Graham Samual wrote:
But (and there certainly is a ‘but’) there is a danger that the whole LC
environment might move away from the very powerful “everyone can code” ideal.
It may be simply that this list is preoccupying itself with more arcane stuff
that’s outside the comfort zone of most
@ Bob:
Right: not meant to criticize, but hopefully constructive observation about a
specific issue… that's how we evolve, right?
"just sayin" that to the eyes of the user (as Quentin said) a widget is a
visual object/control on screen, like any other, the expectation that they can
enter
You are not wrong.
SVG *is* an image and ideally, should behave like any graphic object.
Also, for the sake of LC future: These are the kind of things that make newbies
"run away" from the product.. because they expect things to work, but they
don't, the frustration level can be severe an
Atom is nice, true, but I had a license for ST2 from 2014 and it worked! plus
"multiple cursors" and related multi-line handling is awesome, I not seeing
that in
Atom (maybe there is a package for that…) but, keep us posted on a syntax
package updates.
On 2/28/17, 4:18 AM, "use-livecode
Thanks for the thorough reply Trevor.
I left Sublime Text when it was "2" years ago…thinking it was an EOL'd tool but
here you say "Sublime Text 3"
Oh… sweet, my Sublime Text 2 license works!
OK I'll try it..since Atom and Visual Studio still don't quite gel for my work
flow…
On 2/23/17,
My longest running in house production app is an audio transcriber. Very
successful little gadget, running in xTalk since 2001
We have over 1,000 XML files from an audio archive of transcripts.
Now I'm digging in and getting the data out.
I'm not facile with xml routines but did my best with
@ Bob (who wrote)
" Do you suggest that all development and improvement for version 8 and that
we all wait for certain bugs to be addressed in the next major release? That
would be unfortunate. Already since the earlier versions of 8, there have been
marked improvements and bug fixes, such
HH wrote:
Yes, you are right, the handler only opens the enclosing folder
(or any path item of such a folder path).
Actually that's my main use case…
But now we have all options… thanks to all.
nice to find that I can use launch for both Windows and Mac
But has to have a slash on the
I'm behind here in the overview:
Why even continue in 8.* ?
What issues are there with 9.* that would make it advisable not to try it for
production?
BR
On 2/23/17, 10:41 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of panagiotis merakos via
use-livecode"
er on Windows?
tks
On 2/22/17, 4:59 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via
use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
OK I studied the doc here:
https://support.microsoft.com/
OK I studied the doc here:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/130510/command-line-switches-for-windows-explorer
and actually the use cases are more often to open a folder
but I don't have windows to test
does this work to open a folder window on Win32?
get shell (”explorer.exe
going a bit OT here… I've dabbled withj Atom, Visual Studio and also long time
ago Sublime… any reason you prefer Sublime?
I still keep dropping out back to BBEdit.. but if I could find a nother editor
that had comparable tools I would use it. So far, atom and Visual Studio keep
falling short…
Thanks Roger!
On 2/22/17, 1:54 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Roger Eller via use-livecode"
wrote:
get shell (”explorer.exe /select,c:\windows\system32\selected_file.txt")
Source:
for in house production tools I use an apples script or shell script to reveal
a file in the finder
how do we do this on windows?
BR
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select three fields
enter in msg box:
set the margins of the selectedObjects to 10,10,10,10
Expected: margins of all three fields should change
observed: only the first one registers a change in margins
the other two do not.
Is this a bug?
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@ Jacque: I don't think it is ram after all.
FYI: on my Nexus 5 I have 1.8 GB RAM and our new app + All of Googles "widgets"
that come preloaded take up a mere .8 GB and I have a full GB of RAM free.
after proceeding (as we discussed off list with our team) to delete stacks when
we move from
equirement, but crashes in Android every time…
I have a report in to HQ…
On 2/11/17, 8:38 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via
use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
I'm trying to opti
I'm trying to optimize for minimal RAM usage on mobile. The app is modular with
many stacks that are opened from the mainstack.
