Buying the book? Confirm your purchase!

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Guys,

If you have bought the book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner, 
make sure to confirm your address when you receive a request to do so. 
It appears that several people have never confirmed their address and 
thus have never received the book. If you confirm your address, you'll 
receive the book by postal mail a few weeks later.


That leaves me to wish everyone a great New Year's Eve and a wonderful 
2023! Happy New Year everyone!


Kind regards,

Mark

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Re: Sad news about Brahmanathaswami

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

I'm so sorry to read this.  Thanks for sharing the message with us, 
André. My sincere condolences to all his love ones.


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Op 25-12-2022 om 18:00 schreef Andre Garzia via use-livecode:

Dear LiveCoders,

Many of you here remember Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami (some of you met him as 
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami many years ago). Swami has always been a champion for 
LiveCode and together with other other monks in Kaua’i Hindu Monastery built 
what is probably the largest LiveCode-backed website available on the net. He’s 
been a constant fixture here on the list for many years and many here been at 
some time or another worked with him on various projects. I’m sad to say that 
Brahmanathaswami passed away this week on Hawaii. His life has been full of joy 
among his beloved monks in a paradise Island full of love and sunshine.

I’ve worked with him there on and off for the best part of maybe 18 years 
(we’re not exactly sure when I started), he’s been a great friend and together 
we built many wondrous things with LiveCode. I’ll forever cherish those years, 
and I hope you all remember him fondly today as well.

Kind regards
Andre

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Re: Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

In one word: DreamCard! :D

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Op 2-9-2021 om 15:49 schreef Michael Kristensen via use-livecode:

Hi there

I suggest that there could be a Non-Appbuilding Community Edition

That would be for personal use, and to learn coding.

Michael



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Re: Calling all fish!

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David,

I sent you an e-mail yesterday. Maybe in your spam box.

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Op 2-9-2021 om 14:22 schreef David Bovill via use-livecode:

Don’t go , we love you :)

The open source version, is alive. It just needs maintainers. Personally I 
think this move by LiveCode is healthy. We now have two choices a free open 
source edition maintained by the community, and a closed source version 
maintained by LiveCode LTD. If you want to use the commercial wizz-bang extras 
LiveCode LTD adds - then you can upgrade.

In the meantime the language should go it’s own way. The language I believe has 
always wanted to be a free and open literate language, that enables anyone to 
code in an English like syntax. That vision was the foundation of the 
Kickstarter Campaign and was called Open Language.

I believe the community should maintain that vision. I for one am going to dive 
in :) I see this in two parts.

The first is preserving and maintaining the current code base. The LiveCode 
engine is rich and powerful. Using the current community edition you can create 
pretty well anything you want. Preserving this and strengthening the existing 
sharing of code, and documentation gets us a long way.

Second I feel we should aspire to something meaningful and motivating for the 
future of the language. This would be a long term vision, with a lot of 
learning on the road there. This is how I see it for myself personally, and of 
course I would love it if I had some company on the way :)

Open Language is something I know that is close to LiveCode Ltd’s heart, but it 
is hampered by the need to preserve the legacy  of maintaining complex and 
user-friendly IDE. That with the perceived commercial need to provide all the 
present abilities of the standalone builder mean that it is not a realistic 
proposition. However we can simplify by focussing only on the pure language as 
used by the server - this is a manageable task.

Freeing Open Language from this legacy is a good thing. When it is truly free 
it can join on equal footing the other great languages out there, and still 
hopefully remain compatible with LiveCode Ltd’s commercial offering. For me my 
journey is about mastering the tools that enable the creation of modern 
languages, and these tools have come a long way.

I’m heading on a family holiday now - but over the next two weeks - in 
discussion and with the advice of whoever is interested - Ill get a web site up 
for the project.

    Schedule a call with me
On 2 Sep 2021, 02:29 +0100, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
, wrote:

It’s, “So long, and thanks for all the fish!” And unless you can do a double 
360 back flip while passing through a smallish ring suspended above the pool, I 
remain unimpressed.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 1, 2021, at 17:53, Neville Smythe via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 1 Sep 2021, at 11:36 pm, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

i am not sure, if everyone is aware of it, but standalones that were created 
with the Starter Plan license will expire as soon as the Startert Plan 
subscription expires.

Not even Apple is that rapacious.

I used to have a commercial licence back when I was selling stuff (although the 
economics of software never made sense). Since retiring I have been 
“freeloading" with the Community edition as a hobbyist, my only LC uses being 
for personal use, and maintaining admin and operating software I wrote for a 
not-for-profit sporting organisation, and occasionally contributing bug reports. I 
can well understand the need for LC to move to a profitable basis, and I would be 
happy buy a plan if it made sense for our use, but there is no way my NFP 
association can afford US$1000 every year - or even one year (we would use 3 
platforms, and not even the Server is thrown in with the desktop platforms). And a 
Starter Kit that means the app would stop working when I pass on (I have been around 
since Hypercard day 1) is an insult. Seems to me the hobbyist use of LC has come to 
an end. A great pity, but I guess times move on.

I have greatly enjoyed being part of this (mostly) friendly and generous 
community for many years.

Neville Smythe

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Re: knot in my brain?

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:-)

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Op 15-9-2020 om 15:34 schreef Klaus major-k via use-livecode:

Hi all,


Am 15.09.2020 um 15:30 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
:

Hi friends,

...
repeat with i = 1 to the num of grcs
## This line:
if the short name of grc i begins with "Graphic_" then
## Gives me the error -> no such object
...
What am I overlooking?
I know do, but have no clue currently...

ignore this, of course I cannot delete an already deleted object.
...
repeat with i = the num of grcs down to 1
...
Does the trick, ouch embassing!


Best

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Re: knot in my brain?

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Hi Klaus,

I bet the problem is in the remainder of the script, for instance 
changing layers or deleting graphics (although the latter probably not). 
If you change it to


repeat with i = 1 to the num of grcs
  if the short name of grc i beginswith "Graphic_" then put i
end repeat

do you still get an error?

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Op 15-9-2020 om 15:30 schreef Klaus major-k via use-livecode:

Hi friends,

...
repeat with i = 1 to the num of grcs
## This line:
if the short name of grc i begins with "Graphic_" then
## Gives me the error -> no such object
...
What am I overlooking?
I know do, but have no clue currently...

Thanks in advance!


Best

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GABRIELE STROE could you please contact me

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Dear Gabriele Stroe,

We (Economy-x-Talk) have tried to contact you in every possible way. We 
have even tried to call you, but your phone number appears 
dysfunctional. Please contact me as a as possible by sending an e-mail 
addres to m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com, or contact me on Twitter 
(xtalkprogrammer) or Facebook (marksch) if you have trouble sending e-mails.


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Re: LCGitHubLib deprecation

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That's a very general message. It doesn't say that the events are in the 
lib and it doesn't say that the lib will be removed. Also, you don't 
really need this lib just to use Github with LiveCode, even if it may be 
useful.


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Op 8-7-2020 om 16:25 schreef Pi Digital via use-livecode:

Hi

This is what I received:

We're contacting you regarding upcoming changes for your GitHub Apps:
  - LCGitHubLib

We no longer support two events which your GitHub Apps may rely on, 
"integration_installation" and "integration_installation_repositories".

These events can be replaced with the "installation" and 
"installation_repositories" events respectively.

The "integration_installation" and "integration_installation_repositories" 
events will be removed after October 1st, 2020.

Please visit 
https://developer.github.com/changes/2020-04-15-replacing-the-installation-and-installation-repositories-eventsfor
 more information about suggested changes, brownouts, and removal dates.

Thanks,
The GitHub Team


On 8 Jul 2020, at 12:47, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Sean,

i did a Google search for LCGitHubLib  and could not find any information about 
it.

What is/was it?


-
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Life Is Too Short For Boring Code


Am 07.07.2020 um 22:01 schrieb Pi Digital via use-livecode 
:

Hey all.

Just received notification from github that the LCGitHubLib app will no longer 
be available on github from October. I’m sure the relevant coders have also 
been notified but will this have impact on our own repository forks. We have 
till October so there’s no rush. I’m just starting the conversation for an 
early heads up.

All the best

Sean Cole
Pi Digital
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Re: Saving stacks before closing

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In LiveCode, usually you're asked to save a stack, even if you didn't 
change it.


The reason is that the property that indicates that the stack has been 
changed, is set to true when a field gets focus. A field gets focus 
whenever a stacks comes to front. When a stack is closed, it needs to 
come to the front :-)


On Mac this issue is worse than on Windows.

In standalones, you need to take care of this yourself. I'm sure you can 
do a better job than LiveCode, particularly if you can limit your app

  to specific changes.

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Op 24-5-2020 om 19:28 schreef David Epstein via use-livecode:

I want to give the user a choice of whether to save changes before closing a 
stack.  To script this, I will handle the closeStackRequest message, and find a 
way to keep track of whether the stack in question has been changed since it 
was last saved.

What I am trying to figure out is under what circumstances LiveCode takes care 
of this without my scripting it.  In the LiveCode IDE, trying to close an 
unsaved stack seems automatically to ask me whether I want to save changes (but 
I have not found a handler in the backscripts that implements this).  This is 
true of stacks I have created with the IDE “new stack” tool and then try to 
close.  Is it also true of stacks I have created by script?

And what happens in a standalone?  Does this feature still work there?

In short, do I need to script an option to save changed stacks before closing, 
or can I rely on LiveCode to take care of this?

Many thanks.

David Epstein
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Re: Where is André ? André says "goodbye"

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It looks like url("file:...") still makes some conversion. I think we 
should still use binfile to avoid conversion and before we do so, we 
need to make sure we get the encoding right.


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Op 14-3-2020 om 14:29 schreef Paul Dupuis via use-livecode:

On 3/14/2020 3:58 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
revXMLPutIntoNode idID, "/identity/name", textEncode (field  
"name_source" ,"UTF8") -- fld contains "André"


When I write the XML file:

put revXMLText (idID) into URL **myFile.xml**

… I don’t find André any longer, but Andr


First,  is HTML for é which is correct, just encoded as an HTML 
character value.


If you code it as (below) with the textEncode to UTF8 removed

on mouseUp
  put 
revXMLCreateTree("",false,true,false) 
into idID
  revXMLPutIntoNode idID, "/identity/name",  field  "name_source" -- 
fld contains "André"
  put revXMLText (idID) into URL 
("file:"("desktop")&"myFile.xml")

end mouseUp

You just get Andr - the é is removed

on mouseUp
  put 
revXMLCreateTree("",false,true,false) 
into idID
  revXMLPutIntoNode idID, "/identity/name",  field  "name_source" -- 
fld contains "André"
  put textEncode(revXMLText (idID),"UTF-8") into URL 
("file:"("desktop")&"myFile.xml")

end mouseUp

You still just get Andr - the é is removed

I think revXMLText may convert all non-ASCII characters to HTML entities

Some of the rev* libraries are not fully Unicode aware, for example, 
for revZIP, I filed this confirmed bug: 
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22202


Either by design or as a bug, any accented characters (non-ASCII) you 
may have to deal with HTTML encodings for


And a search of the LiveCode Quality Center shows the exact bug you 
are running into is: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18927


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Raffle

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I'm on the verge of raffling off a copy of Programming LiveCode for the 
Real Beginner, second edition, on Facebook. If you want to get a chance 
to win a free copy, go to https://www.facebook.com/LiveCode.Beginner/ 
and like the pinned post about the raffle and like the page.


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Re: Book - Programming LiveCode... - What if you don't hear form us after purchasing

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Dear Marian,

Yes, your book was sent approximately 6 weeks ago. We'll be in touch.

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Op 16-2-2020 om 13:18 schreef Marian Petrides MD via use-livecode:

Mark,

I purchased the book and I think I responded to your email regarding mailing 
address. However, I have not received my book. Has it been sent?

For the record, my mailing address is:



[snip]



Thanks.

Marian



Sent from my iPad


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If you don't see the e-mail and hence don't reply, you won't be receiving your 
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So, in short, when purchasing a book please make sure all contact information 
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If you don't hear from us, contact us and don't use an e-mail address that's 
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Book - Programming LiveCode... - What if you don't hear form us after purchasing

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Hello book fans,

There are a few people who have purchased the book but never responded 
to our e-mails. If you have purchased it but haven't received it yet, 
please read this.


One you have your payment confirmation (from PayPal or from 
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e-mail. If you don't reply, we will eventually send you a letter (a real 
one in an envelope), but we'll keep trying to send you e-mails for 
several months before sending you the letter.


If you don't see the e-mail and hence don't reply, you won't be 
receiving your copy of the book. If you also don't reply to the letter, 
we will just keep trying to send you e-mails forever. Sometimes, if we 
know how to contact you, we may also contact you on FB Messenger or 
WhatsApp or even send you an SMS. So, make sure the phone number 
provided to PayPal, if you have provided one, is correct.



So, in short, when purchasing a book please make sure all contact 
information that you provide to PayPal is correct, particularly if you 
purchase without account, and double-check your e-mail address and your 
phone number.


If you don't hear from us, contact us and don't use an e-mail address 
that's linked to Apple (e.g. mac.com, me.com, apple.com, icloud.com).


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Sorry - test

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Problems with my IP and this list again. Testing.

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Re: Keep trying

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It worked :-) Sorry for the white noise.

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Op 1/7/2020 om 8:23 PM schreef Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode:

Trying to send a message from my (blocked?) IP address.




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Keep trying

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Trying to send a message from my (blocked?) IP address.

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Re: Second edition of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Thanks Tom!

Mark Schonewille
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Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner
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Op 12/31/2019 om 1:40 AM schreef Tom Glod via use-livecode:

Right on Mark...wishing you success with the book.




