Re: [libreoffice-users] Retrofitting a template to a document
2014-04-17 7:37 GMT+02:00 Toki toki.kant...@gmail.com: Can somebody point me to an easy way to add the source template data back to the file? Look for the Template Changer extension; it should do what you want. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Playing Video in a Dialog
On The French user site i found usefull code to play video on Windows using the API and Basic. The code opens a MediaWindow and play any video The player has a undocumented method CreatePlayerWindow who needs arguments (a empty array do crash LO) Do someone knows how to use this method and how Video can been played in a Dialog ? Thanks for any hints Global video Global oPlayer Global Player_flag, Video_flag, Time ' -- Sub VideoPlayer If Video_flag = 0 Then video =converttoURL(C:\Users\PMG\Videos\Untitled.avi) ' La vidéo à charger Video_flag = 1 'for windows: oManager = CreateUnoService(com.sun.star.media.Manager_DirectX) ' for Linux ' oManager = CreateUnoService(com.sun.star.media.Manager_GStreamer) End Select oPlayer = oManager.createPlayer( video ) ' oPlayer.CreatePlayerwindow(array()) ' do crash LO oPlayer.start() ' Lecture Player_flag = 1 Else oPlayer.start() ' Lecture Player_flag = 1 End If End Sub ' -- Sub VideoPlayer_pause If Player_flag = 1 Then oPlayer.stop() ' Pause Player_flag = 0 Time = oPlayer.getmediatime() End If End Sub ' -- Sub VideoPlayer_avance_rapide If Player_flag = 0 Then oPlayer.setmediatime(Time +1) ' Avance_rapide Time = oPlayer.getmediatime() End If End Sub ' -- Sub VideoPlayer_recul_rapide If Player_flag = 0 Then oPlayer.setmediatime(Time -1) ' Recul_rapide Time = oPlayer.getmediatime() End If End Sub ' -- Sub VideoPlayer_stop oPlayer.stop() ' Pause 'Video_flag = 1 Time = 0 oPlayer.setmediatime(Time) End Sub -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Calc file size suddenly by 400x
Good evening I do have a not so big Calc file for my personal accounting (keeping track of my work) The one from last year was about 160 kb. This year's contains naturally less data. And that suddenly jumped to 27 MB and file constantly crashes. Copying the data into a new few file gives me about 78 kb. Where does that giant data package of 27 MB suddenly come from? Can I get rid of it? Thank you Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc file size suddenly by 400x
2014-04-17 12:29 GMT+02:00 Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp: I do have a not so big Calc file for my personal accounting (keeping track of my work) The one from last year was about 160 kb. This year's contains naturally less data. And that suddenly jumped to 27 MB and file constantly crashes. Copying the data into a new few file gives me about 78 kb. Where does that giant data package of 27 MB suddenly come from? Can I get rid of it? Hi, Do you often copy/paste data? It is possible that some behavior changed regarding this. Anyway, to find exactly what is taking so much space, you can try this: - Copy your file somewhere (just to be safe) - Rename it to .zip - Open it There, you should be able to see what file take that much space. If it's in contents.xml, then it will need further examination, but if it's in another file, it might be easier/quicker to deal with. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Character Styles
On 04/16/2014 05:41 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Neat. I was wondering what work-around you would find. The only one i thought of was to try to remember that i would have to select an area of text to make bold instead of doing the toggling method. I think your way is better though. Thanks and regards from Tom :) I always wrestle between formatting-as-I-type and formatting-after-I-type. I think the latter method is preferred as it separates content from presentation. The writer can concentrate solely on the substance of his work and it can be formatted later. That said, I find it difficult to go back through a 30 page document and find all of the instances of something that needs to be italicized, especially with small terms, such as etc., e.g., i.e., and so on. Invariably, when I try to format after my document is written, I miss something that should be formatted a special way, such as a block quote, or emphasized text. So, in practice, I tend to format as I go, and using keyboard shortcuts speeds things immensely. I've reconfigured several of the Ctrl-Key combinations to apply some of my most used paragraph styles. I'll do just about anything to keep my fingers on the home row instead of grabbing for the mouse or touchpad. Even when selecting text, I'll use the Shift-arrow keys rather than the mouse. I find it gives more precise control. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Character Styles
On 04/16/2014 06:08 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think you have gone into quite advanced usages of styles. I won't necessarily disagree with you, but I tend to think that I'm only using LO the way it the designers intended. The character styles I'm using (Emphasis, Strong Emphasis) came with the program by default. So, some LO programmer, somewhere, anticipated that they would be used in place of Ctrl-I and Ctrl-B direct formatting. If it is advanced it is only because we have become so entrenched in using word processors like digital typewriters that we've become old dogs trying to learn new tricks. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Playing Video in a Dialog
Hi :) I am guessing that you have already posted to the devs mailing list or irc channel? Also to the French mailing list? If not then it's worth trying. It seems a bit weird they have gone for a proprietary, undocumented player instead of gnash, swfplayer, totem, Vlc or some other OpenSource alternative. There probably is a reason. If it's purely down to trying to use something that you can be certain people already have on their system then Vlc might be worth a try because that is quite popular too. (plus you can always give a link for people to downnload and install an OpenSource alternative anyway (as people do for pdfs)) Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2014 10:23, Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be wrote: On The French user site i found usefull code to play video on Windows using the API and Basic. The code opens a MediaWindow and play any video The player has a undocumented method CreatePlayerWindow who needs arguments (a empty array do crash LO) Do someone knows how to use this method and how Video can been played in a Dialog ? Thanks for any hints Global video Global oPlayer Global Player_flag, Video_flag, Time ' -- Sub VideoPlayer If Video_flag = 0 Then video =converttoURL(C:\Users\PMG\Videos\Untitled.avi) ' La vidéo à charger Video_flag = 1 'for windows: oManager = CreateUnoService(com.sun.star.media.Manager_DirectX) ' for Linux ' oManager = CreateUnoService(com.sun. star.media.Manager_GStreamer) End Select oPlayer = oManager.createPlayer( video ) ' oPlayer.CreatePlayerwindow(array()) ' do crash LO oPlayer.start() ' Lecture Player_flag = 1 Else oPlayer.start() ' Lecture Player_flag = 1 End If End Sub ' -- Sub VideoPlayer_pause If Player_flag = 1 Then oPlayer.stop() ' Pause Player_flag = 0 Time = oPlayer.getmediatime() End If End Sub ' -- Sub VideoPlayer_avance_rapide If Player_flag = 0 Then oPlayer.setmediatime(Time +1) ' Avance_rapide Time = oPlayer.getmediatime() End If End Sub ' -- Sub VideoPlayer_recul_rapide If Player_flag = 0 Then oPlayer.setmediatime(Time -1) ' Recul_rapide Time = oPlayer.getmediatime() End If End Sub ' -- Sub VideoPlayer_stop oPlayer.stop() ' Pause 'Video_flag = 1 Time = 0 oPlayer.setmediatime(Time) End Sub -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book
