is - how would one go about configuring wifi without a hard wired
Ethernet connection? Would the HDMI port give me a terminal view into
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I am very happy with picoreplayer :-) However, I do have a question.
Where can I find the LMS custom-convert.conf file? Would like to make
some manual changes but can't find it or where to put it.
There's none by default. The _custom_-convert.conf file you'll have to
create. Whatever you do in
I have it as an App in mySB and always have so I haven't noticed any
difference. Are you saying if I switch it off in mySB it will still show
in LMS? I have 7.9.1
I think it would show up as simply "Internet Radio" rather than
"TuneIn". But the functionality remains the same. You can enter
mherger wrote:
LMS 7.9 should be pretty much independent of mysb.com - except for the
music services, as you guessed correctly.
What about Sounds and Effects? Are those still on mysb.com?
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Are you working on a TuneIn plugin for LMS by any chance? I am right in
thinking that TuneIn provides most of the radio feeds for mySB ?
It's there already in 7.9.x. What are you missing?
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Perhaps one quesion I have in mind. If mysqueezebox.com goes away, I
guess we only lose stuff related to radios, apps, etc? In other words,
is picoreplayer and lms futureproof regarding this?
LMS 7.9 should be pretty much independent of mysb.com - except for the
music services, as you guessed
Oh, it runs in an error
And what does it say?
Can't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC (you may need to install the inc::Module::Install module) (@INC contains:
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root@audioserver:~# /usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver
The following modules failed to load: DBI EV XML::Parser::Expat HTML::Parser
JSON::XS Digest::SHA1 YAML::XS Sub::Name
What does "perl -v" say?
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Is it possible for me to upgrade the LMS in piCorePlayer to 7.9.1? I'm
http://picoreplayer.sourceforge.net/how_to_upgrade_lms.shtml - this
describes the procedure. Once you're on 7.9.1, the regular update
through the web UI should work.
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Not really, systemd handles old init scripts okay. I'm just not sure
why --norestart was needed with the older Debian packages.
Oh, that's LMS specific: there's the squeezebox_safe (or similar)
wrapper script which would automatically restart LMS if it crashed.
Therefore LMS should not be
For what it's worth, debian/ubuntu is now systemd
Does this conflict with our current package?
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Linux.pm and Debian.pm do not redefine canRestartServer
Oh, you're right. On Debian the --norestart startup parameter is
applied, because there's the _safe watchguard. I guess that could be
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Unix.pm should have set canRestartServer to 1. But if something turned
that off, then you won't see it.
Edit your server.prefs to be sure this is still set to 1
It's not a preference set in the prefs file, but a decision taken at
runtime. Unix is the mother of Linux and Debian etc. The
LMS never prompts for a restart after installing plugins for me on a Pi
and hasn't for years.I am pretty sure it used to when I was running a
Squeezeplug but it stopped offering a restart at some point while I was
still using the Squeezeplug.
It depends on the Linux flavour you're using. Maybe
I'm using the same setup, LMS restarts itself just fine. I am running
from the git source code, but that shouldn't make a difference.
It might be related to the Custom.pm changes I applied. Would have to
look them up in detail...
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Yeah I understand that. I want to restart LMS without needing any
password. I know it's possible but can't figure it out.
Doesn't LMS give you the restart prompt after updating the plugins?
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I would like to use SaverSwitcher bur i find no way configuring it. Is
it still working on recent pCP ? All i found about SaverSwitcher is
quite old.
Are you talking about the SaverSwitcher plugin in LMS? That does only
support the old players, like Boom, Classic, Transporter.
Another
The official Pi Zero W case is quite pretty and its not difficult to
hide the USB connection.
If you plan to hide it anyway, why bother about the case?
BTW: JustBoom do dedicated cases for their hats, too. Pi 0 plus hat
would result in a compact black box, with fewer cables to hide.
Its
I hear what you say but for aesthetic reasons I wanted to avoid a pHAT
as there are so few Zero + pHAT cases available and most are just plain
ugly.
Uglier than a Pi case with a USB dongle plugged in to its back?...
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For clarity, I have _not__ tried using the version of CPAN I built from
scratch with the tar file I downloaded today and ran. I just tried to
run the slimserver within the directory of the distribution I
downloaded.
In this case you'll have to make sure you manually copy the resulting
files to
I know there is a 'Now Playing' button on the top right (I'm using PCP +
Jivelite with the official 7" screen) but I'm using JustBoom DAC cards
and so I bought the JustBoom Smart Remote. This works superbly; however
it doesn;t seem to allow navigation to the NBow Playing button, so if it
Just
I'm trying to track down why the LMS web ui crashes in Chrome (I suspect
Ghostery, but...)
