have been useful, and fun to fix).
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On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 9:24 PM, haosdent <haosd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh, @Marco. Thank you very much for your reply, vinodkone shepherd this
> and it have already submitted after other kindly
/browse/MESOS-3841)
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:34 AM, haosdent <haosd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We intend to introduce a breaking change[1] in the http endpoints without
> the deprecation cycle.
> For below http endpoin
a "material" change for the Agent and I would avoid trying to
recover state from previous runs; but, again, there may be perfectly
legitimate cases in which this is desirable.
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Zhitao Li <zhitaoli...@gma
protobuf [0]
I don't know enough of Marathon to really be able to help there - but if
you post the question in their user group, I'm sure there's a less involved
way to do this if you use it. :)
[0] ./include/mesos/mesos.proto LL #206
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2016
+1 to what Neil says
plus, if you don't need all the info contained in /state, /state-summary is
a much faster option.
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On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Neil Conway <neil.con...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are some known performance
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Marco Massenzio <m.massen...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Is there a 0.27.0-rc2 branch cut?
>
> $ git fetch --all
> Fetching origin
>
> $ git co 0.27.0-rc2
> error: pathspec '0.27.0-rc2' did not match any file(s) known to git.
>
> well, or
Is there a 0.27.0-rc2 branch cut?
$ git fetch --all
Fetching origin
$ git co 0.27.0-rc2
error: pathspec '0.27.0-rc2' did not match any file(s) known to git.
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:12 PM, Michael Park <mp...@apache.org> wrote:
&g
Thanks, buddy - I keep forgetting that one!
(one assumes --all would, well, take care of that too :)
Have a great weekend!
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Vinod Kone <vinodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Git fetch --tags
>
> @vinodkone
>
me I looked into it).
Hope this helps!
[0]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Mesos%20and%20text%20~%20%22etcd%22
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1806
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b.com/massenz/zk-mesos/blob/develop/notebooks/Demo-API.ipynb
[1]
https://github.com/massenz/mongo_fw/blob/develop/src/mongo_scheduler.cpp#L194
[2]
https://github.com/massenz/mongo_fw/blob/develop/src/mongo_scheduler.cpp#L70
[3]
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=mesos.git;a=tree;f=src/ex
ermissions around the
/var/run folder - what happens if you try to run the very same command that
failed, from the shell?
(but I do see that you mount it with the -v, so that should work, shouldn't
it?)
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On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Taylor, Graham <
ake this work - so there
may be some other trickery at work.
[0] https://google-glog.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/glog.html
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On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Nan Xiao <xiaonan830...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I want mesos prints logs
contribute back to
documenting how you did it, contributions always welcome!
[0] http://mesos.apache.org/documentation/latest/operational-guide/
[1] http://mesos.apache.org/documentation/latest/maintenance/
[2] http://mesos.apache.org/documentation/latest/upgrades/
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does not support DNS resolution).
You are correct in that Mesos does not currently support dynamically
changing the ZK's addresses, but I don't know whether that's a limitation
of Mesos code or of the ZK C++ client driver.
I'll look into it and let you know what I find (if anything).
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>> and PMC member!
>> >
>> > Welcome Kapil, and thanks for all of your great contributions to the
>> project so far!
>> >
>> > Looking forward to lots more of your contributions!
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Till
>>
>
>
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I'm almost sure that you're running into
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-3030
(there is a patch out to fix this: https://reviews.apache.org/r/39230/)
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 4:54 PM, yuankui <ku
emeral_ports:[32768-57344]"
--revocable_cpu_low_priority="true"
--sandbox_directory="/var/local/sandbox" --strict="true"
--switch_user="true" --version="false" --work_dir="/var/local/mesos/agent"
(this is run off the Vagrantfile at
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Marco Massenzio <ma...@mesosphere.io>
wrote:
> Are those the stdout logs of the Agent? Because I don't see the
> --launcher-dir set, however, if I look into one that is running off the
> same 0.24.1 package, this is what I see:
>
> I1012
file a Jira requesting this as a feature on the Master?
Thanks!
