Re: ugnet_: (no subject)
This just gives the phrase 'missionary position' new meaning. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last Updated: Thursday, 29 July, 2004, 17:37 GMT 18:37 UK E-mail this to a friend Printable version Malawi clerics caught canoodling By Raphael Tenthani BBC correspondent in Blantyre The nun was allowed to put on her habit after being arrested A Catholic priest and nun have been convicted in Malawi for making love in an airport car park. The 43-year-old priest and 26-year-old nun were caught in the act in a tinted saloon car parked at Lilongwe International Airport. It was a bizarre spectacle, the public alerted airport police after noticing the car shaking in a funny way, police spokesman Kelvin Maigwa told the BBC. The pair received a suspended six-month jail sentence with hard labour. Remorse In a packed and giggling court-room, both the priest and the nun pleaded guilty to the charge of indecent behaviour in a public place and disorderly conduct. The nun tearfully told the magistrate she regretted her brief lapse in judgement, while the priest said that as a man of God he accepted Satan had tempted him. We thought they could be rushing for a plane... but they never got out of the car Taxi driver Magistrate Arthur Mtalimanja accepted their pleas in mitigation, but admonished them saying that as servants of God they were the last to be expected to misbehave in public. I therefore sentence you to six months imprisonment with hard labour, but I will suspend it... because you have shown remorse, he said. The two were first noticed at the airport by eyewitnesses as they parked the car and wound up the tinted windows. We thought they could be rushing for a plane that was about to take off but we were surprised that they never got out of the car, said a taxi driver. After being arrested, the nun was allowed to put on her habit, Mr Maigwa said. The priest was dressed in civilian clothes, he said. If the couple repeat the offence in the next 18 months they will go to jail, the magistrate said. __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
Re: ugnet_: Govt tp pay for post primary students
People, 'He said the government would also provide lunch and porridge with milk to UPE pupils.' is laudable. OK, in passing it provides a big market to Ankole cowherders, but where will the money come from? What is Kenya's experience here? --- Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Govt to pay for post primary students By Richard Mutumba June 11, 2004 PARLIAMENT The government will pay school fees for students in public secondary schools whose parents live in IDP camps, the Vice-President, Prof. Gilbert Bukenya, announced yesterday. Addressing Parliament after the presentation of the budget, Bukenya said in its effort to improve life in camps in the north and east, the government will embark on the promotion of agriculture in the camps especially cotton and upland rice. This will enable people in the camps to earn a good income, Bukenya who represented President Yoweri Museveni, said. Museveni is attending the G8 summit in the US. He said the government would also provide lunch and porridge with milk to UPE pupils. He said the Ministry of Education would give details of the implementation of this policy. We hope this would go a long way in improving nutrition among our children as well as creating a local market for farmers, he added. Bukenya said the way forward for peace was to eliminate Kony. With the developments in the peace process in Sudan and the continued hot pursuit by the UPDF, which is partly a result of better equipment, Kony's chances of survival were getting narrower. We have kept the door open for a peaceful resolution of the conflict although Kony had failed to respond to holding talks, he said. He said he was happy that there has been a steady increase in local revenue to finance the budget. © 2004 The Monitor Publications - - ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - so many all-new ways to express yourself __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
RE: ugnet_: Baganda warned on agitating for Federo - New Vision - 1/5/2004
Mw. Kasangwawo: Thank you for your contributions. However, sometimes I feel that you are engaged in the equivalent of taking a goat to an opera. Unfortunately, no matter how frequently such a goat attends the opera, he is unlikely to ever appreciate it in any sense of the word. Otherwise, it'd be amazing to see a person who claims to be a Muganda fail to grasp a simple idea that a Muganda's love for his or her Kabaka is independent of political affiliation. Some just don't get it. There is nothing to do about that. Let's move on. MN --- jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mulindwa co, either you didn't understand what the man said or you simply didn't make an effort to read the article carefully. What should be worrying us are not the federalists but, according to him, your very own party. Referring to the UPC he said: This is the very click that chased and deposed the Kabaka in 1966 so I urge you to be cautious of these masqueraders who have come up during Kabaka's quest for more powers. He further advises us to concentrate on our development instead of listening to the likes of the Rwanyarares. This is what the honorable minister said and not your usual ramblings about feudalism, which you know nothing about. Kasangwawo From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Baganda warned on agitating for Federo - New Vision - 1/5/2004 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:53:03 -0400 And those are the same sentiments worrying us with Federalists Visa Vie Buganda Kingdom. For one must look very carefully and look at people who are pleading for this federalism, a man like Mwami Lugemwa is a publicly known DP man, the same has been an official of external DP branch for some time now. So Lugemwa goes back to Uganda and now he is pleading for federalism for he loves Mengo and Buganda King. One can not help but ask, is Lugemwa