Is there any movement to make a port for LO to Chrome OS? I ask this, since today I had to setup a Samsung Chrome 11.5 inch display mini-laptop device [and a wireless router for it since there is no wired network port]. She use to have LO on her old Win7 laptop that has some broken function keys, and some sales person convinced her to use a Chrome Book. She did not know it was not a Windows OS laptop. No LO, no Canon printer, nothing except her web-mail account[s] and Chrome browser. [which she never used before] So I ask if there is any movement towards making a Chrome OS port. Actually this Samsung Chrome uses a microSD card for some storage. I cannot tell much about it, since I do not have access to the manual. So the version of LO would need to fit on a microSD card storage, like a tablet, but it is not a tablet. This is really a really small net-book like device running Chrome OS. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book
On 04/17/2014 08:43 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Is there any movement to make a port for LO to Chrome OS? I ask this, since today I had to setup a Samsung Chrome 11.5 inch display mini-laptop device [and a wireless router for it since there is no wired network port]. She use to have LO on her old Win7 laptop that has some broken function keys, and some sales person convinced her to use a Chrome Book. She did not know it was not a Windows OS laptop. No LO, no Canon printer, nothing except her web-mail account[s] and Chrome browser. [which she never used before] So I ask if there is any movement towards making a Chrome OS port. Actually this Samsung Chrome uses a microSD card for some storage. I cannot tell much about it, since I do not have access to the manual. So the version of LO would need to fit on a microSD card storage, like a tablet, but it is not a tablet. This is really a really small net-book like device running Chrome OS I though ChromeOS was based on Linux (Ubuntu/Debian?). Does it come with a package manager? -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book
2014-04-17 14:43 GMT+02:00 Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com: So I ask if there is any movement towards making a Chrome OS port. Actually this Samsung Chrome uses a microSD card for some storage. I cannot tell much about it, since I do not have access to the manual. So the version of LO would need to fit on a microSD card storage, like a tablet, but it is not a tablet. This is really a really small net-book like device running Chrome OS. As far as I know, making an application for ChromeOS is roughly the same as making an application (note the quotes) for Chrome. This mean it's mostly html based and javascript driven. Porting LO to this kind of platform mean two things: - We get an awesome, cross-system, cross-platform office suite - We have a insane amount of work, need to rewrite *everything* from scratch, redo the UI, handle the strict restriction of browser-based applications... I'm sure you see what I mean :) It *might* be possible to run some binaries part, as it is possible with some restriction for Chrome app/extensions, but it remain a formidable task. Honestly, I wouldn't hold my breath for a port of this kind for three reasons: it's a huge task, there's little incentive to do it (way less than an android port for example), and there's a solid alternative. First alternative (easier): it is possible to install Ubuntu (or other linux OS) on a chromebook. I did that long ago, and there's a handful of tutorials on how to do so. If your chromebook is Intel based, it's even better, but as far as LO is concerned, it can be installed on ARM devices too. Second alternative (trickier): there's way less tutorials, but I vaguely remember the possibility of using real software in chromeos, mainly through command line. However I don't have any more info, and I'm not sure that it isn't restricted to command-line stuff (I'm not even sure that chromeos use an X server). Also, regarding storage space: for previous models, it was a really good idea to replace the (really) small hard drive with a better one. I don't know the specs of the newest chromebooks, but it's worth checking. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc file size suddenly by 400x
(2014/04/17 20:14), Cley Faye wrote: 2014-04-17 12:29 GMT+02:00 Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp: I do have a not so big Calc file for my personal accounting (keeping track of my work) The one from last year was about 160 kb. This year's contains naturally less data. And that suddenly jumped to 27 MB and file constantly crashes. Copying the data into a new few file gives me about 78 kb. Where does that giant data package of 27 MB suddenly come from? Can I get rid of it? Hi, Do you often copy/paste data? It is possible that some behavior changed regarding this. Anyway, to find exactly what is taking so much space, you can try this: - Copy your file somewhere (just to be safe) - Rename it to .zip - Open it There, you should be able to see what file take that much space. If it's in contents.xml, then it will need further examination, but if it's in another file, it might be easier/quicker to deal with. I am afraid, I do not understand. Renaming the file to current name.zip does not change anything. Creating a Zip Folder/file generates only ONE folder, containing ONE file = the calc file. Size as stated. I cannot see any XML file anywhere To answer the question about copying: No, I do not often copy things. Only entering data once in a while. Think of this file as a notebook. It has always worked in the past ... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc file size suddenly by 400x
2014-04-17 15:26 GMT+02:00 Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp: I am afraid, I do not understand. Renaming the file to current name.zip does not change anything. Creating a Zip Folder/file generates only ONE folder, containing ONE file = the calc file. Size as stated. I cannot see any XML file anywhere You have to change the file extension from .ods to .zip. If you're under windows, the file explorer probably hide the file extension, so you have to unhide them (it's easy, the procedure is described here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/865219/en) Once you can change the file extension to zip, you should be able to open it and see how files are laid out. You'll have something that ressemble this structure: http://i.imgur.com/eAEuZZ5.png -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book