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Second edition of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Hi everyone,,

I hope you have a great Chrsitmas and a great year behind you. This ear 
I've been busier than ever. One of my projects was the second edition of 
my book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner.


https://www3.economy-x-talk.com/file.php?node=programming-livecode-for-the-real-beginner

The book has been updated to include the changes in recent versions of 
LiveCode. Important changes concern the properties inspector and the 
standalone application settings window. Large parts of the chapter about 
properties have been rewritten and several pictures have been updated.


Almost no sample scripts needed to be updated, apart from a number of 
Unicode-related scripts. I've decided, however, to discuss both the 
unicodeEncode/unicodeDecode as well as the textEncode/textDecode 
functions. It seems to me that the old functions are still useful, even 
if only for the sake of backward compatibility. (Not so long ago, I had 
a project where direct conversion using uniEncode and uniDecode seemed 
the easiest route).


Currently, we're in the process of updating the website. I have replaced 
the old (red) cover picture with a picture of the new, fresh, yellow 
cover. A few details still need to be adjusted. Soon, we will raise the 
price of the book. The price change is due to DHL's decision to increase 
the tarrif for books. The current price is 32 euro but we are forced to 
raise the price, prrobably by 4 euro to 36 euro. As long as the price on 
the website hasn't been changed, you can still purchase the book at the 
old price.


IF you have any questions, please write to supp...@economy-x-talk.com. 
Don't use an e-mail address that is affiliated with Apple (for instance 
mac.com, apple.com, icloud.com; we won't be able to confirm your address 
and send you a book). The book is available as a paperback and not in an 
electronic format and we ship all over the world (with China as a 
possible exception; contact support if you're in China).


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Re: test

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Sorry for the somewhat anapproprate e-mail. After being unable to send 
e-mail to the use list for about year, and apparently LiveCode.com being 
unable to solve the problem, I suddenly seem to be able to connect to 
the community again.


Op 29-7-2019 om 00:17 schreef Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode:

tst


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[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

tst


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Re: LC Server - MySQL - update about 2000 rows/records of a table

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

The shell function can do this. I don't know if there could be a limit 
to the length of the shell command though.


Working example:

on mouseUp
   put shortfilepath("C:\Program Files\MySQL\MySQL Server 
5.6\bin\mysql.exe") into myFilePath

   -- the following line contains 2 insert commands
   put "insert into testtable (name) values ('Anne'); insert into 
testtable (name) values ('Belinda')" into mySql
   put myFilePath && "-uUSERNAME -pPASSWORD test -e" && quote & mySql & 
quote into myQuery

   get shell(myQuery)
end mouseUp

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Op 29-Dec-17 om 21:53 schreef Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode:

Hi,

i need to update regularly about 2000 rows/records of a MySQL table with 
Livecode Server.

What is better?
Executing the 2000 update commands in one take using revexecuteSQL
or should i execute one update command after each other within a repeat loop?

What do you think?

Regards,

Matthias




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Re: using LC as an emulator

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Someone wrote an emulator using Xojo.
https://alwaysbusycorner.com/2015/02/20/xojo-chip-8-emulator/
Perhaps an emulator would also be possible in LiveCode.

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Op 06-Nov-17 om 20:22 schreef Mike Kerner via use-livecode:

Anyone write an emulator in LC?  I've got an old ERP system that we own all
the source to.  I'd like to.  The environment is interpreted, so if I could
make an emulator/wrapper, I could in theory move the whole thing into LC
and dump the old environments.




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[OT] If you purchased the book recently...

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Hello list members,

Have you purchased Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner recently? 
Please, check your mail box (and your spam box) and find our e-mail 
message. We have asked you to confirm your postal mail address. We need 
you to reply before we can send you the book! If you confirm your 
address now, we'll send the book by the end of the week!


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Re: Book (If you're new to LiveCode...)

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Hi,

At the end of this week, our office will close for 2 weeks. Any orders 
received before Wednesday 20th September will be processed and sent 
before we close.


Once you have ordered Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner, keep 
an eye on your e-mail! You need to confirm your postal mail address 
before we can send the book.



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Op 29-Aug-17 om 11:52 schreef Mark Schonewille:

Summer is nearing its end and schools are starting again. That seems a
good moment to ask your attention for the book Programming LiveCode for
the Real Beginner. I wrote this book in 2012-2013 and have sold numerous
copies over the past 5 years --for which a big thank-you to the LiveCode
community. Eventually, I decided to print a really huge pile, so it
would never be out of stock and we'd be able to deliver immediately
(depending on postal services and customs).

The fourth print of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner has been
updated to include a number of new XML commands, which were introduced
after the first release of the book. I have also added a few remarks
about LiveCode 7 to the chapter on Unicode. Since the book deals with
the basics of the LiveCode scripting language, which everybody needs to
know, it continues to be very relevant, no matter which version of
LiveCode you're using.

Only the paragraphs about the properties inspector need to be updated to
reflect the changes in LC 9, but these paragraphs deal with the
interface rather than scripting. There is no plan to rewrite the book,
but I might eventually delete those paragraphs altogether if we ever get
to producing a fifth print run.

Here is some information that you may want to know about the book:
- the book is not available as an e-book and it won't be, please don't
ask for it;
- there are no plans to rewrite the book;
- we ship the book everywhere in the world, if we can physically get
there (deliveries to Antarctica will take a while though) and shipping
costs are included in the price;
- book shops and educational institutes and anyone ordering at least 10
copies may contact us for a discount;
- after you purchase the book, we will ask you to confirm your postal
address;
- if you don't get an e-mail after you purchase the book, contact us and
use a different e-mail address if you have tried to contact us before;
- you can win a free copy of the book (perhaps to give away to a friend)
by liking the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/LiveCode.Beginner
(but make sure to keep an eye on the page);
- please fill out our survey at
http://livecodebeginner.economy-x-talk.com/survey/ regardless of whether
you have purchased/are planning to purchase the book;
- if you have any more questions, please contact support [a t]
economy-x-talk.com

You can order the book at http://tinyurl.com/livecodebook and more info
is available at http://tinyurl.com/livecodeblog



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Re: new license type

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Yeah, I might do this, if they keep the license long enough for me to 
adjust my products.


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Op 13-Sep-17 om 19:48 schreef Tom Glod via use-livecode:

Hey folks, what you all think about the new license?

I like it, I'll end up paying it before long, and I suspect a lot of people
will too. Good move by Livecode Inc.
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Re: [OT] Hello World

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Thanks. It is an interesting article. I tend to agree and I think it 
would be fun to give BBC Basic a try. The purpose may not always be to 
move on to other programming languages however and so I still might 
start with LiveCode right-away.


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Op 02-Sep-17 om 18:49 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

71

Richmond.

On 9/2/17 10:39 am, Mark Schonewille via use-livecode wrote:

Which page?

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Op 02-Sep-17 om 00:18 schreef Jim Lambert via use-livecode:

Richmond,

Congratulations on your Hello World article.
Very nice.

Jim Lambert

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Re: [OT] Hello World

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Which page?

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Op 02-Sep-17 om 00:18 schreef Jim Lambert via use-livecode:

Richmond,

Congratulations on your Hello World article.
Very nice.

Jim Lambert

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Book (If you're new to LiveCode...)

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Summer is nearing its end and schools are starting again. That seems a 
good moment to ask your attention for the book Programming LiveCode for 
the Real Beginner. I wrote this book in 2012-2013 and have sold numerous 
copies over the past 5 years --for which a big thank-you to the LiveCode 
community. Eventually, I decided to print a really huge pile, so it 
would never be out of stock and we'd be able to deliver immediately 
(depending on postal services and customs).


The fourth print of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner has been 
updated to include a number of new XML commands, which were introduced 
after the first release of the book. I have also added a few remarks 
about LiveCode 7 to the chapter on Unicode. Since the book deals with 
the basics of the LiveCode scripting language, which everybody needs to 
know, it continues to be very relevant, no matter which version of 
LiveCode you're using.


Only the paragraphs about the properties inspector need to be updated to 
reflect the changes in LC 9, but these paragraphs deal with the 
interface rather than scripting. There is no plan to rewrite the book, 
but I might eventually delete those paragraphs altogether if we ever get 
to producing a fifth print run.


Here is some information that you may want to know about the book:
- the book is not available as an e-book and it won't be, please don't 
ask for it;

- there are no plans to rewrite the book;
- we ship the book everywhere in the world, if we can physically get 
there (deliveries to Antarctica will take a while though) and shipping 
costs are included in the price;
- book shops and educational institutes and anyone ordering at least 10 
copies may contact us for a discount;
- after you purchase the book, we will ask you to confirm your postal 
address;
- if you don't get an e-mail after you purchase the book, contact us and 
use a different e-mail address if you have tried to contact us before;
- you can win a free copy of the book (perhaps to give away to a friend) 
by liking the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/LiveCode.Beginner 
(but make sure to keep an eye on the page);
- please fill out our survey at 
http://livecodebeginner.economy-x-talk.com/survey/ regardless of whether 
you have purchased/are planning to purchase the book;
- if you have any more questions, please contact support [a t] 
economy-x-talk.com


You can order the book at http://tinyurl.com/livecodebook and more info 
is available at http://tinyurl.com/livecodeblog


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Re: on-rev servers

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

I can still see your website.
http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/home.html
I just can't see Andre's website.

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Op 12-Aug-17 om 20:48 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

Are they dead, down, being maintained or otherwise as certainly
unable to get here:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com

Richmond.
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Re: Mysterious new MetaCard file

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

I got it running in 5 minutes. The guy who uploaded it says he has removed all 
references to passwords. I have no idea why this was a problem for him, but it 
is nice that he returned the modified files as required by the oss licence.

⁣Verzonden door BlueMail ​

Op 8 jul. 2017 19:40, om 19:40, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
 schreef:
>I have just received a note that a new file has been uploaded to
>the MetaCard Yahoo group:
>
>https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MC_IDE/conversations/messages
>
>from an email address rdbar...@sbcglobal.net
>
>This purports to be a new version of the mchome file . . .
>
>However I feel uncomfortable about it for a number of reasons:
>
>1. Who is "rdbar814" ?
>
>2. Why is there no adequate explanation as to what it really does, 
>because as far as I know
>there is no way to get metaCard running with an LC 8 or 9 engine?
>
>I have downloaded the ZIP file onto my Macintosh, but seriously wonder
>about the wisdom of unzipping it.
>
>Richmond.
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Re: Division by Zero Error

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Usually, I can predict that a numerator is going to be 0, e.g. in 
1/(x^2). I just check the value of the numerator before doing the division.


In rare cases, I can't predict the value of the numerator. In those 
cases, I put a try control structure around the offending lines and some 
code to clean up after the "final" line.


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Op 08-Jul-17 om 05:35 schreef Roger Guay via use-livecode:

I often find that I have to deal with a division by zero error message in 
plotting functions, solving equation etc. Are there methods or techniques used 
to programmatically handle or work-around a possible division by zero? e.g. If 
I want to evaluate y= 1/(x-3), what can I do to deal with a possible x=3 
situation?

Thanks for your help,

Roger
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Re: Capturing screen into image

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Set the lockLoc of the image to false. Set the text of the image to the 
PNG data (you're doing this correctly), but don't set the rect of the 
image first. If necessary, set the width of the image to the 
formattedWidth of the image and set the height of the image to the 
formattedHeight of the image.


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Op 30-Jun-17 om 20:38 schreef Terence Heaford via use-livecode:

This script does not work.

export snapshot from rectangle (the rect of widget "Browser") to pictVariable 
as PNG

set the rect of image "myImage" to the rect of widget "Browser"

put pictVariable into image "myImage"

print card from topleft of image "myImage" to bottomRight of image  “myImage"


After placing the captured image into “myImage” there is a grey bar at the top 
and the full width of the image is not visible.

Am I doing something wrong?


Thanks

Terry
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Re: Obtaining the "active" Desktop/Monitor under OSX?

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

If I execute this

put (the loc of this stack is within -1440,-132,0,768)

on my primary screen, I get false in the message box.

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Op 28-Jun-17 om 16:59 schreef Paul Dupuis via use-livecode:

I remember when the multiple Desktop feature was introduced on OSX
(Yosemite I think?) there was a very active discussion on this email
list about how to tell what monitor (in a multiple monitor
configuration) your application was starting up on.

I have tried searching for this but my search keyword choices (or search
skills) are failing me.

Does anyone remember how to do this? Or can point me to the
answer/workaround from the discussion?

OR has anything been added to the LiveCode language in 8.x.x+ that lets
an app tell what monitor it is starting up on? I check the 8.1.4
Dictionary, but I could not find anything.

The 1st line of the screenrects is the "primary" monitor, which with the
OSX feature is not necessarily the monitor the app is launching on
running on (it has its menubar on)

Thank you in advance for any pointers/guidance.


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Re: Petya attack

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Hi Richmond,

Probably not, because the offending file(s) need(s) to be installed in 
the Windows directory to be effective. A Mac doesn't have a Windows 
directory. Any guest OS's running in a virtual machine however may be 
affected.


I could imagine that other Office packages running on Windows machines 
may be vulnerable.


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Op 28-Jun-17 om 08:47 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

" This ransomware is exploiting a vulnerability in Microsoft Office when
handling RTF documents"

Although the article seems to say that this thing only affects Windows I
wonder whether this thing can
do damage to Macs via Microsoft Office for Mac or opening one of these
RTF documents with one of the
other Office suites?

Richmond.