Why don't you try without then?
I opened an issue in the Slimserver repository for it:
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/issues/145
And I responded already.
I don't know where to find the
Hi, When I power down my piCorePlayer and power it back up, it starts
Jivelite with a grid screen. Is there a way to default it to a different
scree? I'm using LIRC remote and the SB Remote has no way to send
"Enter". I'd love it to start with the HD Skin (1280X720)
Select whatever skin you
I've got a Pi Zero W and I wondered if there's a way of configuring wifi
directly on the SD card prior to insertion into the Pi? Thanks.
http://picoreplayer.sourceforge.net/how_to_setup_wifi_on_pcp_without_ethernet.shtml
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zswap (Compressed Ram Disk using zram kernel module and lz4 compression)
is enabled by default. But a swapfile is disabled by default. If you
Ok, didn't know. I did find some discussion around the topic where
someone suggested removing nozswap. But I didn't know you did this by
default in
I am an old Touch user and I know vu-meters are only available when the
player is the touch, so yes, JiveLite is running on the Orange Pi One
which is also the player. There is something like an attempt to render
graphic things, but nothing clear is visible, it sounds like a graphic
error.
Ok,
- I have deselected some options (like "Artwork") in the "NowPlaying"
menu and then the options are no more here in the menu. Is there any way
to see them back?
The choices in this menu depend on the skin used. The one you're using
doesn't offer any options.
- seems in the 1920x1080 some
I am planning to migrate my HiFI to an rpi 3 with piCorePlayer. I will
install the rpi within a preamplifer (DIY, Self-Huff design). I would
like to add Alexa into this mix for music selection. The rpi will output
via the gpio to an external DAC.
I don't think pCP is the right place to start an
The traditional look with rounded corners, gradients and stuff feels
very dated. While the technology of the squeezebox system is still able
to compete on equal footing with giants such as sonos.
Get a copy of the code. Explore the images folder. Replace files. Post
results. I'm looking
i'm facing an issue with adjusting the screen brightness in jivelite
using the picoreplayer version 3.20. I am using the official raspberry
pi display.
I think there's an issue with hard-coded paths in the pCP applet. The
paths have changed, the applet wasn't updated.
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Are you saying there are screens which can't be exited with the Left
button?!? What would they need on a real Touch?
Yes I believe that there are some pages that do not work with the remote
and not for the reason I discussed with Ralphy
I have to check the code whether we can change this
Are you saying there are screens which can't be exited with the Left
button?!? What would they need on a real Touch?
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In pcp you can update /home/tc/www/cgi-bin/do_rebootstuff.sh to use
/opt/jivelite/bin/jivelite-sp instead and quit is gone.
...or you touch & hold the item to hide it. Lets you re-enable it again
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I use the Quit item all the time.
IMHO it's a dev left-over - I usually remove it... Who besides us would
have a need to restart jivelite without restarting the device?
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I tried replacing the framework call with the os shutdown but couldn't
make it work.
The command is not executed, you just get the screen bump.
"sudo: shutdown: command not found" :-)
Use "halt" instead and it works as expected.
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Not without recompiling the jivelite binary.
The Quit applet registers a Quit event which resides in the C code to
handle an orderly shutdown of all the resources jivelite opens.
But you could replace that call with aforementioned instruction in the
lua applet code, couldn't you?
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Remove these files?
Yes.
Should I move all of the files under CPAN over to the
slimserver-CPAN.tcz extension. Even though I named the extension
slimserver-CPAN, I only put files that were generated by
slimserver-vendor build script in this extension.
Well... the "noCPAN" label is a bit
[17-04-11 19:59:53.8746] Slim::Display::Lib::Fonts::__ANON__ (83)
Loading Font::FreeType
[17-04-11 19:59:53.9512] Slim::Display::Lib::Fonts::__ANON__ (85)
Warning: Unable to load TrueType font support: Font::FreeType object
version 0.07 does not match $Font::FreeType::VERSION 0.03 at
This is from the log on startup:
Please add debug logging for player.fonts (Settings/Advanced/Logging),
check the "keep settings for restart" (or similar) box at the top of
that page, restart LMS. Then check the server.log again.
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[17-04-11 08:21:33.9669] main::init (388) Starting Logitech Media Server
(v7.9.0, 1488878280, Wed Mar 8 14:07:50 UTC 2017) perl 5.024000 -
arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int
Paul - could there be a timing problem? The extension being initialized
after LMS or something?
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Well that was a little bit of a challange.
