Only in hushed whispers.
Bob S
> On Feb 27, 2017, at 01:40 , Simon Knight via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the decode - I did wonder why the forerunner of the CIA was being
> talked about ;-)
>
> OSS - Office of Strategic Services
>
> Simon
>
> Simon Knight
Well in this context, Sardines is definitely out.
Bob S
> On Feb 26, 2017, at 05:24 , Simon Knight via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I try and follow these threads but please take care with the use of
> abbreviations / acronyms. Some I’ve worked out others I’ve no idea : OSS
> open source S??
Atom is nice, true, but I had a license for ST2 from 2014 and it worked! plus
"multiple cursors" and related multi-line handling is awesome, I not seeing
that in
Atom (maybe there is a package for that…) but, keep us posted on a syntax
package updates.
On 2/28/17, 4:18 AM, "use-livecode on
ST3 is "annoy ware" - it will bug you to register and pay, but you don't
have to.
I've been working on the indent rules, and have discovered that Atom is
almost like a prettier version of ST3. After I have this working in ST3,
I'm going to go back to Atom and fix them over there. Even the python
Thanks for the thorough reply Trevor.
I left Sublime Text when it was "2" years ago…thinking it was an EOL'd tool but
here you say "Sublime Text 3"
Oh… sweet, my Sublime Text 2 license works!
OK I'll try it..since Atom and Visual Studio still don't quite gel for my work
flow…
On 2/23/17, 4
Hi, it was the comment by Dr. Hawkins : "as well
as the inability to actually put a pdf or eps on a card (just a bitmap of
it won't do); livecode just doesn't seem to me doing towards such a
direction.
Sorry for causing confusion.
> On 27 Feb 2017, at 16:10, Mike Kerner via use-livecode
> wr
I don't understand the last question, on PDF's
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Simon Knight via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> I’m curious how do the likes of Swift, C# store details of their GUI ?
>
> As to display of PDF what is it you want to do that can’t be achieved
I’m curious how do the likes of Swift, C# store details of their GUI ?
As to display of PDF what is it you want to do that can’t be achieved using the
browser ?
best wishes
Simon
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> On 26 Feb 2017,
Thanks for the decode - I did wonder why the forerunner of the CIA was being
talked about ;-)
OSS - Office of Strategic Services
Simon
Simon Knight
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Telephone : 01427 325911
Mobile : 07963 077071
Skype : jtidsskids
> On 26 Feb 2017, at 13:40, Mike Kerner via use-livecode
>
Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> More commonly, until and unless livecode can save such that such
> standard tools or comparable can be applied, multi-person development
> will remain a fantasy and/or novelty.
And yet here we are, using an IDE written in LiveCode by a team
comprised of dozens of company an
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> I don't think SOS is the main future. I think it gives us another option.
I don't think it will *ever* be a full-fledged option until stacks
themselves can be saved as text files for use with
Abbreviations that come up in this thread:
LC - livecode
SE - script editor
IDE - Integrated Development Environment
OSS - open source software
SOS - script-only stack
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Simon Knight via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> Hi, as someone who came
Hi, as someone who came to Livecode attracted by the hook that it could be used
by Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) I try and follow these threads but please take
care with the use of abbreviations / acronyms. Some I’ve worked out others
I’ve no idea : OSS open source S?, SOS ??? or generally
I don't think SOS is the main future. I think it gives us another option.
Long before someone learns that technique, they should have the traditional
method down, cold, and understand why they would use one or the other. SOS
definitely make working on the IDE easier, and they make complicated
pro
There seems to be more stack-based collaboration over in the forums, since
you can attach files. GIT seems overkill for many of the smaller tasks,
and way more complicated too. At least if you've never participated in
team-based coding. Balls are rolling, but rolling in different
directions. I
No, what I meant was that we as a group have been really slow to get the
ball and start running. We're just start to get moving, but I'm hoping
that with a few of these little projects started we're picking it up...
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Roger Eller via use-livecode <
use-livecode@list
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Roger Eller
wrote:
> On Feb 25, 2017 9:21 AM, "Mike Kerner via use-livecode" <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > All I did was plant the thought, and Bernd went nuts with it. Welcome to
> > management. Where's my big paycheck and pin stripes?
> >
What do you mean, Roger?
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 2017 9:21 AM, "Mike Kerner via use-livecode" <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > All I did was plant the thought, and Bernd went nuts with it.
On Feb 25, 2017 9:21 AM, "Mike Kerner via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> All I did was plant the thought, and Bernd went nuts with it. Welcome to
> management. Where's my big paycheck and pin stripes?
