money would be great, so we can pay an audio dev to create

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 15:45:41 +0200, ttoine wrote: >So, really, I think instead trying to support everything, package >everything, we should focus on what we know is working. And maintain >it, make it clear that Ubuntu Studio is now focused to make things >working. Ok, here we agree. For plugins

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

Those who expect paid service quality are probably better off paying for it. On the other hand, Windows 10 is so malicious they will need to pay for 3ed party tech support to stop the spying. Maybe direct them to a known good Ubuntu or Mint LTS, then to paid apps that run on it and have paid tech

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

yes, we agree Ok, here we agree. For plugins it's not only to consider to sort out > bad ones, but also to separate plugins usable for production, from those > who are ok, but not good for audio production. Do we do that with wordpress on Ubuntustudio.org ? -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list

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> > One should not have to be an engineer or coder to use Linux multimedia. (I > think that means we all agree :) ) > -> yes !!! So... Can we create a new website to gather a community of non engineer/coder users ? -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: I'm sure we could. But how would that help gathering new users? And why can't we do that where the web site is today? I don't know. Of course the end user has no clue where (or how) the site is being hosted anyway. Most people get to sites via links.

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] "elementary OS" ... ONE Ubuntustudio user's thoughts ...

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, C. F. Howlett wrote: Perhaps I missed it, but I saw precious little consideration or discussion in this thread about what Ubuntustudio USERS want/need from a multimedia OS. Want and need are two different things... But (and this maybe shows my lack in PR) to me the whole

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015, ttoine wrote: One should not have to be an engineer or coder to use Linux multimedia. (I think that means we all agree :)  ) -> yes !!!  So... Can we create a new website to gather a community of non engineer/coder users ? As I am one of those "leave comments

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 08:28:13 -0700 (PDT), Len Ovens wrote: >It is all PR, yes. Active for sure. Needs someone who understands what >FB, twitter, etc. has that email and irc does not. I personally do not >have any use for these things at all. :D That's also not my domain. What I'm missing for

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, ttoine wrote: 64 Studio, Dynabolic, AV LInux, ... were not easy to use Linux distros. e.g: I agree, after trying some of these, I ended back with Slackware and AudioSlack. Ubuntu was usable for me. Really, the HW I had was not as good as the Atari Megga2 I was using for

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] "elementary OS" ... ONE Ubuntustudio user's thoughts ...

What about a 2 pages on the Ubuntu Studio website. One to black and whitelist plugins and another to balck and whitelist hardware. Plugin name: Host name Ubuntu release: Package version host: Package version plugin: Description: Hardware: Ubuntu Release: Kernel version: Firmware version:

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Thu, 3 Sep 2015, ttoine wrote: At that time, Cory took the lead, and it turns out that we were not on the same spirit at all:   - I was focused on making things working, like I did from the start  - He was focused on having a beautiful look'n feel for the desktop and other low priority stuff

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:12 AM, ttoine wrote: > > >> Another issue are the Linux (audio) communities. There unlikely is a >> place with more narrow-minded narcissist then Linux (audio) communities. >> > > I agree. This has always been a serious issue, from the beginning of >

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

64 Studio, Dynabolic, AV LInux, ... were not easy to use Linux distros. e.g: I tried to install 64 studio on my pc, without success. That is why Ubuntu was superior for users at this time. And most of these projects disappear many years ago... Ubuntu Studio, however, is still here, and is one of

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] "elementary OS" ... ONE Ubuntustudio user's thoughts ...

Thanks a lot for your email. Like often with open source projects, users are not enough in the center of developer mind. We need to make it more easy for users to adopt Ubuntu Studio !!! Antoine THOMAS Tél: 0663137906 2015-09-04 9:40 GMT+02:00 C. F. Howlett : > Perhaps

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] "elementary OS" ... ONE Ubuntustudio user's thoughts ...

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:40:54 +0800, C. F. Howlett wrote: >I had SO MUCH fun doing all kinds of multimedia things that would >otherwise have been prohibitively expensive under my other OS, and >I've happily dualbooted Ubuntustudio since its first release. That's a good evidence that the Linux

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 11:12:36 +0200, ttoine wrote: >So, at the moment, you are right. But in the future, it depends on us. > >So again, the question: do we do that with Ubuntu Studio ? or does it >need a new project with another name, like Elementary OS and Mint ? We stay with Ubuntu to provide an

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] "elementary OS" ... ONE Ubuntustudio user's thoughts ...