Thanks a lot for accepting it :-). This and the little request I saw led
me to give up on building it for newer systems...
But then pCP comes with its own Perl build anyway, doesn't it? You're
using 5.24?
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Would you get those characters when running LMS from a different
platform (PC or Mac)?
Do you mean hosting LMS on a windows pc? If so I haven't done that.
Yes, that's what I was asking.
But when I access LMS from a windows pc I can see the fonts render
correctly.
It's not about the
Anyway on the SB3 (using PCP) Japanese and Chinese characters in my
music tags show up in pinyin form (ie romanised characters eg the
character æ shows up as "ming" instead of the character). From google
searches it would seem that I need to replace certain fonts in LMS but I
can't seem to
One slight aesthetic thing though Michael, wouldn't the "toasts" look
nicer centered on the album artwork rather than centered on the screen ?
This might indeed look nicer. But as the position isn't hard-coded, but
laid out based on the screen resolution, specific placements are harder
to do
To persist a reboot, add *ln -s /mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/mac
/usr/local/bin/mac* to one of user commands lines on the tweaks webgui
page and save the config.
Ah... good reminder. I always forget about the possibility to add custom
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Oh, I forgot the "pcp bu" and tried to kill/restart it in place (using a
keyboard). It somehow messed things up.
For the jive files use
/home/tc/.jivelite/userpath/jive/slim
That would
I'm quite surprised ape format is not supported as it's popular and ever
growing in the hi-res community.
Flac is pretty widely accepted as the de-facto lossless compression
tool. APE is rather exotic compared to it, without any real advantage.
According to this comparison table on
When I'm modifying jivelite files on pcp, I create the folder structure
under /home/tc/.jivelite/userpath/applets and put the file(s) I'm
working on in there. They are then included in the pcp bu command and
survive a reboot.
I had to edit one files from the jive/slim sub-folder. There's no
Any idea what I am doing wrong ? I would like to "do my bit" and correct
the positioning of the "toast" in the 1920x1080 "Large Now Playing"
Oh, I've already done that...
https://github.com/ralph-irving/jivelite/commit/4fcd0e2af277763e48d00caca48b9fbc156a2d60
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Can you tell me how you edited that file on pCP? It's all read-only,
therefore you'll have to apply some trickery.
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Can anyone please let me know if I can play APE files?
Is the Pi (pCP) using arm or armhf binaries?... I see that we don't have
mac (the Monkey Audio Console Front End) for armhf, but arm only. Lack
of mac would mean there's no APE support.
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I have tried the edits to JogglerSkinApplet.lua but when I copy this to
/opt/jivelite/share/jive/applets/JogglerSkin/JogglerSkinApplet.lua and
restart jivelite it just loops.
The loop would be the result of jivelite crashing due to some error in
the script. Make sure you didn't include the
I tried the edit on both systems, both work fine although does not
survive a reboot on Pcp even with a backup.
Oh, nice! Yes, the change doesn't survive a boot. You could certainly
script the change and apply it on boot automatically. Or you wait for
ralphy to provide new packages: I
The particular system next to my bed actually uses a FLIRC to do the IR
(so keyboard emulation) but on my other systems I use an IR receiver and
lircd.
I must admit I've never used IR on Pis. I actually hardly ever use IR
except for the Harmony setup on my TV...
So am I assuming right that
Maybe just a two Dots (one for Shuffle one for repeat) somewhere so we
can see that either is on in some form ?
The Touch skin would show the current state as you hit those buttons on
the remote. So the code clearly is there. I only have to figure out how
to make this happen.
Might be a
Is there any chance that the "Repeat" and "Shuffle" Icons can be added
to you "Large artwork" now playing screen savers ?
You can select what buttons to see in the Settings.
Or some simple indication that they are on would be enough so when I
accidentally touch a button on my remote I do not
Wondered if it might be a power issue. I have the whole lot powered with
a Raspberry Pi adapter and gpio connections. Could this be an issue?
What's the power supply's specs? I'm running my Pi2 & 7" display & wifi
dongle from an iPad charger (5.1V/2.1A). Depending on the cable used I'd
get
I have a Raspberry 7 inch screen attached to a Pi 3 b and an Iqaudio
Dac+. I use this as a Roon Endpoint and control the screen etc with the
Roon Controller from my IPad. It's great and is rarely problematic. One
issue is the home screen. Sometimes, when I begin to play a track form
my Roon
My touch screen is a 3.5inch, 320×480 and Jivelite is not able to adapt
his existing skins.
is this portrait mode (320px wide) or landscape (480px wide)? I've
recently done some changes to a few of the skins which should make them
pretty much scalable by defining the size on the command line.