now a KY sympathizer? For the going of Lugemwa to Uganda when Museveni is playing with Ugandans to negotiate on political partys, drives one to conclude that Lugemwa actually believes that Musveni can allow political partys to operate in Uganda. And that is not true. Museveni is just using the Lugemwas for his own staying in power. Now Lugemwa goes to Uganda under the burner of federalism and fighting for Buganda, and it is Mulindwa who is a non Ugandan and who is anti Buganda. Like I said to Mwaami Kibuuka, be very careful for this feudalism you have started under the cover of Federalism, for you will end up hurting Buganda than you ever wished. And the Kabaka's going to Museveni to ask for more powers, surely non-critical thinkers that should have raised all your red flags for many of us have been here very long, unlike the Ssenyange's who were born when UNLF was attacking Uganda to remove Iddi Amin. But where we are every one is using every one, DP will grow through Mengo and Mengo will get more powers from NRM and reform will not register as a party yet two days after they will register, to Mwaami Kironde in Colorado now starting a political party which is the 45th of the 46 partys now. What a fucked up nation? Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: Omar Kezimbira To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: ugnet_: Baganda warned on agitating for Federo - New Vision - 1/5/2004 Baganda warned on agitating for Federo EDUCATION and sports minister Edward Kiddu Makubuya has warned Baganda against people who are supporting the Kabaka's quest for more power, reports Ronald Kalyango. This is the very click that chased and deposed the Kabaka in 1966 so I urge you to be cautious of these masqueraders who have come up during Kabaka's quest for more powers, he said. He said this recently during a guided tour of Kalule in Nyimbwa sub-county, Luweero district where he appealed to the residents to initiate income-generating activities to support Mengo, instead of listening to the likes of the Rwanyarares. Makubuya called upon chiefs to mobilise the people in culture, discipline and work rather than spending time in misleading political rallies. Makubuya, who is also the area MP, toured St. Kizito, Karule R/C and gardens of his electorate where he called upon them to be exemplary by guarding against swindling of funds meant for development. He also warned councillors agai nst bidding for tenders, saying a lot of money had been lost due to shoddy work. Ends Published on:
Re: ugnet_: [abujaNig] Microsoft plans Kiswahili software for East Africa
Much ado about nothing ... I have heard it said that many of the 100 million inhabitants of E. Africa do not own even a radio, let alone a computer. I have even heard that some 200 years after writing was introduced into the area, only about 25% can read or write, much less read, write or even speak Swahili (albeit pidgin at that -- especially in Uganda). Languages that have yet to make it into popular print will likely die as newer ones are adopted. I think that Microsoft is being hoodwinked into squandering their investor's money on a non-existent market. MN --- Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Story by ZEDDY SAMBU Publication Date: 04/23/2004 Microsoft software products will for the first time have Kiswahili options. The project, to be launched within the next five months, will be included in the latest software applications, Windows XP and MS Office 2003. The three-phase programme will cover more than 100 million people in East Africa. Due to lack of a simplified language, most users find it difficult to interact with most operating systems. This has contributed to the technological gap between rural and urban areas. Microsoft country manager, Mr Louis Otieno, launched the Microsoft Local Language Programme at the company's offices in IM building in Nairobi yesterday. He said the project will enhance various programmes in major universities. These include initiatives to standardise the Kiswahili language, spoken in six Eastern Africa countries. We will first assess the existence of a glossary and accelerate it to completion within the next 8-12 months, Mr Otieno said. The first and hardest step, that involves development of a glossary of standard words considered legitimate by the Government and other bodies, is to be completed in two months. The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/TTwplB/TM -~- **LAWRIE GREEN EDUCATION 2004 Abuja EXHIBITION of UK Schools !!!* 1 To obtain the best possible offers given each individual circumstance; 2-To advise and guide you through at evry stage of application process; 3-To consider your interest first at all times. Lawrie Green Education - Prepararion for life. contact:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.preparationforlife.com http://www.preparationforlife.com/pages/_nigeria/lge_nigeria.html ++ Nigerians for Nigeria, rebuilding a Country where No man is oppressed. - --- Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Keep Hope Alive!!!* Internet Solution A one stop solution for your web site. It is fully Nigerian, with Hausa, Yoruba and Ibo Alphabets and so many resources easy to use and a 24/7 support access. Why go further when a Nigerian, try this one you wont go elsewhere. I ve my signature to it... http://www.africaservice.com PJ Adamz Abuja Nigeria. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/abujaNig/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
Re: Mulindwa Re: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's family secrets buried here\