I recently bought an Acer C 720 Chromebook, and absolutely love it. Boot times are great. Speed is super. I bought this one because of a really good Intel processor instead of ARM so I would have complete compatibility with anything I would run in Ubuntu, and also because of exceptional battery life, advertised as 8.5 hours. I've not tried to check the time, but it runs forever without a charge. I've played around a little with Google Docs, spreadsheet, and prefer to stay with LO. Another reason I went with the Acer because you can swap out the 16GB or 32GB SSD for a 56 or 128. I put a 128 in mine. The best place to buy those is Amazon as they are using the next generation SSD. You can also install Ubuntu and some other Linux systems. There are two ways to do that. One is called Chrubuntu, which is similar to a dual boot on a standard computer. The other way is to use Crouton, where you are actually running Ubuntu through the Chrome OS. I first tried Chrubuntu, and had issues installing the Document Foundation version of LO, and also Wine. I made LO work, but could never make Wine work. I'm now running Ubuntu on the Chromebook using Crouton. LO works fine there. Crouton and Chrubuntu are both in their infancy, and will only get better. I consider my Chromebook a best buy, and am thrilled with it!!! On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-17 14:43 GMT+02:00 Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com: So I ask if there is any movement towards making a Chrome OS port. Actually this Samsung Chrome uses a microSD card for some storage. I cannot tell much about it, since I do not have access to the manual. So the version of LO would need to fit on a microSD card storage, like a tablet, but it is not a tablet. This is really a really small net-book like device running Chrome OS. As far as I know, making an application for ChromeOS is roughly the same as making an application (note the quotes) for Chrome. This mean it's mostly html based and javascript driven. Porting LO to this kind of platform mean two things: - We get an awesome, cross-system, cross-platform office suite - We have a insane amount of work, need to rewrite *everything* from scratch, redo the UI, handle the strict restriction of browser-based applications... I'm sure you see what I mean :) It *might* be possible to run some binaries part, as it is possible with some restriction for Chrome app/extensions, but it remain a formidable task. Honestly, I wouldn't hold my breath for a port of this kind for three reasons: it's a huge task, there's little incentive to do it (way less than an android port for example), and there's a solid alternative. First alternative (easier): it is possible to install Ubuntu (or other linux OS) on a chromebook. I did that long ago, and there's a handful of tutorials on how to do so. If your chromebook is Intel based, it's even better, but as far as LO is concerned, it can be installed on ARM devices too. Second alternative (trickier): there's way less tutorials, but I vaguely remember the possibility of using real software in chromeos, mainly through command line. However I don't have any more info, and I'm not sure that it isn't restricted to command-line stuff (I'm not even sure that chromeos use an X server). Also, regarding storage space: for previous models, it was a really good idea to replace the (really) small hard drive with a better one. I don't know the specs of the newest chromebooks, but it's worth checking. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- *~~* Don C. Myers Manager, Farm and Rural Property Division e-PRO Certified by the National Association of Realtors Don's Cell Phone: 814-571-9518, Don's Home Phone: 814-422-8111 Don's E-mail: donmy...@myersfarm.com *RE/MAX Centre Realty **1375 Martin Street, State College, PA 16803* Office Phone: 814-231-8200 Fax: 814-231-8220 Visit the Farm and Rural Property Division web site at *www.CentralPaRuralProperty.com http://www.CentralPaRuralProperty.com/ * Visit the RE/MAX Centre Realty main web site at *www.StateCollegeHomeSales.com http://www.statecollegehomesales.com/ * View Don's Farm Web Site at www.myersfarm.com *~~* -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive:
Re: [libreoffice-users] Character Styles
Hi :) I think it's great that LibreOffice allows both systems to be used within a single document. I rarely need to completely change the entire look of any documents so direct formatting works well for me. I think this is one of those things that you can make as simple or as complex as you like. Just because a choice exists doesn't mean you have to use it. So, my use of style is very minimal but is a HUGE help that saves me often hours hours of work every time i have to import anything from certain colleagues. The only time i collaborate with others is when they give me documents for a quarterly newsletter and once i've reformatted their work i tend to never need to reformat it or make any changes at all. So the only style that really matters to me is the body text one, or the default one. The various headings help a little bit. So although styles can be far more complicated and allow much flexibility all of that is beyond my requirements. Even if i did need the more advanced stuff the biggest saving in time was with the initial paste as unformatted text and finding the text already in the format i wanted. I am glad the more complicated stuff is there so that if i ever had more advanced requirements i could upscale quite easily. However i think scaring people off by pointing out how complicated it all could be might make them miss out on the huge benefits they could get from the very simple bits of it. Oooops! sorry for ranting! I know it's not the way you meant it! Happy Easter all! :))) Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2014 02:03, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: On 04/16/2014 04:08 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote: Interesting point, Virgil. I think we need to weak a fine line between providing a tool that we can use intelligently, and forcing people to do something they don't understand. Using styles the right way is something you have to be educated about. Like you, I started by getting the idea that I could change styles throughout the document if I used them consistently. But it took longer for me to really appreciate the need to do functional style definitions. Any character can be bold for a variety of reasons, and the key is to create and use styles based on the function of that element in a document. That way, you can change a subset of all of the bold characters without changing others. But that requires starting to really think about the architecture of your information. Regards, Good points, Kevin. I'm learning that using styles takes a lot of thought and planning. I like the way I can customize LO to make it do amazing things. But, it can't be done thoughtlessly, or you'll end up redoing stuff later on. It occurs to me that, when we create style definitions, what we're really doing is making LO work more like LyX. The difference is that, with LyX, somebody else has already created really good styles (called environments) thus shielding the user from the need to create them. Problem is, when the pre-created environments don't meet your needs, you have a steep learning curve to try to change them. With LO, you can much more easily create and modify styles, but, if you want really good output, you *have* to create and modify your styles, and that takes thoughtful planning. For a person just wanting to get his project done, the need to create and customize the styles seems to get in the way. It's as if each user is actually finishing LO by making it work the way s/he prefers. In creating my LO styles, I've tried to use LyX environments as a model, mimicking their output, and tweaking where I find it helpful. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Any thoughts on Tutor.com's policy of MS Word only?