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On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Marcus Larsson <marcus.lars...@oracle.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2015-10-09 15:26,
, so quite looking forward to where you guys are
going to take it!
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On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Taylor, Graham <
graham.x.tay...@capgemini.com> wrote:
>
> __
:)
I would recommend staying away from the /state.json (soon to be /state) as
it demands a heavy toll on the Master and you may end up DOS'ing your own
cluster.
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On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Kl
, please?
(marco-mesos)
Thanks!
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Rad Gruchalski <ra...@gruchalski.com>
wrote:
> Thank you, that’s some progress:
>
> I changed the code at this line:
>
feel
free to correct me).
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Alex Rukletsov <a...@mesosphere.com> wrote:
> James—
>
> Marco will correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that this
.. but we're working on it!
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Zameer Manji <zma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Could mesosphere donate their tooling for packaging mesos to the project?
> This way any p
for
non-C++ developers to have to link with libmesos and have to deal with
Protocol Buffers.
An example of how to access the new format in Python can be found in [0]
and we're happy to help with other languages too.
Any questions, please just ask.
[0] http://github.com/massenz/zk-mesos
Marco
humans getting in the way :) but this may take some time.
We're building the 0.24 ones as we speak, so please bear with us while this
gets done.
Any questions / suggestions, we'd love to hear those too!
[0] https://mesosphere.com/downloads/
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Thanks, Stephen - feedback much appreciated!
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Stephen Boesch <java...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Compared to Yarn Mesos is just faster. Mesos has a smalle
ation easier/faster.
Cheers,
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Stephen Boesch <java...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Vinod. I went back to see the logs and nothing interesting .
> However int
der /mesos a
number of json.info_nn nodes will appear (whose contents are JSON so
you can double check that the contents make sense).
You can find more info here[0].
[0]
http://codetrips.com/2015/08/16/apache-mesos-leader-master-discovery-using-zookeeper-part-2/
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Thanks for follow-up, Stephen - this will be also useful to others finding
this in the archives!
Glad it eventually worked for you, I'll drop a line to our guys to update
the download page with this information, so it should hopefully be less
painful in the future for others.
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and various includes, they will
be under /usr/local (you can change that by using something like:
../configure --prefix /path/to/install/dir
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On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Stephen Boesch <java...@
argh - sorry!
${MESOS_HOME}/build/bin
(I'd mixed the two around)
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On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Marco Massenzio <ma...@mesosphere.io> wrote:
> I think you are looking into the wr
mping them and making them more accessible.
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On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Stephen Boesch <java...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Craig . That is an incomplete answer - given that such links are not
/issues/?filter=12333150
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On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Vinod Kone <vinodk...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> Please vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache Mesos 0.24.
@Steven - agreed!
As mentioned, if we can reduce the "footprint of unnecessary CHECKs" (so to
speak) I'm all for it - let's document and add Jiras for that, by all means.
@Scott - LoL: you certainly didn't; I was more worried my email would ;-)
Thanks, guys!
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*D
Hey guys,
just a quick note to bring back the conversation on track to the 0.24-RC1
release.
Is my understanding correct that there are currently no binding -1's?
@Vinod: what do you think, are we good to release?
Thanks!
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Cool - I'll ping Joseph on that one.
(the -1 from Nik was related to the known ROOT test issues that -if memory
serves- we agreed were non-blocking: I'll follow up with him too)
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On Tue, Sep 1
Awesome - we'll be running RC2 through our CI env and let you know the
outcome soon as we know.
Thanks!
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On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Vinod Kone <vinodk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
here are areas where we have been over-eager
with our CHECKs, we should definitely revisit that and make it more
crash-resistant, absolutely.
[0] http://research.google.com/pubs/pub43438.html
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` and replace the JAR?
(not terribly familiar with our build process, so no idea if that would
work at all).
[0] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html
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On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:46 PM,
://github.com/mesos/commons/pull/2/files
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On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Philip Weaver <philip.wea...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> My framework knows the list of zookeeper hosts and the list of mesos
Thanks for following up, glad we figured it out.
IMO the current behavior (and the error message) are non-intuitive and I've
filed a Jira[0] to address that.