I found a skin for jivelite (I tested it on a standard debian ) that
works with the 3.5" screen but I do not manage to install it to
jivelite.
What skin? Make sure you're running the latest jivelite build as
outlined in this posting:
What makes sense from mySB point of view.
Anything goes :-). I thought that at some point we did not accept
duplicate names. But quite obviously that's not the case. Using pCP and
some kind of postfix seems reasonable to me. As the MAC address is part
of the registration anyway this seems
In the End i will have this:22267 or better:
But these are still displays which can't be used with jivelite. You need
a graphical display, or do some heavy development to either get
squeezeslave running on the pCP or re-implement the UI from scratch.
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Sorry 'here' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOP4UM5H4MY)
VERY nice indeed! I thought something like that would be feasible. But I
didn't even find a display module in this kind of size. IMHO that would
be your best bet.
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Here is a nice video with a oled display and Jivelite
Where is it?
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Hmm, this is not a good answer. ;-)
Ok, the actual, correct answer to your question would be: "No".
I only tried to show an alternative approach, as you can't use a GUI
(JiveLite) on a 4x20 character display. Another alternative might be to
try to get a high resolution graphical display
Is it possible that the output from Jivelite only over SPi to an 4x20
LCD or Vfd runs, without only other displays?
I think you'd be better off using SqueezeSlave as your player. It
already offers an emulation of the full SB Classic UI.
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Is there anyway to set a screen timeout on jivelite with piCorePlayer? I
cant seem to find one, its so annoying that the screen is on all the
time. I have it running on the Joggler and that has an option for this
but it seems absent on the piCorePlayer version or am I missing
something?
Have
The word clock does not seem to work at all, does not even seem to
"trigger" at power off
I thought I had done that. But clearly I missed it. I've committed
another change which should enable it in the HD skins. As with some of
the grid skins, black bars would be added left/right or
It works fine at 1920x1080 although not as pretty as on the touchscreen
its not too bad and way better than a blank screen.
What about the analog clock? Or what would you like to see improved? I
mean, the digital clock is pretty bare bones, just numbers and names.
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I only use the "Digital Clock (Black)" so that would be my preferred :)
I committed a bunch of changes to improve the clock scaling on HD and
new Touch and Grid skins. Digital and Analog Clock should work (though
the AM/PM is a bit out of place for some resolutions...).
The Word Clock
your right in that the Joggler skin fits better, having tried your
800x640 Grid Skin thats working well.
You mentioned PI Grid Skin, I can't find that?
The "Grid Skin" internally is called PiGridSkin (as I first created it
for the original Pi display)
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I found this setting in the most recent Windows version of JiveLite the
other day. It hasn't yet made it to the pCp version so far as I can tell
but I think it should ASAP.
It's in the builds Ralphy has provided in this thread. Check out his
latest postings. There are instructions how to
Is there any chance that someone can scale the "Clock" screensavers for
1920x1080.
Unfortunately I don't have the original artwork for these. Which means
we'd have to upscale the existing by 400%. That just won't look good.
Somebody would need to come up with new artwork to make them look
My first test, i clone your git and copy them to
~/.jivelite/userpath/applets.
No, just the two skin subfolders I mentioned. You'd actually not even
need to copy the images folder. Only the text and lua files. And watch
the "jivelite for picoreplayer" thread as Ralphy is updating the
i run an Raspberry Pi2 with an 7" Touch Display.
Its a display with 1024 x 600 resolution. The Skin in Jivelite is to
small for the display.
Does it not work at all, or not for best results?
I added a 1024x600 grid layout a few days ago, but it's not available
for piCorePlayer yet (unless you
Hmmm - tried on a different RPi server but with same JiveLite and it
worked fine ... so looks like I have a local problem and it is not
JiveLite issue.
It might work with LMS 7.9 but not olders?
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PS - Are the screenshots your real library ? If so you have quite a
range of tastes.
I'm not alone in this house, and we're 80s kids. Our tastes have
certainly evolved over time (and I am not ready to easily let go what I
once loved - still storing thousands of photographic slides in the
I can see the day when other RPi screen resolutions are just as popular
as the current official 800x600. This will result in someone taking
piGridSkin and modifying it to suit. Then another
I added support for three more popular resolutions (1024x600, 1280x800,
1366x768). "Text only" Now
Is it working in Jivelite for Windows / OSX etc as opposed to
Squeezeplay ?
Yes - see my screenshots.
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I was playing around with your new piGridSkin yesterday and was
wondering, if you removed the vertical separator between the button you
might be able to squeeze an extra button in. I think I did see one of
the skins doesn't have the vertical separators?? Just a thought.