Hello, I'm thinking of applying for an online tutoring position at Tutor.com. However, they require that tutors (and applicants, for the mock tutoring session) have Microsoft Word (2007 or later) itself -- they specifically say that OpenOffice is not acceptable. I'd rather not spend $110 just to get MS Word (or $140 for MS Office, or $10/month or $100/year to rent MS Office) for this specific job, when OpenOffice/LibreOffice has worked just fine for me for the past decade. Does anyone here have any relevant experience (eg, does Tutor.com in practice allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, is it absolutely necessary to get MS Word, do you know of similar online tutoring services that allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, etc)? Thank you in advance! Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Listen to the universe while it whispers before it has to shout. Marion Grobb Finkelstein, Communication Catalyst -- http://www.MarionSpeaks.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book
2014-04-17 16:40 GMT+02:00 Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com: The other way is to use Crouton, where you are actually running Ubuntu through the Chrome OS Ah, thanks for that. The name slipped my mind, and I might need this soon too, for roughly the same reason :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book
I'm quite pleased with Crouton. It has some quirks here and there, but once you understand them, it really works well. Neither Crouton or Chrubuntu are exactly like using Ubuntu on a typical desktop of notebook, but I do consider both of them to be young projects which will only get better with time. My wife has been thinking about tablet for several months now. After seeing my chromebook, yesterday she asked for one for her birthday! Don On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-17 16:40 GMT+02:00 Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com: The other way is to use Crouton, where you are actually running Ubuntu through the Chrome OS Ah, thanks for that. The name slipped my mind, and I might need this soon too, for roughly the same reason :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc file size suddenly by 400x
(2014/04/17 22:36), Cley Faye wrote: 2014-04-17 15:26 GMT+02:00 Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp: I am afraid, I do not understand. Renaming the file to current name.zip does not change anything. Creating a Zip Folder/file generates only ONE folder, containing ONE file = the calc file. Size as stated. I cannot see any XML file anywhere You have to change the file extension from .ods to .zip. If you're under windows, the file explorer probably hide the file extension, so you have to unhide them (it's easy, the procedure is described here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/865219/en) Once you can change the file extension to zip, you should be able to open it and see how files are laid out. You'll have something that ressemble this structure: http://i.imgur.com/eAEuZZ5.png Thank you. I managed that. It shows a content.xml file of about 54 kb and a folder named Fonts, that contains 17 fonts with numbers (no names), worth about 25 MB. This seems to be the villain. I think, I found under properties an item embed fonts in document. Unchecking that reduced file size to about 100 kb. Hopefully that solved my problem und will prevent the file from crashing. Thank you, again. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any thoughts on Tutor.com's policy of MS Word only?
On 04/17/2014 11:14 AM, Jeffrey Deutsch wrote: Hello, I'm thinking of applying for an online tutoring position at Tutor.com. However, they require that tutors (and applicants, for the mock tutoring session) have Microsoft Word (2007 or later) itself -- they specifically say that OpenOffice is not acceptable. I'd rather not spend $110 just to get MS Word (or $140 for MS Office, or $10/month or $100/year to rent MS Office) for this specific job, when OpenOffice/LibreOffice has worked just fine for me for the past decade. Does anyone here have any relevant experience (eg, does Tutor.com in practice allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, is it absolutely necessary to get MS Word, do you know of similar online tutoring services that allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, etc)? Thank you in advance! Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Listen to the universe while it whispers before it has to shout. Marion Grobb Finkelstein, Communication Catalyst -- http://www.MarionSpeaks.com Jeff, Either they do not know a number of applications can handle the vast majority of MS Word documents, not just LO. I have at least four applications (all available at no cost some FOSS and some proprietary) on my Linux box that can read/write MS Word documents plus Google Docs. Or they use VBA macros which is a very, very, very, very serious security risk/stupidity. If they are requiring running VBA macros, I would seriously question their competence and/or ethics for risking anyone's computer. My experience is that many VBA macros can be replaced by a template with user entry fields. The normal security rule is never allow a foreign (one you have not reviewed/written) VBA macro to run on your computer because they have been a notorious attack vector in the past. The problem is there is often no indication in the file extension a macro is present that could run automatically when the file is opened. I would generalize this to never allow any foreign macro to run on your computer. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Character Styles
The problem with mixing direct formatting and styles is that you usually discover you should have used styles after the document is done and you need to make changes. Our ability to foresee the future is often very limited.I often get asked by someone how to fix something in a long (e.g. 600 page) document without having to crawl through the entire document page by page. My answer is that I can help you not have this problem in the future, but for now it is going to be tricky if not impossible. Regards, On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) I think it's great that LibreOffice allows both systems to be used within a single document. I rarely need to completely change the entire look of any documents so direct formatting works well for me. I think this is one of those things that you can make as simple or as complex as you like. Just because a choice exists doesn't mean you have to use it. So, my use of style is very minimal but is a HUGE help that saves me often hours hours of work every time i have to import anything from certain colleagues. The only time i collaborate with others is when they give me documents for a quarterly newsletter and once i've reformatted their work i tend to never need to reformat it or make any changes at all. So the only style that really matters to me is the body text one, or the default one. The various headings help a little bit. So although styles can be far more complicated and allow much flexibility all of that is beyond my requirements. Even if i did need the more advanced stuff the biggest saving in time was with the initial paste as unformatted text and finding the text already in the format i wanted. I am glad the more complicated stuff is there so that if i ever had more advanced requirements i could upscale quite easily. However i think scaring people off by pointing out how complicated it all could be might make them miss out on the huge benefits they could get from the very simple bits of it. Oooops! sorry for ranting! I know it's not the way you meant it! Happy Easter all! :))) Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2014 02:03, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: On 04/16/2014 04:08 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote: Interesting point, Virgil. I think we need to weak a fine line between providing a tool that we can use intelligently, and forcing people to do something they don't understand. Using styles the right way is something you have to be educated about. Like you, I started by getting the idea that I could change styles throughout the document if I used them consistently. But it took longer for me to really appreciate the need to do functional style definitions. Any character can be bold for a variety of reasons, and the key is to create and use styles based on the function of that element in a document. That way, you can change a subset of all of the bold characters without changing others. But that requires starting to really think about the architecture of your information. Regards, Good points, Kevin. I'm learning that using styles takes a lot of thought and planning. I like the way I can customize LO to make it do amazing things. But, it can't be done thoughtlessly, or you'll end up redoing stuff later on. It occurs to me that, when we create style definitions, what we're really doing is making LO work more like LyX. The difference is that, with LyX, somebody else has already created really good styles (called environments) thus shielding the user from the need to create them. Problem is, when the pre-created environments don't meet your needs, you have a steep learning curve to try to change them. With LO, you can much more easily create and modify styles, but, if you want really good output, you *have* to create and modify your styles, and that takes thoughtful planning. For a person just wanting to get his project done, the need to create and customize the styles seems to get in the way. It's as if each user is actually finishing LO by making it work the way s/he prefers. In creating my LO styles, I've tried to use LyX environments as a model, mimicking their output, and tweaking where I find it helpful. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any thoughts on Tutor.com's policy of MS Word only?
