Re: arrayToJSON on lc server

2023-10-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
the externalfunctions doesn't seem to be returning anything for a project i just opened (never tested it, before). that project has a lot of standalone inclusions, some of which have external functions, so i don't know if it means externals that are directly attached to the stack (like old

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-16 Thread kee nethery via use-livecode
I’ve stopped development of my Mac app because LiveCode does not support in-app purchases (ie, allowing me to get paid) and the deployment hassle is just not worth it for an app that has no way to make money. There is NO REASON for each developer to painfully figure out how to deploy apps when

arrayToJSON on lc server

2023-10-16 Thread Neville Smythe via use-livecode
I am having a problem with the function arrayToJSON on LC Server 9.6.10 pro (Linux host) (I couldn't get it to work on earlier versions either) I get the error Function: error in function handler (arrayToJSON) The mergJSON.so file is in the Externals folder, which resides in the same

Re: Another macOS Codesigning/Notarization issue

2023-10-16 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
The uninformative error dialog is what I got when the app was corrupted but I doubt that's the problem for yours. But if code signing is the issue you usually get a different dialog with a reason. Have you tried Matthias' helper tool? Once I fixed my app it worked perfectly. You can download

Re: All Versions of LC crashing in Sonoma

2023-10-16 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Yes, that was the question I was answering. Best Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com > On 13 Oct 2023, at 18:58, matthias rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > > Yes that is definitely the case. > > But Bill asked if Apple will "fix that in

Re: Universal buttons: bugs or feature

2023-10-16 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Thanks Ralf. I quite like the look of the Universal button myself. Since its a widget, if you come up with a revision and want it tested I’d be happy try it in my current project. Best, Mark Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2023, at 10:46 PM, Ralf Bitter via use-livecode > wrote: > >

Re: Universal buttons: bugs or feature

2023-10-15 Thread Ralf Bitter via use-livecode
Neither, it is quite simply sloppiness. Sorry for that, will look into it. Ralf On 15.10.2023 21:23, Mark Smith via use-livecode wrote: Are these differences in the Universal button deliberate features or bugs? If features, why so? ___

Another macOS Codesigning/Notarization issue

2023-10-15 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Help, I am trying to switch Notarization tools for the Apple November deadline. I was using macOS Mojave with Xcode 10.2.1 and not (to use the new mandated Notary tool) have to move to Sonoma with Xcode 15.0.0. I have signed, notarized, and stapled (all responses returned were what the

Universal buttons: bugs or feature

2023-10-15 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Hello all, Recently I decided to try out a number of different button styles to see which ones I liked best, and I ran across some odd behaviour with “Universal” buttons. First, there does not appear to be any style difference between an enabled universal button and a disabled one. With all

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/14/2023 7:12 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Hi all, there is a way to export a Apple ID account including developer certificates and provisioning profiles at once using Xcode. See here https://dl.qck.nu/?dl=Transfer-Copy_Developer_Account_to_a_new_computer.pdf Regards,

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Hi all, there is a way to export a Apple ID account including developer certificates and provisioning profiles at once using Xcode. See here https://dl.qck.nu/?dl=Transfer-Copy_Developer_Account_to_a_new_computer.pdf Regards, Matthias > Am 14.10.2023 um 06:52 schrieb Mark Smith via

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Perfect. I am sure I knew that at one point but had forgotten. Thank you for the reminder. Mark > On 14 Oct 2023, at 6:15 pm, Paul Dupuis wrote: > > On 10/14/2023 12:52 AM, Mark Smith wrote: >> Paul, just so I understand this problem better. Is there a reason why you >> can’t just download

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks Jacque > On 14 Oct 2023, at 5:16 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > The certificate is locked to a particular machine. You can either export it > from Keychain or create a new one. To create the certificate, the Mac must > submit a signing request,

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/14/2023 12:52 AM, Mark Smith wrote: Paul, just so I understand this problem better. Is there a reason why you can’t just download your certificates from the Apple Developer site to your MacBook Air? Do they specifically restrict downloading to only certain devices? If you download from