On Obote's concentration camps: what comparisons do they bear to camps in Northern Uganda? Those of us whose relatives were butchered at Oyite-Ojok's and/or Obote's orders can hardly be expected to feel even the slightest empathy or sorrow for either of these murderers. I do not eaxctly remember any Acholi or Langi sorrowfully mourning the passing of their former partner in murder, Idi Amin. Why is that? So what is this silly debate really about if not mere hollier-than-thou posturing? --- The Fugee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mulindwa, The population of Luwero was about 600,000 when Museveni launched his war. The population growth rate of Luwero was only beaten by that of Tororo between 1969 and 1980 and this can be explained in the multi-ethnic complexion of both places. The fact that Luwero had many settlers from various parts of the country though most from other parts of Buganda explains how and why many who fled the violence unleashed by Museveni in Luwero were able to quickly settle elsewhere as many had ancestral roots in Buganda and in other parts of Uganda. I would not be surprised if many of these who scream in the name of Luwero have no connection with Luwero but are using the sufferings brought about by Museveni and co. choosing Luwero as the platform to forward his personal ambitions. I have read on these forums of the camps which were set up the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) described as concentration camps created by the elected government and those who sought shelter from Museveni's marauding army in 1981 and early 1982 as people deliberately uprooted by the UNLA when the UNLA did not have any units in rural Luwero until May 1982. But to these Ugandans this makes perfect sense. Others can even claim that citizens in rural Luwero were rebelling because the elections were rigged and yet the four constituencies in Luwero all returned DP candidates; were these MPs imposed on them so that this is why the people in Luwero rebelled? Since it is assumed that the people in Luwero were the ones leading the rebellion it is surprising that those from Luwero did not and do not dominate the leadership postions in Museveni's private army. The Fugee - Original Message - From: Edward Mulindwa To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:38 AM Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's family secrets buried here\ What is the population of Baganda? Just curious ! Secondly, some of us were in Uganda and in luwero at the time, but Museveni was the minister of defense, can Ssenyange tell us what happened in Uganda under Museveni's watch? It is one of those questions which will never be answered by our people who are enjoying the road map of peace, same as they say Ffe kasita twebaka yet they can not tell you who refused them to sleep all along, just a name who refused Ugandans to sleep? Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: Y Yaobang To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's family secrets buried here\ Ssenyange: You stated: ... the Baganda who lost the 500,000 relatives under Oyite's command. ... This is a very serious statement and allegation. I would not be suprised if you ended up in court over this!! y From: ssenya nyange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's family secrets buried here\ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:52:10 -0400 Owor Kipenji, As I mentioned in my email posting that its not good to celebrate someone's death but Oyite's case was different. Just as many celebrated the death and fall of Hitler, especially those who had lost their beloved ones, so didd the Baganda who lost the 500,000 relatives under Oyite's command. Buy ending his life, God answered the haunting blood of the dead and indeed Oyite died in the sky or on the soil of Luweero.How long did the UPC killing continue after Oyite's death? Less that 2 years. He was the rise and fall of UPC in the 80's. He was tainted with blood of 1/2 million innocent citizens. If his death was seen as the road map to stop the massacres in Buganda, why not celebrate the road map victory, just because it saved another million if the UPC was to continue ruling for another 5 years. Ssenyange --- From: Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:
Re: ugnet_: NYTimes.com Article: Illinois Tells Mormons It Regrets Expulsion
Can Northern Uganda be expected to learn anything from this story and the experience of S. Africa? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The article below from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] /- E-mail Sponsored by Fox Searchlight \ THE CLEARING - IN THEATERS JULY 2 - WATCH THE TRAILER NOW An official selection of the 2004 Sundance Film Festival, THE CLEARING stars ROBERT REDFORD and HELEN MIRREN as Wayne and Eileen Hayes - a husband and wife living the American Dream. Together they've raised two children and struggled to build a successful business from the ground up. But there have been sacrifices along the way. When Wayne is kidnapped by an ordinary man, Arnold Mack (WILLEM DAFOE), and held for ransom in a remote forest, the couple's world is turned inside out. Watch the trailer at: http://www.foxsearchlight.com/theclearing/index_nyt.html \--/ Illinois Tells Mormons It Regrets Expulsion April 8, 2004 By MELISSA SANFORD SALT LAKE CITY, April 7 - Illinois officials came to this predominantly Mormon city Wednesday to apologize for the expulsion of the faith's earliest members and the killing of its founder. The murder of Joseph Smith and the expulsions of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was a time we are not proud of, Representative Daniel J. Burke of the Illinois House said in a meeting with Gov. Olene S. Walker of Utah and Mormon leaders at the church administration building. The meeting was held in a room with towering columns, marble walls and gilded molding. There, Illinois's lieutenant governor, Pat Quinn, presented church leaders a copy of House Resolution 793, which expressed official regret for the violence and state-sanctioned condemnation that caused the Mormons to leave in 1846 on the trek that led them to Utah. An earlier draft of the resolution asked the Mormons for their pardon and forgiveness, but the language was weakened at the behest of Illinois lawmakers who said they could not ask forgiveness for acts they had not personally committed. The events that led to Wednesday's meeting began in 1839, when the