Hi :) They have probably had to deal with a lot of grumbles from people using LO or AOO who have trouble with documents created in MSO where MSO has used their newer formats (about 4 or more different versions of docX, xlsX, pptX etc). So, it's all back-fired a bit! The aim was to push the college to switch formats that everyone could use on any platform. Perhaps write to them to complain? Point out exactly what you just said, that you don't see why you should pay upwards of $110 to some 3rd party organisation! I'd be tempted to request they give a free copy of MSO! You already have software that does all the same things and don't see why you should spend more money just in order to keep doing the same things that you can already do for free. Maybe get really rude and ask if they get a commission on the number of students forced into buying something that they don't need. I don't know if i would point out the security risk of running such ancient software as MSO 2007 as that might backfire too. As might the recent problem with opening any Rtf file in MSO. Macros have repeatedly been such a huge problem over the years that it's resulted in MSO popping up a security warning when trying to run any macro. That might be worth pointing out. So, the college is putting students at risk and demanding they spend money to do so, when there are perfectly usable (and free) alternatives. Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2014 17:08, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/17/2014 11:14 AM, Jeffrey Deutsch wrote: Hello, I'm thinking of applying for an online tutoring position at Tutor.com. However, they require that tutors (and applicants, for the mock tutoring session) have Microsoft Word (2007 or later) itself -- they specifically say that OpenOffice is not acceptable. I'd rather not spend $110 just to get MS Word (or $140 for MS Office, or $10/month or $100/year to rent MS Office) for this specific job, when OpenOffice/LibreOffice has worked just fine for me for the past decade. Does anyone here have any relevant experience (eg, does Tutor.com in practice allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, is it absolutely necessary to get MS Word, do you know of similar online tutoring services that allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, etc)? Thank you in advance! Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Listen to the universe while it whispers before it has to shout. Marion Grobb Finkelstein, Communication Catalyst -- http://www.MarionSpeaks.com Jeff, Either they do not know a number of applications can handle the vast majority of MS Word documents, not just LO. I have at least four applications (all available at no cost some FOSS and some proprietary) on my Linux box that can read/write MS Word documents plus Google Docs. Or they use VBA macros which is a very, very, very, very serious security risk/stupidity. If they are requiring running VBA macros, I would seriously question their competence and/or ethics for risking anyone's computer. My experience is that many VBA macros can be replaced by a template with user entry fields. The normal security rule is never allow a foreign (one you have not reviewed/written) VBA macro to run on your computer because they have been a notorious attack vector in the past. The problem is there is often no indication in the file extension a macro is present that could run automatically when the file is opened. I would generalize this to never allow any foreign macro to run on your computer. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [MariaDB Announce] MariaDB 5.5.37 now available
Hi :) A new release of MariaDb is available, for those interested. I wish someone would let us know when Postgresql gets it's stable releases too. Both are good back-ends for Base so it'd be nice to stay informed. I get all the MariaDb notices for their alpha and beta-releases too but i try to avoid forwarding those to this mailing list. Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2014 15:45, MariaDB Announce List annou...@mariadb.org wrote: The MariaDB project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of MariaDB 5.5.37 This is a Stable (GA) release. See the Release Notes and Changelog for details. - - Links - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MariaDB 5.5.37 - Release Notes: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-5537-release-notes - Changelog: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-5537-changelog - Downloads: https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/5.5.37 About MariaDB 5.5: - https://mariadb.com/kb/en/what-is-mariadb-55/ APT and YUM Repository Configuration Generator: - https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/repositories/ - - MariaDB Webinars - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SkySQL has held several MariaDB-focused Webinars recently which are available on an on-demand basis at: - http://www.skysql.com/why-skysql/webinars/ They are also planning several more MariaDB-focused webinars that will be held over the comming months. Details available at the above link. - - MariaDB Books - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The newly published MariaDB Cookbook contains nearly 100 recipes covering a variety of features in MariaDB. - http://www.packtpub.com/exclusive-and-unique-features-of-mariadb/book Another book, Getting Started with MariaDB is a how-to guide for beginners to help them get up to speed quickly with MariaDB. No prior database experience required. - http://www.packtpub.com/getting-started-with-mariadb/book - - User Feedback plugin - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MariaDB includes a User Feedback plugin. This plugin is disabled by default. If enabled, it submits basic, completely anonymous MariaDB usage information. This information is used by the developers to track trends in MariaDB usage to better guide development efforts. If you would like to help make MariaDB better, please add feedback=ON to your my.cnf or my.ini file! See http://mariadb.com/kb/en/user-feedback-plugin for more information. - - Quality - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The project always strives for quality, but in reality, nothing is perfect. Please take time to report any issues you encounter at: - http://mariadb.org/jira - - Support MariaDB - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - If you would like to contribute to the MariaDB Foundation, please see the contributing and donations pages. We also have merchandise available in a cafepress store. All proceeds go to support the MariaDB Foundation. - https://mariadb.com/kb/en/contributing - https://mariadb.org/en/donate/ - http://www.cafepress.com/mariadb We hope you enjoy MariaDB! -- MariaDB: An Enhanced Drop-in Replacement for MySQL Website - http://mariadb.org Twitter - http://twitter.com/mariadb Google+ - http://google.com/+mariadb Facebook - http://fb.com/MariaDB.dbms Knowledge Base - http://mariadb.com/kb ___ announce mailing list annou...@mariadb.org https://lists.askmonty.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/announce To unsubscribe, send an email with unsubscribe as the Subject: to announce-requ...@mariadb.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc file size suddenly by 400x
Hi :) Brilliantly found! That is quite a new feature that some people have been keen to see for quite some time. I tend to use boring fonts that almost everyone ends up getting or already has even though they are MS ones. Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2014 17:00, Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp wrote: (2014/04/17 22:36), Cley Faye wrote: 2014-04-17 15:26 GMT+02:00 Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp: I am afraid, I do not understand. Renaming the file to current name.zip does not change anything. Creating a Zip Folder/file generates only ONE folder, containing ONE file = the calc file. Size as stated. I cannot see any XML file anywhere You have to change the file extension from .ods to .zip. If you're under windows, the file explorer probably hide the file extension, so you have to unhide them (it's easy, the procedure is described here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/865219/en) Once you can change the file extension to zip, you should be able to open it and see how files are laid out. You'll have something that ressemble this structure: http://i.imgur.com/eAEuZZ5.png Thank you. I managed that. It shows a content.xml file of about 54 kb and a folder named Fonts, that contains 17 fonts with numbers (no names), worth about 25 MB. This seems to be the villain. I think, I found under properties an item embed fonts in document. Unchecking that reduced file size to about 100 kb. Hopefully that solved my problem und will prevent the file from crashing. Thank you, again. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Character Styles