[0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-3340
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.org/repos/asf?p=mesos.git;a=blob;f=3rdparty/libprocess/3rdparty/stout/include/stout/flags.hpp
[1]
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=mesos.git;a=blob;f=src/master/flags.hpp
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On Sun, Aug 30, 2015
%20Tests.ipynb
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Paul Bell arach...@gmail.com wrote:
Alex Tim,
Thank you both; most helpful.
Alex, can you dispel my confusion on this point: I keep reading
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Marco Massenzio ma...@mesosphere.io
wrote:
Great talks today, can't wait to get hands on the new APIs.
You can ;)
Mesos 0.25-rc1 is out for grabs and testing...
And, of course, I meant *0.24-rc1* ... this is what happens when one spends
all day building
Great talks today, can't wait to get hands on the new APIs.
You can ;)
Mesos 0.25-rc1 is out for grabs and testing...
will require building from source: not for the faint of heart, but not an
insurmountable hurdle either.
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of the user under
which the slave binary executes?
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Ashwanth Kumar ashwa...@indix.com wrote:
We've a 20 node mesos cluster running mesos v0.21.1, We run marathon on
top
to be available on
the Slave(s)).
If you do use an HTTP URI (http://) then it should work just fine.
Hopefully others will be able to chime in with a more informed view.
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:46 AM
For info, the patch was committed today and made the cut to 0.24-rc1.
Thanks to @vinodkone for super-quick turnaround.
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Marco Massenzio ma...@mesosphere.io
wrote:
Hi Ashwanth,
I've pushed a fix out for review https
FYI - Joris is out this week, he'll be probably able to get back to you
early next (modulo MesosCon craziness :)
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Carlos Sanchez car...@apache.org wrote:
no suggestions?
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Vinod
and exciting!
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Paul Bell arach...@gmail.com wrote:
All,
By way of some background: I'm not running a data center (or centers).
Rather, I work on a distributed application
] ZooKeeper group PIDs: {
log-replica(1)@127.0.1.1:5050, log-replica(1)@71.100.14.9:5050 }
(but that's because of my lack of deep understanding of how the
log-replicas work)
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Paul Bell arach...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Paul Bell arach...@gmail.com wrote:
Marco hasodent,
This is just a quick note to say thank you for your replies.
No problem, you're welcome.
I will answer you much more fully tomorrow, but for now can only manage a
few quick observations questions:
the env
vars to be configured properly)
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On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Stephen Knight skni...@pivotal.io wrote:
Ok, that's working if I run it like this: /usr/sbin/mesos-slave
--master=zk://172.31.x.x:2181
://github.com/nqn/nibbler
.
Hope this helps.
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On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Sam Chen usultra...@gmail.com wrote:
Haosdent ,
Let me bring one example on the table . We are using Mesos and Marathon ,
and deployed two tier application (web tier
, granted, but that's just a hard
problem to solve anyway.
I'm planning to provide sample code and a blog entry about this soon as I
have time, but it won't be before this weekend at the earliest (and more
likely the next one).
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2015
cluster) meet your requirements.
Hope this helps.
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On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 10:15 AM, tommy xiao xia...@gmail.com wrote:
today i reading ZooKeeper Resilience at Pinterest (
https://engineering.pinterest.com/blog/zookeeper-resilience-pinterest
Great news, indeed!
Thanks, Adam, for all the hard work in driving this release to fruition,
you're a star!
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On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote:
Good news, everyone!
The vote for Mesos 0.23.0 (rc4) has
failures and it complains about already existing cgroups hierarchies; so
I'm assuming the earlier test run left the system in an unclean state.
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote:
+1 (binding) to Mesos 0.23.0
the smallest
footprint OS (CoreOS springs to mind) and maximize resources for tasks.