Mormons, having fled persecution in Missouri (and before that in New York and Ohio), founded the Mississippi River town of Nauvoo, Ill. The town prospered, but its rapid growth and strong voting power, along with further religious bias, drew outsiders' antagonism. Smith was also besieged by dissension within the church. As mayor of the town, he ordered the suppression of the dissidents and, when violence resulted, called out the Nauvoo militia. The Illinois authorities arrested him and his brother Hyrum on charges of treason and conspiracy, and jailed them in the town of Carthage. A mob stormed the jail on June 27, 1844, and killed the brothers. Expulsion followed two years later. The idea for the new resolution dates from a ski trip that Anne Burke, an Illinois appellate justice who is the sister of Representative Burke, took to Utah. At a dinner party there, she chatted with Governor Walker's husband, Myron, who told her his great-grandfather had been expelled from Illinois because of his religion. Justice Burke had never heard of the expulsion. I could not get over that this kind of religious persecution happened and this was not so long ago, she said in an interview after Wednesday's ceremony. Myron Walker knew his great-grandfather. When Justice Burke returned home, she learned that Illinois had never issued an apology to the Mormons. She contacted her brother, who co-sponsored the resolution with Representative Jack D. Franks. For somebody to hear my great-grandfather's story and pick up on it in the manner she has is very meaningful to me, Mr. Walker said. I'm overwhelmed by a feeling of good will that has been extended by the people of Illinois. Illinois is now home to 50,000 Mormons. They rebuilt their Nauvoo temple in 2002, and more than 300,000 people a year visit the town. Thomas Monson, a leader of the church, said that with this resolution, he expected even more tourism there. We are going to see an epic trend of people making the reverse trek to Nauvoo, Mr. Monson said. The church's president, Gordon B. Hinckley, did not attend the ceremony; his wife of 67 years, Marjorie, died Tuesday evening. He was represented at the gathering by Mr. Monson and another church leader, James Faust. We view this resolution, Mr. Faust said, as an affirmation that Nauvoo is a place of peace and an affirmation that Latter-day Saints will always have a place in Illinois. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/08/national/08APOL.html?ex=1082468165ei=1en=7e20640045e783e8 - Get Home Delivery of The New York Times Newspaper.
ugnet_: Museveni's not so secret weapon in the sad term
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html---BeginMessage--- Mary, The resolutions of NEC and National Conference regarding term limits will soon come to Parliament. Those pipers in parliament will have to remember who calls the tune. It is called pre-emptive bribe Chris - Original Message - From: Mary Nagadya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 4:06 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Sh5b Loan For MPs- YEAR 2006 If this is not an oxymoron, I do not know what is: THE Government has secured a sh5b Orient Bank loan to help distressed MPs out of debt. OK. If the MPs got in debt in their individual personal capacities, why is the Museveni getting the whole of Uganda (i.e. government of Uganda) in their personal mess? Are we, Ugandans now indebted to this Orient Bank? Why does Museveni feel the need to interfere in peoples private finances -- and always gragging us along? Could this happen if had competitive politics whereby political paties were free to vie for power in Uganda? --- Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bwanika, After this 'help', the MPs will be indebted to dictator Museveni come Constitutional Review report (third term, etc.) debate by parliament. The rigging is already underway, kids. y From: dbbwanika db [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Sh5b Loan For MPs- YEAR 2006 Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 14:10:31 +0200 Now you get it. Imagine all indebt Ugandans could access such loans dfwa- u Govt Gets Sh5b Loan For MPs THE Government has secured a sh5b Orient Bank loan to help distressed MPs out of debt. According to reliable sources, the Government secured the sh5b facility after some MPs said they were broke. Each MP earns about sh4m a month. The majority of the MPs had problems. Many took money from lending institutions and individuals at high interest. In fact many have been going without a salary for months, a source said. The source said the Ministry of Finance sourced a line of credit from another financial institution and extended it to Orient Bank about a month ago. The facility came at a time many creditors were closing in on MPs for non- payment, the source added. Finance minister Gerald Ssendaula reportedly handled the deal. The interest rate for the loans is reportedly 15% per annum. The market rate for such loans currently stands at over 20%. The Government bailed them out and serviced about sh5b, put it in Orient Bank which bought off the loans and restructured them to two years to give MPs some breathing space, the source said. The official dismissed the Parliamentary Commission's claim that it negotiated the deal. Some government officials accuse some Parliamentary Commission officials of using the facility to reward political friends, leaving out other MPs. The Parliamentary Commission, the authority that administers Parliament, however, insists that the Government did not have a role in the deal. Maj. John Kazoora, a commissioner, recently said the deal was negotiated by the commission, which undertook to remit emoluments of the MPs who opt to take loans. He said some MPs were indebted at the time of the deal. Kazoora said he negotiated the deal with Ben Wacha. He said there was nothing special about the deal. AND NOW THIS ONE After September 11, we are finding a lot of problems with finance in-flows from our donors. This is despite the fact that we, as a government, must continue running and funding the ministries and do other things, said acting Permanent Secretary G. L. Bwich. According to the Auditor General, John Muwanga's (pictured) report before the committee, a total of 20 ministries are indebted to the tune of sh14b. The debts accrued from budget commitments that Finance later failed to honour http://newvision.co.ug/detail.php?mainNewsCategoryId=8newsCategoryId=13ne wsId=131214 __ bwanika url: www.idr.co.ug Logon Join in ug-academicsdb discussion list http://www.coollist.com/subcribe.html List ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your Email address: ~~ ~~ url: http://uhpl.uganda.co.ug http://pub59.ezboard.com/fugandamanufacturersassociationfrm1 _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ---End Message---
