chunk question

2005-06-05 Thread Jon
How do I say something like put char 7 to END of str into var That is, how do I specify to end of string? :) Jon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: chunk question

2005-06-05 Thread Björnke von Gierke
put char 7 to -1 of str into var check also out the chunk expression topic in the help menu On Jun 05 2005, at 19:40, Jon wrote: How do I say something like put char 7 to END of str into var That is, how do I specify to end of string? :) Jon -- official ChatRev page:

Re: Volume control Question

2005-06-05 Thread Scott Rossi
I was wondering is there was a way to control the volume of something with a slider so that if the slider was one the value 0 there would be no sound, and if it was on 100, the sounds was as high as it could go put this into the script of your scrollbar: on scrollbardrag t_value set

Trying to code the fastest algorithm...

2005-06-05 Thread jbv
Hi list, I'm trying to build the fastest possible algorithm for the following task : I have a variable containing reference words; each word in this variable is considered as an item. I also have a list of sentences (each sentence being a list of words separated by spaces), 1 per line. Each

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Jim Ault
On Jun 5, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Jon wrote: I'm curious. How many of you use Rev to make a living, and how many of you just play with it. I am using Rev to build a central processing system for graphics and web content. I am a previous Hypercard guy, so Transcript was fairly easy and I knew

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Dennis Brown
Jon, I am retired. I decided to use Rev as my language of choice for doing all those programming projects that I never had time to get to before (ha,ha, I'm busier now than ever). My project list is varied from home automation to food databases, and I do conceive of free distribution

Changing appearence Question

2005-06-05 Thread Buddyb3ar22
I was wondering, if there was a way to change the appearance of a slider bar? Or does it have to be like its original look? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jon wrote: I'm curious. How many of you use Rev to make a living, and how many of you just play with it. I've been making a living with xTalks for 11 years as of 4/4, and almost exclusively with the Rev engine (going back to when it was called MetaCard) since '98. I'm at the point where

Re: rev interferes with Mozilla ThunderBird

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jon wrote: All hell broke loose last night. When I got up, Norton Antivirus claimed it was unable to complete a scan because it ran out of resources, and recommended uninstalling and reinstalling. And Mozilla Thunderbird suddenly claimed I had no email accounts and no saved messages. I

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Marty Billingsley
Ken Ray writes: I think it may actually be better if RunRev wants to consider running content in a plugin that it consider outputing stacks to Flash and running them with *that* plugin (since it is so ubiquitous) rather than creating their own plugin. I'll second that. I've been wishing I

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Troy Rollins
On Jun 5, 2005, at 2:12 PM, Jim Ault wrote: My collection of programs that are directed by Rev via Applescript is (Photoshop, Mac OSX shell, Excel, BBEdit, Entourage, Transmit) Rev is my core App. It is my central database, toolbox, file handling, processing logic, error checking, and log

using the HTTPS keyword...

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks, can someone shed a light on my previous message regarding a simple error trying to post to a SSL Url... the post returns: error -Error with certificate at depth: 1 issuer = /C=ZA/ST=Western Cape/L=Cape Town/O=Thawte Consulting cc/OU=Certification Services Division/CN=Thawte Server

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Troy Rollins
On Jun 5, 2005, at 2:44 PM, Marty Billingsley wrote: I know a lot of people disagree, but Flash isn't going away anytime soon, and just about everyone has the shockwave plugin installed. What's wrong with jumping on that bandwagon? The two programs are so dissimilar that I can't even imagine

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Troy Rollins wrote: On Jun 5, 2005, at 11:24 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Please read this and spread the URL, so as many people as possible will get to read this! http://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/netapps.html Wonderful read, thanks a lot, Richard! Its true, I don't argue that

Re: Trying to code the fastest algorithm...

2005-06-05 Thread Alex Tweedly
jbv wrote: Hi list, I'm trying to build the fastest possible algorithm for the following task : I have a variable containing reference words; each word in this variable is considered as an item. I also have a list of sentences (each sentence being a list of words separated by spaces), 1 per

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Troy Rollins wrote: I find that using Rev to create personal super-utilities is one of the easiest, and most rewarding aspects of the program. It is quite a bit more difficult to create a cross-platform app for commercial distribution though. Personal super-utilities are awfully forgiving...