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:59:51 -0400, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: >For something totally tuned and optimized to one system and one user, >the usual recommendation is something like Gentoo. IIRC regarding a poll Ubuntu and Arch are the most used distros by Linux audio users, so I would recommend

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] "elementary OS" ... ONE Ubuntustudio user's thoughts ...

For something totally tuned and optimized to one system and one user, the usual recommendation is something like Gentoo. probably better for my uses but no way in hell I'd want to have to tech support this for someone else. For those who are not hackers, Ubuntu-based distros still have a lot

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015, Set Hallstrom wrote: This makes me feel like i'm going to break a leg soon. I've never had any problem finding hardware. Scanners, AIs, graphic cards, midicontrolers PCIe-cards What am i doing right? Running stock as installed? In general things have worked for me

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

Antoine, there already was Dynabolic, an OOTB working Linux audio distro, used by many Linux users, at the time when Ubuntu's initial release wasn't used by many people. Shortly afterwards JAD, a Suse based audio distro, followed by 64 Studio, first Debian based and later Ubuntu based were

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

http://www.motu.com/products/avb/ultralite-avb which while it has a mixer inside that requires SW, that SW is any browser (firefox/chrome/whatever) -> nice feature. However, I don't care of internal DSP effects, I won't use them. For live mixing, I prefer a mixer with pots and faders. That is

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: > > > On Wednesday, September 2, 2015, Len Ovens wrote: > >> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015, Set Hallström wrote: >> >> what it is ATM. Also, this thread made me reflect over our logo, which is >>> clearly >>> a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 11:30:04 +0200, ttoine wrote: >-> nice feature. However, I don't care of internal DSP effects, I >won't use them. For live mixing, I prefer a mixer with pots and >faders. That is why I also won't buy RME stuff anymore: I don't want >to pay for the useless internal DSP. Those

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:30 AM, ttoine wrote: > >> Actually we could host on our own if we wish. > > Ok, didn't know that ! > That might give us some freedom and advantages but also other disadvantages. Like cost and more maintenance. > > >> True. How do Xubuntu do their

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

>On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 11:30:04 +0200, ttoine wrote: >>Actually we could host on our own if we wish. Antoine, please try to do proper quoting in the future. I now noticed this was written by Len and it's not related to the mixer. In your reply it isn't marked as a quote. -- ubuntu-studio-devel

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On 2015-09-01 17:51, ttoine wrote: > In conclusion, I can tall that, yes, it is possible to compete with > other more common solution in many fields of multimedia production. I > just feel that Ubuntu Studio is not anymore the best way to attract > users. We need something new, fresh and elegant

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

Luke, Kdenlive or other free softwares are ok for editing short or long projects, with or without compositing and effetcs. However, most the time, open source video editor can not work with broadcast quality (timecode sync on video and audio, 4 audio tracks, ...) Ralph, I agree with Len, you

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

In my experience if you want to use Linux in general it pays to pre-research any new or newly purchased hardware and screen out things like Nvidia graphics that work poorly with FOSS software and drivers. For instance, I would not accept any camera that wrote only to an internal hard drive unless

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

> > > I think i want to try compile something like that. I'm stating this with > reserve because my schedule is > what it is ATM. Also, this thread made me reflect over our logo, which is > clearly a mashup between the > firewire logo and ubuntu logo. Now that firewire is getting obsolete, >

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On 2015-09-02 18:19, ttoine wrote: > > What is important is not what picture we put for the default background, > or if we should choose XFCE vs Unity. This look'n feel or technical stuff. > > What is important is how to create something to answer user needs. This > is the foundation of a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > Having ideas is great, but at some point one needs to figure out how to > realize them as well. > Who is going to create this new database you are talking about? I think i want to try compile something like that. I'm

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

@Ralph, You should have a look at Arturia's new usb2 compliant soundcard, they say that this is the lowest latency ever without specific driver (however they will provide an asio driver for windows customers) http://www.arturia.com/audiofuse/overview Arturia headquarter is in my area, so I will

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 21:20:06 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: >To be alarmist, isn't it also a way to garantee that no malicious code >is being entered? That the download links for ISO's are not edited to >mirror some zombiepidemic? Yesno! Ubuntu is known to add spayware! But it's not a secret and the