Re: ugnet_: Brand new 'baby'
Thank God for this! Perhaps now the average person will also have his say in our media. --- Lugemwa FN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ugandaobserver.com/today/ FNLugemwa __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
Re: ugnet_: Re: MUSEVENI's SS ( as in Hiltler's SS) or Sadam's Republican Guards
What are the odds that at least 50% of these are 'ghost' guards? --- Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matek: Why would Museveni's brigade have 6,000 to 7,000 soldiers more than a normal brigade?? And why is this brigade doing the army job?? It is supposed to stick to protecting the president alone. In case, and this is only in case, if Mu7 leaves power in 2006, who is going to take care of this huge brigade?? 6,000 to 7,000 soldiers will have to be dessolved into the Uganda Army after this dictator. My take is that he is not going to leave power any time soon! His empire is crumbling and that's why he needs all this extra protection. You are right to compare Mu7's PGB to Hitler's SS and Sadam's Republican Guards. These dictators are insecure and hence a need for all these soldiers, just protecting one man and maybe his family. This is insane and a wastage of donor and taxpayers' money! Zakoomu M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Museveni has 10,000 guards By David Kibirige March 24, 2004 Gets modern weaponsENTEBBE – The presidential brigade is about 10,000 men strong, military experts say.This is about 7,000 to 6,000 soldiers more than a normal brigade, they add.Army spokesman Maj. Shaban Bantariza declined to establish the exact military strength of the Presidential Guard Brigade.He however, defended its size.“The number has to be big because of the formation. The Presidential Guard Brigade (PGB) is independent of other divisions. They have their own artillery, tank and armored units. So that is why the number is bigger than the usual brigades,” he said.He said PGB soldiers have to be at every presidential lodge in the country.The Monitor has learnt that for the last five years the Presidential Guard Brigade (PGB) has been under going restructuring. It was upgraded from a Presidential Protection Unit (PPU) to a PGB.The commander of the Reserve Force Lt. Gen. Salim Saleh has overseen the restructuring. Lt. Col. Leo Kyanda is the PGB commandant.The headq uarters of the PGB will be at Entebbe. Some of its soldiers will be stationed in every battalion.Highly placed sources told The Monitor that the PGB has also acquired sophisticated weapons. The brigade has anti-aircraft guns, battle cars like mamba and buffalo, tanks and Armored Personnel Carriers (APCs).The commanders of the PGB mechanized unit are different from those of the regular army.On the sophisticated weapons, Bantariza said when at a war, the PGB fights independently of the regular army.He gave an example of Maj. Muhoozi Kainerugaba who at one time commanded PGB troops against the rebel Lord’s Resistance Army in Soroti.President Museveni is currently in Lira over seeing operations against LRA rebels led by Joseph Kony. The PGB soldiers are helping in the fight. © 2004 The Monitor Publications Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] UPC on Federalism
My sentiments exactly! Thank you sir. --- emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you are suggesting then, that what is happening in the north can be dismissed as a simple occurance in history which no one has to be accountable for. I hope your pals are listening...then you should all stop accusing southerners of not being concerned enough for what is happening in the north. You are the same guys who come onto this forum lamenting about how the rest of the country does not seem to care, how you want justice for the north, how President Museveni should be prosecuted and all sorts of bull, yet all silent on Kony and the LRA, who are directly responsible for the killings. If really the LRA was part of the UPDF, how come no southerner has ever been caught or associated with LRA, many former members have surrendered or sought amnesty over many years and not one has ever been a southerner and not one of the former rebels has ever made a southern connection, yet majority of UPDF troops fighting and dying to keep the north safe are southerners. Your theory of UPDF = LRA, seems to some how suggest that President Museveni has succeeded in some how convincing Acholis and Langis to kill each other, through some magicso silly. You don't think a known killer like Obote did anything wrong, someone who's exploits are well documented world wide. At the same time you are blaming President Museveni for the killings of one of your own (Kony). Kony is going to be defeated and then what will you accuse the the president of next i wonder. I want to see how you will make case for President Museveni to be prosecuted, while Obote is left untouched. This is the type of petty politics that UPC is good at and sympotmatic of a party led by a con man (Obote), even people who should know better, like Rwanyarare and Okumu are all being made to look like fools. UPC has no vision, no originality, there aim is to take power by creating animosity between ethnic groups, that is how