Re: OT: but interesting to Mac users

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dan Shafer wrote: Since this is so far OT, I decided not to reply in detail here. If you want to know what I think (and frankly I can't think of a lot of reasons you should), check out my blog: http://www.eclecticity.com/.3c63d717 Well said on all fronts. Sometimes change is good, and I

Re: RevCon

2005-06-05 Thread Ralph R. Forehand
Andrea, Thank You Very Much for the quick info on RevCon. Unfortunately, the two-week turn around is much to short for me to set it up now. But I'll be thinking of you folks enviously, knowing it's going well, and trust that lots of information from the Conference finds it's way on-line.

Re: RevCon

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ralph R. Forehand wrote: Andrea, Thank You Very Much for the quick info on RevCon. Unfortunately, the two-week turn around is much to short for me to set it up now. But I'll be thinking of you folks enviously, knowing it's going well, and trust that lots of information from the Conference

converting Offsets into Line Numbers

2005-06-05 Thread Jon
If I have a string with lots of lines in it (like a folder/file listing) and search for a file name with Offset and get a number back, now do I convert it into a line number, so I know which file name I found? :) Jon ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: RevCon

2005-06-05 Thread Ralph R. Forehand
Richard wrote; And if you can swing it there's also be another RevCon in Europe next year, in beautiful Malta - here's the info on the one from last November: http://techietours.com/ So whether stateside or international, you'll have options. Richard, THANK YOU for the heads-up. And WOW!!,

Re: converting Offsets into Line Numbers

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jun 5, 2005, at 4:24 PM, Jon wrote: If I have a string with lots of lines in it (like a folder/file listing) and search for a file name with Offset and get a number back, now do I convert it into a line number, so I know which file name I found? :) Jon Jon, quick and dirty, imagine

Posting RevCon West Sessions (was Re: who's out there?)

2005-06-05 Thread Dan Shafer
In fact, once the conference is over, Chipp Walters and I -- who are hosting the gathering -- will be finding new and cool ways to distribute conference sessions. Watch for post-conference announcements. ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June

Re: RevCon

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jun 5, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Ralph R. Forehand wrote: Richard, THANK YOU for the heads-up. And WOW!!, I'll certainly keep an eye on this one too. While I've been to beautiful Monterey, CA, I've never been to Malta - but heard great things about it. :-)) Thanks Again and TAKE CARE, Ralph

Re: converting Offsets into Line Numbers

2005-06-05 Thread Ken Ray
If I have a string with lots of lines in it (like a folder/file listing) and search for a file name with Offset and get a number back, now do I convert it into a line number, so I know which file name I found? Well, first of all might I suggest lineOffset, which is the same as offset, but

Re: chunk question

2005-06-05 Thread Ken Ray
That is, how do I specify to end of string? put char 7 to -1 of str into var You can also do: put char 7 to length(str) of str into var However the -1 is so much faster and easier to type... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/

Re: Trying to code the fastest algorithm...

2005-06-05 Thread jbv
Alex, repeat for each item i in it get itemoffset(i,myReference) if it0 then put it itemdelimiter after b end if end repeat Shouldn't that be repeat for each item i in a rather than ... in it, since it gets over-written within the loop

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Troy Rollins
On Jun 5, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Troy Rollins wrote: I find that using Rev to create personal super-utilities is one of the easiest, and most rewarding aspects of the program. It is quite a bit more difficult to create a cross-platform app for commercial distribution though.

HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks, still no luck in the HTTPS field, can someone send me the root.pem file? my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't get this working, it always shout: error -Error with certificate at depth: 1 issuer = /C=ZA/ST=Western Cape/L=Cape Town/O=Thawte Consulting cc/OU=Certification Services

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Dar Scott
On Jun 5, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: still no luck in the HTTPS field, can someone send me the root.pem file? my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] On OS X look for TrustedCerts.pem; it works for testing. I'll mention .pem issues briefly at the end of my talk at RevCon. See you then!