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
The certificate is locked to a particular machine. You can either export it from Keychain or create a new one. To create the certificate, the Mac must submit a signing request, which I assume identifies the machine. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Re: The problem was getting my Apple code signing certificates AND related certificates on to the MacBook air from the Apple Developer site, something I don't think Livecode can really help with. Paul, just so I understand this problem better. Is there a reason why you can’t just download your

RE: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Don't know why I didn't see Richard's post in my email, but +1 too. Bob S -Original Message- From: use-livecode On Behalf Of Klaus major-k via use-livecode Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 10:53 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Klaus major-k Subject: Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/13/23 12:46 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: If pro devs with decades of experience struggle with this, newcomers will run screaming. I agree. But as a "pro" dev I'm embarrassed to admit that the problem I was having was of my own doing. Matthias' Helper tool is invaluable

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I'd love to see versions of Livecode stacks that assist with code signing and notarization for as many platforms as possible (I am aware of stacks for Windows and macOS) built into Livecode. That said, for my two major problems (1 on macOS and 1 on Windows), I don't think there is anything

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
+1 I obviously agree!I finally got my Mac app uploaded to the Mac Store (and approved)… but what a pain!!! There are SO many steps that could easily be done by LiveCode that they have chosen to omit. Simple things like generating the .ipa for iOS (this is a simple command line), having

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
100% the biggest problem I have in my business. Have been stuck on iOS for months. Android and Windows is kind of OK, but still more can be done. Agree. Would pay for a solution that just works. On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 3:00 PM Mark Smith via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
+1, I totally agree this is really important (and really hard to keep up with). But Apple should take some of the responsibility for this. With the resources at their disposal they should be able to create a simpler and easier way to execute deployment without sacrificing security and

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
I second (3rd and 4th too) Richard's plea. Deployment is a killer. Bill William A. Prothero, PhD Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science University of California, Santa Barbara > On Oct 13, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > We see it here in this list. We see it in

Re: All Versions of LC crashing in Sonoma

2023-10-13 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Yes that is definitely the case. But Bill asked if Apple will "fix that in Sonoma" so his old standalones will still work under Sonoma without building them again with 9.6.10 or 10.0.6. At least that was my understanding. ;) > Am 13.10.2023 um 18:32 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > :

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Bravo, Richard, you are so right, bravo! > Am 13.10.2023 um 19:46 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > : > > We see it here in this list. We see it in the forums. We see it wherever app > deployment is discussed: > OS requirements for packaging/stapling/signing apps are onerous. > At the

Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
We see it here in this list. We see it in the forums. We see it wherever app deployment is discussed: OS requirements for packaging/stapling/signing apps are onerous. At the edge of, and sometimes exceeding, being prohibitively so. There's no point in making a standalone if you can't ship it.

RE: All Versions of LC crashing in Sonoma

2023-10-13 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Heather, just to be clear, I was under the implression that 9.6.10 and 10.0.6 WAS the fix for this. Bob S -Original Message- From: use-livecode On Behalf Of Heather Laine via use-livecode Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 1:37 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Heather Laine Subject: Re:

Re: Android: Myapp stopped

2023-10-13 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Jaqcue, > Am 13.10.2023 um 18:24 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > : > > Yes, it seems like the bug was fixed in later versions. ah, thank you, I guessed. So bad news for our guitarplayer/singer... > There are some workarounds in the stackoverflow link using terminal but I >

Re: Android: Myapp stopped

2023-10-13 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Yes, it seems like the bug was fixed in later versions. There are some workarounds in the stackoverflow link using terminal but I didn't understand them. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On October 13, 2023 10:51:26 AM

Re: Android: Myapp stopped

2023-10-13 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Jacque, > Am 13.10.2023 um 17:41 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > : > > I looked it up. It's a Samsung bug: > > If you Google "Could not set capabilities:

