Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-08 Thread Alan Bell
James Tait wrote: Alan Bell wrote: [snip!] well you will be pleased to know there is such a page! here http://ubuntu-uk.org/ here http://www.ubuntu.com/support here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportSolutionsGuidelines here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportTeam here

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-08 Thread Alan Bell
John Stevenson wrote: I believe I suggested a page on a site where users could find out how to ask support questions, so which site would you direct a new Ubuntu user towards ?? Having browsed through a few with a newbie hat on I would have given up or just asked a for help without

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-08 Thread pmgazz
sounds just fine, send them in. Excellent, thanks :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-08 Thread James Tait
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/10 00:08, John Stevenson wrote: On 7 June 2010 23:13, James Tait james.t...@wyrddreams.org mailto:james.t...@wyrddreams.org wrote: Alan Bell wrote: [snip!] here https://help.ubuntu.com/ here

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-07 Thread Will Bickerstaff
James, bringing launchpad to the desktop is a really cool idea. When I think about what would motivate me more to help, finding things I can help with is probably top of the list. There are a hundred different places to help out, forums, irc, launchpad etc. And I can spend hours trawling them all

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-07 Thread John Stevenson
On 7 June 2010 20:10, Will Bickerstaff w...@thebickerstaffs.net wrote: James, bringing launchpad to the desktop is a really cool idea. When I think about what would motivate me more to help, finding things I can help with is probably top of the list. There are a hundred different places to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-07 Thread Alan Bell
John Stevenson wrote: On 7 June 2010 20:10, Will Bickerstaff w...@thebickerstaffs.net mailto:w...@thebickerstaffs.net wrote: James, bringing launchpad to the desktop is a really cool idea. When I think about what would motivate me more to help, finding things I can help

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-07 Thread James Tait
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Bell wrote: [snip!] well you will be pleased to know there is such a page! here http://ubuntu-uk.org/ here http://www.ubuntu.com/support here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportSolutionsGuidelines here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportTeam here

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-07 Thread John Stevenson
On 7 June 2010 23:13, James Tait james.t...@wyrddreams.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Bell wrote: [snip!] well you will be pleased to know there is such a page! here http://ubuntu-uk.org/ here http://www.ubuntu.com/support here

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-06 Thread pmgazz
On 05/06/10 14:32, Alan Bell wrote: where? and do join #ubuntu-uk. #fossbox - but it's not really used I don't tend to see joins and parts happening, but it is perfectly possible to have a bot in a channel that greets people the first time it has seen them. (not sure we want

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-06 Thread Alan Bell
pmgazz wrote: On 05/06/10 14:32, Alan Bell wrote: where? and do join #ubuntu-uk. #fossbox - but it's not really used nope, it isn't! Yes, if one has a bot/time to build, agree and deploy a bot - I used to run channels on Dalnet using chan bots - but 'newbie' IRC users will

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-06-05 Thread pmgazz
I work with the voluntary sector as a community interest company providing paid support (and end up also giving a lot of free support). Among the networks of orgs who provide MS and proprietary software support to VCS (I think I'm one of 2 providers who seriously supports Ubuntu) there have

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-05-28 Thread Markie
Hi Matt So really, what drives you to support people? When I receive support Im extremely grateful, so the best way to show gratitude is by reciprocating that support. What, in your own opinion, could be done to help motivate yourself to do better? Learn more, and then be able to share

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-05-28 Thread John Stevenson
On 25 May 2010 10:34, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: Hello, snip What drives you to help support random strangers for no reward? Someone pointed out to me at Oggcamp that understanding this may be the crux of being able to actually help drive people to improve. I've had a sit

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-05-28 Thread Alan Bell
Matthew Daubney wrote: Hello, First of all a brief apology for not sorting this out sooner, moving house has taken somewhat longer than I originally intended. I'm hoping to start getting things back on track now. Secondly, thanks to the people who turned up to my (frankly awful) talk at

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-05-28 Thread John Levin
On 27/05/2010 19:12, Matthew Daubney wrote: snippery That's quite a long list! Here's an interesting side question, what would help motivate you to improve the way you support people? How do you think it could be improved? I used to do paid support, mainly windows but also os x and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support and adverse factors

2010-05-28 Thread alan c
On 25/05/10 10:34, Matthew Daubney wrote: Hello, First of all a brief apology for not sorting this out sooner, moving house has taken somewhat longer than I originally intended. I'm hoping to start getting things back on track now. Secondly, thanks to the people who turned up to my (frankly

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-05-27 Thread Matthew Daubney
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 00:17 +0100, James Tait wrote: snip Matthew Daubney wrote: [snip!] Secondly, thanks to the people who turned up to my (frankly awful) talk at Oggcamp on this subject. Next time I have a chance to talk about what I'm trying to achieve I _should_ be able to do it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-05-27 Thread James Tait
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27/05/10 19:12, Matthew Daubney wrote: [snip!] That's quite a long list! Here's an interesting side question, what would help motivate you to improve the way you support people? How do you think it could be improved? That's a much more

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-05-26 Thread James Tait
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daubers, Matthew Daubney wrote: [snip!] Secondly, thanks to the people who turned up to my (frankly awful) talk at Oggcamp on this subject. Next time I have a chance to talk about what I'm trying to achieve I _should_ be able to do it better!

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-05-26 Thread Sean Miller
I like to think that if you can help people with things that you understand but they don't then they might help you in the future in kind... I understand absolutely zilch about cars, for instance, so if I can assist somebody in getting through their trauma with computers should something go wrong

[ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-05-25 Thread Matthew Daubney
Hello, First of all a brief apology for not sorting this out sooner, moving house has taken somewhat longer than I originally intended. I'm hoping to start getting things back on track now. Secondly, thanks to the people who turned up to my (frankly awful) talk at Oggcamp on this subject. Next