Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Only in hushed whispers. Bob S > On Feb 27, 2017, at 01:40 , Simon Knight via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thanks for the decode - I did wonder why the forerunner of the CIA was being > talked about ;-) > > OSS - Office of Strategic Services > > Simon > >

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Well in this context, Sardines is definitely out. Bob S > On Feb 26, 2017, at 05:24 , Simon Knight via use-livecode > wrote: > > I try and follow these threads but please take care with the use of > abbreviations / acronyms. Some I’ve worked out others I’ve

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Atom is nice, true, but I had a license for ST2 from 2014 and it worked! plus "multiple cursors" and related multi-line handling is awesome, I not seeing that in Atom (maybe there is a package for that…) but, keep us posted on a syntax package updates. On 2/28/17, 4:18 AM, "use-livecode

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

ST3 is "annoy ware" - it will bug you to register and pay, but you don't have to. I've been working on the indent rules, and have discovered that Atom is almost like a prettier version of ST3. After I have this working in ST3, I'm going to go back to Atom and fix them over there. Even the python

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Thanks for the thorough reply Trevor. I left Sublime Text when it was "2" years ago…thinking it was an EOL'd tool but here you say "Sublime Text 3" Oh… sweet, my Sublime Text 2 license works! OK I'll try it..since Atom and Visual Studio still don't quite gel for my work flow… On 2/23/17,

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Hi, it was the comment by Dr. Hawkins : "as well as the inability to actually put a pdf or eps on a card (just a bitmap of it won't do); livecode just doesn't seem to me doing towards such a direction. Sorry for causing confusion. > On 27 Feb 2017, at 16:10, Mike Kerner via use-livecode >

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

I don't understand the last question, on PDF's On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Simon Knight via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I’m curious how do the likes of Swift, C# store details of their GUI ? > > As to display of PDF what is it you want to do that can’t be achieved

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

I’m curious how do the likes of Swift, C# store details of their GUI ? As to display of PDF what is it you want to do that can’t be achieved using the browser ? best wishes Simon Simon Knight s...@anvic.net Telephone : 01427 325911 Mobile : 07963 077071 Skype : jtidsskids > On 26 Feb

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Thanks for the decode - I did wonder why the forerunner of the CIA was being talked about ;-) OSS - Office of Strategic Services Simon Simon Knight s...@anvic.net Telephone : 01427 325911 Mobile : 07963 077071 Skype : jtidsskids > On 26 Feb 2017, at 13:40, Mike Kerner via use-livecode >

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Dr. Hawkins wrote: > More commonly, until and unless livecode can save such that such > standard tools or comparable can be applied, multi-person development > will remain a fantasy and/or novelty. And yet here we are, using an IDE written in LiveCode by a team comprised of dozens of company

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I don't think SOS is the main future. I think it gives us another option. I don't think it will *ever* be a full-fledged option until stacks themselves can be saved as text files for use

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Abbreviations that come up in this thread: LC - livecode SE - script editor IDE - Integrated Development Environment OSS - open source software SOS - script-only stack On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Simon Knight via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi, as someone who

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Hi, as someone who came to Livecode attracted by the hook that it could be used by Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) I try and follow these threads but please take care with the use of abbreviations / acronyms. Some I’ve worked out others I’ve no idea : OSS open source S?, SOS ??? or generally

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

I don't think SOS is the main future. I think it gives us another option. Long before someone learns that technique, they should have the traditional method down, cold, and understand why they would use one or the other. SOS definitely make working on the IDE easier, and they make complicated

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

There seems to be more stack-based collaboration over in the forums, since you can attach files. GIT seems overkill for many of the smaller tasks, and way more complicated too. At least if you've never participated in team-based coding. Balls are rolling, but rolling in different directions. I

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

No, what I meant was that we as a group have been really slow to get the ball and start running. We're just start to get moving, but I'm hoping that with a few of these little projects started we're picking it up... On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Roger Eller via use-livecode <

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > On Feb 25, 2017 9:21 AM, "Mike Kerner via use-livecode" < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > All I did was plant the thought, and Bernd went nuts with it. Welcome to > > management. Where's my big

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

What do you mean, Roger? On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Feb 25, 2017 9:21 AM, "Mike Kerner via use-livecode" < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > All I did was plant the thought, and Bernd went nuts with

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

On Feb 25, 2017 9:21 AM, "Mike Kerner via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > All I did was plant the thought, and Bernd went nuts with it. Welcome to > management. Where's my big paycheck and pin stripes? > Anyway, we have been raly slow as