I had this before in a global library:
command portal_GoStack stackName
-- goes to the new stack
-- closes the current stack # But we want to delete it to clear RAM
--
When we delete a main stack, the main stack and all its substacks are removed
from memory.
But if we delete a stack that has behaviors set from external
*_behavior.livecodescript stacks for controls in the "main" (parent?) stack,
those behaviors are still in memory.
Does it make sense to
Are you serving this content yourself from your web server? If so there are
"cb" (cache busting) methods already well worked out.
e.g.
logo.jpg # on disk
logo-cb123455678.jpg # in the html code
and mod-rewrite handles the translation back to the original image. So you can
update "logo.jpg"
@ Scott:
That's not what I get if I open this image in Photoshop. (CC 2017)
575 X 1000
http://wiki.hindu.org/uploads/img37.jpg
It is a JPEG, but under the mode menu it shows "RGB/8 Bit" and if I look under
indexed colors it says "256" definitely not 16bit (in which case we should see
I'm trying to optimize for Mobile. Photoshop is playing tricks on me
given a 38K jpg;
rect 3 X 5
552px w
736 px h
72 dpi (irrelevant for screen)
Open in Photoshop: it indicates 1.16M in RAM, but mode is 8 bit… but
but the online calculation sites for file size for that rect/bit-depth should
[moved to a new thread]
Sample stacks are probably the way to go… with some lightweight "guide on how
to hink about it. Like Trevor wrote "slice up your UI into rectangle and
groups… go from there."
Richard wrote:
> A lot of the "flak" I hear about using LC is "but it's not
> responsive, at
Thank you all!
FYI tmpanel.rev crashes 8.1.3 (at least here on Sierra)
On 2/4/17, 11:23 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of AndyP via use-livecode"
wrote:
Nice addition .. thanks.
-
@ trevor: OK, understood. In fact we are doing a similar/ almost same thing
though calling it "SivaSiva.json" which is read on start up,
re the stack files for the components: interesting…
We have been adding *all* behaviors for all modules in the main stack, since
many of these are reused
right, you will not be the first one to change file on his own machine think
it would magically appear in his browser.
time for either a nap or a swim.
and "duh" here too… seems the 360 pano in native LC has been a long running
topic on the forums already since 2007
In line
On 2/5/17, 3:41 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Trevor DeVore via use-livecode"
wrote:
With Levure adding stack files won't cause any conflicts. Each stack
is an independent file and the file that
On 2/5/17, 12:08 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Mike Bonner via use-livecode"
wrote:
Thx for the info. Honestly, all I want is for the example in the
dictionary to work for me. (and yes, the javascript
John: Ditto what Bill said…that, keep us all posted! Possibly get a thread
going on the multi-media are of the forums?
William Prothero:
John, this is a very cool project. I hope you get it working. I’d love to
be able to use your VR framework. One of my colleagues created a VR
Actually you can get it here:
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/817/LC-to-JS-Data-Transfer
On 2/5/17, 10:28 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via
use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wro
FYI Mike,
Getting those params over to LC is doable… Jonathan wrote me off line.. I will
email you a small stack he created that works and perhaps will suffice for your
needs.
But, beware, you may head into this thinking "Wow, this is so cool. We could do
a lot with this." Hold your horses,
Ali, thanks for chiming in… in the current app we stayed away from any
resizing, the Design passed down from our team which has years of experience in
print graphics (but zero in digital UX/UI) would have been a challenge to get
responsive. It could be done of course, anything can be done in
Trevor, thanks for that intro to the new tools in LC9
I'm already using libraries and behaviors extensively, but still find my self
build LC stack binaries with a full stack script or, quite often, 95% of the
code in the card script (if the UI can all be done on a single card)
The other day
There is a near universal behavior on mobile, varying flavors of color and
style but the UX is almost the same everywhere whether it is your contacts,
book marks in Safari, or songs on play lists in Spotify.
you have a list like this, after each item the common icon is often 2
horizontal bars,
Peter: FYI multi-dimensional arrays are awesome. I use to be "scared" of them,
but in RevIgniter we have all kinds of things like
galleriaShow["options"]["width"]["805]
and even more… so I had go understand it.