Re: Android: Myapp stopped

2023-10-13 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I looked it up. It's a Samsung bug: If you Google "Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted " you'll see lots of results. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: Questions on Wasm export, licenses and file siz

2023-10-13 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Lets take the following scenario: 1) We have a library of interactive components created in Livecode. They are structured as (Levure) components. They could be turned into script components easily, or LCB based components with a little more work. 2) We wish to compose a series of apps based on

Re: Android: Myapp stopped

2023-10-13 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Jacque, > Am 12.10.2023 um 22:37 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > : > > What minimum Android version is set in Standalone Settings? Does it include > Android 6? it is set to 5, so yes, it should include version 6. > On 10/12/23 8:35 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: >> Hi

Re: All Versions of LC crashing in Sonoma

2023-10-13 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
I don't think you can hope for that. It's not a bug, its a change in the way they are implementing menus. Best Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com > On 12 Oct 2023, at 18:10, Bill Vlahos wrote: > > Heather, > > Do you think Apple will

Re: Android: Myapp stopped

2023-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
What minimum Android version is set in Standalone Settings? Does it include Android 6? On 10/12/23 8:35 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Hi friends, I am trying to install my app on the tablets of my bandmembers and succeeded on all but one!? Info: Samsung Galaxy Tab S Android

Re: Questions on Wasm export, licenses and file siz

2023-10-12 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Hi Richard specifically I need to know if I create an web page with multiple HTML5 export embeds whether the Livecode wasm approach forces the engine to be exported multiple times. On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 17:09, ambassador--- via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > David

Re: All Versions of LC crashing in Sonoma

2023-10-12 Thread Bill Vlahos via use-livecode
Heather, Do you think Apple will address this issue in an update to Sonoma? Rebuilding all my applications will be difficult. Thank you, Bill Vlahos > On Oct 3, 2023, at 6:56 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Matthias, > > I think ANY menu will cause a crash. |f your app

RE: Windows Standalone strands windows tasks

2023-10-12 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Thanks I'll give that a try. I think I am already quitting the splash stack, because my MacOS works properly, but the second part I never knew about. Unfortunately my Apple laptop is in the shop so I won't be able to test until Monday. Bob S -Original Message- From: use-livecode On

RE: Questions on Wasm export, licenses and file siz

2023-10-12 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: "JS is the only interactive language included in browsers. The best time to learn it was yesterday. The second best time is today." +1 My today was about 5 years ago. JS has been an asset to my workflow ever since. Being able get JS callbacks and invoke JS from

Re: Windows Standalone strands windows tasks

2023-10-12 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Bob, > Am 12.10.2023 um 17:36 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > : > > Hi all. > > I have a standalone that uses a splash stack, which upon launch displays a > startup graphic, then hides itself and opens the mainstack of my project. On > MacOS when I "quit" the entire application

Re: Questions on Wasm export, licenses and file siz

2023-10-12 Thread ambassador--- via use-livecode
David Bovill wrote: > With the old JavaScript export you had a separation between the engine > and stacks such that you could cache the engine part in the browser to > speed up the loading of the much smaller stacks. Is that the case (or > it is intended to be the case in the future) with the wasm

Windows Standalone strands windows tasks

2023-10-12 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi all. I have a standalone that uses a splash stack, which upon launch displays a startup graphic, then hides itself and opens the mainstack of my project. On MacOS when I "quit" the entire application quits. On Windows however the splash stack (which is the stack the standalone is built

Re: Android: Myapp stopped

2023-10-12 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
> Am 12.10.2023 um 15:43 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode > : > > Hm, > just a shot in the dark, did you enable the Development mode on the tablets? sure! A propos dark: At midnight on a graveyard I tapped SEVEN times on the buildnumber, that should have done the trick, right! :-D