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On 2015-09-02 20:30, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > I don't see many closed doors in regard for Ubuntu Studio. Quite the > opposite. It's very much an open field for people who want to > contribute. And, if we don't have enough contributors, it's a matter of > finding a way to get more. > > But, if enough

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015, Set Hallström wrote: what it is ATM. Also, this thread made me reflect over our logo, which is clearly a mashup between the  firewire logo and ubuntu logo. Now that firewire is getting obsolete, perhaps it could be remodeled?  Not having ever used firewire stuff, It has

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015, at 06:19 PM, ttoine wrote: (...) > That is my purpose: how can we attract users, create a more active > community, that would be able to create and maintain useful resources? I > am > not sure anymore that Ubuntu Studio is still the best way. This is why I > started this

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On 2015-09-02 23:02, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: > I like the logo. I am tired though and will write a longer reply on my > thoughts on all the discussions today. To be continued... I like it too. :) I was just hinting a potential solution to a problem that I clearly don't understand. On 2015-09-02

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 23:02:48 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: >I like the logo. I am tired though and will write a longer reply on my >thoughts on all the discussions today. To be continued... The logo is perfect for an audio/video distro. It includes the three people from the Ubuntu logo and an

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

We are talking more about an audio distro logo, than they talk on LAD about irregular latencies when using USB audio interfaces. This is what we are talking about:

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015, ttoine wrote: @Ralph,You should have a look at Arturia's new usb2 compliant soundcard, they say that this is the lowest latency ever without specific driver (however they will provide an asio driver for windows customers) http://www.arturia.com/audiofuse/overview The

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 10:09:12 +0200, ttoine wrote: >Ralph, >I agree with Len, you don't need a pcie sound card, pci is fast enough >for audio (actually, usb2 is fast enough...) RME did new pcie version >of their card likely for the mac pro. And the RME driver has been >developed by an independant

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:02:12 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: >Sometimes, when my converted friends need help (which is incredibly >seldom), i send them the terminal command to cut and paste because it's >faster than writing a how to for the GUI: "open this app, go into that >menu, click on

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 12:09:28 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: >On 2015-09-02 11:55, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> My point is, that it's even nearly impossible for an experienced user >> like me to buy Linux compatible hardware. I often got other hardware >> that was mentioned as Linux compatible, but some

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 12:09:28 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: On 2015-09-02 11:55, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Windows and Mac user seldom run into such issues, while a lot of inexperienced Linux users can't avoid it. This makes me feel like i'm going to break a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On 2015-09-02 12:36, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I not necessarily buy my hardware. I use hardware from trash, I borrow > hardware from neighbours. > > What you find in a trash can or what your neighbours lend you most > likely can be used with a Windows machine, but not with a Linux machine. Me too,

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

I also don't have issue with my hardware (sound card, printer, scanner, camera, ...), be it brand new or second hand. I chose to move to usb2 class compliant 3 years ago to avoid issues with alsa-firmware (I was fed up reporting bugs or having to find one working device before buying...). For

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

While this is interesting for advanced users, those information are not accurate and not updated... For beginners this is still complicated. And there is nothing about professional video equipment. Antoine THOMAS Tél: 0663137906 2015-09-02 16:02 GMT+02:00 Kaj Ailomaa : >

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:09:55 +0200, ttoine wrote: >What is great with usb2 class compliant audio devices, is that any >device working with Apple iPad will work out of the box with Linux. That's nice. OTOH the cheapest RME USB device seems to be the Babyface. It's much more expensive than the HDSPe

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015, at 04:47 PM, ttoine wrote: > While this is interesting for advanced users, those information are not > accurate and not updated... > Please help updating it. > For beginners this is still complicated. And there is nothing about > professional video equipment. > That is

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

Not everyone has ever used a Windows or MAC workstation, I've done low power radio audio and activist video on Audacity and Kdenlive respectively. I do not have money to buy paid software, nor do I trust closed packages not to phone home with my sensitive raw material. In audio I have added

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Tue, 1 Sep 2015, ttoine wrote: Hardware:  - Most of Blackmagic hardware work great with Linux for video  - I would recommand to avoid PCI sound card now, and use USB2 compliant sound card instead: I can work at 3ms of latency without issues with Focusrite, Presonus or Allen & Heath devices,

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:32:40 -0700 (PDT), Len Ovens wrote: >However, the real place we could shine is system infra structure. Assumed I'll find a place for a blog, I'll give some hints. It's not only jackd that could cause trouble for newbies. The Debian/Ubuntu policy is to autostart everything

