Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-21 Thread epoch1970
Some comments. If you need to press F1, and then it boots, I'd say grub is fine, but the BIOS does not boot on the right device. Can you simply change something to the BIOS boot order and get a straight boot ? /dev/mapper/ -> you're still using the "big device" virtualization layer on the CF.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-21 Thread Shellness
I managed to get a number of things running, e.g. Squeeze Server, which is a -lot- quicker than on my PC However, I just couldn't get the root pointer correct so I thought the best things was to reinstall. I did this with setting my own partitions and this seems fine, except that on boot the mac

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-20 Thread epoch1970
VolGroup00 sounds like and LVM system ? From afar you can consider LVM is same as RAID; it federates multiple volumes to create a big one. You surely don't need that on a CF, and most probably on the server. As with RAID there are drawbacks an admin may want to cope with, but not the casual user.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-19 Thread maggior
NeilT;548939 Wrote: > > Regarding disk formats, linux has to be on Ext2, 3 or 4. I don't really > know what the difference is. I have my HDD formatted as Fat32 because I > also access if from windows machines over the network. You can do this > with Ext formatted drives, but its a lot harder to

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-19 Thread NeilT
GParted should give you loads of text, then a graphical window similar to what you see in the bottom of the screenshots at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php. If it isn't then I think it has stopped loading. Don't know why. But if you've managed to format your drives anyway it doesn't

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-19 Thread Shellness
Well, I seem to have had a degree of success. Thanks to you all for the tips and forbearance. There are some open questions. I started a new install prior to NeilT’s advice and selected the manual partition option. I reckon I have made a settings error, however, since I can boot from the CF wi

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-19 Thread NeilT
and I would recommend an early form of Ubuntu (8.04) because it will have Grub rather than Grub2 - much easier to edit. Neil -- NeilT NeilT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24306 View this th

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-19 Thread NeilT
Shellness;548773 Wrote: > > I have no means of formatting the HDDs short of buying a USB-to-SATA > cable hence I am going through this routine (plus, as you say, it is a > learning experience). I thought I might be able to format the HDD by > putting it in my lap top but my laptop uses ATA. Li

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-18 Thread Shellness
Thanks again for the replies. I wonder whether you can comment on where I am going wrong in reloading the OS (or better still, how to get the boot to work from the CF without requiring the USB to be plugged in). Thinking that I may have had a corrupted ISO that caused me to get the GRUB prompt I

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-18 Thread epoch1970
+1: replug everything as it is intended to be in the end, setup the BIOS as is intended too (esp. HDD order), then reinstall from USB. This being said: - Sorry the previous attempt didn't work out. - It seems you did fine with nano; The differences you saw were normal; you should have touched on

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-18 Thread NeilT
I had (what I think is) a similar problem to you this weekend and it took me hours to work it out. As Epoch1970 says above I think your original problem is that the identifiers for the drives have changed when you put the hard drives in from what they were when you installed ClearOS. I have a si

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-18 Thread Shellness
Thanks for the "commenting out" explanation - it will be a few more hours before I can try it since I have hit the buffers again. After reloading the OS from the USB the system will only boot with the USB attached. If I adjust the BIOS to boot from the CF the system just gives me the GRUB prompt

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-18 Thread maggior
Shellness;548576 Wrote: > I didn’t grasp the “commenting out” direction(*) and could not find > anything helpful on the internet. Basically there will be a line in the /etc/fstab file that tells the system to mount the hard drive. The file supports comments, which means you can add text to th

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-18 Thread Shellness
I didn’t grasp the “commenting out” direction(*) and could not find anything helpful on the internet. Consequently I attempted to follow epoch’s suggestion and I think I must have made some duff entries as the machine failed to boot (the final text on the console screen at end of the boot attempt

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-17 Thread epoch1970
Shellness;547167 Wrote: > If I boot with the HDDs unattached everything goes fine. If I boot with > the HDDs attached, and the BIOS set to disable the SATAs, everything > goes fine -but- it is booting from the HDD. You can try this. - boot the system without HDDs attached. - run "mount" and see