And, on top of this you can have an array "inside" a key/value (where the
value
Ralph
Thanks, hacking the pList definitely works!
I guess Apple doesn't care, right?
On 1/30/17, 10:18 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode"
wrote:
JLM, Thanks for the
Hmm, interesting
try this
http://wiki.hindu.org/uploads/SivaSivaDiagram.svg # in firefox; chrome; LC
browser widget
result:
Firefox renders the gradients.
Chrome and the LC browser widget render some place holder in the same space.
On 1/29/17, 11:41 AM, "BNig via use-livecode"
Use case is: multiple apps and the local mobile browser, all in a navigable
ecosystem on small devices.
on iOS, you can make an app that does this
1) Open to home screen
2) go to card "Virtual Tours"
3) click on "Gardens"
4) go to another card name "gardens" (just an example)
5) click a button
to SKIA (nor do I
really know the scope of what that means in terms of future possibilities)
I'll do a small test loading these into a browser widget..
On 1/29/17, 11:41 AM, "BNig via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
wrote:
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote
@ Richard.
OK, one more SVG example (I believe that's what you were asking for)
now you have three
http://wiki.hindu.org/uploads/floor-plan.svg # not responsive, but could be
http://wiki.hindu.org/uploads/SivaSivaDiagram.svg
# not responsive, but could be (though that's not wanted in this
as mentioned… it's not responsive, that was just a quick export, would require
some tweaking.
and the use case envisioned for larger ones is different: use pinch and zoom
and swipe to move around and go in on the "map", this means we actually do not
want it to scale down to fit….
On
I forget to give the URL for a complete web app that I was able to put into a
LC browser widget (too heavy for delivery becuase of all the audio content,
but good proof of concept for using the brower widget to drive local html5
content in the same package:
oops sorry, I was trying to make is responsive and broke something
try this now
http://wiki.hindu.org/uploads/SivaSivaDiagram.svg
On 1/29/17, 8:14 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Richmond Mathewson via
use-livecode"
thanks for these tips… I will try again.
Svasti Astu, Be Well
Brahmanathaswami
www.himalayanacademy.com
On 1/28/17, 6:20 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of hh via use-livecode"
wrote:
It's not the LC
in via use-livecode"
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote:
> So as not to burden this list which "use" list and not a "complain"
> list I have responded to you at length directly.
...ands yet here we are, so we
Sure.. try this:
go stack url "http://wiki.hindu.org/uploads/SivasHawaiiRevels_v001.livecode;
it's so "bad" as it is "just below par" enough to cause others to blink at it.
I realize this seems like a challenge but take my word for it. Here in our
shop we have several Keynote presentation
found it!
mobileHideStatusBar
mobileShowStatusBar
Now I just need to "slide" everything (the entire card/content) down…
tks
On 1/27/17, 10:19 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay via
use-livecode"
So as not to burden this list which "use" list and not a "complain" list I
have responded to you at length directly.
in a word:
1) the graphics rendering layer of LC is behind the graphics rendering layer of
the browser
2) an IDE that provides a tool box for super elegant 21st century UI
Richard Gaskin wrote:
/Documentation/resources/data/api/api.sqlite
Oh boy, gonna have fun with that!
BR
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How many devs here would be willing to pitch in $ to cover the cost for HQ to
add "deep integration" between the browser widget and Livecode.
Currently there is a "wall" between LC and the browser widget. Jonathan Lynch,
myself and Andre have been looking into this very closely. There is no way
FWIW:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19145
On 1/27/17, 4:46 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of panagiotis merakos via
use-livecode" wrote:
Hi guys,
Thanks for spending time on this.