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

Ralf, I truly believe that when it will be possible to use a Linux distribution without the terminal at all, Linux will become popular. That is why Ubuntu became popular at the beginning (you install, it runs, you work, no tweak) The success today for Canonical is that with Ubuntu, they provide

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 14:29:01 +0200, ttoine wrote: >Ralf, I truly believe that when it will be possible to use a Linux >distribution without the terminal at all, Linux will become popular. At least for audio Linux can't compare to Mac or Windows. You need to use the terminal to get an audio tuned

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

*Audio:* - I agree that if you are working with midi stuff and virtual instruments, there is not a lot of great stuff at the moment, and it is difficult to have a good performance. - However, I know many sound engineers that are using Mixbus and switched to Ubuntu Studio: for recording and

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:51:29 +0200, ttoine wrote: >work with a studio who records 16 adat tracks at a time with Ardour or >Mixbus, on Ubuntu Studio, without any issue, and they love it for the >overall stability. They even dropped Mac OS X from the workflow. They >own a 9652 if my memory is good.

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On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:17 PM, ttoine wrote: > > My idea is not to divide. My idea is to understand how we can gather more > people around this original project: "produce multimedia with Open Source > software" > I think i understood that, what i ment is that i'm dubitous

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Monday, August 31, 2015, ttoine wrote: > Thanks guys for your answers. > > Perhaps we should join the effort of KXstudio and develop something with > its dev (if he agrees). I don't what is the best, that is why I send this > my emai. I just feel that we are screwed with

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, ttoine wrote: The fact is in the past, it cost me a lot of money to buy many "pro" sound card to test and debug drivers (RME and Echo are pretty expensive...). The As you may guess, that is not likely to happen any more. alsa-firmware package would not work in Ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:46 AM, ttoine wrote: > Thanks guys for your answers. > > Perhaps we should join the effort of KXstudio and develop something with > its dev (if he agrees). I don't what is the best, that is why I send this > my emai. I just feel that we are screwed

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

"Divided we fall, united we stand" "We are because you are, and since you are, definitely I am" I'm super happy with ubuntustudio. I'm not sure being able to get economic compensation would further push the quality of ubuntustudio. Look at what you guys have achieved without!!! Its a beautiful

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

Thanks guys for your answers. Perhaps we should join the effort of KXstudio and develop something with its dev (if he agrees). I don't what is the best, that is why I send this my emai. I just feel that we are screwed with Canonical until we use a Ubuntu derivative name. Antoine THOMAS Tél:

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

Hear hear! (aka. I second that!) brian On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:44:49 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: > "Divided we fall, united we stand" > "We are because you are, and since you are, definitely I am" > > I'm super happy with ubuntustudio. I'm not sure being able to get > economic

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

The fact is in the past, it cost me a lot of money to buy many "pro" sound card to test and debug drivers (RME and Echo are pretty expensive...). The alsa-firmware package would not work in Ubuntu without this investment I had. At the moment, we miss someone with pro video equipment, like

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 8:27 AM, ttoine tto...@ttoine.net wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to share an idea I have for some time ago. Seing the success of Elementary OS or Linux Mint, both based on Ubuntu, I really think that we should create something like that. The fact is that we are using

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Hi Antoine, I don't want to join the team, I don't want to make a new distro, but likely I'll provide a PPA for linux-rt 3.x, maybe 4.x too, Claws from git and perhaps other packages, but this depends on the

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Mike Holstein wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 8:27 AM, ttoine tto...@ttoine.net wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to share an idea I have for some time ago. Seing the success of Elementary OS or Linux Mint, both based on Ubuntu, I really think that we should create

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

There is another advantage of going independent: you can decouple your fate from that of the underlying distro. If something happens to Canonical (or to Debian) there are more options that way. Same if the underlying distro makes changes not compatable with your goals. With Ubuntu now providing

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

Hi Antoine, I don't want to join the team, I don't want to make a new distro, but likely I'll provide a PPA for linux-rt 3.x, maybe 4.x too, Claws from git and perhaps other packages, but this depends on the terms for creating a PPA for Wily. I still didn't read the terms. Likely I already have

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015, at 02:27 PM, ttoine wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to share an idea I have for some time ago. Seing the success of Elementary OS or Linux Mint, both based on Ubuntu, I really think that we should create something like that. The fact is that we are using a Ubuntu base