> Anyway, we have been raly slow as a
All I did was plant the thought, and Bernd went nuts with it. Welcome to
management. Where's my big paycheck and pin stripes?
Anyway, we have been raly slow as a
community picking up the ball and running with it since LC went OSS. Every
time we start going after A
Mike Kerner wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
>> Mike Kerner wrote:
>>
>> > 4) Why is having an integrated editor important, if your edits made
>> > via an external editor take effect immediately? If we didn't need
>> > the L server hack to get live edits, we cou
Trevor, in his (L)evure framework (which is what brought the original topic
up that inspired this thread) developed a way to get the LC IDE to act as a
server/listener and ST to broadcast every time a .livecodescript file is
edited. LC then unloads and reloads the .lcs file (whether it is a front
Mike Kerner wrote:
> 4) Why is having an integrated editor important, if your edits made
> via an external editor take effect immediately? If we didn't need
> the L server hack to get live edits, we could use any editor.
What is "the L server hack", and what is the threshold of acceptable
imme
Obviously I can't speak for LC, but since the source is already there and
available, I can't imagine that it would go away, but it is definitely
behind most of the run-of-the-mill text editors.
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And if for #5, if I just want to keep using the LC built-in editor because
I am comfortable using it, then I would hope it still exists. I guess like
metacard, it would branch into it's own open-source thing, maintained by
those who want it.
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Mike Kerner via use-l
Other reasons to think about an external editor:
1) Code folding
2) Visual markers for structures (vertical lines that connect the beginning
and end of a control structure, making it easy to see)
3) Larger community, therefore more people to work on it, make suggestions,
etc.
3a) Maybe, eventually,
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via
use-livecode wrote:
> going a bit OT here… I've dabbled withj Atom, Visual Studio and also long
> time ago Sublime… any reason you prefer Sublime?
>
> I still keep dropping out back to BBEdit.. but if I could find a nother
> editor t
Hi,
William Prothero wrote
> [...] A mothership sanctioned powerful external editor [...]
Which one? This is the problem here.
The "target audience" already has its favorite text editor, each another one
;-)
So I think it would only make sense to have "the basics" collected at some
place:
- List
going a bit OT here… I've dabbled withj Atom, Visual Studio and also long time
ago Sublime… any reason you prefer Sublime?
I still keep dropping out back to BBEdit.. but if I could find a nother editor
that had comparable tools I would use it. So far, atom and Visual Studio keep
falling short…
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 3:09 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> From what little I know, the levoure framework is designed to allow
> multiple devs on a single project. This is almost undoable from within the
> IDE. If however it's just text files getting wor
>From what little I know, the levoure framework is designed to allow multiple
>devs on a single project. This is almost undoable from within the IDE. If
>however it's just text files getting worked on, then they can be checked out
>and in to whatever system you are working with, like Github for
Richard,
That makes good sense. A mothership sanctioned powerful external editor, with
detailed install instructions, would be very nice and would better support
those with higher professional aspirations for livecode.
Best,
Bill
William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 8
prothero wrote:
> I agree with Roger,
> There needs to be a useful script editor bundled with livecode.
Absolutely. No development environment could claim to be integrated
without including such an essential components.
I'm not suggesting we make people hunt for their own components. I'm
w
I agree with Roger,
There needs to be a useful script editor bundled with livecode. I'm suspecting
that a lot of the impetus for sublime text and other external editors has to do
with professional developers' need to use github with script only stacks. For
entry level users, the built in editor
I'm fine with a different editor, as long as it is "in the box". I don't
want to be forced into adding components from other sites unless I choose
to, like plugins, etc. The IDE should install as a complete thing (editor
included).
2 cents.
~Roger
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Richard Gask
Roger Eller wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2017 9:28 PM, "Richard Gaskin via use-livecode" wrote:
>
>> It's always exciting to see new ground explored with inter-app
>> communications, but with script editors I find myself wondering:
>>
>> Why not use LC's?
>>
>> If it's not on par with alternatives and for
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> It's always exciting to see new ground explored with inter-app
> communications, but with script editors I find myself wondering:
>
> Why not use LC's?
>
> If it's not on par with alternative
I'm not what you would call a power user, nor do I need an editor that
handles multiple languages and syntax coloring variations. I like the
truly integrated LC editor just fine. It is great to see users providing
options for those who need more than that.
~Roger
On Feb 21, 2017 9:28 PM, "Richa
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