Ooops sorry I should have added that.
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19120
copy of my stack is there, nothing proprietary in it… it does not do any front
scripts.
but there is definitely something in it that 8.1.3 does not like (and also
lcStackBrowser was unhappy with this
I'm game to play with this… I need it
where are these array files?
Do we want to change the thread subject to "Dictionary Improvements"
On 1/27/17, 6:55 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Richard Gaskin via
use-livecode"
Do we have control over the layer of the native device top status status bar?
is it always on topmost layer? if so then we have to dynamically hide and show
it if we want to occupy the whole screen
OR
is it always on the background layer
if so then we simply have some objects on higher top
I have a bug report on this but HQ says they cannot replicate it.
Today I think I have a definitive recipe. Can you try and confirm?
Symptom:
the "e" at the beginning of the last line end of handlers is getting chopped off
on closeStack
if the environment is "mobile" then
scroller_Delete
Ha! Klaus.. Jai Ganesha! Awesome this works (yet to test on mobile)
on mouseUp
set the effectrate to 500
lock screen for visual effect
put the long Id of image "stone" into pHiddenImage
put the long Id of image "night" into pVisibleImage
show tHiddenImage
hide
Others can please chime in here… I'm not sure exactly why the new dictionary is
"irritating" but it is.
let's say I want to see all the properties for buttons. I think the old
dictionary gave us that option.
Now if I click on "association "button" and click type "properties" I get the
Turns out it was one of my plug ins… you can see the bug report where the
problem was attributed to the DataGrid Helper… but I don't use the DGH and I
had problems with an old old stack I've had for 15 years called
"Favorites.livecode" build circa 2000 or earlier and migrating forward over
I'm looking to "dress" up our new app with more elegant visuals.
I was using send in time to a handle that changes the blendlevel of small
objects… this works well and is none blocking.
But someone asked "Why don't you just use dissolve?"
Duh.. the dictionary doesn't give the platforms that
Thank. Yes.. it is there in the dictionary but I glossed over it somehow. Not
sure the new dictionary is an improvement of the one we had all these years…
@Bernd: is your dictionary plug in working in the latest 8+ versions of LC?
On 1/24/17, 5:04 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Phil Davis
Edit;
get a grip on creating custom visual effect that I can use "all over the place"
by creating an external script/text stack
-
Exactly
I'm studying scripts by some "pros" (Jacque, David, Malte-animation engine)
in order to get a group on creating custom
Exactly
I'm studying scripts by some "pros" (Jacque, David, Malte-animation engine)
in order to get a group on creating custom visual effect that I can use "all
over the place" but creating an external script/text stack
I've been doing server side script for so many years, the whole UI coding
ha! duh! I need to go body surfing for a day and get away from the code
… I'm "losing it"
Put "hello" into tTargetField# replace the long id in the var with "hello"
sheesh…
this get set prop thing has a lot of power, one day I'll wrap my head around it.
On 1/24/17, 12:57 PM,
how do you remove a key from an array?
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I have scripts supplied by others, that seem to work where the long id of an
object is stored in a variable and then you can refer to that object with a
single var-name
But I can't get this to work
put the long id of fld "daily-lesson-text" into tTargetField
put "Hello" into tTargetField
what
I need the updates in 8.1.3 (RC1) so took the leap.
IDE is problematic… deleted my prefs before opening… but now
-- the point ertool icon does not change from browse to pointer…
-- switching to the pointer too and double clicking on a button runs the button
script instead of just selecting the
I have *.html files that were extracted from epub documents.
At our instruction, the company preparing these epubs was requested to use
Unicode throughout and avoid all ANSI chars (i.e. us the Unicode for mdash and
not — from the mac keyboard)
If I drop these on any browser they are perfectly
I'm trying to understand some code done for us that was not documented.