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Re: Determining left or right movement in a mouseMove handler

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Hoping I didn't mix up the x's and y's, I believe the script you need 
looks like this:


local myOldX,myOldY
on mouseMove theNewX,theNewY
  if myOldX < theNewX then put
"right" into myMovement
  else
put "left" into myMoveMent
  end if
  if myOldY > myNewY then put
"down" into myMoveMent
  else
put "up" into myMoveMent
  end if
  // do something with right, left,
  // up and down here.
  put theNewX into myOldX
  put theNewY into myOldY
  pass mouseMove
end mouseMove


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Op 27-Jun-17 om 12:32 schreef Michael Kristensen via use-livecode:

Hi there

How can I determine if the mouse is moving left or right (or up or down) on the 
screen in a mouseMove handler?

Not just from the outset (that is easy) but at any moment, like when a user 
changes his mind and move the opposite way.

Something like put x into oldX will not work.

Thanks
Michael
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Re: RIP Dan Shafer

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Quartam is not by Dan but by Jan Schenkel.

Let me use this opportunity to express my sympathy for Dan's family.

Also, there is a fund raiser that might be of interest to readers of 
this list.

https://www.gofundme.com/dans-next-adventure

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Op 22-Jun-17 om 14:27 schreef Roger Eller via use-livecode:

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Jerry Jensen via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


We lost Dan Shafer yesterday. He did a lot for LiveCode. I’m sure anybody
who met him will miss him.
.Jerry



I have been learning from Dans books
<https://www.amazon.com/Dan-Shafer/e/B000AP7QLG> since I started with
HyperCard, and I recently completed a project which uses his Quartum
PDFLibrary <http://users.telenet.be/quartam/pdflib/index.html>.  Saddened
by the news of his passing, he will be remembered.

~Roger
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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

I use a G4 Quicksilver as a server. I have taken it apart and put it back 
together several times, something I can't do with a Mac Mini or MacBook. I use 
Revolution 4.x for special server tasks. It would be convenient if I could use 
the latest version of LiveCode to build not only for Windows, Linux and Intel 
Macs but also for PowerMac. Obviously it would be cool if I could use all 
features of LiveCode 9 on the PowerMac, but I'd be happy already with just the 
possibility to build standalones for OSX 10.4. 


⁣Verzonden door BlueMail ​

Op 8 jun. 2017 12:06, om 12:06, Richmond via use-livecode 
 schreef:
>So, backwards compatibility does not interest you?
>
>I, for one, run Mac Machines running MacOS 10.4 PPC.
>
>A lot of these machine are being dumped in poor countries where they
>can 
>be used
>for good purposes.
>
>Richmond.
>
>On 08/06/17 09:19, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
>> On 2017-06-07 21:59, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
>>> I disagree as there are plenty of Macs "out there" in the worldthat
>>> run 32-bit systems.
>>
>> Not that LiveCode supports.
>>
>>> Far better to have BOTH possibilities checked as default.
>>
>> Only if there existed a Mac which can run LiveCode but cannot run 
>> 64-bit apps - which is the case for LiveCode 9.x as it supports
>10.9+.
>>
>> Indeed it would be far better to have no possibility at all (simpler)
>
>> - just build for 64-bit since...
>>
>> 64-bit support has been around since 10.6, at that time there were 
>> machines which could run 10.6 which were 32-bit only.
>>
>> However, all macs which will run 10.7 will run 64-bit apps.
>>
>> Therefore, if LiveCode only supports 10.7 and above, then LiveCode
>and 
>> any apps you build with it need only be 64-bit.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>
>
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Re: Rooting around in the Forum: destructors

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Short answer: LiveCode doesn't have destructors because the xTalk family 
of languages doesn't require them. xTalk languages make the life of the 
developer easier by taking such tasks our of their hands.


1a) Yes, under the hood, because LiveCode is written using variants of 
C, which are object oriented. So, LiveCode is creating and deleting 
(destructing) objects continuously, but the LiveCode developer/user 
doesn't need to be bothered with that.


1b) You could make sure to write clean scripts that always delete 
controls (and even cards and stacks) and variables that are no longer 
needed. LiveCode does a good job cleaning up after finishing a handler, 
so it isn't really necessary to do this yourself, but if you are 
creating controls that you need only one time, it is probably a good 
idea to delete them afterwards. When you delete a control, an object 
under the hood is no longer required and will be "destroyed" at some point.


2) It is in the object-oriented language that is used to create 
LiveCode. There is also a delete command in the LiveCode scripting 
language. The delete command isn't a destructor, but it does provide a 
form a cleaning up.


3) Most of the cleaning up is done automatically. Local variables that 
are used by one handler only, are deleted automatically. Moreover, the 
LiveCode scripting language isn't an object-oriented language, even 
though some people may try to make you believe otherwise and some other 
people wish it were. Really, it isn't. Because the language isn't 
object-oriented, it doesn't need a destructor.



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Op 03-Jun-17 om 18:46 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=8=29319

Not having looked at any sort of "serious" programming language since
about 1989 (I don't think that VB 6 is a serious language),
I find it hard to understand what a destructor is beyond a way to free
memory on a system that has constraints in that area.

HOWEVER: as there is no thing in Livecode having "destrucor" written all
over it in big letters for slow characters
like myself could some one tell me:

1. Does Livecode have something(s) that does the job of a destructor?

2. If so, where is it and so on?

3. If not, why not?

Richmond.
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Re: forcing a number to be interpreted as a field name

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

You shouldn't use numbers and constants as names for fields. One and 1 
are identical and field "one" as well as field "1" may be interpreted as 
the first field rather than the field with name "one" or "1".


Instead always start control names with a letter or a symbol that isn't 
a number. For example, you could start all names with n and write a loop 
like


repeat with x = 1 to 10
  set the numberformat to "00"
  put fld ("n" & x*1) into myValue
  -- do something with myValue here
end repeat

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Op 31-May-17 om 01:59 schreef Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode:

I have, due to the government's wisdom, checkboxes I have to use to display
numeric values.  I've created my own to make them the right size, and to
function as parts of groups.

But looping through, with the fields in these things named for the possible
values (usually text), I have to refer to them.

So I have value of  (0,1,2) for one of these


I need to loop through these values to set the field with the corresponding
name.

Having a value of zero in vl, how do can I refer to the field named "0" in
group tgGrp?

When this isn't a calculated value, I do it by name (zero, one, etc.), but
that isn't an option sometimes.



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Re: Open Inv Stack on iPhone

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Assuming that you don't need to display the stack, you could use

start using stack “/folder/folder/stackName.rev"

and reference any objects and scripts in the stack.

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Op 25-May-17 om 22:59 schreef Dan Friedman via use-livecode:

Does anyone have any insight about this….  If you open a stack file on an 
iPhone invisibly, the app crashes.  For example:

  open inv stack “/folder/folder/stackName.rev"

This works fine on windows, mac, and an iPad.  But, on a iPhone (real device or 
simulator) it crashes.  Any thoughts?  Or perhaps a workaround?

The file and the path are good. I know this because if I open the stack without 
“inv”, it opens just fine.

LC 8.1.3
iOS 10.3.1

FYI, the goal is to get the stack file open and in memory so I can call it 
later.  But, I don’t want to see it open.

Thanks in advance!
-Dan

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Re: Alan's problem

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Definitely.

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Op 30-Apr-17 om 12:27 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

Is LiveCode Turing complete?

Richmond.
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Re: sims' spotty dog

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

It looks to me like at least one of the original e-mails came from a 
server in Vietnam while Sims server seems to be located in Texas and his 
home is on an island. I'd say there is little Sims can do about it.


If his e-mail address were to be disabled, the spammers would simply 
spoof someone else's address. A solution might be to apply Spamcop 
filters, but many people, including those with OnRev accounts, are on 
shared servers and will often get blocked by Spamcop and still be unable 
to stop the spam.


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Op 30-Apr-17 om 09:37 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

Possibly the simplest solution would be for Sims to set up another
e-mail account.

Richmond.

On 4/29/17 8:59 pm, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> Why has nothing been done about this?

A less presumptuous question might have been:

"What has been done about this?"

...for which the answer would be that I wrote Sims about it the other
day, and he replied to let me know he's written Heather about it.

The precise nature of the problem is unclear to me at this time, given
how frequently mail headers are forged, making it possible that
they're not coming from his account at all.

May take them a bit longer to sort out, but they're working on it.



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Re: How many words from start of text to my selection

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

HYi Kaveh,

LiveCode sets the focus to the clicked object after running the scripts. 
If I would select text the normal way, the selection would be deselected 
again, because the focus would go away from the field to the button 
containing the script. Using the send in time command, I make sure that 
this command is executed after LiveCode completes its routines, also 
after LiveCode sets the focus.


If you use a different way to execute the script rather then from a 
button or other object that is activated by a click, you won't need this 
last line.


Moreover, sometimes I have this problem and sometimes not. I haven't 
figured out why. At least, when it occurs, there is a way to solve it.


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Op 22-Apr-17 om 16:05 schreef Kaveh Bazargan:

Wonderful :-)

Can you give me a hint of this line please:

send "select word" && myChunk && "of fld 1" to me in 0 millisecs

Why not just

select word" && myChunk && "of fld 1"

On 22 April 2017 at 12:33, Mark Schonewille via use-livecode <
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This tells you the number of the selected word:

on mouseUp
   put the selectedChunk into myChunk
   put word 4 of myChunk into myChunk
   put the number of words of char 1 to myChunk of fld 1
   send "select word" && myChunk && "of fld 1" to me in 0 millisecs
end mouseUp

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Op 22-Apr-17 om 13:18 schreef Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode:


I have selected some text in a field. I want to convert that to "word xxx
of fld yyy". Any hints on how I do that?



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Re: How many words from start of text to my selection

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

This tells you the number of the selected word:

on mouseUp
   put the selectedChunk into myChunk
   put word 4 of myChunk into myChunk
   put the number of words of char 1 to myChunk of fld 1
   send "select word" && myChunk && "of fld 1" to me in 0 millisecs
end mouseUp

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Op 22-Apr-17 om 13:18 schreef Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode:

I have selected some text in a field. I want to convert that to "word xxx
of fld yyy". Any hints on how I do that?



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Re: Is there a Macintosh equivalent to relaunch on Windows?

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Yes, just put $0, $1 etc.

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Op 27-Mar-17 om 21:53 schreef Bill Vlahos via use-livecode:

I use relaunch on Windows standalone to accept command line arguments.

Is there an equivalent for a Macintosh standalone to do this?

Thanks,
Bill Vlahos

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Re: Allowed Orientations failing on mobile in 9dp5?

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Thanks foe pointing out that it works in 8.1.3. At the conference, we 
tried quite a few versions and none worked. This must be a bug.


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Op 11-Mar-17 om 06:03 schreef Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode:

This used to work on 8.1.3

on preopenStack
   command sivasiva_InitOrientation "landscape"
end preopenstack

#with these in a library that was started on init.. (i.e. effectively a 
backscript)

command sivasiva_InitOrientation orientationType
if the environment is not "mobile" then return false
set the fullscreenmode of this stack to "showAll" -- better for wider screens
mobile_SetAllowedOrientation orientationType
end sivasiva_InitOrientation

command mobile_SetAllowedOrientation orientationType
if the environment is not "mobile" then return empty
switch orientationType
case "portrait"
put "portrait,portrait upside down" into allowedOrientations
break
case "landscape"
put "landscape left,landscape right" into allowedOrientations
break
default -- allow all, ignoring face up/down
put "portrait,portrait upside down,landscape left,landscape right" into 
allowedOrientations
end switch
mobileSetAllowedOrientations allowedOrientations
return allowedOrientations
end mobile_SetAllowedOrientation


This use to force a new stack open in the app to "go sideways" even if the user was 
holding the phone "upright"

but now standalones built with 9dp5… the stack opens small in portrait mode

is this happening for anyone else?

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Re: IOS Provisioning Profile... again

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

If you don't want to renew the certificates every year, you can move to 
Android. Users of Android phones can (temporarily) allow for the 
installation of apk's from unknown sources (i.e. signed for development 
only).


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Op 10-Mar-17 om 03:03 schreef Mark Smith via use-livecode:

Just a further question to this thread. Is it possible to deploy (without
going through the app store) and not have to renew the certificates every
year? It's a major bane to have to update these things all the time.

Thanks

Mark



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Re: [ANN] conference - tickets sent

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Beste Dirk,

Ik zal je off-list nog even een mailtje sturen.

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Op 24-Feb-17 om 01:17 schreef Dirk prive via use-livecode:

Ik zie niet direct mijn ticket?
Groeten,
Dirk Cleenwerck


On Feb 23, 2017 23:39, "Mark Schonewille via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


The tickets for the eHUG International Mini Conference on LiveCode have
been sent. Everyone who ordered a ticket until yesterday should have
received it by now. Obviously, if you didn't, you should contact me
right-away.

If you regret not having bought a ticket, you can still do so until we
disable this feature of the website. However, you might want to send me an
e-mail or call first.

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[ANN] conference - tickets sent

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

The tickets for the eHUG International Mini Conference on LiveCode have 
been sent. Everyone who ordered a ticket until yesterday should have 
received it by now. Obviously, if you didn't, you should contact me 
right-away.


If you regret not having bought a ticket, you can still do so until we 
disable this feature of the website. However, you might want to send me 
an e-mail or call first.


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Re: [ANN] About the conference in Antwerp

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Hi,

Please note: today is the last possibility to register for the eHUG 
International Mini Conference on LiveCode in Antwerp, Belgium.


I have updated the website. Please go to
http://economy-x-talk.com/conf/

We're still looking for speakers. If you want to share your ideas or are 
looking for advice, this is your opportunity.