Obote thrives, he thrives in comotion/caos. You can see his hady work in the way the party is run. Shame, Shame!!! From: Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] UPC on Federalism Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:14:29 + (GMT) You do not need to waste your valuable time honing a stone to extract blood from it.That need no gainsaying. Apologizing is mere conglomeration of words that may have remorse gleaned from otherwise can be easily taken as a misquote. On that note,what would you prefer,mere words that can be taken as a misquote by the press or one who turns backwards to eat the humble pie that (s)he discovers was taken way unfairly?. If the UPC as a party now sees that what happened in 1964-66 was not good and are for a restitution,why should thus bother you?.If you are not mentally prepared for that,then allow us to open the pandora box that is littered everywhere regarding the deeds of the descendants of Kabaka Bemba and his followers.Then we shall all have to start from a clean slate. Everyone is allowed to hold whatever views they have on any organization,political or otherwise but we should not peddle those views as the views of the ethnic groups we belong to. Thank you. Kipenji. J Ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Musaazi: Unless you are a magician, you cann't get blood from a stone or a turnip. That is precisely what you are attempting by asking for remorse from Mr. Kipenji. According to his logic, since there were so many Nazi's in Hitler's Germany, whatever atrocities they committed are OK, and are the norm. It is a fact that the UPC massacred and brutalized us time and again. Now Mr. Kipenji and his cohorts think that Obote is only a gorilla in my dreams, and that I must be full of hate since I cannot somehow cuddle up UPC. I'd sooner sleep in a pit full of black mambas than knowingly have anything to do with the UPC. That is just the way it is, warts and all ... Original Message Follows From: emmanuel musaazi Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] UPC on Federalism Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:19:35 -0500 ...and Mr. Kipenji, your lack of remorse for the attrocities commited by the UPC and it's henchmen under the leadership of Obote does not help situations either. If there is to be national healing in Uganda on the political scene, then let those who cast the first stone apologise and show some remorse first afterall what is good for the gender is good for the goose. This is what i have been saying, about the UPC making a clean break with there ghoulish past. As long as they don't do that then they will continue to be viewed as a party of the past and
Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels
Sister Rehema, Don't waste your breath and time on these sour-pusses. Not too long ago there was an article in Monitor followed by responses and topic was the Baganda and the Northern war. There have also been a lot of discussion on the subject on this forum. To a malcontent, no matter what you do, you are always somehow responsible for his or her misery. Our Kabaka is doing a job, and that's all there is to it. --- Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mulindwa: You said: Today Ssabasajja for the first time has come out and become involved. This is a total lie and you know it. This is not the first time the King has extended his hand into trying to solve the Northern war. 1). The King's foundation scholarship fund has given scholarships to particularly Northern students from war torn areas to continue with their dream of having an education. 2). The King has talked several times before about the war and the suffering of people. 3). He has stayed in contact with Northern traditional chiefs to discuss the issue. 4). One time he wanted to talk to the redels but the gov't 'advised' him not to try it. Actually they stepped in and stopped him just as they have always done to stop 3rd party people from talking peace. I'll make it clear for you again. Ssabasajja is not a formal political leader. You will not see him on the ballot box. Zakoomu R. Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zakoomu I do not know what hole you have popped from, the fact of the matter is that if you were sober enough to follow the discussion which has been very long. Many of us have been complaining of the refusal of Buganda king to make a war from Northern Uganda a part of their concern. We have been wondering why Ssabasajja has decided to keep quite when Ugandans in the North are dying, and when his men are being sent to die from both DRC and Northern Uganda. The infidels in this forum have continuously responded that the Sabasajja can not be involved in these matters for he is a cultural leader not a political leader. Today Sabasajja for the first time has come out and become involved. And I am asking those same infidels as to whether not this Sabasajja is getting involved for he is a political leader? But before they answered me then a an informed and an individual who know no where this discussion came from, decided to rant. That is why I some times log off and just watch. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: Rehema Mukooza To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:05 AM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels Mulindwa: The Kabaka is informally political if you didn't know, in the same way Mengo gov't is an informal gov't. Where have you been, Mulindwa?? He is a traditional leader, and I'll tell that all traditional leaders are informal political leaders of the peoples they lead. Mulindwa, you once criticized the King of Ugandan Kings and Mengo for being reluctant towards peace in the North. Now, are you turning on your words?? You criticized Buganda and Baganda for sleeping/kasita twebaka otulo while fellow Ugandans are dying and suffering in the North. Are you dillusional or what?? Being informally political especially when the leading King of Ugandan Kings is taking peace is something we should be proud of. All informal political/traditional leaders should help bring peace to our motherland. If the formal political leaders have failed to keep up with their duty, let the informal political/traditional leaders try it out and see what they can accomplish. Our formal political leaders have failed as over and over again, we need to wake up and shift our support towards our informal leaders. I have no trust and faith in formal political leaders and yet I have an undeniable trust and faith in my informal political/traditional leader (Kabaka). Why? The political events in our Uganda can talk for themselves. Zakoomu R. Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the Kabaka political now? Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: J Ssemakula To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:57 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels Likewise, I salute the Kabaka for trying to search for peace to end the misery of our suffering brethren. Ssemakula Original Message Follows From: Rehema Mukooza Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:
Re: ugnet_: Nadduli Defends Land Sale
Dear Uganda Netters, Here is why I Haji Nadduli is spot on about the projects issue. In America, taxes are collected at the federal, state, county, and city levels. No one is forced to pay any of the lower taxes (here lower means sub-federal). There is a simple solution if you do not want to pay particular taxes. If you are a Yankee and do not want to pay Texas taxes: just do NOT live in Texas or whatever other state you find offensive. The same applies to other levels of government. Otherwise as long as you enjoy the services provided by a given government, you MUST pay all taxes due to that government. This prevents the practice of mooching, which means to live off other people's sweat like a parasite. There is no free lunch in America. Can we afford to have free luch in Uganda? This is one of the advantages of federalism. It is the surest way of ensuring that every part of Uganda develops. Those who live in Buganda must pay Buganda taxes, but they are welcome to pay whatever amount they want to their home districts. Mary. --- Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In as much as Naduli might be right or wrong, but Buganda must and should start to think in the 21st century. Buganda must look into investment, into job creation, into creating tax bases. But you see it is only comical when we complain on what we must be given. That is why I was so amazed that I have spent now almost three years preaching a gospel of stopping graduated tax system in Uganda, for it is surely the most primitive taxation one can look at. But here I was and Buganda has put its foot down for if it does not get taxation rights in Uganda it is going to refuse the federalism. Where are the critical thinkers in Buganda? Is there any nation you know today that Uses graduated tax system for its funds? It is primitive and it must be stopped hence forth. But Buganda is crying for that and today. Then you look on another one, one of the Preachers of Mengo sermon in the forum, last week reminded COO that Buganda was given the Kampala tax base, which included the Indians'buisnesses. Well but today the Indians are no longer in Uganda, if they are there, the tax base is not as it was, Again Buganda stop thinking that you are still in the year 1500 this is 2003 and moving and fast. For you can not help but wonder, suppose NRM today gives Buganda a right to collect tax who are they going to tax? Again my embattled mother? And is Mengo sure that the population will hand over the monies willingly? If so how many Baganda are pumping money to help Mengo today financially? The population cosmic has as well changed, you will be amazed that today there are more non-Baganda in Buganda, you do not believe me? Try visiting Bweyogerere you will think that you are in Mbaale, Are those good citizens going to pay taxes to maintain the Buganda Kingdom? You see a Mugisu might feel very comfortable paying his taxes to NRM government for it is a Uganda government, but will he pay it to run the Buganda government? Thos are very serious questions Mengo must ask her self, but you see we are not supposed to bring up such questions for then, we are anti Buganda and working for Obote who is the main employer of Ugandans these days. And I will say as I did some moths ago, we should look at the assets, why keep the Mengo government in Bulange, a government which does not raise any funds. Squeezed in a national capital. Why don't we move this government with the King to Bamunanika, we go to Baamunanika and buy a whole land for the land is actually available, we take our cultural leader and vacate the Bulange and most of those Kampala buildings. For trust me Sheraton can pay a good some of money to Mengo if it uses that building, and it will renovate it to the standards of the capital city and Mengo will in the end be the winner, than sticking with it and it is helping Kampala mice to breed. You will one day get a strong mayor for Kampala and he will shut it down, of what value is that to Buganda? Identification crisis? Yes. But uncritical thinking? Very poisonous, just watch as time goes by. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: Omar Kezimbira To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 5:48 PM Subject: ugnet_: Nadduli Defends Land Sale Nadduli Defends Land Sale By Richard Komakech THE Luweero district chairman has challenged the Mengo government to devise projects that will help the Baganda utilise their land instead of selling it. Haji Abdul Nadduli, commenting on the ongoing row between the kingdom and Property Masters, a Kampala real estate agency, said the Baganda are trying to fight poverty through selling their
Re: ugnet_: Nabagereka launches Princess Katrina stamp