We are using a lot of text only *.livecodescripts and working with a frame
work that is more of an MVC model where we try to keep our binary stacks as
free of code as possible i.e. they serve as views and then we call
But I found this in a script from an associate:
setprop portal_RowNames [headerName] rowNames
and it compiles… the first param is a variable inside square braces.
Not sure it this is some LC magic or just this programmer's "style"
-
Bob S: That can only be an element of an array.
@ pass by reference
Wow! I'm only now learning about this? ….sheesh, this would have solved so many
issues I faced in the past!
and now pass arrays too. Fantastic.
@ Richard: yes "wrap" was the wrong way to state this… "call a function with
dispatch" is was I should have said
BR
PS there is
for the documentarians among us.
Sometimes you want to do a "remote" call to a function and get data back. At
first this appear no possible
send | dispatch | do | call
BUT: FYI you can wrap a function in Dispatch and the value is returned in the
result.
this is not documented.
We are facing an old bug in various stacks. Some are very old stacks that have
moved forward over time from as far back as 5.* with standalone builder (SAB)
settings revised along the way until we are up to Sierra and LC 8.1.2 where
attempts to make a standalone fail due to an old bug where
Good input… off screen or on top card of open window behind the top stack: GIF
is still running…
Given that we might be instantiating the appearance of these GIFs (icons of
buttons) "here and there and everywhere" via some low level back script or lib
that was brought into the msg path with
if we import an animated gif into a card called "image-resources" which might
be e.g. card 3. with repeat set to -1… i.e it is running continuously…
When are on Card 1… is that GIF still running and taking up CPU cycles even
though it is effectively "hidden" by virtue of being on Card 3?
OR
SFTP var content only?
Wow… Strange strategy… Indy should/could be LC's bread and butter.. a product
that works may be a better strategy in the long run than providing a crippled
option. Reserve business only feature for true enterprise features, not for a
simple options that come with any
t;On Dec 26, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami <bra...@hindu.org>
wrote:
>We need some help.
>We know that we can do SFTP with TS-Net external
>but
>functions that we try to use from an Indy LC return "unlicensed" even
when, the docume
We need some help.
We know that we can do SFTP with TS-Net external
but
functions that we try to use from an Indy LC return "unlicensed" even when, the
documentation make not indication that they should fail without the business
license.
What we need is
Documention on what functions and
Is there an easy way to copy a whole folder (plus sub-folders and files)
recursively from
specialFolderPath("resources") # or "engine" same thing… (right?)
to
specialFolderPath("documents") # writeable
on mobile?
We are getting some pecular behavior on Android where setting the browser
We are looking for tighter integration and interoperability between LC and
HTML5/JS component running in the same stack.
See this stack
go stack url "http://wiki.hindu.org/uploads/browserwidgetjstester.livecode;
What we think we know, assumptions:
1) we can trigger LC commands from javascript
:51 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding"
<use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of mo...@appisle.net> wrote:
>On 14 Dec. 2016, at 2:32 pm, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami <bra...@hindu.org>
wrote:
>BUT the main top level loader stack i
We are working our new mobile app in git hub. The challenge is that we need to
use N number of binary files as "views" and at least one loader stack to run
the build. Even though we have zero code in the stack script and zero code in
the card script (the app is initialized with a behavior for
Create browser widget for mobile app
Set remote URL
Web page appears perfect but you cannot pinch snd zoom the content
Go to same URL on mobile Safari ( iOS ) or Chrome (android) and ypu can pinch
in and out to zoom or shrink content
How do we get broweer Widget to do that also?