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

All I did was plant the thought, and Bernd went nuts with it. Welcome to management. Where's my big paycheck and pin stripes? Anyway, we have been raly slow as a community picking up the ball and running with it since LC went OSS. Every time we start going after

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Mike Kerner wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Mike Kerner wrote: >> >> > 4) Why is having an integrated editor important, if your edits made >> > via an external editor take effect immediately? If we didn't need >> > the L server hack to get live edits, we

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Trevor, in his (L)evure framework (which is what brought the original topic up that inspired this thread) developed a way to get the LC IDE to act as a server/listener and ST to broadcast every time a .livecodescript file is edited. LC then unloads and reloads the .lcs file (whether it is a front

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Mike Kerner wrote: > 4) Why is having an integrated editor important, if your edits made > via an external editor take effect immediately? If we didn't need > the L server hack to get live edits, we could use any editor. What is "the L server hack", and what is the threshold of acceptable

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Obviously I can't speak for LC, but since the source is already there and available, I can't imagine that it would go away, but it is definitely behind most of the run-of-the-mill text editors. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

And if for #5, if I just want to keep using the LC built-in editor because I am comfortable using it, then I would hope it still exists. I guess like metacard, it would branch into it's own open-source thing, maintained by those who want it. On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Mike Kerner via

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Other reasons to think about an external editor: 1) Code folding 2) Visual markers for structures (vertical lines that connect the beginning and end of a control structure, making it easy to see) 3) Larger community, therefore more people to work on it, make suggestions, etc. 3a) Maybe,

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > going a bit OT here… I've dabbled withj Atom, Visual Studio and also long > time ago Sublime… any reason you prefer Sublime? > > I still keep dropping out back to BBEdit.. but if

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Hi, William Prothero wrote > [...] A mothership sanctioned powerful external editor [...] Which one? This is the problem here. The "target audience" already has its favorite text editor, each another one ;-) So I think it would only make sense to have "the basics" collected at some place: -

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

going a bit OT here… I've dabbled withj Atom, Visual Studio and also long time ago Sublime… any reason you prefer Sublime? I still keep dropping out back to BBEdit.. but if I could find a nother editor that had comparable tools I would use it. So far, atom and Visual Studio keep falling short…

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 3:09 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > From what little I know, the levoure framework is designed to allow > multiple devs on a single project. This is almost undoable from within the > IDE. If however it's just text files getting

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

>From what little I know, the levoure framework is designed to allow multiple >devs on a single project. This is almost undoable from within the IDE. If >however it's just text files getting worked on, then they can be checked out >and in to whatever system you are working with, like Github for

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Richard, That makes good sense. A mothership sanctioned powerful external editor, with detailed install instructions, would be very nice and would better support those with higher professional aspirations for livecode. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Feb 22, 2017, at

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

prothero wrote: > I agree with Roger, > There needs to be a useful script editor bundled with livecode. Absolutely. No development environment could claim to be integrated without including such an essential components. I'm not suggesting we make people hunt for their own components. I'm

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

I agree with Roger, There needs to be a useful script editor bundled with livecode. I'm suspecting that a lot of the impetus for sublime text and other external editors has to do with professional developers' need to use github with script only stacks. For entry level users, the built in editor

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

I'm fine with a different editor, as long as it is "in the box". I don't want to be forced into adding components from other sites unless I choose to, like plugins, etc. The IDE should install as a complete thing (editor included). 2 cents. ~Roger On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Richard

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

Roger Eller wrote: > On Feb 21, 2017 9:28 PM, "Richard Gaskin via use-livecode" wrote: > >> It's always exciting to see new ground explored with inter-app >> communications, but with script editors I find myself wondering: >> >> Why not use LC's? >> >> If it's not on par with alternatives and

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > It's always exciting to see new ground explored with inter-app > communications, but with script editors I find myself wondering: > > Why not use LC's? > > If it's not on par with

Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

I'm not what you would call a power user, nor do I need an editor that handles multiple languages and syntax coloring variations. I like the truly integrated LC editor just fine. It is great to see users providing options for those who need more than that. ~Roger On Feb 21, 2017 9:28 PM,

Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

It's always exciting to see new ground explored with inter-app communications, but with script editors I find myself wondering: Why not use LC's? If it's not on par with alternatives and for some reason can't be made to be on par, why don't we just ship LC with an appropriately-licensed