Re: Android: Myapp stopped

2023-10-12 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Hm, just a shot in the dark, did you enable the Development mode on the tablets? > Am 12.10.2023 um 15:35 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode > : > > Hi friends, > > I am trying to install my app on the tablets of my bandmembers > and succeeded on all but one!? > > Info: > Samsung

Android: Myapp stopped

2023-10-12 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi friends, I am trying to install my app on the tablets of my bandmembers and succeeded on all but one!? Info: Samsung Galaxy Tab S Android 6.0.1, API 23 After installation from LC (Test) I tap on the icon and get the alert: -> Leadsheeter stopped (angehalten) immediately, no more info. I

Questions on Wasm export, licenses and file size

2023-10-12 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
I know that HTML5 export is not quite ready yet - but I’m a patient man :) I would like to know how it works / will work - particularly with regard to the size of the exports. With the old JavaScript export you had a separation between the engine and stacks such that you could cache the engine

RE: How rawKeyUp is handled

2023-10-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Okay, belay my last. Something else is preventing the key from entering the field. I just tested it in new stack with a new field. Bob S -Original Message- From: use-livecode On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:59 PM To: How to use LiveCode

How rawKeyUp is handled

2023-10-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi all. I just found a strange oddity where on MacOS when I type a keyboard key in a field with a rawKeyUp handler, the letter is typed first, then the field gets the rawKeyUp message. This allows me to check the contents of the field for empty in case the user hit the backspace key to erase

Re: AW: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-11 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/10/2023 8:23 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Hello all, Just downloading the certificate from your account in the apple dev website, and using it in a different machine from the one it was created will not work (you get identity not found), because you need the private key

Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

2023-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
"a few weeks" was also last october, then november, then last december. i get it, i'm starting to sound like one of the grumpy old guys. i'm also one who threw down for an html5 license (waiting for it to be usable), and paid for a compiler license, what, eleven months ago? i used to dismiss all

Re: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-11 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Panos, > Am 11.10.2023 um 02:23 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > : > > Hello all, > > Just downloading the certificate from your account in the apple dev > website, and using it in a different machine from the one it was created > will not work (you get identity not found),

Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

2023-10-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/11/23 10:28 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: However, the development process would need an interface that works in a well documented, straightforward way Right. I tried LC Create for a few days but without documentation I didn't get very far. I couldn't figure out what

Re: AW: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/10/23 7:23 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Just downloading the certificate from your account in the apple dev website, and using it in a different machine from the one it was created will not work (you get identity not found), I wish the error message would be more

Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

2023-10-11 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
On October 7th 2022, Kevin said that there would be a preview of the script compiler in the next few weeks. Thats the last update I found in the blog. Software is hard, and we all miss deadlines, but an update would be good. I tried to reach out to Mark W to get an update, but received no

Re: Compiling for iOS : something wrong with Xcode and Sonoma

2023-10-11 Thread Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode
> Le 10 oct. 2023 à 19:14, Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode > a écrit : > > Hello, > > Is livecode uptodate is compatible with Sonoma ? > When I try to compile for iOS I get this error : > > There was an error while saving the standalone application linking for arm > (arm64) failed with

Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

2023-10-11 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Just my take, I'm just currently using livecode to write personal software. The various issues related to the app store and compatibility with other platforms are not something I have time or energy for. I'm retired and like to work on fun, rewarding projects, not frustrating searches for the

Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

2023-10-11 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
I am afraid the whole power is put into the Web platform. And i am not sure how i should feel about it. > Am 11.10.2023 um 15:21 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode > : > > it's october. do you know where the script compiler and usable html5 are? > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 12:10 PM Ben

Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

2023-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
it's october. do you know where the script compiler and usable html5 are? On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 12:10 PM Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Sad update: it's just happened to me again, with Bracket Completion > switched > off. I literally checked just

Re: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-11 Thread Mark Clark via use-livecode
I haven't tried the API/web service for notarizing apps. But there appears to be a way and it might be simpler in the long run. Still need the (right) keys:) https://developer.apple.com/documentation/notaryapi/submitting_software_for_notarization_over_the_web On Oct 10, 2023, at 5:07 PM, J.