.BR
Does anyone have an example of a stack/card with a browser widget that shows
some html content with clickable JS objects that then trigger handlers in the
native LC code in that stacks card or stack script?
i.e. we want to be able to mount some html content aka "widget in a browser
window" in
Peculiar behavior
if I save a stack… after some work… touch the standalone settings… where the
iOS was off before, check it on, choose my profile and build, I will always get
a message that some "arm stuff" cannot be found..
when I run it a second time… it goes through…
This is doubling my
You are right… in fact I had set Andre on this a few years ago and he started
one (robust, complete text/field typesetting layout palette)…
We are using Git for our new app. It would be fun to try a new repo for this
and let everyone hammer on it…
BR
On 12/5/16, 10:39 AM, "use-livecode on
Wow! If you go to the download page there is this awesome little stack
included in the 5.5.0 release called
field_features.livecode
Message to HQ: You need to bring this forward somehow! at just 96 K why don't
you just package it with the other resources and documentation in every distro?
" I wish there were a way to search all the release notes at once."
ditto that!
And it goes back to an older request I had (of course someone will say "you can
build that yourself"
that the IDE should have a very robust text/layout/typsetting palette… so that
newbies coming on board don’t
Our design team here has high expectations for typesetting that are not easily
implemented in LC… or were not before.
But I realize new text styles have been introduced… though I believe thorough
docs/tutorials have not been issued so it is a bit opaque. Where are the new
text style command
yes, more docs would help.
I don't see any "SFTP" upload example, only "FTPS" upload. The later, I
believe, gets into certificates, which I would rather avoid.
On 12/1/16, 8:18 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ben Rubinstein"
I go the promo newsletter, when to HH's site with demos
each on says "download only once"
but every time I swtich to another one… the engine downloads again.
4 minutes in one case, here with pretty good band width. I don't think I could
get anyone to sit/wait through that…
Pretty much a
I don't ever remembers seeing this before:
1) new stack in LC 8.1.2(RC2)
2) create image "imageToResize"
3) make button
on mouseUp
Answer file "choose an image"
set the filename of img "imageToResize" to it
end mouseUp
Result: incoming green values in the JPEG are swapped out for red! what we
Way, way OT: Does anyone know of an image tagging service? Needs to be done by
humans looking at images and entering IPTC data that is embedded into the
image. use case: take 10,000(s) of images/art add tags, description, category.
needs to be embedded in the image itself for full portability
We have an app in development, Yesterday I prepared all the icons and splash
screens. The standalone builder was happy with the size of everyone of them. I
run a build and
1) the logo does not appear on my iPhone 6 Plus: even though we have a good
png at 180 X 180
it is somehow not being
Bernd
Thanks for the patience in clarifying all this.
I think the dictionary could really use some kind of commenting system. What
you are saying here is really important both for future docs as well as
possible changes in the terms used in the IDE. But.. here it is buried deep in
the
Actually I have two long running apps (15 years) working exactly has Richard
describes. Indeed is has so many advantages. I love being on SKYPE with one of
our volunteers who may have a small complaint about the UX or wants to added
something to the back end database… I quicklyl fix it and just
I too never quite understood why the RevWeb Plugin was abandoned. The old issue
that users resist such downloads, never, IMHO, really materialized… just look
at the kJillion extensions for FireFox or Chrome, there is no end in sight.
So the plugin was abandoned, but in the end, hasn't the team
Thanks every one for all the great answers/ideas.
That said,
@Mark… docs may need clarification
1) create 'regular polygon graphic" with 4 sides
2) name it "trapezoid"
3) make button "set the editMode of grc "trapezoid" to polygon
result: nothing happens at all, no change, no option to add
The good news:
Right click on the Polygon then choose 'Reshape Polygon' and the points
that you require should appear. :-)
BR: confirmed.. that works.
Now the bad news:
Sadly this also revealed the ghost trails seen before when you start to
drag the points around. :-(
BR:
I want to be able to draw an adjustable trapezoid in Livecode.
The regular polygon tool set to 4 sides doesn't allow you to grab any given
Similarly, the polygon graphic also doesn't provide grab points for corners of
a rect that you can drag and adjust
Is this just impossible? or am I
er within it??
On 11/23/16, 12:50 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Richard Gaskin"
<use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of ambassa...@fourthworld.com>
wrote:
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote:
...
> on libraryStack
> # do more initialization stuff he
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