Re: Trying to code the fastest algorithm...

2005-06-05 Thread Alex Tweedly
jbv wrote: yes, you're right. That was a typo. Actually my script is slightly more complex, and I had to strip off a couple of things to make the problem easier to explain... hence the typo... So here's a clean version of my code : put into newList repeat for each line j in mySentences

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jun 5, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Jun 5, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: still no luck in the HTTPS field, can someone send me the root.pem file? my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] On OS X look for TrustedCerts.pem; it works for testing. I'll mention .pem issues briefly at

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Dar Scott
On Jun 5, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: error -Error with certificate at depth: 1 issuer = /C=ZA/ST=Western Cape/L=Cape Town/O=Thawte Consulting cc/OU=Certification Services Division/CN=Thawte Server CA/[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject = /C=ZA/O=Thawte Consulting (Pty) Ltd./CN=Thawte

Re: Trying to code the fastest algorithm...

2005-06-05 Thread Jim Ault
JB I'm trying to build the fastest possible algorithm for the following task : I have a variable containing reference words; each word in this variable is considered as an item. I also have a list of sentences (each sentence being a list of words separated by spaces), 1 per line. Each sentence can

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Mark Waddingham
Hi Andre, [ Thought I posted this yesterday but it must have been from a non-list friendly email-address... ] Have you tried the Thawte Root Certificate (of the appropriate hue)? http://www.thawte.com/roots/ Every Certificate Authority (CA) has a different root certificate that is needed

Re: Trying to code the fastest algorithm...

2005-06-05 Thread Alex Tweedly
Alex Tweedly wrote: Since you're asking for fastest algorithm, I assume at least one of these numbers is large - and it's unlikely the same algorithm would excel at both ends of the spectrum . I have 2 or 3 approaches in mind ... any clues you have on the characteristics of the data

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
Mark, thank god you're here. Yes, I have the Thawte Certs, all of them, none of them works. They all return the same: error -Error with certificate at depth: 1 issuer = /C=ZA/ST=Western Cape/L=Cape Town/O=Thawte Consulting cc/OU=Certification Services Division/CN=Thawte Server

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Dar Scott
On Jun 5, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: It's Rev 2.5 rc 2 here. There are some important differences between 2.5 and 2.5.1 in the handling of certificates. I don't know if that would apply to your problem. Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott

Re: Trying to code the fastest algorithm...

2005-06-05 Thread jbv
Alex, your original algorithm took 305 millisecs (once I remembered to set wholeMatches to true !!) using the array split method as above took 28 millisecs (including the time to set up and split the array) Thanks for the suggestion... I'll try to modify my script (early tomorrow morning)

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Dennis- Sunday, June 5, 2005, 11:26:28 AM, you wrote: DB quirks and bugs. My beef is that it is the casual user --the ones DB that can make or break a company by virtue of their numbers --that DB will not put up with getting slapped 4 or 5 times on his first day of DB use. He will give up and

Re: dump newbie image questiosn

2005-06-05 Thread Jon
John: Yes, I'm interested. My first learning project was to replicate my Windows image viewer/manipulator in Rev. That ended with some finality when it turned out that Rev runs so slowly that it cannot possibly process all of the pixels in a real image in the time a reasonable user would

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jun 5, 2005, at 6:36 PM, Dar Scott wrote: There are some important differences between 2.5 and 2.5.1 in the handling of certificates. I don't know if that would apply to your problem. Dar Dar, sorry I forgot to type the revision number, this is 2.5.1rc2 cheers andre -- Andre Alves

Re: Trying to code the fastest algorithm...