Re: Window code signing certificate source recommendations

2023-10-11 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/10/2023 9:56 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Paul, just googled a little bit... If you have a safenet USB Token, than there seems to be a way to disable the password pop up. https://www.finalbuilder.com/resources/blogs/code-signing-with-usb-tokens Thank you for this! We

Re: Window code signing certificate source recommendations

2023-10-11 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Programming is just not fun any more. Being creative is now just completely overwhelmed by ... whatever this is... just to get the thing on the air so people won't hack or steal. *Security* is a job we need AI to handle, not to replace our own creativity in the app itself. sqb -- Stephen

Re: AW: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-10 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello all, Just downloading the certificate from your account in the apple dev website, and using it in a different machine from the one it was created will not work (you get identity not found), because you need the private key as well. This is why you have to export the certificate from the

Re: AW: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/10/23 4:16 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: The hardest part was getting the correct Certificates into the Keychain on the macBook Air. When code signing I kept getting an "identity not found" (or something like that) that meant I didn't have the "right" certificate or the

AW: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Under macOS 14.0 Sonoma on a M1 macBook Air,  I have set up the Command Line Tools for XCode 15.0 and have successfully signed, notarized, and stapled a Livecode Standalone using the new Apple notarization command that goes into effect on November 1, 2023 Effect 1-NOV-2023, the notarization

Re: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-10 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Paul, you should be able to download and "install" the Apple certificates directly in Xcode. To do so, open settings in Xcode and select "accounts" icon. There you should see a window which allows you to manage your certificates which also includes to install them. Matthias > Am 10.10.2023

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-10 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode
jacqui juggled, So then I tried notarizationHelper V4 but keep getting "no identity found" errors. Ah. An identity crisis! :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/10/23 2:19 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Hello Jacque, didn't you get the reason back why the app is rejected when you run 'spctl --assess --raw --verbose ' ? No, all I got was what I posted. It was very short. I am not sure why your app i rejected. If you want to, i

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/10/23 1:07 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Have you included any entitlements when codesigning the app? I suggest including all of these: https://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/1293515-entitlements-for-signed-and-notarized-apps There is an option to do that in the settings

Re: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/10/2023 12:36 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I got that far at least. I couldn't notarize on Monterey but my client on Sonoma had no problem using mrSignNotarizeHelper on Sonoma with Xcode 15. My issues happened after that. So I think you're safe using the tool on Sonoma.

Re: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I got that far at least. I couldn't notarize on Monterey but my client on Sonoma had no problem using mrSignNotarizeHelper on Sonoma with Xcode 15. My issues happened after that. So I think you're safe using the tool on Sonoma. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive

Re: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/10/2023 11:43 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: I am looking at https://developer.apple.com/support/xcode To meet Apple's Nov 1 deadline of switch from the old Notarization tool (which I current use on Mojave) to the new one, I need to get set up on macOS 14 Sonoma. To me, from

Re: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-10 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
There’s this: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204904 I’m fairly certain that it will install the most recent version of MacOS however. To install the original MacOS, there’s this: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/erase-and-reinstall-macos-mh27903/mac Bob S > On Oct 10, 2023, at

Re: Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-10 Thread Marty Knapp via use-livecode
I’ve been using AppWrapper for a few years and just deployed an upgrade for Sonoma compatibility. I don’t use the app store - just sell from my own web site. It’s a paid app but has a free trial: https://ohanaware.com/appwrapper/ --- Marty Knapp > On Oct 10, 2023, at 8:43 AM, Paul Dupuis via

Another (macOS) Code signing guidance question...

