Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-17 Thread Achim Nierbeck
? I can only find rather old messages in this regard. Thanks, Sam -- View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Running-Karaf-without-PAX-Logging-tp3177504p3421252.html Sent from the Karaf - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-15 Thread Johan Edstrom
The osgi standards are properties based, just like all old log4j config files. Having it as config admin allows JMX bundles, etc etc to participate in the logging setup. An XML config file would in the current environment require something like an MBean, a parser, possibly a config injector etc

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread samspy
Is there any ongoing effort for a Logback backend to Karaf? I can only find rather old messages in this regard. Thanks, Sam -- View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Running-Karaf-without-PAX-Logging-tp3177504p3421252.html Sent from the Karaf - User mailing list

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread Achim Nierbeck
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Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread Guillaume Nodet
messages in this regard. Thanks, Sam -- View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Running-Karaf-without-PAX-Logging-tp3177504p3421252.html Sent from the Karaf - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Guillaume Nodet

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread samspy
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Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread Guillaume Nodet
messages in this regard. Thanks, Sam -- View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Running-Karaf-without-PAX-Logging-tp3177504p3421252.html Sent from the Karaf - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Guillaume Nodet

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread ceki
On Oct 14, 2011 3:47:54 am Guillaume Nodet wrote: The main problem I see with logback is that there's no properties based configuration for logback. That's a real problem imho because we would not be able to leverage the OSGi ConfigAdmin which is a key point in order to have a clean

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread Guillaume Nodet
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 17:21, ceki c...@qos.ch wrote: On Oct 14, 2011 3:47:54 am Guillaume Nodet wrote: The main problem I see with logback is that there's no properties based configuration for logback. That's a real problem imho because we would not be able to leverage the OSGi

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread samspy
Hi Guillaume I assume you missed my http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Running-Karaf-without-PAX-Logging-tp3177504p3421434.html post , where I linked the published reasons for switching to logback as well as stating our own. Could you perhaps briefly explain why the backend logging configuration

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread samspy
I read your answer too quickly... Answering my own question: for logging I suppose you wish to enforce configuration admin service, so a seperate configuration file is not welcome. -- View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Running-Karaf-without-PAX-Logging

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread ceki
On 14/10/2011 5:48 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Thank you for your quick response. I do care a lot about logback being configure with properties to be able to leverage ConfigAdmin. It should be *the* way to configure things in OSGi. That way, you can distribute the configuration remotely or

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread Guillaume Nodet
. To your other reply, you're right, I want to enforce ConfigAdmin. On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 18:04, samspy sam.spyc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guillaume I assume you missed my http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Running-Karaf-without-PAX-Logging-tp3177504p3421434.html post , where I linked the published

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread Guillaume Nodet
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 18:27, ceki c...@qos.ch wrote: On 14/10/2011 5:48 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Thank you for your quick response. I do care a lot about logback being configure with properties to be able to leverage ConfigAdmin. It should be *the* way to configure things in OSGi.

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread David Jencks
It might not fit too well with the felix/karaf idea of installing config admin pid configs through .cfg property files, but config admin has no problem dealing with a string property that is an entire xml document. So I'd go for a handy way to initialize such config admin properties rather

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Yeah, but you loose the ability to easily configure one logger level or such. Fine grained configuration is much easier imho, but you're right, it would work too. On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 19:28, David Jencks david_jen...@yahoo.com wrote: It might not fit too well with the felix/karaf idea of

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread ceki
On 14/10/2011 7:28 PM, David Jencks wrote: It might not fit too well with the felix/karaf idea of installing config admin pid configs through .cfg property files, but config admin has no problem dealing with a string property that is an entire xml document. So I'd go for a handy way to

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread David Jencks
On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:43 AM, ceki wrote: On 14/10/2011 7:28 PM, David Jencks wrote: It might not fit too well with the felix/karaf idea of installing config admin pid configs through .cfg property files, but config admin has no problem dealing with a string property that is an entire xml

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread David Jencks
I'm not sure finding the right bit of an xml configuration and editing it is harder than finding the right property and editing it. dunno, seems like a config admin interface issue. thanks david jencks On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Yeah, but you loose the ability

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-10-14 Thread ceki
On 14/10/2011 9:36 PM, David Jencks wrote: What I'm proposing would not involve logback reading a file, but rather config admin supplying the xml logback configuration to logback as a single string. Sure, that would work too. -- Ceki

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-07-25 Thread Guillaume Nodet
: Excellent. I'll give it a try and report back with steps taken -- View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Running-Karaf-without-PAX-Logging-tp3177504p3177529.html Sent from the Karaf - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Guillaume Nodet

Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-07-24 Thread Andreas Pieber
: Excellent. I'll give it a try and report back with steps taken -- View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Running-Karaf-without-PAX-Logging-tp3177504p3177529.html Sent from the Karaf - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-07-17 Thread codeoncoffee
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Re: Running Karaf without PAX Logging

2011-07-17 Thread Guillaume Nodet
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