2005-06-05 Thread Alex Tweedly
jbv wrote: I don't want to waste too much of your time, don't worry - this is a perfect excuse to avoid doing any *real* work - like documentation, testing, ... but may I ask what other approach you have in mind (in a few words) ? Nothing else that has properly coalesced into an idea

RevOnlline Viewer connect problem

2005-06-05 Thread Ray Stace
I have asked RevSupport the following question, without luck so far, and Jacqueline suggested I also try the group: maybe someone here knows the answer... I have updated to Revolution 2.5.1, but cannot get any network connections to work from within Revolution [revOnline Viewer] so cannot access

Re: bug

2005-06-05 Thread Pat Trendler
After Step 11 this time - msg window now says 122 Pat Did you (or could you, please) try the sequence one more time. This time, do not try the ctrl-S after step 8, which should be equivalent to what I am able to do. So simply do ... 8. edit the script, replacing 2 by 3 9. click on the

Audio problems

2005-06-05 Thread Brad Borch
I can't get any settings but RAW codec to record. I get static or worse with other settings. I also can't get MP3's to play from within Revolution. I'm using Dreamcard 2.5.1 on a Mac 10.3.9, Quicktime 7. Brad ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Trying to code the fastest algorithm...

2005-06-05 Thread Brian Yennie
Here's one off-the-cuff idea, dunno how it will stack up. ## create an array that looks like ## array['word1'] = 1, array['word2'] = 2, etc repeat for each item W in wordList put wordNum into wordArray[W] end repeat ## loop through sentences repeat for each line l in tSentences put 1 into

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On Jun 05 2005, at 18:05, Jon wrote: I'm curious. How many of you use Rev to make a living, and how many of you just play with it. I'm at the point where I can't believe anyone could use it to do serious development. It is just too buggy, syntax idiosyncrasies and sloth aside. And how

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Brad Borch
Hi, I'm a professional multimedia producer, and I'm planning to produce a language learning CD using Revolution. My only other options are Flash, which supports Unicode but has a truly impossible IDE for anything but animations, and Director, which doesn't do Unicode. I haven't done any

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Dan Shafer
Well, then perhaps one question is whether there needs to be clearer pointing to this list for users who are new to the process? ~~ Dan Shafer, Co-Chair RevConWest '05 June 17-18, 2005, Monterey, California http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jun 5, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Bjrnke von Gierke wrote: I am also in the process of making the first (as far as i know) runrev-only coding contest. this or next week i will announce the details of the coding contest. The url for it is http://contest.wecode.org (thanks andre) you're welcome!!

Re: RevOnlline Viewer connect problem

2005-06-05 Thread Alex Tweedly
Ray Stace wrote: I have asked RevSupport the following question, without luck so far, and Jacqueline suggested I also try the group: maybe someone here knows the answer... I have updated to Revolution 2.5.1, but cannot get any network connections to work from within Revolution [revOnline

Re: running rev cgi on Mac OS 8.6 Personal web server?

2005-06-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/5/05 11:01 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Jacque, do you remember any MacOS Classic webserver that is able to run Rev CGIs? I am trying to remember here but nothing comes to mind The only thing I remember is that you can glue WebServer + Applescript middleware + Revolution app. Right,

Slider appearence

2005-06-05 Thread Buddyb3ar22
I was wondering, if there was a way to change the appearance of a slider bar, for example, making bar an image that you made and the dot you drag too? Or does it have to be like its original look? ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/5/05 11:05 AM, Jon wrote: I'm curious. How many of you use Rev to make a living, and how many of you just play with it. I make a living with it, and have for many, many years. You can see some examples of software I've done with Revolution (and MetaCard before it) if you go to my web

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Dan Shafer
Jon I've created several commercial products for clients using Revolution, going back to 1.1, and they all had to run on both Mac and Windows. I am a Mac guy, so I did all the development work on Macintosh. While you can run into some fairly well-documented issues as you move across

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Marty Billingsley
Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Jun 5, 2005, at 2:44 PM, Marty Billingsley wrote: I know a lot of people disagree, but Flash isn't going away anytime soon, and just about everyone has the shockwave plugin installed. What's wrong with jumping on that bandwagon? The two programs

Re: dump newbie image questiosn

2005-06-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/5/05 4:33 PM, Jon wrote: My first learning project was to replicate my Windows image viewer/manipulator in Rev. That ended with some finality when it turned out that Rev runs so slowly that it cannot possibly process all of the pixels in a real image in the time a reasonable user would

Re: running rev cgi on Mac OS 8.6 Personal web server?

