Bongu Jim,
All stated that it would NOT be accepted in any corporate
environment in Europe as
corporations were banning the use of such devices by people in the office.
No employees were allowed to use such a device in the office.
What follows is a rant...please feel free to trash it without
Jim,
All stated that it would NOT be accepted in any corporate
environment in Europe as
corporations were banning the use of such devices by people in the office.
No employees were allowed to use such a device in the office.
I must say I'm surprised to hear this.
From my limited experience,
At 8:28 AM -0500 1/13/06, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Safe Portable App-ing
Would using the 'Portable Apps' with a flash drive (whatever you wish
to call them) be a non-runner with any corporate situation?
I cannot imagine businesses being very enthusiastic about the
possibility of employees
, etc. So I'm not sure Ken's
'secret shuffleboard techniques guidebook' may stay secret for long!
-Chipp
sims wrote:
At 8:28 AM -0500 1/13/06, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Safe Portable App-ing
Would using the 'Portable Apps' with a flash drive (whatever you wish
to call them) be a non-runner
YES the newer solid drives are fast enough to real-time record 2
channels of 24/96 audio, if that can be used as a benchmark!.
sqb
Just guessing, but even if it's non-volatile RAM, I would expect it
to be faster than a hard drive as typically RAM writes are
significantly faster than hard
Bongu Jim,
I cannot imagine businesses being very enthusiastic about the
possibility of employees being able to copy data and leaving the
office with that data (credit card info, health info, guided missile
blueprints, Ken Ray's 'secret shuffleboard techniques guidebook',
Removable media
Mark, et al:
if you
meant to say USB then you should consider switching to USB 2.0.
Yes, I did; and yes the USB ports on my TPC are 2.0. I'm not sure of
the rating of the Jump Drive and don't have the specs handy. I
personally use the USB drive almost exclusive for transferring files
Still - he faces a future where solid state drives might eventually
render the HD useless...so he's biased...
I was able to turn up an interview with Seagate CEO Bill Watkins
which addresses this:
If you want to have a very rich audio or video experience,
no matter what you do,
Stephen Barncard wrote:
..so he's biased...
Who isn't?
I think we've seen in this thread enough evidence that IF you're using
USB 2.0 and IF you have one of the most recent Flash drives, the speed
difference is negligible. And considering growth in this sector, I'd be
surprised if
Richard, et al:
I think we've seen in this thread enough evidence that IF you're
using USB 2.0 and IF you have one of the most recent Flash drives,
the speed difference is negligible.
Here are my results, timed by stopwatch repeated twice, from the
second mouse click on the 91+ MB app to
All:
To me the key then becomes what per centage of users don't have USB
2.0...unless you have a song dance ready to distract them for two
minutes. :{`)
OTOH, once a self-contained Rev standalone is loaded, it's entirely
in RAM; so the downside is only experienced during
initialization.
Hi Andre,
I am late on the thread,
Chipp is proposing to leave his computer at the office and take his
software to client/demo sites on a USB drive and run it from same.
He asked for others' thoughts, and I noted how long large
applications took to load via USB on my Powerbook.
Rob
At 8:28 AM -0800 1/14/06, Rob Cozens wrote:
Removable media [Bernouli cartridges] made sense to me as IS manager
of Omega Corp. in the mid 1980s, and it still makes sense to me in
any business where the ratio of computers to computer users is less
than one-to-one.
Removable media makes it
Andre,
Actually, that's not the real genesis of this thread. I'm thinking of
converting my commercial apps to 'portable' apps, that way when people
purchase them, they can have the option of putting them on a removable
drive if they wish. There are a few other positive upsides
Rob-
Saturday, January 14, 2006, 9:44:45 AM, you wrote:
* Apple system profiler rates the USB port at up to 12MB/sec, yet
actual performance is worse than the internal CD (.83 MB/sec).
That's a USB 1.x port on the computer (sometimes referred to as full
speed) as opposed to a USB 2.0 port
I have to say I find it amusing that this portable apps
concept is being touted as the next big thing. In days of
old, virtually all Mac system 7/8 apps were portable -- it
didn't matter from which location they were run. Then came
the push to follow the Windows lead of having assigned
Safe Portable App-ing
An important thing to keep in mind when using portable applications
is that they can be used to spread viruses between machines. While
this isn't as much of an issue when you own or are responsible for
both the machines you are using it on (say work and home), it can
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Safe Portable App-ing
An important thing to keep in mind when using portable applications
Hi Chipp,
Any thoughts about this before I take the leap?
One issue no one has mentioned is loading time for large stacks.
I can run my Photo Portfolio standalone [almost 100 MB] from a UBC
Jump Drive or from a CD-ROM; but it takes well over a minute to load.
Rob Cozens, CCW
Serendipity
Rob-
Friday, January 13, 2006, 8:15:29 AM, you wrote:
I can run my Photo Portfolio standalone [almost 100 MB] from a UBC
Jump Drive or from a CD-ROM; but it takes well over a minute to load.
I'm not surprised about the CDROM speeds - they're about the same as a
floppy disk (...anybody
Mark Wieder wrote:
Rob-
Friday, January 13, 2006, 8:15:29 AM, you wrote:
I can run my Photo Portfolio standalone [almost 100 MB] from a UBC
Jump Drive or from a CD-ROM; but it takes well over a minute to load.
I'm not surprised about the CDROM speeds - they're about the same as a
floppy
Just guessing, but even if it's non-volatile RAM, I would expect it to
be faster than a hard drive as typically RAM writes are significantly
faster than hard disk writes (think of your virtual memory cache).
-Chipp
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I could be mistaken, but I believe the difference is
Chipp Walters wrote:
Just guessing, but even if it's non-volatile RAM, I would expect it to
be faster than a hard drive as typically RAM writes are significantly
faster than hard disk writes (think of your virtual memory cache).
Very different mechanism under the hood, from what little I
Hmmm, Interesting.
I was able to find some benchmarking:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/05/20/data_transfer_on_the_run/page11.html
and at 20Mb/second for some USB 2.0 flash drives, I doubt it really
matters which is faster.
best,
Chipp
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I still haven't found
I have to say I find it amusing that this portable apps concept is being
touted as the next big thing. In days of old, virtually all Mac system
7/8 apps were portable -- it didn't matter from which location they were
run. Then came the push to follow the Windows lead of having assigned
locations
I've been thinking a lot about this lately-- and I'm leaning on the side
of creating next versions of my apps as mostly portable from now on.
Portable apps have the distinguishing feature they are entirely
self-contained in a single folder and can even be stored on USB drives
if the user
Chipp Walters wrote:
I've been thinking a lot about this lately-- and I'm leaning on the
side of creating next versions of my apps as mostly portable from now
on. Portable apps have the distinguishing feature they are entirely
self-contained in a single folder and can even be stored on USB
From: Chipp Walters
I've been thinking a lot about this lately-- and I'm leaning on the side
of creating next versions of my apps as mostly portable from now on.
. . .
Any thoughts about this before I take the leap?
My apps are completely portable, so far. I run them from a USB jumpdrive,
Chipp Walters wrote:
I've been thinking a lot about this lately-- and I'm leaning on the side
of creating next versions of my apps as mostly portable from now on.
Portable apps have the distinguishing feature they are entirely
self-contained in a single folder and can even be stored on USB
?
(with the user having the choice of putting data elsewhere, of course).
Yes, indeed something like that.
How do portable apps work out for the non-portable user ?
They could install it anywhere they like on their hard drive. Program
Files if they wanted to.
One more thought - are you
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