Hi :) +1 That is true. However i rarely need to do more than correct tpyos or sepling mistooks or maybe reword something. Luckily i don't have to collaborate with other people much either (apart from them sending me hideously malformed MS documents and me pasting their article into 'my' Odt newsletter). I suspect a lot of people are in a similar position to me but of course a lot are in a similar position to you and also a lot similar to Virgil too. Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2014 18:20, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with mixing direct formatting and styles is that you usually discover you should have used styles after the document is done and you need to make changes. Our ability to foresee the future is often very limited.I often get asked by someone how to fix something in a long (e.g. 600 page) document without having to crawl through the entire document page by page. My answer is that I can help you not have this problem in the future, but for now it is going to be tricky if not impossible. Regards, On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) I think it's great that LibreOffice allows both systems to be used within a single document. I rarely need to completely change the entire look of any documents so direct formatting works well for me. I think this is one of those things that you can make as simple or as complex as you like. Just because a choice exists doesn't mean you have to use it. So, my use of style is very minimal but is a HUGE help that saves me often hours hours of work every time i have to import anything from certain colleagues. The only time i collaborate with others is when they give me documents for a quarterly newsletter and once i've reformatted their work i tend to never need to reformat it or make any changes at all. So the only style that really matters to me is the body text one, or the default one. The various headings help a little bit. So although styles can be far more complicated and allow much flexibility all of that is beyond my requirements. Even if i did need the more advanced stuff the biggest saving in time was with the initial paste as unformatted text and finding the text already in the format i wanted. I am glad the more complicated stuff is there so that if i ever had more advanced requirements i could upscale quite easily. However i think scaring people off by pointing out how complicated it all could be might make them miss out on the huge benefits they could get from the very simple bits of it. Oooops! sorry for ranting! I know it's not the way you meant it! Happy Easter all! :))) Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2014 02:03, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: On 04/16/2014 04:08 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote: Interesting point, Virgil. I think we need to weak a fine line between providing a tool that we can use intelligently, and forcing people to do something they don't understand. Using styles the right way is something you have to be educated about. Like you, I started by getting the idea that I could change styles throughout the document if I used them consistently. But it took longer for me to really appreciate the need to do functional style definitions. Any character can be bold for a variety of reasons, and the key is to create and use styles based on the function of that element in a document. That way, you can change a subset of all of the bold characters without changing others. But that requires starting to really think about the architecture of your information. Regards, Good points, Kevin. I'm learning that using styles takes a lot of thought and planning. I like the way I can customize LO to make it do amazing things. But, it can't be done thoughtlessly, or you'll end up redoing stuff later on. It occurs to me that, when we create style definitions, what we're really doing is making LO work more like LyX. The difference is that, with LyX, somebody else has already created really good styles (called environments) thus shielding the user from the need to create them. Problem is, when the pre-created environments don't meet your needs, you have a steep learning curve to try to change them. With LO, you can much more easily create and modify styles, but, if you want really good output, you *have* to create and modify your styles, and that takes thoughtful planning. For a person just wanting to get his project done, the need to create and customize the styles seems to get in the way. It's as if each user is actually finishing LO by making it work the way s/he prefers. In creating my LO styles, I've tried to use LyX environments as a model, mimicking their output, and tweaking where I find it helpful. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
[libreoffice-users] Heartbleed
Any idea when the Heartbleed bug will be fixed in LibreOffice? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Heartbleed-tp4105573.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed
Hi, Le 17 avr. 2014 20:12, alnuwer alnu...@cox.net a écrit : Any idea when the Heartbleed bug will be fixed in LibreOffice? It's already done in 4.2.3.3 branch. The 4.1.x versions are not concerned. Kind regards Sophie -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any thoughts on Tutor.com's policy of MS Word only?
On 04/17/2014 12:47 PM, Tom Davies wrote: As might the recent problem with opening any Rtf file in MSO. What's the problem with opening RTF files in MSO? Just curious because I do it all the time. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed
On 4/17/2014 2:16 PM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Le 17 avr. 2014 20:12, alnuweralnu...@cox.net a écrit : Any idea when the Heartbleed bug will be fixed in LibreOffice? It's already done in 4.2.3.3 branch. The 4.1.x versions are not concerned. ??? This is an OpenSSL bug, what does this have to do with Libreoffice? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed
2014-04-17 21:52 GMT+02:00 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org: This is an OpenSSL bug, what does this have to do with Libreoffice? As far as I can tell, it's because LibreOffice was linked with a vulnerable version of openssl. It's never bad to be on the side of precautions by using the latest versions (especially if it provides bugfixes), but I'm not sure how an exploit on the server side of a TLS connection could cause issue in a client software. Better safe than sorry I suppose. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Retrofitting a template to a document
On 4/17/2014 12:20 AM, Cley Faye wrote: Can somebody point me to an easy way to add the source template data back to the file? Look for the Template Changer extension; it should do what you want. It looks like it did. Looks like, because I have to read the entire 1,500 pages as a PDF file, to know if everything changed correctly. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Retrofitting a template to a document
On 4/17/2014 12:46 AM, Tom Davies wrote: It's also a good idea to post a bug-report using that office suite's bug-reporting system. I'd rather deal with Microsoft's bug reporting system for non-paying customers. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Creating an Index
Could someone please point me to documentation that will explain how to create and maintain an index? Thanks. Dale Erwin -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating an Index
Original Message From: Dale Erwin dale.er...@casaerwin.org To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:14:37 -0500 Could someone please point me to documentation that will explain how to create and maintain an index? Thanks. Dale Erwin Hi Dale, Have you checked chapter 12 of the Writer Guide: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide The following are little dated, but... http://www.taming-openoffice-org.com/newsite/?page_id=69 http://voices.yahoo.com/creating-open-office-writer-index-7043324.html Search the internet for libreoffice document index (sans quotes) and you will get links to many similar documents and articles. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Intentionally crashing LibreOffice when frozen/LibreOffice will not start.