2005-06-05 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 6/5/05 11:01 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Jacque, do you remember any MacOS Classic webserver that is able to run Rev CGIs? I am trying to remember here but nothing comes to mind The only thing I remember is that you can glue WebServer + Applescript middleware + Revolution app. Right,

Re: running rev cgi on Mac OS 8.6 Personal web server?

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jun 5, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Robert Brenstein wrote: I have a client still running a Rev-based CGI (with Valentina as database) behind MacHTTP under OS9 and works just dandy, serving some 1500 users. AppleEvents (not AppleScript) are used for inter-program communication. Such a setup will

Re: running rev cgi on Mac OS 8.6 Personal web server?

2005-06-05 Thread Dan Shafer
My guess is you could be thinking of WebStar (http://www.4d.com/ products/webstar.html). Dan On Jun 5, 2005, at 4:51 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/5/05 11:01 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Jacque, do you remember any MacOS Classic webserver that is able to run Rev CGIs? I am trying to

Re: Trying to code the fastest algorithm...

2005-06-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/5/05 4:14 AM, jbv wrote: Hi list, I'm trying to build the fastest possible algorithm for the following task : I have a variable containing reference words; each word in this variable is considered as an item. I also have a list of sentences (each sentence being a list of words separated

Re: running rev cgi on Mac OS 8.6 Personal web server?

2005-06-05 Thread Robert Brenstein
On Jun 5, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Robert Brenstein wrote: I have a client still running a Rev-based CGI (with Valentina as database) behind MacHTTP under OS9 and works just dandy, serving some 1500 users. AppleEvents (not AppleScript) are used for inter-program communication. Such a setup will

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Brian Yennie
Simply put, the majority of Revolution projects use features that don't exist in Flash. Not to mention that moving from a card metaphor to a frame metaphor barely even registers... I think it's a noble idea, but the two environments are hardly similar at all... Troy Rollins [EMAIL

Re: Slider appearence

2005-06-05 Thread Pat Trendler
Buddy, Go to Development - Revolution Online - User Spaces - Klausimausi - custom volume slider. Could be what you want. Pat - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Slider appearence I was

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Troy Rollins
On Jun 5, 2005, at 9:03 PM, Brian Yennie wrote: Simply put, the majority of Revolution projects use features that don't exist in Flash. Not to mention that moving from a card metaphor to a frame metaphor barely even registers... I think it's a noble idea, but the two environments are hardly

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Brian Yennie wrote: Simply put, the majority of Revolution projects use features that don't exist in Flash. Similarly, the majority of Rev apps use feature that aren't possible in a browser. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Dar Scott
On Jun 5, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: error -Error with certificate at depth: 1 issuer = /C=ZA/ST=Western Cape/L=Cape Town/O=Thawte Consulting cc/OU=Certification Services Division/CN=Thawte Server CA/[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject = /C=ZA/O=Thawte Consulting (Pty) Ltd./CN=Thawte

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Jon
Dan: You said You say the Revolution IDE is just too buggy. I've read all of the messages on this list - including many from you in recent days - and I can't honestly say I've seen you report or describe a single bug. Well, two of them have been BugZilla'd by others on the list. I'd say

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Brian Yennie
Jon, Thanks for chiming in on these problems. From my perspective, both sides are right here. There are safe paths in the IDE which are quite stable- in fact, my normal use habits are well supported with virtually no problems. On the same token, the things you have found clearly ARE bugs and

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jun 5, 2005, at 10:19 PM, Dar Scott wrote: I wonder if what you are seeing is not your error, but the server's error. The server might be expecting a certificate from the client. That would be reasonable in a situation like yours where you are using post. However, I don't think

Re: dump newbie image questiosn

2005-06-05 Thread Jon
J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/5/05 4:33 PM, Jon wrote: My first learning project was to replicate my Windows image viewer/manipulator in Rev. That ended with some finality when it turned out that Rev runs so slowly that it cannot possibly process all of the pixels in a real image in the

Re: running rev cgi on Mac OS 8.6 Personal web server?