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I am looking at https://developer.apple.com/support/xcode To meet Apple's Nov 1 deadline of switch from the old Notarization tool (which I current use on Mojave) to the new one, I need to get set up on macOS 14 Sonoma. To me, from the Apple page, it look like I need xcode 15 (deployment

Re: Window code signing certificate source recommendations

2023-10-10 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Paul, just googled a little bit... If you have a safenet USB Token, than there seems to be a way to disable the password pop up. https://www.finalbuilder.com/resources/blogs/code-signing-with-usb-tokens > Am 10.10.2023 um 15:05 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode > : > > On 10/10/2023 8:53

Re: Window code signing certificate source recommendations

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/10/2023 8:53 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Hello Paul, unfortunately this is the "new" standard. Since 1st June 2023 private keys has to be stored on a Token. https://www.sslpoint.com/new-private-key-storage-requirement-for-standard-code-signing-certificates/ There is no

Re: Window code signing certificate source recommendations

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/10/2023 8:38 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: While not directly applicable, you may be able script it similar to using a CAC. DOD uses Smart Cards for authentication and you can have command line tools use the card for authentication (runas /smartcard program). What happens is

Re: Window code signing certificate source recommendations

2023-10-10 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Hello Paul, unfortunately this is the "new" standard. Since 1st June 2023 private keys has to be stored on a Token. https://www.sslpoint.com/new-private-key-storage-requirement-for-standard-code-signing-certificates/ There is no way anymore to export a certificate for example to .pfx. And much

Re: Window code signing certificate source recommendations

2023-10-10 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
While not directly applicable, you may be able script it similar to using a CAC. DOD uses Smart Cards for authentication and you can have command line tools use the card for authentication (runas /smartcard program). What happens is that you get a pop up from the system to choose cert and

Window code signing certificate source recommendations

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
To any with a recommendation: I have been getting my Windows Code Signing Certificates from Comodo. I have been able to get certs in file formats like .pfx or .p12 that allows me to code sign using a single command line with the password as part of the command. This lets me script code

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-10 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Hello Jacque, didn't you get the reason back why the app is rejected when you run 'spctl --assess --raw --verbose ' ? I've tested here now with a simple LC app which opens an https url. The https call makes sure, that revsecurity is included in the app bundle. I've code signed and notarized

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-10 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello Jacque, Have you included any entitlements when codesigning the app? I suggest including all of these: https://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/1293515-entitlements-for-signed-and-notarized-apps There is an option to do that in the settings (iirc) in Matthias' notarization tool. Kind

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Thank you, I'll try that. Meanwhile, I ran this on a supposedly notarized/signed app: spctl --assess --raw --verbose which was rejected. Does his mean anything to anyone: "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd;> assessment:authority

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-09 Thread Timothy Bleiler via use-livecode
I think this is the most recent lesson listing the terminal commands for using NotaryTool instead of altool. These worked when I was using the last version of Ventura and Xcode 14.3.1. I haven’t tried Sonoma.

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/9/23 7:33 PM, Mark Clark wrote: Is Gatekeeper an issue? Using dynamic libs? If your end user/tester could open console and send you the errors it might help point you in the right direction. Successfully notarized app rejecte… | Apple Developer Forums

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/9/23 5:13 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 10/9/23 4:46 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I'm using Matthias' mrSignNotarizeHelper V3.1 with xCode 13.2.1 on Mac OS 12.6.9 (Monterey) but get a script error. The same thing happens in both LC 9.6.9 and 9.6.10 dp 6. So

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-09 Thread Timothy Bleiler via use-livecode
Jacqueline, I had a similar problem recently. There were a couple of problems I had to fix. My error occurred during the notarization step after code signing. One problem was that somehow my Mac was NOT a trusted device for the Apple ID I was using for development. Verify that your Apple ID

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-09 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/9/2023 5:46 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I'm using Matthias' mrSignNotarizeHelper V3.1 with xCode 13.2.1 on Mac OS 12.6.9 (Monterey) but get a script error. The same thing happens in both LC 9.6.9 and 9.6.10 dp 6. So then I tried notarizationHelper V4 but keep getting "no