Thanks for the offer, Andrew! The original file is definitely bigger than the allowable limit. However, when I originally tried to import it, it opened up the first third of the file and allowed me to save it, and reopen it. However, when I tried to save it a second time, it crashed and the file was corrupted. I am pretty sure the problem is not that I am running out of memory. I have 24 gig on a 64-bit machine. I think the program is just buggy when you try to run it at its absolute outside capacity limit. So I have figured out how to open my file in R and save subsets small enough to open more reliably. I wish the program checked for file size and offered a sensible list of options when it is too big, like opening the first N rows, or opening n rows after skipping m rows, or opening a taking a p percent sample of rows. But perhaps that is too much to hope for in a spreadsheet. And thanks again for your thought and attention. Warmest regards, Andrew On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n410416...@n3.nabble.com wrote: On 04/04/2014 07:44 PM, andrewH wrote: I am working with a data set that keeps causing my LibreOffice to freeze. I am pretty sure that this is only because it is big. It is a pipe-separated text from the US Economic Census imported into Calc, about 30 columns and around a million rows. (The actual data set is bigger, but Calc quits at a million-odd. The complete file is about 0.8 gig.) I suspect but can not prove that this is related to file handling somehow, e.g. breaking down during auto-saving. The first time I saved the data as a Calc file it took nearly an hour with the soffice.bin *32 process running at 25 percent of CPU time and using about 825 meg of memory the entire time. (Not sure why this is showing up as a 32-bit version). And when Calc freezes, all the LibreOffice programs freeze. So I can't just switch to another file and noodle away while waiting. It looks to me as though Calc cannot handle more than 1048576 rows of data, Do you have more rows than that? If yes, then I think that you cannot open the file. If you have less than that, and, if you think that you are simply running out of memory if you can figure out how to get the data to me, I can run a test on a 64 bit version (running on Linux). My machine has 32 GB of RAM... -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden email]http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=4104166i=0 Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Intentionally-crashing-LibreOffice-when-frozen-LibreOffice-will-not-start-tp4104156p4104166.html To unsubscribe from Intentionally crashing LibreOffice when frozen/LibreOffice will not start., click herehttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=4104156code=YWhvZXJuZXJAcnByb2dyZXNzLm9yZ3w0MTA0MTU2fC0yMDQ3NjI1NDM5 . NAMLhttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewerid=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.namlbase=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespacebreadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml -- J. Andrew Hoerner Director, Sustainable Economics Program Redefining Progress (510) 507-4820 -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Intentionally-crashing-LibreOffice-when-frozen-LibreOffice-will-not-start-tp4104156p4105609.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Intentionally crashing LibreOffice when frozen/LibreOffice will not start.
Thanks Tom! Gnumeric is a great product and I have used it before. I was hoping to use Calc in this case because I am trying to learn to use the LO database, Base, as a stand-alone or a front end for PostgreSQL. But I find it very hard to define, use, and even just to import a file into a database if I can not first look at it and determine how missing variables are coded, which fields are character and which are numeric, etc. Some census products are really good at giving users this kind of metadata, others not so much. (The Economic Census metadata is hard enough to read and understand (would you put material intended to explain something to the public in pipe-delimited text?) that I have written to them asking for meta-meta data). So I wanted to use Calc for exploration and base to do the heavy lifting, in the hope that things might be easier if I stayed withing one document family. Now I am thinking that some other approach will be easier. Warmest regards, Andrew On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 2:09 AM, TomD [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4104190...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Hi :) Try Gnumeric; http://www.gnumeric.org/download.html It's a dedicated spreadsheet program with a tiny footprint that uses minimal resources, so it's faster, lighter and more robust than Excel or Calc. Many people find Gnumeric to be better than Calc or Excel for serious or hefty spreadsheets and/or for handling many more spreadsheets in a shorter time-frame. It can be installed alongside LibreOffice and/or MS Office. It uses the same format as LibreOffice natively so most spreadsheets can be bounced between the 2 programs quite happily. Part of the advantage of LibreOffice is that it fits well into a wider eco-system and co-operates well with a wider range of programs and suites allowing you to tailor individual machines to specific use-cases and yet still retain the ability to share files between different machines and different people using different OSes and programs. Regards from Tom ) On 5 April 2014 06:43, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [hidden email]http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=4104190i=0 wrote: On 04/04/2014 07:44 PM, andrewH wrote: I am working with a data set that keeps causing my LibreOffice to freeze. I am pretty sure that this is only because it is big. It is a pipe-separated text from the US Economic Census imported into Calc, about 30 columns and around a million rows. (The actual data set is bigger, but Calc quits at a million-odd. The complete file is about 0.8 gig.) I suspect but can not prove that this is related to file handling somehow, e.g. breaking down during auto-saving. The first time I saved the data as a Calc file it took nearly an hour with the soffice.bin *32 process running at 25 percent of CPU time and using about 825 meg of memory the entire time. (Not sure why this is showing up as a 32-bit version). And when Calc freezes, all the LibreOffice programs freeze. So I can't just switch to another file and noodle away while waiting. It looks to me as though Calc cannot handle more than 1048576 rows of data, Do you have more rows than that? If yes, then I think that you cannot open the file. If you have less than that, and, if you think that you are simply running out of memory if you can figure out how to get the data to me, I can run a test on a 64 bit version (running on Linux). My machine has 32 GB of RAM... -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden email]http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=4104190i=1 Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden email]http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=4104190i=2 Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Intentionally-crashing-LibreOffice-when-frozen-LibreOffice-will-not-start-tp4104156p4104190.html To unsubscribe from Intentionally crashing LibreOffice when frozen/LibreOffice will not start., click herehttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=4104156code=YWhvZXJuZXJAcnByb2dyZXNzLm9yZ3w0MTA0MTU2fC0yMDQ3NjI1NDM5 .