Mr. Ssemakula, I, too, normallysteer clear of Mr. Mulindwa's postings. So I'll be brief. Buganda is very much part of Uganda in every way. Uganda is also a multi-cultural nation. There is no need for the Baganda to apologize to anyone for 'promoting' their culture. It'd be more positive if everyone 'promoted' their culture as do the Baganda theirs. Beside the palpable malice and envy that reek in his postings I cannot fathom Mr Mulindwa's problem. --- Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mwaami Ssemakula Thanks for your response but I think you missed the two major issues of this grave concern. 1) If Nabagagereka came on this function as any Ugandan with her daughter there would be no body getting concerned. Let me as well inform you that Nabagereka has actually participated in very many other Buganda functions, and we all have nothing but thanks to her. However this was a national issue on a national institution and on a function of UNICEF. Nabagereka had and has and will never have a position on National issues. That is the difference between her bringing the princess and my bringing my daughter. And let me add that if she brings her daughter as a private person/parent, surely no body will complain, but when she comes as Nabagereka bringing the Princess, those are very dangerous grounds and Ugandans must ask why. 2) You state and I quote The stamp promotes the idea of childhood in Uganda But Nabagereka stated and I again quote The new stamps are culturally important to Buganda and they would help to display its vast heritage Why do we have those two discrepancies, should we believe you or Nabagereka? And I understand that you might have got your text from Radio Ssimba which was abbreviated, but I happen to have got the entire transcript of her speech. Nabagereka's speech was about promoting Buganda's culture, which she clearly does every day and I have no problem with that. But when she gets a national institution to promote Buganda's culture, Ugandans must first give her a go ahead. And you might not take this serious, but we as Ugandans have very few institutions left in Uganda to identify as national, and Uganda posta happens to be one of them. And Mwaami Ssemakula, the way you have responded I wonder one thing. Are you stating today that the Kingdom of Toro can name Entebbe airport, The Ayo International Airport to promote the Toro culture? Because they are people from Toro which happens to be part of Uganda. Please clarify. As I said before federalism can not build democracy it is the other way around. And Nabagereka's hijacking of a national institution and she uses it to promote Buganda culture is a clear example of why Ugandans are afraid of your kind of federalism. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: J Ssemakula To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:55 AM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Nabagereka launches Princess Katrina stamp Mr. Mulindwa, You ask: I am going to start with Nabagereka, for some reason she is right that Buganda has a vast heritage, but who told her that she has a right to get a national institution like Posta Uganda to promote the culture of Buganda? I see no problem here. Nnaabagereka, the most significant Lady in Buganda, is a Muganda and therefore a Ugandan. Buganda is part of the nation known as Uganda. The child in question, Omumbejja Ssangalyambogo, is a Muganda and therefore a Ugandan child. The stamp promotes the idea of childhood in Uganda. Next time a national institution seeks a child to use as model for a Ugandan child, please feel free to offer the services of your own child(ren). End of story. --- Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ugandans On June 16th 2003 Posta Uganda launched three new stamps honouring Princess Katrina-Sarah Ssangalyambogo of Buganda. It is stated that the stamps were a dedication to all children of Uganda. Nabagereka stated that the new stamps are culturally important to Buganda and they would help to display its vast heritage. There are more of those details in New Vision of June 17th 2003 if you want any more details. What I want to do tonight is to look at this action which took place in our nation and to wonder whether it was right. I am going to start with Nabagereka, for some reason she is right that Buganda has a vast heritage, but who told her that she has a right to get a national institution like Posta Uganda to promote the culture of Buganda? And I am going to base my argument from the fact that I live in a nation with the greatest Federalism in the World. Federalism to survive in any nation, it must start
Re: ugnet_: KATEGAYAIN LEGAL PRACTICE
I wonder: what would Mu7 do, if he were 'dropped' as president? I mean, is he trained to do anything meaningful or what is his profession, if any? --- Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kategaya In Legal Practice By Vision Reporter FORMER First deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Internal Affairs, Eriya Kategaya, has gone back to legal practice. Kategaya, who was dropped in the weekend cabinet reshuffle, revealed this yesterday at a low-key hand over ceremony to the new internal affairs minister Ruhakana Rugunda. Dropped state minister for internal affairs Sarah Namusoke Kiyingi also handed over to former minister for environment, Dr. Kezimbira Miyingo. Kategaya, without a single bodyguard, drove in a personal red Volvo to the ministry headquarters on Jinja Road, for the function. I am now in private practice. That is why I am dressed like this (in a jacket and necktie)the things I had for long abandoned, Kategaya said, provoking a bout of laughter. This morning (yesterday) I was being inaugurated to my chambers at EADB towers, fifth floor. Anytime you want to see me or in case you want legal services you, now know where to get me. Kategaya said he had no ill feelings over his removal. Since the reshuffle, I have been receiving calls as if it is tragedy. Some have been sending me emissaries and others saying sorry. For me if the boss thinks that you are not contributing, that is it, he said, causing more laughter. Ends Published on: Wednesday, 28th May, 2003 The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com