They're 2px wide - I'd
I'm trying to get Jivelite via Picoreplayer working on a screen with the
following specs 6.5-inch 16:9 ratio color LCD screen with 400x240
resolution
Are you running the HDGridSkin on a 400x240 display?!? That skin is
considered to be running in full HD (1920x1080). I'd rather try the
Would it look a little better if the album image was framed
No :-).
I really wanted to have the artwork as large as possible. And with most
Pi display cases offering more black framing than I'd consider elegant,
I don't see why I would want to add some black pixels. But that's
obviously
The latest update is scaling the time bar correctly from Pandora. Did
you make a change here Michael, or did something else change?
https://github.com/ralph-irving/jivelite/commit/f0312046625393d6a550a691c5cf700999e3664f
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In what folder is the .png file for the "back" icon that is now just a
white arrow. I would like to try it as totally transparent.
It's not a single file, but a bunch of files for corners, sides, fill:
I don't see the skip backward "<<" button. Also, if the volume has been
set for 100%, can the volume up and down buttons be removed?
I pushed a change which would add a Settings/Display/Now Playing/Buttons
for Large Artwork... menu. There you can select which options to display
in that mode.
Did you remove the background reducing the touchable area to the arrow?
No, the area should still be the same. It just doesn't show anything.
Or did you make the background transparent so that the icon area is
touchable?
Yes, that's rather it. I didn't make it transparent, I simply told it
Not sure how to take a screen shot from the device.
I usually take my smartphone :-). But I thought there was some key
combination, or even a single key. Crtl-S or something? I'd have to dig
the code.
This happens when
streaming from Pandora. Playing from local media is fine.
Ok, that's
Also noticed the scaling of the track position is wrong. Looks like the
same scaling as the normal screen, so it goes off the page.
Would you have a screenshot illustrating the issue?
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The volume up/down buttons flash when touched, the volume is not
changed, the volume slider stays full right and the volume slider does
not have the "blue" oval on it.
I think I've found related code in jivelite/squeezeplay. OTOH I've been
playing with the idea of making the buttons
Also, the "back" button at top left corner, can it be more transparent ?
Yes, that one is bugging me, too. As you can see from my screenshots I
once had it squeezed in on the right hand side. But I'm so used to
putting my hand on the left corner to reach the back button that I
wanted to move
The code that you are referring to is just Jivelite for piCorePlayer is
it not?
I think it's inherited from Squeezeplay. What is worse: it might be
somewhere deep in the C code of it. Which would complicate things
considerably for me (considering my poor C). I remember that I once
submitted
One question though, is the touch area to change to the next "Now
Playing" screen in the correct place. It seems to be only active to the
right of the text, rather than the middle of the screen.
Yes, that's a side effect of the limitation I mentioned: The touch event
isn't handled correctly
You don't really need either the "<<" or ">>" as the little blue spot on
the bar showing the position of the time to play / played is sticky
allowing a swipe to skip either forward or backward.
Well, they're there to skip to previous/next tracks, too. Skipping back
is missing. But I rarely go
As you see I've removed most of the control buttons at the bottom. What
choice of buttons would you want to have there?
I don't see the skip backward "<<" button.
That doesn't directly answer my question. But I guess what you wanted to
say is that you'd like to have the back button there?
that looks good to me. one thing that bugs me is the lack of a decent
generic picture
something nicer than a grey blob would be nicer for those without
artwork :)
If you don't have artwork, then you should probably not use the "large
artwork" screensaver ;-).
I wonder how hard it would be
I really think you should start to investigate why your log and cache
folders disappear. LMS failing is just a side-effect.
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settings like in the deb control files. After a reboot both files are
gone. Seems like some cleanup is happening somewhere.
But that's something somewhere in your system, not in LMS.
Worst case you could re-direct those folders to some other folder of
your choice, defining the paths in the
I copied the full command string and appended --d_startup --debug >>
dump.log
And it kept running? It didn't stop? Please run the same command again
without the --daemon or & (if any) so it stays in the terminal window.
Would it just continue to run? Or would you get any failure?
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I don't know how to do that. You you mean using a similar command than
the one in init.d/logitechmediaserver and run it as a console task
without all the extra bits?
Yes, just run the command:
/usr/sbin/logitechmediaserver
in a terminal window (please adjust the path and filename
LMS_safe = 'logitechmediaserver' plus the '_safe' suffix. Which
The _safe task is a process watcher which would restart the main task if
needed. You should always see both of them, or something's wrong.
I think the LMS executable is stored in /usr/sbin or /usr/local/sbin.
Could you try to
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