Re: Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/9/23 4:46 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I'm using Matthias' mrSignNotarizeHelper V3.1 with xCode 13.2.1 on Mac OS 12.6.9 (Monterey) but get a script error. The same thing happens in both LC 9.6.9 and 9.6.10 dp 6. So then I tried notarizationHelper V4 but keep getting "no

Can't codesign Mac app

2023-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I'm using Matthias' mrSignNotarizeHelper V3.1 with xCode 13.2.1 on Mac OS 12.6.9 (Monterey) but get a script error. The same thing happens in both LC 9.6.9 and 9.6.10 dp 6. So then I tried notarizationHelper V4 but keep getting "no identity found" errors. I've tried all the suggestions in the

Re: I give up! Mac App Installer Hell

2023-10-09 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ios is much more straightforward than it was, even a couple of years ago. i would call it "nearly painless", now. mac...sorry, no do. On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:39 AM Mark Smith via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > Which store are you intending to submit to: Mac

Re: I give up! Mac App Installer Hell

2023-10-09 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Hi Dan, Which store are you intending to submit to: Mac App or iOS App? I’ve done it to iOS a half dozen times (although the last time was probably more than a year ago) I could probably scrounge something useful together. I’ve only created installer packages for the Mac App Store (using Kee

Re: I give up! Mac App Installer Hell

2023-10-06 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
I’m totally with you, Dan, but even though I’ve done it before as well. I have no idea what I did. I’ve given up trying to develop apps for iOS and stopped my Apple Developer subscription out of this frustration. Good luck! Somebody save us all!! Why can’t LC do this for us? Maybe ChatGPT??

Re: I give up! Mac App Installer Hell

2023-10-06 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
I'm afraid I can't help - wish I could. But I have to say that "... tried the (out of date) LC Lesions," must be the best auto-correct failure this week. Alex. On 06/10/2023 23:44, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote: If you have a very, very, VERY good understanding of creating Mac

I give up! Mac App Installer Hell

2023-10-06 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
If you have a very, very, VERY good understanding of creating Mac installer files to be posted to a website for user install, and to submit to the Mac App Store, I would like to pay you to walk me through all this - step by step. I can’t take any of more this crap! Certificates, Identifiers,

AW: LC 9.6.10 standalone with Pallette issues under Sonoma

2023-10-06 Thread ambassador--- via use-livecode
Paul Dupuis wrote: >> We're just in the middle of testing, but we're seeing some issues >> where the contents of a palette window are not rendering (just an >> empty window) in a Livecode 9.6.10 standalone under macOS Sonoma. >> >> Anyone else see anything like this? > > Okay, this was all a false

AW: LC 9.6.10 standalone with Pallette issues under Sonoma

2023-10-05 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/4/2023 5:12 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: We're just in the middle of testing, but we're seeing some issues where the contents of a palette window are not rendering (just an empty window) in a Livecode 9.6.10 standalone under macOS Sonoma. Anyone else see anything like this?

Re: All Versions of LC crashing in Sonoma

2023-10-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I think it refers to the belly rub emoji. (Rub Icon? Anyone?? never mind.) Bob S > On Oct 3, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Jim Lambert via use-livecode > wrote: > >> Bob wrote: >> >> So for those upgrading to Sonoma, 9.6.10 and 10 dp6 are now a rubicon of >> sorts. There?s no going back. (I just

Re: LC 9.6.10 standalone with Pallette issues under Sonoma

2023-10-04 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/4/2023 5:12 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: We're just in the middle of testing, but we're seeing some issues where the contents of a palette window are not rendering (just an empty window) in a Livecode 9.6.10 standalone under macOS Sonoma. Anyone else see anything like this?

LC 9.6.10 standalone with Pallette issues under Sonoma

2023-10-04 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
We're just in the middle of testing, but we're seeing some issues where the contents of a palette window are not rendering (just an empty window) in a Livecode 9.6.10 standalone under macOS Sonoma. Anyone else see anything like this? ___

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