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-17 Thread maggior
Out of curiosity, I did some research on ClearOS since I had never heard of it. I see that it is a new name for Clark Connect, which was based on RedHat Linux. I also see that none of their documentation (based on a quick perusal) doesn't really help with this situation. Another thing you might

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-17 Thread maggior
No problem. I'm glad to see you are being persistent with this issue. You'll figure it out and you'll learn a lot from it! Ultimately, what you are trying to do here is format the hard disc so it doesn't have a boot partition on it. So let's attack it from that angle. If it were me, the next

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-17 Thread Shellness
Thanks for your patience. The prompt after booting is “[r...@server ~]#”. I did “cd /” and got “[r...@server /]#”. I.e. the sole change is the swap from “~” to “/” following the server name. I then tried -umount /dev/sdb1- and got the response -umount: /: device is busy-. I retried yesterday’

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-16 Thread maggior
If you have any programs running or command prompts open, make sure that you are not in a directory that is on the mounted drive. I've done that myself a bunch of times. Execute the umount command from the root directory ("cd /" will get you there). -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-16 Thread Shellness
Thanks for the reply and explanation of disc size. Meanwhile, I keep hitting buffers. Using -umount /dev/sda1- got the response -umount: /: device is busy-. I looked around the internet and found the commands -fuser –u /dev/sdb1- and then -fuser –k /dev/sdb1- which each returned the root prompt

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-13 Thread snarlydwarf
Shellness;547229 Wrote: > > - 2) both SDA & SDB are 1Tb yet the size is shown as 916Gb & 902 Gb > respectively – I’ve lost nearly 100Gb per HDD > No you haven't. Drive makers mean '1,000,000,000,000' when they say it is a terabyte. Computers like powers of 2, not 10. So, 916Gb = 916 *1024 *

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-13 Thread maggior
The hard drive is mounted. You can't format it while it is mounted. Use the command "umount /dev/sda1" to unmount it. Then try your format command. It probably recognizes it as a formatted disk and is auto mounting it. Hopefully that gets you out of your situation. -- maggior Rich -

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-13 Thread Shellness
Unfortunately I’m still stuck. The BIOS doesn’t offer a boot priority as such, it offers boot sequence (with Enabling/Disabling per item). I managed to format SDA but I just cannot format SDB which has the boot on it. When I type the following commands I get the subsequent statements: fdisk /d

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-13 Thread maggior
Glad you are having some success. It sounds like you are almost there. That's strange - it seems that the BIOS is ignoring the fact that you have told it to disable the SATA ports. Does the BIOS have an option to set a priority to each boot device. If so, you would want to make sure that the C

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-13 Thread Shellness
Thanks for the reply. I started again, reloading everything from scratch, and it worked. I still have a problem, however. If I boot with the HDDs unattached everything goes fine. If I boot with the HDDs attached, and the BIOS set to disable the SATAs, everything goes fine -but- it is booting f

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-13 Thread maggior
When I setup my system, I received my IDE/CF adaptor before my flash card. To try things out, I grabbed an old 2GB card I had for my camera. It seemed to install, but failed miserably when it booted. I was worried, but it worked fine when I got the new card. What are the specs of the card that

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-13 Thread Shellness
I thought I was going to report back that everything went well. However… I wonder whether you can spot where I have gone wrong and advise on what to do, please? I got an 8Gb CF to use in place of the 2Gb and everything went swimmingly, things seemed to install fine until I was asked to

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-12 Thread maggior
No formatting required. The OS installation will format the card as one of its steps. I used an 8GB flash card with a speed of 233x from Ridata. 2GB might be a little tight. I would limit the size of you install. For instance, I wouldn't install the full desktop package. Flash cards have a

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-12 Thread Shellness
Interesting, thanks. You say you did no preparation of the CF beforehand. Does this mean you didn't even format it? What size is the CF you use? Mine is 2Gb. The ClearOS ISO is just over 700Mb. Thanks. -- Shellness S

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Booting from Compact Flash

2010-05-12 Thread maggior
I have a similar setup on one of my servers. The approach that I took was to first only install the CF card in the system and run the Linux installation. This would ensure that the OS would only install files on the CF card. Afterwards, I would connect the hard drive(s) and go through the proce