We're expecting people from the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium and 
Switzerland. Given the current location, Antwerp, this conference is an 
ideal opportunity to meet with other LiveCode programmers, if you're in 
the North of France. Please, consider participating.


The website uses PayPal to handle the registration fee. If this isn't a 
good option for you, contact me. Got any more questions? Just send me an 
e-mail.


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Op 19-Feb-17 om 13:10 schreef Mark Schonewille:

Hello,

Next week is the 'eHUG International Mini Conference on LiveCode'. The
conference will take place on 25th February from 13:00h. until 18:00h.
The conference room is open from 12:00h. The location is the Ibis hotel,
Meistraat 39 in Antwerp, Belgium.

Participation is only possible if you purchase a ticket no later than
22nd February. The tickets will be sent to you later this week. There
are 20 tickets available. If you want to be sure of a ticket, you'll
need to act quickly.

The prices of the tickets are listed on the website. Additionally,
non-alcoholic beverages are available for 6 euro per person. Coffee and
tea are available from a dispenser (for which my apologies). If any
budget is left, it will be spent on additional drinks or perhaps on
dinner afterwards.

Everything we need is available: WIFI, a beamer with VGA connection,
electricity, at least one extra laptop, drinks, etc. If you have any
special requests, just let me know.

We need more speakers! You can tell something about your own project,
private or professional, for which you have created a liveCode stack. If
you use a different platform, such as SuperCard, Filemaker, HyperStudio
or Xojo, you're very welcome to tell us about it.

Do you think you're not so good at making presentations? Organise a
workshop instead! Just show us how you work with your favorite tool and
if you like, or if you can, invite your public to join.

Please indicate that you're a speaker when you buy a ticket. You will
receive a discount. A discount is also available if you buy the book
Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner.

After the formal part of the conference, we may have dinner together.
The next day, we might have a social event before going home. We will
organise this on the spot.

I hope to have informed you sufficiently. Just send me an e-mail
right-away if you have any questions and I'll reply as soon as I can.

More information at http://economy-x-talk.com/conf



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[ANN] Conference - book your hotel

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Dear conference participants,

I would like to thank all early birds for registering for the eHUG 
International Mini Confernece on LiveCode.


Some of you may have ordered a hotel already, while others are still 
contemplating what to do. Because I have received a few questions about 
this, here is a little information about hotels.


First of all, the location of the conference is the Ibis hotel, 
Meistraat 9 in Antwerp, Belgium. A room in this hotel costs 
approximately 90 euro. More info about the hotel is available here 
http://tinyurl.com/za4o9ou


If you want a little more luxury, you might prefer the Leonardo hotel, 
which is close enough to the conference location to go there on foot. 
The price difference between the hotels is very small.

More info: http://leonardo-antwerpen.hotels-antwerpen.net/nl/#rooms

Please note: registration for the conference closes tomorrow. Please, 
make sure to register on time. Tickets are still available at

http://economy-x-talk.com/conf/

If you prefer not to use PayPal or a credit card to book your conference 
ticket, just contact me and we'll try to find an alternative that works 
for you.


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[ANN] About the conference in Antwerp

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Hello,

Next week is the 'eHUG International Mini Conference on LiveCode'. The 
conference will take place on 25th February from 13:00h. until 18:00h. 
The conference room is open from 12:00h. The location is the Ibis hotel, 
Meistraat 39 in Antwerp, Belgium.


Participation is only possible if you purchase a ticket no later than 
22nd February. The tickets will be sent to you later this week. There 
are 20 tickets available. If you want to be sure of a ticket, you'll 
need to act quickly.


The prices of the tickets are listed on the website. Additionally, 
non-alcoholic beverages are available for 6 euro per person. Coffee and 
tea are available from a dispenser (for which my apologies). If any 
budget is left, it will be spent on additional drinks or perhaps on 
dinner afterwards.


Everything we need is available: WIFI, a beamer with VGA connection, 
electricity, at least one extra laptop, drinks, etc. If you have any 
special requests, just let me know.


We need more speakers! You can tell something about your own project, 
private or professional, for which you have created a liveCode stack. If 
you use a different platform, such as SuperCard, Filemaker, HyperStudio 
or Xojo, you're very welcome to tell us about it.


Do you think you're not so good at making presentations? Organise a 
workshop instead! Just show us how you work with your favorite tool and 
if you like, or if you can, invite your public to join.


Please indicate that you're a speaker when you buy a ticket. You will 
receive a discount. A discount is also available if you buy the book 
Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner.


After the formal part of the conference, we may have dinner together. 
The next day, we might have a social event before going home. We will 
organise this on the spot.


I hope to have informed you sufficiently. Just send me an e-mail 
right-away if you have any questions and I'll reply as soon as I can.


More information at http://economy-x-talk.com/conf

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[ANN] A quick note about the conference

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Hi,

The eHUG International Mini Conference on LiveCode will take place on 
25th February between 13:00 and 18:00 at the Ibis hotel in the city 
centre of Antwerp. Address: Meistraat 39, Antwerp, Belgium.


Reasonably prices rooms are still available. Book those on the Ibis website.

More information is available at http://economy-x-talk.com/conf
Keep an eye on the website as we're updating.

After the conference, we'll go somewhere for dinner and socialising. We 
might also arrange something for the next day.


More info will follow soon.

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Re: International LiveCode Mini Conference

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

The LiveCode conference in Antwerp will take place on 25th February
2017. Please, reserve the date in your agenda. More information will
follow shortly.


Kind regards,

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http://economy-x-talk.com
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Op 09-Jan-17 om 13:36 schreef Mark Schonewille via use-livecode:

International LiveCode Mini Conference

In the second half of February, an international LiveCode Mini
Conference has been scheduled. The dates are still to be determined.
The conference has been planned to take place during the weekends of
18 or 25 February.

While the conference is called a "LiveCode" conference, it should be
clear that anyone with an interest in rapid application development
is invited: database admins, Filemaker users, Xojo fans, SuperCard
aficionados, and anyone who is looking for new ways to be creative
with computers.

All information is preliminary. As the date of the conference
approaches, we will have all information available.

The conference will consist of one day with multiple sessions. We're
planning simultaneous workshops and presentations. We're thinking of
four times two simultaneous sessions of 30 minutes. Afterwards, there
will be plenty of opportunity to meet with fellow programmers and
discuss any topic you like.

The conference will be held in Antwerp, Belgium, to facilitate
participation by British, French and German people. Obviously, you're
also invited if you live in a different country.

We're planning to rent a small conference room. Therefore, there will
be a small fee of approximately 35 euro (including VAT, with
invoice).  If you want to host a workshop or give a presentation,
you'll be eligible for a discount. Since fees are small, discounts
will be small too.

Possible topics: - Getting started with LiveCode - Advanced LiveCode
scripting - Widgets - Arduino and Raspberry Pi - Usage in real life
(home and business) - DBMS (MySQL, PostGreSQL, XML, others) -
FileMaker - SuperCard - HyperStudio - Xojo - PHP - other subjects

You might want to spend one or two nights in a hotel. We'll be happy
to help you find board and lodgings. The hotel room, drinks, food and
other expenses will be on your own account.

We would like to know how many people are interested. Please, send a
reply before Friday 13th if you're interested (you can reply to my
personal address, in the "reply-to" header, please don't reply to the
mailing list). Next weekend, all decisions will be made final.

This might be the only edition of this conference! Grab the
opportunity and make sure you're there! It is going to be special for
sure!

-- Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter:
http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553

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Re: [ANN] Important: reply before friday - conference!

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

We really need 4 or 5 more participants to make the conference possible. 
If you are planning to go, let me know! If you know someone else who 
might go, ask him or her to send me a message.


Kind regards,

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http://economy-x-talk.com
https://www.facebook.com/marksch

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Op 12-Jan-17 om 00:42 schreef Mark Schonewille:

International LiveCode Mini Conference

- Time and date are still preliminary!
- Make sure to send a message to me on Friday or earlier if you're
interested!
- decisions are made over the weekend, depending on feedback!

In the second half of February, an international LiveCode Mini
Conference has been scheduled. The dates are still to be determined. The
conference has been planned to take place during the weekends of 18 or
25 February.

PLEASE NOTE: While the conference is called a "LiveCode" conference,
anyone with an interest in rapid application development is invited:
database admins, Filemaker users, Xojo fans, SuperCard aficionados, and
anyone who is looking for new ways to be creative with computers.

All information is preliminary. As the date of the conference
approaches, we will have all information available.

The conference will consist of one day with multiple sessions. We're
planning simultaneous workshops and presentations. We're thinking of
four times two simultaneous sessions of 30 minutes. Afterwards, there
will be plenty of opportunity to meet with fellow programmers and
discuss any topic you like.

The conference will be held in Antwerp, Belgium, to facilitate
participation by British, French and German people. Obviously, you're
also invited if you live in a different country.

We're planning to rent a conference room. Therefore, there will be a
small fee of approximately 35 euro (including VAT, with invoice).  If
you want to host a workshop or give a presentation, you'll be eligible
for a discount. Since fees are small, discounts will be small too.

Possible topics:
- Getting started with LiveCode
- Advanced LiveCode scripting
- Widgets
- Arduino and Raspberry Pi
- Usage in real life (home and business)
- DBMS (MySQL, PostGreSQL, XML, others)
- FileMaker
- SuperCard
- HyperStudio
- Xojo
- PHP
- other subjects

You might want to spend one or two nights in a hotel. We'll be happy to
help you find board and lodgings. The hotel room, drinks, food and other
expenses will be on your own account.

We would like to know how many people are interested. Please, send a
reply to support (at) economy-x-talk.com before Friday 13th if you're
interested. This weekend, all decisions will be made final.

This might be the only edition of this conference! Grab the opportunity
and make sure you're there! It is going to be special for sure!



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[ANN] Important: reply before friday - conference!

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

International LiveCode Mini Conference

- Time and date are still preliminary!
- Make sure to send a message to me on Friday or earlier if you're 
interested!

- decisions are made over the weekend, depending on feedback!

In the second half of February, an international LiveCode Mini 
Conference has been scheduled. The dates are still to be determined. The 
conference has been planned to take place during the weekends of 18 or 
25 February.


PLEASE NOTE: While the conference is called a "LiveCode" conference, 
anyone with an interest in rapid application development is invited: 
database admins, Filemaker users, Xojo fans, SuperCard aficionados, and 
anyone who is looking for new ways to be creative with computers.


All information is preliminary. As the date of the conference 
approaches, we will have all information available.


The conference will consist of one day with multiple sessions. We're 
planning simultaneous workshops and presentations. We're thinking of 
four times two simultaneous sessions of 30 minutes. Afterwards, there 
will be plenty of opportunity to meet with fellow programmers and 
discuss any topic you like.


The conference will be held in Antwerp, Belgium, to facilitate 
participation by British, French and German people. Obviously, you're 
also invited if you live in a different country.


We're planning to rent a conference room. Therefore, there will be a 
small fee of approximately 35 euro (including VAT, with invoice).  If 
you want to host a workshop or give a presentation, you'll be eligible 
for a discount. Since fees are small, discounts will be small too.


Possible topics:
- Getting started with LiveCode
- Advanced LiveCode scripting
- Widgets
- Arduino and Raspberry Pi
- Usage in real life (home and business)
- DBMS (MySQL, PostGreSQL, XML, others)
- FileMaker
- SuperCard
- HyperStudio
- Xojo
- PHP
- other subjects

You might want to spend one or two nights in a hotel. We'll be happy to 
help you find board and lodgings. The hotel room, drinks, food and other 
expenses will be on your own account.


We would like to know how many people are interested. Please, send a 
reply to support (at) economy-x-talk.com before Friday 13th if you're 
interested. This weekend, all decisions will be made final.


This might be the only edition of this conference! Grab the opportunity 
and make sure you're there! It is going to be special for sure!


--
Kind regards,

Mark Schonewille
http://economy-x-talk.com
https://www.facebook.com/marksch

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Re: International LiveCode Mini Conference

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Probably not. It is just too much work to organise. Perhaps someone else 
wants to take up the challenge, but for now I'd say you'll have to be there.


Kind regards,

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Op 09-Jan-17 om 19:26 schreef ** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode:

I hope that this will recorded and that any recordings would be made
available to the rest of the LiveCoders.

Sincerely,

Clarence Martin
Email: chi...@themartinz.com
Cell: 626 6965561

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Of Mark Schonewille via use-livecode
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Subject: International LiveCode Mini Conference

International LiveCode Mini Conference

In the second half of February, an international LiveCode Mini Conference
has been scheduled. The dates are still to be determined. The conference has
been planned to take place during the weekends of 18 or 25 February.

While the conference is called a "LiveCode" conference, it should be clear
that anyone with an interest in rapid application development is invited:
database admins, Filemaker users, Xojo fans, SuperCard aficionados, and
anyone who is looking for new ways to be creative with computers.

All information is preliminary. As the date of the conference approaches, we
will have all information available.

The conference will consist of one day with multiple sessions. We're
planning simultaneous workshops and presentations. We're thinking of four
times two simultaneous sessions of 30 minutes. Afterwards, there will be
plenty of opportunity to meet with fellow programmers and discuss any topic
you like.

The conference will be held in Antwerp, Belgium, to facilitate participation
by British, French and German people. Obviously, you're also invited if you
live in a different country.

We're planning to rent a small conference room. Therefore, there will be a
small fee of approximately 35 euro (including VAT, with invoice).  If you
want to host a workshop or give a presentation, you'll be eligible for a
discount. Since fees are small, discounts will be small too.