Keep us posted on how you progress, I may eventually go down the same path
:)
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Gaston, Dan dan.gas...@nshealth.ca wrote
] PerfTest.ROOT_SamplePid
10 FAILED TESTS
YOU HAVE 12 DISABLED TESTS
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Vinod Kone vinodk...@gmail.com wrote:
+1 (binding)
Successfully built RPMs for CentOS5 and CentOS6 with network isolator.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:56
FAILED TESTS
YOU HAVE 12 DISABLED TESTS
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Marco Massenzio ma...@mesosphere.io
wrote:
Ubuntu 14.04
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, `sudo make distcheck` fails -
re-running after a `make clean
Just to add my +1
Built Make check on Ubuntu 14.04
With Without SSL / libevent
(no 'sudo' - can test all 4 variants this evening on rc4)
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Timothy Chen tnac...@gmail.com wrote:
As Adam mention I also think this is not a blocker, as
Adam - thanks.
Please let me know soon as you push an rc4, if I'm still home, I can test
it against Ubuntu 14.04 with/without SSL, with/without sudo (or I can
always VPN in :)
Very minor doc update: https://reviews.apache.org/r/36532/
(feel free to ignore).
Thanks, everyone!
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* shed some light (or add to the confusion).
IMO we should require Python == 2.7 (no idea if we can support Python 3, my
guess is we can't, because of this
https://github.com/google/protobuf/issues/9), but that's probably another
story.
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) distinct
from a 'run tests' step (which must run sequentially).
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On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Vinod Kone vinodk...@gmail.com wrote:
As a tangent, you can speed up the build by doing make -j#threads
check.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Jeff
on to the
Frameworks along with the resource offers: the frameworks could then decide
whether to accept the offer and launch tasks based on whatever logic you
want to implement.
You could use something like --attributes=cluster:01z99; os:ubuntu-14-04;
jdk:8 or whatever makes sense.
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: [VOTE] Release Apache Mesos 0.23.0 (rc1)
+1
2015-07-04 12:32 GMT+08:00 Weitao zhouwtl...@gmail.com:
+1
发自我的 iPhone
在 2015年7月4日，09:41，Marco Massenzio ma...@mesosphere.io 写道：
+1
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Adam Bordelon
if you need more info).
Hope this helps.
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On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Donald Laidlaw donlaid...@me.com wrote:
Has anyone ever developed Java code to detect the mesos masters and
leader, given a zookeeper connection?
The reason I ask
+1
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote:
Hello Mesos community,
Please vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache Mesos 0.23.0.
0.23.0 includes the following
guessing they may not be able to share much either?
2015-07-02 1:38 GMT+08:00 Marco Massenzio ma...@mesosphere.io:
Hi Tommy,
not sure what your use-case is, but you are correct, the master/slave
nodes need to have bi-directional connectivity.
However, there is no fundamental reason why those
): that
is meant to be a read-only file (well, unless one is doing development on
Mesos itself).
We have made RENDLER publicly available as an example framework:
https://github.com/mesosphere/RENDLER
HTH
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On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:23 AM, haosdent haosd
availability and/or reliability and/or security?
It would be great to understand the use-case, so we could see what could be
added (if anything) to Mesos going forward.
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On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:15 AM, tommy xiao xia...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I would
/35815/
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they can be used by other folks!
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On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Alex Rukletsov a...@mesosphere.com wrote:
For downloads, use https://mesosphere.com/downloads/
Elastic Mesos has been decommissioned, use https://google.mesosphere.com/
or https
That's awesome, Pablo - will definitely be fooling around with it!
Thanks for using Mesos, BTW - always good to see folks building cool stuff
on top of it :)
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On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Pablo Cingolani
pablo.e.cingol...@gmail.com wrote
Thanks, Keith, for sharing this!
That's pretty cool stuff, I guess we'll have to check Shipped out ;)
Thanks for using Mesos!
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On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Keith Chambers (kechambe)
kecha...@cisco.com wrote:
Hello Adam,
Yesterday
.
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On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:10 AM, John Omernik j...@omernik.com wrote:
Here is the testing I am doing. I used a simple script (run.sh) It writes
the user it is running as to stderr (so it's the same log as the errors
from file writing
At Google there are always to do everything: the deprecated one and the
one that's not quite ready yet
I'm sure Borg is alive and well (but deprecated) and Omega has been
deployed (but ain't quite ready yet)
They were already working on it in 2010, I'm sure they're still at it.
Will confirm
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