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jun 5, 2005, at 9:40 PM, Robert Brenstein wrote: Yes, all you need is an appleevent handler that checks for web event and replies to it by sending html page. My old starter.cgi is still online for those who wants to get rolling faster. This solution is particularly easy to implement for

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Dan Shafer
Delphi has been around for more years than Rev. I remember very clearly going through some really, really buggy early experiences with that product as well. And please don't misunderstand me. I agree there are issues in the IDE. The things you cited in your email have all been worked

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Dar Scott
On Jun 5, 2005, at 7:30 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: I'd like to go like the open secure socket command where I can simply choose to ignore verification. Maybe for this specific post you can. Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab)

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/5/05 6:20 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: I am also in the process of making the first (as far as i know) runrev-only coding contest. this or next week i will announce the details of the coding contest. The url for it is http://contest.wecode.org (thanks andre) Any chance you could wait

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jun 5, 2005, at 11:10 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Maybe for this specific post you can. Dar Dar, I haven't found any optional parameter to the post command that would allow me to ignore that error... is there any? like: post myData to url https://myserver/mycgi.cgi; without verification

Re: running rev cgi on Mac OS 8.6 Personal web server?

2005-06-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/5/05 7:34 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: My guess is you could be thinking of WebStar (http://www.4d.com/ products/webstar.html). Right. It had been so long I couldn't remember the name. And per Robert's note, I did mean AppleEvents, not AppleScript. Blech, I should give up tonight. ;) Dan

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Dar Scott
On Jun 5, 2005, at 8:19 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: I haven't found any optional parameter to the post command that would allow me to ignore that error... is there any? like: post myData to url https://myserver/mycgi.cgi; without verification I don't know of any. I'm assuming Dave will jump

Re: HTTPS and Root.pem...

2005-06-05 Thread Dar Scott
I've been thinking about your error. On Jun 5, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: error -Error with certificate at depth: 1 The depth starts at 0. The error is for the next depth, the signer. issuer = /C=ZA /ST=Western Cape /L=Cape Town /O=Thawte Consulting cc

Re: dump newbie image questiosn

2005-06-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/5/05 8:32 PM, Jon wrote: My viewer is not a standard viewer. I've implemented a variety of useful features that require that I manage each pixel individually (basically doing custom and complex brightness and contrast stretching). Rev is way too slow to do anything like that. I went

Re: clear fields

2005-06-05 Thread Sarah Reichelt
on mouseUp repeat with x = 1 to the number of flds put empty into fld x end repeat end mouseUp Now this works ok except that the card has some labels and the script clears the label contents. I use this sort of script which only clears editable fields. on mouseUp repeat with x = 1

Re: Alternating Sizes of a Drawer and a Regular Window

2005-06-05 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Hi Greg, For reasons unknown to me, the following handler does not increase the height of the window to 538 when it is about to be displayed as a drawer. Greg drawer theStack on preOpenStack if the mode of this stack is 13 then revChangeWindowSize 261,538 set the

Re: running rev cgi on Mac OS 8.6 Personal web server?

2005-06-05 Thread Robert Brenstein
On Jun 5, 2005, at 9:40 PM, Robert Brenstein wrote: Yes, all you need is an appleevent handler that checks for web event and replies to it by sending html page. My old starter.cgi is still online for those who wants to get rolling faster. This solution is particularly easy to implement for

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future??? - great idea!

2005-06-05 Thread Judy Perry
Yup. It's the 'web ueber alles' mentality that is unfortunately all-too-prevalent, especially in education. I would like to see it done just so that we can say so. Then let it be. Get back to our standalones!!! ;-) Judy On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Marian Petrides wrote: Can't answer the question

Re: running rev cgi on Mac OS 8.6 Personal web server?