Possible topics:
- Getting started with LiveCode
- Advanced LiveCode scripting
- Widgets
- Arduino and Raspberry Pi
- Usage in real life (home and business)
- DBMS (MySQL, PostGreSQL, XML, others)
- FileMaker
- SuperCard
- HyperStudio
- Xojo
- PHP
- other subjects

You might want to spend one or two nights in a hotel. We'll be happy to help
you find board and lodgings. The hotel room, drinks, food and other expenses
will be on your own account.

We would like to know how many people are interested. Please, send a reply
before Friday 13th if you're interested (you can reply to my personal
address, in the "reply-to" header, please don't reply to the mailing list).
Next weekend, all decisions will be made final.

This might be the only edition of this conference! Grab the opportunity and
make sure you're there! It is going to be special for sure!

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

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International LiveCode Mini Conference

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

International LiveCode Mini Conference

In the second half of February, an international LiveCode Mini Conference has 
been scheduled. The dates are still to be determined. The conference has been 
planned to take place during the weekends of 18 or 25 February.

While the conference is called a "LiveCode" conference, it should be clear that 
anyone with an interest in rapid application development is invited: database 
admins, Filemaker users, Xojo fans, SuperCard aficionados, and anyone who is 
looking for new ways to be creative with computers.

All information is preliminary. As the date of the conference approaches, we 
will have all information available. 

The conference will consist of one day with multiple sessions. We're planning 
simultaneous workshops and presentations. We're thinking of four times two 
simultaneous sessions of 30 minutes. Afterwards, there will be plenty of 
opportunity to meet with fellow programmers and discuss any topic you like.

The conference will be held in Antwerp, Belgium, to facilitate participation by 
British, French and German people. Obviously, you're also invited if you live 
in a different country.

We're planning to rent a small conference room. Therefore, there will be a 
small fee of approximately 35 euro (including VAT, with invoice).  If you want 
to host a workshop or give a presentation, you'll be eligible for a discount. 
Since fees are small, discounts will be small too. 

Possible topics:
- Getting started with LiveCode
- Advanced LiveCode scripting
- Widgets
- Arduino and Raspberry Pi
- Usage in real life (home and business)
- DBMS (MySQL, PostGreSQL, XML, others)
- FileMaker
- SuperCard
- HyperStudio
- Xojo
- PHP
- other subjects

You might want to spend one or two nights in a hotel. We'll be happy to help 
you find board and lodgings. The hotel room, drinks, food and other expenses 
will be on your own account.

We would like to know how many people are interested. Please, send a reply 
before Friday 13th if you're interested (you can reply to my personal address, 
in the "reply-to" header, please don't reply to the mailing list). Next 
weekend, all decisions will be made final.

This might be the only edition of this conference! Grab the opportunity and 
make sure you're there! It is going to be special for sure!

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

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Re: Subject - LiveCode - I'm not a very happy Bunny

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

I saw this and had to think of your post, Tom.

http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-01-08

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Op 06-Jan-17 om 23:17 schreef Tom Glod via use-livecode:

gotta say... looking at livecode.com it  is very clear that livecode is
nearly hoping that people won't notice that there is an open source version
and buy a license because they didn't know any better.

shadyshady.. almost understandable, but why go open source if you
gonna pretend like you aren't?

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Keith Martin <thatke...@mac.com> wrote:


On 4 Jan 2017, at 14:11, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

What this message should tell the people on the mother-ship is that they

need to shout a bit louder
about the Open Source version



Amen! The FOSS, Community edition is a great thing, and it's

It'd also be great if the mother ship would also consider, one day, a more
inexpensive way to step up to the level where App Store submission is
possible, perhaps as a short-term (say, 1 month?) window, bundled with
advice for efficient App Store submission? Perhaps something similar for
HTML5 publication in the future? LC is wonderful, but it is feeling more
and more like a product with a 'keep out, professionals only' label on the
virtual box... :-/

Me, I'd SO glad I got Indy in time to keep annual cost just about
affordable. I make peanuts (at most!) from what I build, but that's not the
point for me; it's just too much fun not to be part of the LC builder
community. I did once hope HTML5 would be available as part of that, but
sadly it's separate. :(

k

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Re: A bug but is there a workaround?

[Mark Schonewille]

Have you tried to set the formatForPrinting of your stack to true?

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Op 24-Dec-16 om 00:38 schreef Charles Szasz:

I have a script for moving text from a text field to my app to a print card.  
The text at the end of the first sentence runs into the beginning of text of 
the second sentence when printing on Windows on LiveCode 6.1.3

I send the following problem to LC tech support and I got a message this is a 
bug and they believe that there is a workaround but they don’t recall what the 
workaround.

Here is my script for moving text from a text field to a print stack:

set the spaceAbove of line 1 of field "C4" of card "page 4" of stack "Report" 
to 28
set the spaceAbove of line 1 of field "C5" of card "page 4" of stack "Report" 
to 28

put field "c1" into field "C1" of card "page 4" of stack "Report"
put field "c2" into field "C2" of card "page 4" of stack "Report"
put field "c3" into field "C3" of card "page 4" of stack "Report"
put field "c4" into field "C4" of card "page 4" of stack "Report"
put field "c5" into field "C5" of card "page 4" of stack "Report"
put field "c7" into field "C7" of card "page 4" of stack "Report"

Does anyone have a workaround for LC 6.1.3 to fix my problem?

Charles Szasz
csz...@me.com




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Re: no answer, nobody any experience in printing images on windows?

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Ton,

I import a picture as control, type "print this cd" in the message box 
while my PDF printer driver has been set to default and I get a PDF file 
with a correct picture. Perhaps you try the same and see what kind of 
result you get.


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Op 21-Dec-16 om 17:01 schreef Ton Kuypers:

When printing from a standalone app, all images print as black boxes, when 
testing in the IDE on Mac it works fine…

Anyone any tips?


Met vriendelijke groeten,
Warm Regards,



Ton Kuypers
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Re: AW: AW: Installer software

[Mark Schonewille]

Interesting discussion here. It is possible to make an 8GB app bundle, 
since the files inside the bundle are still individual files. It isn't a 
good idea to include 8GB of videos in a stack. I wouldn't include all 
8GB of files in one installer, since the installer is basically one big 
stack (which runs completely indepenently of any other files). I would 
put the files in a separate folder on the dmg and write a script that 
copies the files from the folder to the preferred destination. Such a 
script could be started from Installer Maker.


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Op 09-Dec-16 om 10:54 schreef Tiemo Hollmann TB:

Hi Peter,
thats interesting. Right now, I pack the 2 video files (total 8 GB) in
10 zip files on DVD and store them when installing in a users choice
location on HD. I would have never thought it would be a good idea to create
one big  8GB app bundle. Do you think this would be a good idea? Wouldn't
this affect the loading time and memory requirement of the app? I always
thought that if you start an app, the whole bundle is loaded into memory.

Tiemo

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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von Peter TB Brett
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Dezember 2016 10:42
An: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
Betreff: Re: AW: Installer software



On 09/12/2016 08:17, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:


the main reason for me to use installer maker is the feature, to call
a program after the installer has finished (which makes a second part
of installation, extraction and copying 2 videos from 10 zip
files). I don't know, how I could realize this with the classic "drag
and drop from DMG" paradigm.


Hi Tiemo,

Don't forget that .DMG files are already compressed.  I would normally
recommend simply shipping your 2 videos as separate files within your
app bundle.

   Peter



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Re: Non-Public API Usage

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Pink,

If you are using the names _getcontext, _makecontext and _setcontext for 
your handlers in your scripts, just change the names and make sure they 
are nowhere mentioned in your app. If you didn't use these handler 
names, report it as a bug to the QCC.


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Op 04-Dec-16 om 01:03 schreef pink:

I compiled and submitted an app using iTunes Connect. I received the
following rejection message.

I compiled using Livecode 8.1.2 rc2, I have Xcode 8.1 installed. I tried
recompiling a few times and got the same results each time.

How do I fix this?

Dear developer,

We have discovered one or more issues with your recent delivery for
"PlanningBoard 2". To process your delivery, the following issues must be
corrected:

Non-public API usage:

The app references non-public symbols in MadPink Planning Board:
_getcontext, _makecontext, _setcontext
If method names in your source code match the private Apple APIs listed
above, altering your method names will help prevent this app from being
flagged in future submissions. In addition, note that one or more of the
above APIs may be located in a static library that was included with your
app. If so, they must be removed.

If you think this message was sent in error and that you have only used
Apple-published APIs in accordance with the guidelines, send the app's
nine-digit Apple ID, along with detailed information about why you believe
the above APIs were incorrectly flagged, to apprev...@apple.com. For further
information, visit the Technical Support Information page.

Though you are not required to fix the following issues, we wanted to make
you aware of them:

Missing Push Notification Entitlement - Your app includes an API for Apple's
Push Notification service, but the aps-environment entitlement is missing
from the app's signature. To resolve this, make sure your App ID is enabled
for push notification in the Provisioning Portal. Then, sign your app with a
distribution provisioning profile that includes the aps-environment
entitlement. This will create the correct signature, and you can resubmit
your app. See "Provisioning and Development" in the Local and Push
Notification Programming Guide for more information. If your app does not
use the Apple Push Notification service, no action is required. You may
remove the API from future submissions to stop this warning. If you use a
third-party framework, you may need to contact the developer for information
on removing the API.

Once the required corrections have been made, you can then redeliver the
corrected binary.

Regards,

The App Store team




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Re: My own productivity app

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Terry,

It used to be possible to get the front-most app with AppleScript. Due 
to sandboxing, this may no longer apply, but perhaps signing the app (or 
turning off Gate Keeper) will allow this again?


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Op 30-Nov-16 om 09:17 schreef Terry Vogelaar:

Thank you, Jacqueline and Mike, for your responses.

Jacqueline wrote that LC provides no feedback when it isn't the frontmost app. 
But is there a way to use MacOS's Notification Center from within LiveCode to 
tell me things like that?

Mike's solution using a timed loop seems to do the trick to add the MacBreakZ 
functionality. So the app and site blocking functionality is the only thing 
that is hard to implement. But for that, I could use (hey)Focus; this app is 
the least intrusive of the three I mentioned. So I could make my own 
Pomodoro-timer with a ToDo-list and the MacBreakZ-functionality, and let 
(hey)Focus do the site/app blocking.

Heck, key logging, site blocking, disabling of other apps… It sounds like I'm 
brewing up something evil. (But I'm not.)

Thanks for the help.


With kind regards,
Terry Vogelaar



The only way I know of to monitor keystrokes/mouse events is with a loop. Check to 
see if keysdown() is empty, and "if the mouse is down.”  Certain things won't 
trigger the mouse is down such as grabbing a title bar and dragging it around (on 
windows)  but most other clicks will work fine.

For a simple test, I made a stack with a field and a button. the following code 
is in the button.
local sRunning

on mouseUp
if sRunning is empty then put false into sRunning
put not sRunning into sRunning
loopit
end mouseUp

command loopit
if sRunning then
  if the keysdown is not empty then
 put keysdown() into field 1
  else
 put empty into field 1
  end if
  if the mouse is down then
 set the backgroundcolor of field 1 to red
  else
 set the backgroundcolor of field 1 to empty
  end if
  send loopit to me in 100 millisec
end if
end loopit

Placing the window where its visible but not focused and work with another 
program.  Every click the field turns red, every keypress and the keys that are 
down show up in the field.  With a delay of 100 seconds its possible to miss an 
event, but if a person were actually working actively most keypresses and 
clicks will be caught.  It should be possible to use either applescript or 
vbscript to note what window is focused, though im not sure how to tell if one 
is working in a facebook tab or not.


The problem I see here is that LC has no knowledge of what other apps are in 
use, and provides no feedback when it isn't the frontmost app. There may be 
shell calls you could use to get some of the information, but I kind of doubt 
there's a way to monitor keystrokes and that sort of thing.


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Re: Read from file

[Mark Schonewille]

This could be a number of strings, such as "file not open for read" or 
"file does not exist". There is no special string that indicates a 
particular error, e.g. the errors don't all start with "error". You have 
to check that the error is unexpected and doesn't contains "eof".


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Op 30-Nov-16 om 01:12 schreef Peter Bogdanoff:

When I use:

read from file tURL until eof

to read from a file on disk, should I expect the  to always contain 
“eof”?

I’m suspecting there could be a a file read error while reading thousands of 
files and I want to catch that.What should I expect to see in the result when 
that happens?

Peter Bogdanoff
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Re: Serving Videos with LC/iRev

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Rick,

That third party must have an API for it. If not, you need to change the 
vendor. I can't be that e.g. Apple sells music, while everybody is able 
to download the content once it has been bought by one person. Can you 
tell the name of that third party?


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Op 27-Nov-16 om 03:44 schreef Rick Harrison:

Hi Mark,

That sounds good except that the user is purchasing from me through a third 
party
and I have no good way of validating.  I can attach a number to the URL but that
same number will be on every unit purchased and visible to the user.  I can’t 
make
it unique for every unit purchased.  That’s why I’d rather jump a couple of 
URL’s and
have the last one hidden or unknown to the user.

Other ideas?

Thanks,

Rick


On Nov 26, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Mark Schonewille 
<m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:

Instead of hiding the URL, you could write a script that creates a key 
depending on user credentials and a unique number, say the time, and add it to 
the URL. The code should follow some some rules, e.g. the last part of the code 
could be a hash. Encrypt the information in your app and decrypt it on the 
server. If the user credentials are correct and the unique code is correct and 
hasn't been used yet, send the video, and reject the request otherwise.

Kind regards,

Mark Schonewille
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Re: Serving Videos with LC/iRev

[Mark Schonewille]

Instead of hiding the URL, you could write a script that creates a key 
depending on user credentials and a unique number, say the time, and add 
it to the URL. The code should follow some some rules, e.g. the last 
part of the code could be a hash. Encrypt the information in your app 
and decrypt it on the server. If the user credentials are correct and 
the unique code is correct and hasn't been used yet, send the video, and 
reject the request otherwise.


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Op 27-Nov-16 om 01:48 schreef Rick Harrison:

Hi there,

I have a video I want to serve from
an LC/iRev Server.  I want to do it
from within an iRev script on the
LC Server so that the URL of the
video is hidden in the code from the
user if possible.

Basically I want people who pay me to
see my video to be able to view my
video, but I don’t want them to be
able to easily find the URL, by looking
at the source code, and start giving it
out to their friends for free.

Suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

Rick



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[ANN] Order Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner now!

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi coders,

In one month, it will be Christmas again. During this time, we are often 
told that shipments are urgent. If you want to have your copy of the 
book before the holidays, don't wait but order it now. Any orders placed 
until Monday 28th November will be sent on Wednesday 30st November. This 
should give the shipping companies sufficient time to deliver the book 
to your door.


We're currently at the fourth print run of my book Programming LiveCode 
for the Real Beginner. When the third print run was sold out, we decided 
to print a large stock of books, so we have plenty of copies available 
for immediate delivery.


The fourth print of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner has been 
updated to include a number of new XML commands, which were introduced 
after the first release of the book. I have also added a few remarks 
about LiveCode 7 to the chapter on Unicode.


Quite a few new features have been added to LiveCode 7 and 8, but it 
looks like the examples in the book are still fully compatible with 
LiveCode 8. Keep in mind, though, that the book is for beginners and 
focuses on the basics of the LiveCode language.


You can order the book at http://tinyurl.com/livecodebook and more info 
is available at http://tinyurl.com/livecodeblog


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Re: Shell Command and cURL

[Mark Schonewille]

It doesn't make sense to create a list of 14-something files and try 
to paste it somewhere. Instead, write a shell script that gets the file 
list and download all files in the list.


Your script might look like this:

#!/bin/bash
$ curl -s ftp://user:pass@IP/path/to/folder/ | \
grep -e '^-' | awk '{ print $9 }' | \
while read f; do \
curl -O ftp://user:pass@IP/path/to/folder/$f; \
done

Save the script in a text file and do a chmod 755 on it to make an 
executable file. Now let LiveCode launch the executable file. I think 
the files will be downloaded to the defaultFolder or perhaps to the 
location of the executable file .


If this is too much trouble, you might also save your current shell 
command to a file and have LiveCode launch it.


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Op 22-Nov-16 om 23:29 schreef Gregory Lypny:

Hello everyone,

I have never used LiveCode’s Shell command, and I was hoping that someone on 
the forum might be able to give me an example of how to use it with cURL to 
download a list of files from an FTP site. I have been using cURL to download 
many files at a time from a given directory by pasting the code into Terminal 
in OS X. The problem is that Terminal cannot handle a command that is too long. 
This limits me to pasting no more than about 500 file paths at a time, but I 
need to download about 145,000 files. That’s a fair bit of manual pasting. So 
if someone could give me an example of using the Shell command with cURL, I’d 
be much obliged.

Regards,

Gregory
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Re: OT non LC: cross tab/window browser communication

[Mark Schonewille]

This is strange and very insecure. You should let the tab load and 
redirect to the PayPal page after the tab has finished doing everything 
it should do.


I had a similar problem though. I needed a page to give PayPal time to 
process a transaction. I did this with a fake progress bar, which waited 
1 minute and then reloaded the page. If the transaction has been 
completed, I sent the license, but if the transaction hadn't been 
completed, I showed a message saying that the license would be delivered 
manually at a later time after additional checks had been performed.


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Op 22-Nov-16 om 21:02 schreef Mike Bonner:

I have a problem I need to solve with a web page i've set up.. On my page
(my domain) I have forms that submit to an external domain (paypal) and
open a new named tab on submission.  I need to be able to block further
actions until the paypal page load is complete.  Currently, I have simply
set up a timer with an overlay and visual feedback letting the user know
that "stuff is being done,"  but since the response time from paypal can
vary greatly, I'm hoping there is a way to know when the tab has completed
loading, with a backup "max time" so that if the paypal load barfs, page
functionality is still returned.

Is this sort of thing possible?  I've researched, but if it can be done
apparently my search terms aren't the correct ones.

Thanks in advance for any help.  I'm afraid javascript (other than very
basic stuff) is not one of my strengths.
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Re: LiveCode Meeting - arrival

[Mark Schonewille]

Beste deelnemers,

In verband met het reisschema van de spoorwegen zal ik kort na de afgesproken 
tijd arriveren.

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Op 14 okt. 2016 om 02:14 heeft Mark Schonewille 
<m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> het volgende geschreven:

> LiveCode-bijeenkomst
> 
> Aanstaande zondag 16 oktober organiseert eHUG een LiveCode-meeting (tevens 
> voor eenieder geÔnteresseerd in SuperCard, Xojo, HyperStudio and zelfs 
> HyperCard). Toegang is gratis, maar consumpties zijn voor eigen rekening.
> 
> 
> Agenda
> 
> De bijeenkomst zal informeel van karakter zijn. Er staan enkele punten op de 
> agenda, maar de agenda is vooralsnog incompleet. Het volgende zal, in 
> willekeurige volgorde, aan bod komen:
> 
> LiveCode 8
> SuperCard 4.8
> Arduino / HyperDuino
> Verloting van HyperStudio-licentie
> Verloting van boek Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner
> Verloting van 50% korting op LiveCode
> De volgende meeting in Antwerpen
> Projecten van deelnemers
> Widgets
> 
> We hopen nog meer aan te kunnen bieden, maar daar wordt nog aan gewerkt. 
> 
> Belangrijk: eigen inbreng van de deelnemers maakt de bijeenkomst veel 
> interessanter! Neem je eigen project mee en laat het zien! Laat 
> ondergetekende per e-mail even weten hoeveel tijd je nodig hebt (alles tussen 
> 5 en 30 minuten is mogelijk). 
> 
> 
> Locatie
> 
> De bijeenkomst wordt gehouden in de lobby van het NH Hotel in Utrecht. Het 
> adres is:
> 
> Jaarbeursplein 24
> 3521 AR Utrecht

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[ANN] Reminder - LiveCode Meeting

[Mark Schonewille]

Hello,

Please don't forget: later today at 13:00u., we will have a LiveCode
meeting in Utrecht, the Netherlands. See the quoted message below for
details.

Vergeet niet dat er later vandaag om 13:00u., in Utrecht een
LiveCode-bijeenkomst gehouden wordt. Zie het bijgevoegde bericht
hieronder voor de details.

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Op 14-Oct-16 om 02:14 schreef Mark Schonewille:

LiveCode-bijeenkomst

Aanstaande zondag 16 oktober organiseert eHUG een LiveCode-meeting
(tevens voor eenieder geÔnteresseerd in SuperCard, Xojo, HyperStudio
and zelfs HyperCard). Toegang is gratis, maar consumpties zijn voor
eigen rekening.


Agenda

De bijeenkomst zal informeel van karakter zijn. Er staan enkele
punten op de agenda, maar de agenda is vooralsnog incompleet. Het
volgende zal, in willekeurige volgorde, aan bod komen:

LiveCode 8 SuperCard 4.8 Arduino / HyperDuino Verloting van
HyperStudio-licentie Verloting van boek Programming LiveCode for the
Real Beginner Verloting van 50% korting op LiveCode De volgende
meeting in Antwerpen Projecten van deelnemers Widgets

We hopen nog meer aan te kunnen bieden, maar daar wordt nog aan
gewerkt.

Belangrijk: eigen inbreng van de deelnemers maakt de bijeenkomst veel
interessanter! Neem je eigen project mee en laat het zien! Laat
ondergetekende per e-mail even weten hoeveel tijd je nodig hebt
(alles tussen 5 en 30 minuten is mogelijk).


Locatie

De bijeenkomst wordt gehouden in de lobby van het NH Hotel in
Utrecht. Het adres is:

Jaarbeursplein 24 3521 AR Utrecht The Netherlands

Het hotel ligt op loopafstand van het centraal station van Utrecht
zoals je op deze kaart kunt zien: https://goo.gl/maps/WBDSG

De bijeenkomst begint om ongeveer 13:00u. en is uiterlijk 17:00u.
afgelopen. Het is mogelijk om na de bijeenkomst nog even iets te gaan
eten in het gezellige centrum van Utrecht.


Meer info

Wil je op de hoogte blijven van activiteiten rond xTalk en LiveCode?
Stuur mij een e-mailtje en ik zet je op de lijst.

Je kunt mij ook op Twitter volgen. Mijn persoonlijke account is
@xtalkprogrammer en als je op de hoogte wilt blijven van
computernieuws volg me dan op @MoreNewz.

Je kunt me tevens op Facebook vinden op het adres
https://www.facebook.com/marksch en je kunt lid worden van de
LiveCode Facebook groep op https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/

Heb je op het laatste moment nog vragen? Je kunt mij bereiken op
Skype via xtalkprogrammer en als je mijn telefoonnummer hebt, kun je
mij een berichtje sturen op Whatsapp of Viber.

Lees meer over het boek Programming for the Real Beginner op
http://tinyurl.com/livecodebook

Je kunt alles over HyperStudio lezen op http://www.hyperstudio.com
en we raden je zeker aan om ook http://www.hyperduino.com te bezoeken
aangezien dit een geweldig gadget is voor je Arduino Uno board.

De SuperCard website kun je vinden op http://www.supercard.us en je
kunt meer over Xojo vinden op http://www.xojo.com. Om de lijst
compleet te maken, vermelden we nog even de website van LiveCode:
http://www.livecode.com



LiveCode Meeting

This Sunday 16th October, eHUG organises a LiveCode meeting (also for
anyone who might be interested in SuperCard, Xojo, HyperStudio and
even HyperCard). Entrance is free but drinks are on your own
account.


Schedule

The meeting will be informal. There are a number of items on the
agenda, but for now the schedule is incomplete. The following
subjects will be included in our program:

LiveCode 8 SuperCard 4.8 Arduino / HyperDuino Raffle of a HyperStudio
license Raffle of the book Programming for the Real Beginner Raffle
of a 50% discount on LiveCode Next meeting in Antwerp Projects of
participants Widgets

We hope to have more on offer soon, but we're still working on that.

Important: own contributions by participants make the meeting much
more interesting! Bring your own project and show it! Please tell me
how much time you need (anything between 5 and 30 minutes goes).


Location

The meeting is in the lobby of the NH Hotel in Utrecht, the
Netherands. The address is:

Jaarbeursplein 24 3521 AR Utrecht The Netherlands

The hotel is within walking distance from the Utrecht Central
Station, as you can see on this map: https://goo.gl/maps/WBDSG

The meeting starts at approximately 13:00h. and finishes before
17:00h. It is possible to have a nice dinner in the centre of Utrecht
afterwards.


More info

Do you want to stay informed about activities about xTalk and
LiveCode? Send me an e-mail with your request and I'll add you to the
list.

You can follow me on Twitter. My personal account is @xtalkprogrammer
and if you want to get news about tech and computers you can follow
@MoreNewz.

You can also find me on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/marksch
and there is a LiveCode Facebook group at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/

Do you have any question

LiveCode Meeting

[Mark Schonewille]

://www.supercard.us and more about Xojo can be 
fount at http://www.xojo.com. To make the list complete, here is the LiveCode 
website http://www.livecode.com 

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Re: LiveCode meeting

[Mark Schonewille]

At least one person will travel to the Netherlands. If you want to be there 
too, you're welcome. Let me know if you need help finding a hotel.

I have no plans for a web stream, but you never know. 

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Op 8 okt. 2016 om 18:08 heeft Colin Holgate <colinholg...@gmail.com> het 
volgende geschreven:

> When you say this, do you mean you will have a web stream, or are you 
> thinking that foreign participants would fly to Utrecht that day?
> 
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 7:44 AM, Mark Schonewille 
>> <m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Sunday 16th October I will organise a meeting somewhere in the Netherlands 
>> (Tilburg or Utrecht. I know it is on short notice, but by oganising it on 
>> this date, we make it possible for a foreign participant to be present at 
>> the meeting. I hope you will be able to attent the meeting on this day.
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LiveCode meeting

[Mark Schonewille]

Beste dames en heren,

Op zondag 16 oktober organiseren we een LiveCode meeting ergens in 
Nederland (Tilburg of Utrecht). Het is een beetje kortdag, maar deze 
datum maakt het voor een buitenlandse deelnemer mogelijk om aanwezig te 
zijn. Ik hoop dat jullie op deze dag aanwezig kunnen zijn.


Het wordt een informele bijeenkomst van enkele uren. Tot de mogelijke 
onderwerpen behoren: LiveCode 8, widgets, Valentina, SuperCard 4.8, 
Arduino, de nieuwe HyperDuino, en HyperStudio. Daarnaast nodigen we je 
graag uit om iets over je eigen project(en) te vertellen of vragen te 
stellen aan collega-LiveCoders.


Voorts verloten we een licentie van HyperStudio en een exemplaar van het 
boek Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner.


Er bestaat ook nog een plan om de volgende meeting in februari of maart 
in Antwerpen te houden.  Hierover zal tijdens de eerstvolgende meeting 
overleg plaatsvinden. Wil je meebeslissen, zorg dan dat je erbij bent.


Ik zal binnen enkele dagen nog een e-mailtje sturen aan eenieder die op 
mijn lijstje staat. Ik hoop later in de week met meer nieuws te komen.