2005-06-05 Thread Bill Vlahos
Andre, I don't really know if people need this any more as I suspect that most have moved on to the UNIX way of doing things but it is very cool. If you do implement it then I suspect a number of people would find it interesting. Bill Vlahos On Jun 5, 2005, at 6:47 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

Re: Rev. User Groups in the USA?

2005-06-05 Thread Rodney Somerstein
I live in the Philadelphia area and would become a member of a local user group if such existed. -Rodney -- Rodney Somerstein Meditation... it's not what you think. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend;

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Judy Perry
But, I thought that access to the Flash file format was the big reason why we can't embed Flash files in Rev. Probably, with the exception of a brave very few souls, most of the ed community (and/or anyone else) doesn't give a flying, flaming fig about Roadster. But any sort of reasonably easy

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Judy Perry
Hi Klaus, Yup; this is what I suspected it was. And, while I agree, this simply WILL NOT counter the 'web ueber alles' mentality. Period. Too geeky, too, I don't know what, too s not what's happening today or some such thing. In some (unmentioned) communities, it is all but a religious

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Judy Perry
Andre, It's NOT about logic. It's about dogma. I agree with you. But it's irrelevant. It comes down to this: Do we want some of these people to produce crappy stuff with FrontPage; Do we want the somewhat geekier segment of them doing maybe slightly less crappy stuff in Flash; or do we want

Re: Beyond the Browser (was Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???)

2005-06-05 Thread Judy Perry
I swear I'm gonna start making it required reading in my class, as my CS majors (and probably alot of other people out there, too) are under the impression that multimedia = web-delivered content = Flash or whatever. Not that I'm knocking Flash (but I've sure seen plenty of completely useless,

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I'm curious. How many of you use Rev to make a living, and how many of you just play with it. I'm at the point where I can't believe anyone could use it to do serious development. It is just too buggy, syntax idiosyncrasies and sloth aside. And how many of you successfully deploy

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Judy Perry
Troy, True enough. But equally, if not more, likely is the arena in which web-delivered content is dogma. I agree with Marian that, in many cases, those in decision-making capacities lack the knowledge or interest in making an intelligent decision in the matter. Try spending 25 years in higher

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Judy Perry
Andre: EXACTLY!!! De ja vous! Been there, heard that!! (How can you tell I work at a publicly-funded university?) Judy On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Andre Garzia wrote: distance learning tool for those in rural areas. If you could just see the monster they created, imagine this: HTML + Microsoft

Re: Dreamcard Roadster in the future???

2005-06-05 Thread Judy Perry
I don't think that it is the similar (or not) environment that some yearn for; it's the eventual deliverability on Macs and PCs, in this case, with the specificity of over the web being the point of interest. Judy On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Brian Yennie wrote: Simply put, the majority of Revolution

Re: who's out there?

2005-06-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Brian- Thanks. Well put. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

OT: antivirus software and the like

2005-06-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Jon- Sunday, June 5, 2005, 10:27:50 AM, you wrote: J Any particular reason why you use/like NOD32? Everyone's got personal preferences about system software - it's like text editor preferences - a lot of it depends on what you're used to. I've had nothing but bad experiences with Symantec

Re: Re: delete object problem

2005-06-05 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Bob, Is there a way for the end user to old down the delete key and then click on a field or button within a group and have that object delete? Not AFAIK, and it would be very strange for the user to do that... better yet might be a context menu that pops up when they right-click on the

Re: Re: delete object problem

2005-06-05 Thread Bob Hartley
You wrote: Hi Bob, Good Morning Malte Even though I agree with Ken that this would be strange behaviour it is possible technically (assuming the lockText of the field is true). Yes the locktext is true in the card script: on mouseDown if 65288 is in the keysDown then

Re: Re: delete object problem

2005-06-05 Thread Malte Brill
How do you find out the number of a key when pressed? Hi Bob, try this in a card on mouseDown put the keysDown end mouseDown this will show the number of all keys that are pressed, seperated by a comma, on mouseDown. Most keys can be checked this way. (The only 3 I know that aren´t in

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