Dear ladies and gentlemen,

Sunday 16th October I will organise a meeting somewhere in the 
Netherlands (Tilburg or Utrecht. I know it is on short notice, but by 
oganising it on this date, we make it possible for a foreign participant 
to be present at the meeting. I hope you will be able to attent the 
meeting on this day.


The meeting will be informal and take several hours. Possible subjects 
are: LiveCode 8, widgets, SuperCard 4.8, Arduino, de new HyperDuino, and 
HyperStudio. You are also invited to tell something about your own 
project(s) or to ask your fellow-LiveCoders a number of questions.


Additionally we raffle off a licence of HyperStudio and a copy of the 
book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner.


Moreover there is a plan to organise a meeting in february or march in 
Antwerp (Belgium). We will talk about this at the first next meeting. 
Make sure you're there, if you would like to be involved in any decisions.


I'll send an e-mail to everyone on my list within a few days. Hopefully 
I'll be able to provide more news later this week.


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Re: Can we move the use-list to a Google Chat

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No.

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Op 30-Sep-16 om 21:53 schreef William Jamieson:

I was raised with a computer, with facebook for my friends and google as my
study guide. I don't really understand the use-list's format and have only
attempted to read it maybe 5 times in the 2 years I have been on it.

Forums are great but still remind me of my childhood and are generally used
for specific issues. I would really like a Slack thread that can be
indexed, but to ask people to move away from email might be a little too
technological for most.

As a person who wants to be involved with the community, and seeing that
the answers to a lot of problems and issues are contained in this massive,
unindexed, scattered, blob, of words that spans thousands of emails in my
inbox, I would like to make a plea to use any alternative that works.

I understand that the use-list is for the OG's but let me ask you, at what
cost is it acceptable? Even for the OG's, let me ask you, how many
solutions pointers to the problems you have had do you think are contained
within the history of the use-list? Can you pull them up quickly in an
organized fashion?


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Re: IDE puzzler...

[Mark Schonewille]

You can do this by handling the commandKey or controlKey message. Use a 
front script if necessary.


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Op 02-Sep-16 om 20:04 schreef Paul Dupuis:

So I just wasted an hour tracking down a sort of "problem" that was not
really a problem.

My desktop app has printing and selecting "Print..." from the File menu
of my app was doing the "right" think, but Comand/Control-P was not.

Sadly, it took me a whole hour to realize that the Command-P was being
passed to the IDE and invoking the IDE's File > Print Card... menu item,
which looked enough like a very old version of our printing code in this
case to make me think that tons of recent changes had someone "been undone".

So, problem solved in once sense in that when the Standalone gets built,
Command/Control-P will end up invoking my printer code, but the IDEs.

But, here is the puzzler, is there a way to tell the IDE to NOT handle
menu keyboard equivalents and send those keyboard commands to the
Applications menu so that all the functions of the App's menu can really
be tested in the IDE?

I could see nothing in Preferences.



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Re: Suicide

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Don't use "to me" but use the card or the stack that contains the control to be 
deleted.

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Op 27 aug. 2016 om 13:55 heeft Paul Dupuis <p...@researchware.com> het volgende 
geschreven:

> On 8/27/2016 7:27 AM, Richmond wrote:
>> on mouseUp
>>   delete me
>> end mouseUp
> 
> The engine can not delete an object whose script is currently executing.
> This has been a long know issue in LiveCode, but I am not sure it has
> been documented
> 
> In the Dictionary for "Delete" there is a warning: "Important!  You
> cannot delete the object whose script holds a currently executing
> handler." but no explaination of the typical work-around below.
> 
> on mouseUp
>  put the long id of me into tTarget
>  send "delete tTarget" to me in 0 ticks
> end mouseUp
> 
> So I guess you have to use "Assisted Suicide" since you need to send a
> message to the engine to delete the object after it's script is done.
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Re: looking for an alternative to KAGI, because KAGI ceased operations

[Mark Schonewille]

You're wrong, Matthias. Also, I never said that companies don't need to 
do (VAT) tax declarations. It is so easy to misunderstand these things!


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Op 02-Aug-16 om 14:17 schreef Matthias Rebbe:

Mark,

thanks for chiming in.


Am 02.08.2016 um 12:48 schrieb Mark Schonewille 
<m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com>:

Always the same misunderstandings about taxes. The new VAT rules don't apply to 
most people on this list, because they don't sell enough.


Sorry, i have to disagree. If your company is liable to tax on sales/purchases 
then you have to do VAT declarations, even if you just sell a digital product  
for 1 Euro.
You can decide if you do  the declarations with each EU country separately or 
if you do the declaration using MOSS. There is no lower sales limit which would 
allow to ignore this EU rule.

Before i wrote the above lines i phoned the German Federal Central Tax Office 
and spoke to someone who is responsible for the MOSS.
He assured me that there is no such limit. But he was aware that there is a 
widespread opinion out there that there is such a limit, but there isn´t.

If you have other official informations especially about the sales limit, then 
I am more than happy to see them.

Regards,
Matthias


If your tax consultant say "play safe" then make sure to change tax consultant 
as soon as possible. Clearly, s/he is unaware of the rules.





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Op 02-Aug-16 om 10:07 schreef FlexibleLearning.com:

EU VAT is only due on AUTOMATED transactions. Communicating by email and
attachments does NOT constitute "Digital Services"...

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/41
5931/VAT_MOSS_Flow_chart_FSB_edit_V1_0.pdf

If your product requires a key (i.e. they are buying a key to the software)
and you take the time to send your customer a personal email with the key,
my understanding is this is a MANUAL transaction and so falls outside the
scope of the legislation. If the key is issued automatically, then it does
fall in the scope of the legislation.

This is my understanding of this mess. I am not a lawyer and you should make
up your own mind whether you are affected or not.

Hugh Senior
FLCo

Matthias Rebbe wrote:


I know, Paypal is easy. I used it before 01.01.2015. But after that date

the EU

changed the rules how VAT has to be handled for digital products when sold
within the EU.
So the VAT declarations for every EU country i have to do every month is

the

problem. Using PayPal i am the seller of the product and therefore i am
responsible for the VAT declarations.

Every month / 3 months i have to declare how much VAT i have received
from the customers for each of the EU countries i sold my software to.
That means, even if i just sell only one license to a customer in France

for

example, i have to do same amount of paper work as if i have sold  20
licenses to 20 different customers in France.
If i sell 5 licenses to 5 different EU countries, i have to do 5

declarations.

And if i do not sell for example to a french customer one month, i still

have

to do the declaration for France. In this case with the information that i

did

not receive ?french? VAT that month.

You can imagine how much work that is.

I think i will give Fastspring or Avangate a try. Let?s see who of them

answers

my email questions faster? ;)


Matthias



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Re: looking for an alternative to KAGI, because KAGI ceased operations

[Mark Schonewille]

Always the same misunderstandings about taxes. The new VAT rules don't 
apply to most people on this list, because they don't sell enough. If 
your tax consultant say "play safe" then make sure to change tax 
consultant as soon as possible. Clearly, s/he is unaware of the rules.


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Op 02-Aug-16 om 10:07 schreef FlexibleLearning.com:

EU VAT is only due on AUTOMATED transactions. Communicating by email and
attachments does NOT constitute "Digital Services"...

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/41
5931/VAT_MOSS_Flow_chart_FSB_edit_V1_0.pdf

If your product requires a key (i.e. they are buying a key to the software)
and you take the time to send your customer a personal email with the key,
my understanding is this is a MANUAL transaction and so falls outside the
scope of the legislation. If the key is issued automatically, then it does
fall in the scope of the legislation.

This is my understanding of this mess. I am not a lawyer and you should make
up your own mind whether you are affected or not.

Hugh Senior
FLCo

Matthias Rebbe wrote:


I know, Paypal is easy. I used it before 01.01.2015. But after that date

the EU

changed the rules how VAT has to be handled for digital products when sold
within the EU.
So the VAT declarations for every EU country i have to do every month is

the

problem. Using PayPal i am the seller of the product and therefore i am
responsible for the VAT declarations.

Every month / 3 months i have to declare how much VAT i have received
from the customers for each of the EU countries i sold my software to.
That means, even if i just sell only one license to a customer in France

for

example, i have to do same amount of paper work as if i have sold  20
licenses to 20 different customers in France.
If i sell 5 licenses to 5 different EU countries, i have to do 5

declarations.

And if i do not sell for example to a french customer one month, i still

have

to do the declaration for France. In this case with the information that i

did

not receive ?french? VAT that month.

You can imagine how much work that is.

I think i will give Fastspring or Avangate a try. Let?s see who of them

answers

my email questions faster? ;)


Matthias



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Re: android sdk fyi

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Thanks Mike!
+1

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Op 07-Jul-16 om 14:47 schreef Mike Bonner:

I recently started working with android again, and was having trouble
building successfully.  aapt.exe would crash every time.  If you happen to
run into this, go to the sdk manager and install the build tools 22.01,
then backup the aapt.exe in the most recent build tools (just in case) and
copy the aapt.exe from the 22.01 build tools in to replace it.

A version other than 22.01 might work, but during research of the problem I
ran across mention of that specific version. Unfortunately, I can't seem to
find it again, but hey, it worked!



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Re: Advertising in iOS or android apps

[Mark Schonewille]

AFAIK, currently there is no co-operation between RunRev/LiveCode and 
Inneractive. You'll have to make arrangements with Inneractive on your 
own behalf.


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Op 10-Jul-16 om 17:14 schreef Dr. Hawkins:

Here is the Interactive rejection.  Does anyone know what the "criteria"
are?

If it's already having distributed the app, that's kind of a catch-22--and
why would I switch over *after* coding to use something else?



Thank you for your interest in Inneractive. Unfortunately, at this time,
your registration has been rejected due to publisher criteria that were not
met.
We do look forward to working with you in the future. Thanks again for your
interest in Inneractive.



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Re: Slight annoyance from MacKiev

[Mark Schonewille]

I have been using HyperStudio for some time now. The current version is 
something between PowerPoint and HyperCard, althought that would be a 
modern version of HyperCard.


HS Author provides a subset of the features of HyperStudio. HyperStudion 
used to do the HTML5 export by itself, but people would often create a 
HS stack with many features only to discover that the HTML5 version 
wouldn't contain all these features. Therefore, a separate product was 
created, which lets you use only those features that can be exported to 
HTML5.


I don't use Author very often, but have made some nice pages that let me 
move pictures around (I wanted to write "objects" but that would be wrong).


Sometimes I use HyperStudio to play with HyperDuino. I was able to 
collect some environmental data (light and temperature) using Arduino 
and HyperStudio, without any scripting.


To answer your questions: you can put the HTML5 files created by Author 
into Dropbox and load them on your iOS or Android device. Dropbox can 
download the files and let you use the "app" whenever you want it, off-line.


Yes, you can also do this with LiveCode's HTML5 exports, although I 
haven't tried that yet and I wouldn't be surprised if there were some 
catch that makes this slightly more complicated that expected. I really 
would have to try this.


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Op 19-Jun-16 om 20:19 schreef Richmond:

Um: http://www.mackiev.com/hsa/

states:

"Export your HyperStudio projects as HTML5 Web apps that
can be run offline and be delivered to iPads and iPhones
without going through the App Store℠."

[ Hmm; does superscripted 'SM' mean 'sado-masochist? ]

1. Is that claim true (offline running)?

2. Is that also true of Livecode's HTML5 exports?

Richmond.


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Re: Control? Object?

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If your goal is to teach computer science, you really should stop calling 
controls objects, but if your goal is to teach LiveCode, perhaps it would be 
easier for them to use the word object for now. 

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Op 19 jun. 2016 om 16:28 heeft Richmond <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> het 
volgende geschreven:

> So:
> 
> Should I stop using the word 'Object' for Buttons, Fields and so on while
> teaching children, and make sure I refer to all of those things as 
> 'Controls'; even if only
> for the simple reason that the menus keep referring to 'Controls'?
> 
> Richmond.
> 
> On 19.06.2016 10:19, Richmond wrote:
>> I am currently teaching some children Livecode programming and ran into some 
>> difficulty
>> on Friday when a child asked me why the menus were full of the word "Control"
>> when I had been talking about "Objects".
>> 
>> Well?
>> 
>> How about changing every use of the word "Control" to "Object"?
>> 
>> Enhancement Request 17879
>> 
>> Richmond.
> 
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Re: Control? Object?

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Hi Richmond,

The LiveCode documentation consistently talks about objects, where this 
should be controls. The scripting language, however, mixes up the two 
concepts completely.


An object is a collection of properties and instructions defined by a 
programming syntax (where one shouldn't limit "programming syntax" to 
the traditional text listings but also include "syntax" created by 
visual programming environments).


A control is an often visual component of an interface, which allows the 
user to interact with the program, such as a button, a field and a slider.


Objects can create controls, but objects may also perform other tasks, 
such as saving data to disk, creating arrays, moving a control, and many 
other tasks.


In my book, I consistently distinguish objects and controls. This means 
that I almost always talk about controls and very rarely about objects, 
because it isn't really necessary to use objects in the LiveCode 
scripting language and AFAIK there is no "create object" command in the 
LiveCode language  (but if you really want to, you can simulate objects).


It is interesting that LiveCode (I'm working with 6.7.6 today) doesn't 
have an "object" keyword but does have a "control" keyword, while many 
functions, commands and messages contain either the string "control" or 
the string "object".


It is clear that LiveCode hasn't matured well enough to deal with this 
issue. I would recommend using above definitions consistently. One day, 
real objects will be introduced into the LiveCode scripting language and 
we will need to distinguish them from controls.


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Op 19-Jun-16 om 09:19 schreef Richmond:

I am currently teaching some children Livecode programming and ran into
some difficulty
on Friday when a child asked me why the menus were full of the word
"Control"
when I had been talking about "Objects".

Well?

How about changing every use of the word "Control" to "Object"?

Enhancement Request 17879

Richmond.

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Re: Commercial version lockout

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No, it is not like this, but you have to be careful when you open a stack in a 
newer version of LiveCode. Sometimes it is difficult to go back.

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Op 11 jun. 2016 om 17:52 heeft RM <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> het volgende 
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> Am I right in thinking that if one opens a stack in the Commercial version of 
> Livecode
> and then saves it, it will be unopenable in the Community version?
> 
> Richmond.
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Re: Cubist's first bug report

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Hi Quentin,

I see the same results, when I try your code. However, if I first store 
the random value and add 1 to an item in the string in the next line in 
the script, it works correctly. Apparently, the random function and the 
add command are incompatible.


on mouseUp
   put "0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0" into myVar
   repeat 100
  put random(16) into myRandom
  add 1 to item myRandom of myVar
  put myVar & cr after myTempList
   end repeat
   put sum(myVar) & cr & myTempList
end mouseUp

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Op 05-Jun-16 om 16:12 schreef Quentin Long:

Code which exhibits the bug:

on mouseUp
   put "0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0" into Fred
   repeat 100 times
  add 1 to any item of Fred
  put Fred into line (1 + the number of lines in fld "testbed") of fld 
"testbed"
   end repeat
   put sum (Fred) into line (1 + the number of lines in fld "testbed") of fld 
"testbed"
end mouseUp

This handler *should* end up generating a 16-item string of integers which sum 
to exactly 100. What it *actually does* end up generating, is a 16-item string 
of integers whose sum may or may not fall somewhere within the range 80-120. 
Not sure what the hell is going on here, but I am not at all happy about it. 
Perhaps other people might like to try this code on their systems, and see if 
it works as intended for them?

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17795




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Economy-x-Talk temporarily off-line

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Hi,

On may 27th, Economy-x-Talk's server will be off-line for a few hours. 
This applies to both the web server and the e-mail server. If you use 
any of our services, you will be unable to use them during downtime. If 
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Re: the keys of the dragData?

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Hi David,

The dragData isn't an array but a property. By putting the dragData into 
a variable, you convert it into an array and you'll be able to get the keys.


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Op 27-May-16 om 16:58 schreef David Bovill:

This isn't working for me in 8.1:


*put* the keys of the dragData into dragKeys



Is this a bug or am I doing something silly?



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Re: Store

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Thanks for the reply, Erik. Funny thing: now I see the log-in link on 
the main page again.


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Op 12-May-16 om 23:11 schreef Erik Beugelaar:

Hi Mark,

If you are looking for the extensions here you go:
https://livecode.com/products/extensions
The store I guess needs to be setup by RunRev for the widgets before end of
this year.

Kind regards,
Erik


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Subject: Store

Hi,

Where do I find the LiveCode store nowadays? I expected to find a log-in
button with the word "Store" at the top of the website at livecode.com but
it isn't there.

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Re: Infinite LiveCode - Message from CEO

[Mark Schonewille]

I agree with you. The community helped the company. In return for that,
all new features should be open-source. I'm very disappointed by the
"business-only" features. It seems inconsistent with RunRev's new
open-source strategy. I won't be supporting any future fund
raising campaigns until this changes.

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Op 12-May-16 om 22:55 schreef Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami:

I have bought, paid, contributed to every single forward offer that
RunRev and LiveCode have offered through the years, I had a great
deal of faith in our LC team at HQ.

But when I saw recently that something we've been begging for, for 15
years… simple SFTP functionality from the engine.. .(available for
free in dozens of open source apps) is only going to be offered to
Business, my enthusiasm for any further participation in any such
things as "infinite livecode"  was pretty much extinguished.

It's not that I don't understand a Business level pricing…the entire
enterprise collaboration and support makes a great deal of sense for
a higher pricing tier.

But when you say  "For all you cooks out there.. you can only use a
serving spoon (SFTP) if you choose Business, otherwise you have to
carve your own serving spoon (run around installing keys on machines
and scripting scp and rsync code into apps.) "   I have to just blink
twice and scratch my head

"What is going o? How many more basic utilities that we think we have
supported development for, are going to be out of our price range in
the future?"

BR

On 5/12/16, 7:50 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Heather Laine"
<use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of
heat...@livecode.com> wrote:


Please go and read this blog post from Kevin, it contains important
information I'm sure will interest you!

https://livecode.com/infinite-livecode-a-letter-from-our-ceo/


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Store

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi,

Where do I find the LiveCode store nowadays? I expected to find a log-in 
button with the word "Store" at the top of the website at livecode.com 
but it isn't there.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 , project browser

[Mark Schonewille]

Andrew,

Perhaps it is good to know that an official request for accessibility 
features was made almost 8 years ago:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7286
The last note from RunRev staff about this issue dates back to 2014.

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Op 05-May-16 om 00:22 schreef Andrew Meit:

Please, please anyone know how to hack the colors used in the project browser 
tree?
1. I can barely read the white on blue, needs to be dark grey/black bkgnd
2. all the light grey text needs to be darker or black
3. the eye is hideous, dark grey/black please
4. I can barely see the lock when disabled
5. icons are too small
6. white on blue for the numbers, need black on white please
7. A Thicker font, this thin font is too much for me to see the font.
8. the +/- controls are hard to see too, white on grey, too tiny

There needs a theme editor for the project browser,…soon, very soon.
Off to take some meds from a headache from 3hrs using the project browser.
No, this is not a joke, am legally blind.

Someone have an alternative project browser? I will trade some of my art for or 
to do something.

Andrew



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Re: Error, but no error?

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Dan,

Apparently, you need to turn OFF script debug mode in the Development 
menu. I'm not sure it is a good idea to add breakpoints in this case.


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Op 04-May-16 om 00:16 schreef Dan Friedman:

Mark,

I just tried your suggestion and I got the same empty "Errors" dialog, and the 
execution did not halt at all, same as before.

What does this mean?

-Dan




Dan,

There is a good chance that the problem is in the IDE. Put true into
gRevDevelopment, turn on the Script Debug Mode (Development menu) and
try again. Does the debug window appear and where does the execution halt?

Kind regards,

Mark Schonewille



Greetings!

I am having a problem tracking down a bug.  But the real problem is that the 
LC's error dialog is showing empty.  I put this in my stack script:

on errorDialog pExecutionError, pParseError
 answer pExecutionError & pParseError
end errorDialog

It does fire, but both pExecutionError and pParseError are empty.  I put in a 
breakpoint, and checked the contents of pExecutionError and pParseError and 
they are both empty!

I get the same result in both 7.0.1 and 7.0.4.

Any thoughts?


Thanks in advance,
-Dan



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Re: Converting a stack to a text file..

[Mark Schonewille]

I have created DIFfersifier a long time ago. A few years ago, I added a 
way to export stacks to XML. It isn't difficult to do that, since you 
just list all the properties as XML. If I remember correctly, a few 
properties can be read but not set, or perhaps there was another 
problem. I never got to writing a tool to recreate stacks from the same 
XML files, but although it would be a lot of work, it is certianly doable.


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Op 04-May-16 om 14:29 schreef Paul Dupuis:

Some time back on this email list there were discussions about tool(s)
to write a stack (mainstack, substacks, controls, images, and all their
standard and custom properties) out into a text file that could then be
run through another tool to recreate the stack exactly. I think I recall
that the purpose was to work with source code management systems which
tend to want to work with text files.

In theory it was a matter of looping through all stack, substacks,
cards, and controls and writing out all their standard and custom
properties and scripts and then reversing this to rebuild the stack(s)

I find myself in need of a tool to export a stack and all its possible
bits to a text file and then regenerate it. Did anyone ever build such
tools? Willing to share them?

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Re: Error, but no error?

[Mark Schonewille]

Dan,

There is a good chance that the problem is in the IDE. Put true into 
gRevDevelopment, turn on the Script Debug Mode (Development menu) and 
try again. Does the debug window appear and where does the execution halt?


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Op 03-May-16 om 23:51 schreef Dan Friedman:

Greetings!

I am having a problem tracking down a bug.  But the real problem is that the 
LC's error dialog is showing empty.  I put this in my stack script:

on errorDialog pExecutionError, pParseError
  answer pExecutionError & pParseError
end errorDialog

It does fire, but both pExecutionError and pParseError are empty.  I put in a 
breakpoint, and checked the contents of pExecutionError and pParseError and 
they are both empty!

I get the same result in both 7.0.1 and 7.0.4.

Any thoughts?


Thanks in advance,
-Dan
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Re: AW: OT: Who can convert 3.5" diskettes with Hypercard stacks for me?

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Keep in mind that most floppy drives only read 1.4MB MS DOS disks. They 
won't read 800K Macintosh disks.


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Op 27-Apr-16 om 11:51 schreef Tiemo Hollmann TB:

Thanks all for your help offers and advices,
I will first buy a floppy drive and try it myself, if I fail I will get back
to your offers.
Tiemo

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag
von RM
Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. April 2016 19:54
An: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
Betreff: Re: OT: Who can convert 3.5" diskettes with Hypercard stacks for
me?

I'm perfectly happy to transfer Hypercard stacks from floppy disks to a
CD-ROM as I have
2 functioning Macs (a G3 iMac and a G5 iMac) and an external (USB) floppy
drive.

However, I wonder why you don't just buy yourself an external floppy drive:

http://www.amazon.de/CSL-Externes-Diskettenlaufwerk-Slimline-portable/dp/B00
AU07SUA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1461693221=8-1=floppy+drive+usb

Richmond.

On 26.04.2016 10:04, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

Hello,

I have some 3.5" diskettes from my Mac from the beginning 90th with
some HyperCard stacks which I just regained again.

The HyperCard stacks are not vital for me, but if possible I would
like to see them again (converted to LC), just as a memory.

Is there anybody, who still has a Mac with diskette drive, who could
copy the content for me? Best somebody in Europe for easier shipping?



And is there a recipie, if and how I can convert HC stacks to LC
format? I think I have read from time to time that it should be possible.



Thanks

Tiemo





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Re: OT: Who can convert 3.5" diskettes with Hypercard stacks for me?

[Mark Schonewille]

We have a few old Macs and can read and copy 3.5" disks. Converting 
stacks is also possible. It is best to write to supp...@economy-x-talk.com.


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Op 26-Apr-16 om 09:04 schreef Tiemo Hollmann TB:

Hello,

I have some 3.5" diskettes from my Mac from the beginning 90th with some
HyperCard stacks which I just regained again.

The HyperCard stacks are not vital for me, but if possible I would like to
see them again (converted to LC), just as a memory.

Is there anybody, who still has a Mac with diskette drive, who could copy
the content for me? Best somebody in Europe for easier shipping?



And is there a recipie, if and how I can convert HC stacks to LC format? I
think I have read from time to time that it should be possible.



Thanks

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Re: List Field Not receiving Mouse messages unless a line is clicked?

[Mark Schonewille]

I also consider this a bug, but it has always been like in 
Revolution/MetaCard.


You may solve this problem by using mouseDown messages or by setting the 
lockText to true. This isn't always a good solution, but it is worth a try.


I think it is like this because list fields normally should respond only 
to changes in the selection and often a different button just retrieves 
the selected line while the list field itself doesn't need to do anything.


Still, I vaguely remember being surprised when I moved from HyperCard to 
Revolution and I think both mouseUp and mouseDown should be triggered.


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Op 25-Apr-16 om 20:04 schreef dunb...@aol.com:

Confirmed here, and there is nothing in the v6 dictionary that indicates that 
the click must occur on a non-empty line to fire the messages.


This is a bug, not a feature, since it is easy to determine if a line is empty 
if there is a message sent, and act accordingly, but difficult to do so if 
there is not.


I never noticed this before.


Craig Newman



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From: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami <bra...@hindu.org>
To: How LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2016 1:52 pm
Subject: List Field Not receiving Mouse messages unless a line is clicked?

I was trying to find a way to force a list field to unhilite it’s line.

The instinctive behavior would be to just click away from any lines below the 
list and then any hilited line in the list would be unhilited.  But my handler 
doesn’t fire if I click anywhere in the field that is not on a line.

Try this yourself

Create a scrolling list field. The IDE will prepopulated with choice 1, 2, 3 
(lines)

Make the field bigger so there is space below those three lines

Add this to the script of the field:


on mousedown

put the hilitedtext

end mousedown

on mouseup

answer "hello" with "OK"

end mouseup

Note that the mouseup message triggers the answer dialog only if you click on a 
line.

If you click on the field below.. .nothing happens.

This seems to be a bug to me… since the mouseUP is in the script of the field… 
the field show hear it whether or not a line is clicked.

BR
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A brief message about my book

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Hi everyone,

We're currently at the fourth print run of my book Programming LiveCode 
for the Real Beginner. We decided to print a large stock of books, so we 
have plenty of copies available for immediate delivery.


The fourth print of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner has been 
updated to include a number of new XML commands, which were introduced 
after the first release of the book. I have also added a few remarks 
about LiveCode 7 to the chapter on Unicode.


Before the official release of LiveCode 7, I had the impression I were 
going to have to rewrite parts of the book. Fortunately, it appears that 
all examples can still be executed in LiveCode 7 and even the 
text-related subjects are still current. It looks like the examples in 
the book are also fully compatible with LiveCode 8.


You can order the book at http://tinyurl.com/livecodebook and more info 
is available at http://tinyurl.com/livecodeblog


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