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book
On 04/17/2014 09:22 AM, Cley Faye wrote: 2014-04-17 14:43 GMT+02:00 Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com: So I ask if there is any movement towards making a Chrome OS port. Actually this Samsung Chrome uses a microSD card for some storage. I cannot tell much about it, since I do not have access to the manual. So the version of LO would need to fit on a microSD card storage, like a tablet, but it is not a tablet. This is really a really small net-book like device running Chrome OS. As far as I know, making an application for ChromeOS is roughly the same as making an application (note the quotes) for Chrome. This mean it's mostly html based and javascript driven. Porting LO to this kind of platform mean two things: - We get an awesome, cross-system, cross-platform office suite - We have a insane amount of work, need to rewrite *everything* from scratch, redo the UI, handle the strict restriction of browser-based applications... I'm sure you see what I mean :) It *might* be possible to run some binaries part, as it is possible with some restriction for Chrome app/extensions, but it remain a formidable task. Honestly, I wouldn't hold my breath for a port of this kind for three reasons: it's a huge task, there's little incentive to do it (way less than an android port for example), and there's a solid alternative. First alternative (easier): it is possible to install Ubuntu (or other linux OS) on a chromebook. I did that long ago, and there's a handful of tutorials on how to do so. If your chromebook is Intel based, it's even better, but as far as LO is concerned, it can be installed on ARM devices too. Sorry, she just bought the Chrome Book. Maybe she will decide that Chrome OS was a mistake that she was talked into buying and get a Windows based book. Be better for her if she did. She would not like Linux, no matter how easy its interface was. She actually thought the device ran on Windows. Second alternative (trickier): there's way less tutorials, but I vaguely remember the possibility of using real software in chromeos, mainly through command line. However I don't have any more info, and I'm not sure that it isn't restricted to command-line stuff (I'm not even sure that chromeos use an X server). Also, regarding storage space: for previous models, it was a really good idea to replace the (really) small hard drive with a better one. I don't know the specs of the newest chromebooks, but it's worth checking. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book
yes, but the lady I am dealing with is a person who did not know the difference between ChromeOS and Windows, let alone would want to try to run Ubuntu off of her Chrome Book. She does not understand even how to set up a wifi connection properly on a Windows laptop, or install and keep up security software properly. Yes a Chrome Book might be a nice idea for some but without printer support and software support I need, and she needs, it is not the best deal. I have not told her that this device will not work with her Canon Printer. On 04/17/2014 11:47 AM, Don Myers wrote: I'm quite pleased with Crouton. It has some quirks here and there, but once you understand them, it really works well. Neither Crouton or Chrubuntu are exactly like using Ubuntu on a typical desktop of notebook, but I do consider both of them to be young projects which will only get better with time. My wife has been thinking about tablet for several months now. After seeing my chromebook, yesterday she asked for one for her birthday! Don On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-17 16:40 GMT+02:00 Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com: The other way is to use Crouton, where you are actually running Ubuntu through the Chrome OS Ah, thanks for that. The name slipped my mind, and I might need this soon too, for roughly the same reason :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed
On 04/17/2014 04:13 PM, Cley Faye wrote: 2014-04-17 21:52 GMT+02:00 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org: This is an OpenSSL bug, what does this have to do with Libreoffice? As far as I can tell, it's because LibreOffice was linked with a vulnerable version of openssl. It's never bad to be on the side of precautions by using the latest versions (especially if it provides bugfixes), but I'm not sure how an exploit on the server side of a TLS connection could cause issue in a client software. Better safe than sorry I suppose. Even some of MS's web based look-up for running some of their packages were affected by this bug and the certificate changes associated with the fix. At least IE is giving me those types of errors with a few support phone calls I have had in the last week or so. Any package that need to access anything that used the older version of OpenSSL for any part of its inner workings can be at issue and vulnerable. How much it is is a guessing game, according to everything I have read, since each tell me a wide range of answers. So, fixing the web sites is just the start. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
Hi Tom I've been on to bugzilla and logged this as an enhancement. TomD wrote David, are you up for it? Makes the process sound like the start of Bilbo Baggins' epic adventure. I'm big enough and old enough to take a bucket of from a haughty expert if that's what you mean! Regards David -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Getting-back-to-the-Start-screen-tp4104830p4105585.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any thoughts on Tutor.com's policy of MS Word only?
Hi :) Ouch! A bit of a knee-jerk reaction again! I'm obviously quite tense today! Maybe take advantage of the fact they specified OpenOffice and didn't mention LibreOffice at all. Keep using LibreOffice? That way you are not exactly breaking their ruling just bending it a bit. If you get a file that is clearly a bit messed up, from a tutor, ask them which version of MSO they are using because your version doesn't seem to read it properly (omitting to say your version is not actually MSO). Ask them to File - Save As ... to send in the older format that everyone CAN read. If they press you on which version you are using obfuscate and say that you've heard all the different versions have problems with that particular file. Chances are that they do anyway but it'd be nice to check in the library or somewhere if possible just to be certain. If the file was from a student then do about the same but maybe consider telling them to use LibreOffice or anything else so that their files can be used by anyone. But students can be annoyingly naive so take care with such suggestions in case that back-fires too. Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2014 17:47, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) They have probably had to deal with a lot of grumbles from people using LO or AOO who have trouble with documents created in MSO where MSO has used their newer formats (about 4 or more different versions of docX, xlsX, pptX etc). So, it's all back-fired a bit! The aim was to push the college to switch formats that everyone could use on any platform. Perhaps write to them to complain? Point out exactly what you just said, that you don't see why you should pay upwards of $110 to some 3rd party organisation! I'd be tempted to request they give a free copy of MSO! You already have software that does all the same things and don't see why you should spend more money just in order to keep doing the same things that you can already do for free. Maybe get really rude and ask if they get a commission on the number of students forced into buying something that they don't need. I don't know if i would point out the security risk of running such ancient software as MSO 2007 as that might backfire too. As might the recent problem with opening any Rtf file in MSO. Macros have repeatedly been such a huge problem over the years that it's resulted in MSO popping up a security warning when trying to run any macro. That might be worth pointing out. So, the college is putting students at risk and demanding they spend money to do so, when there are perfectly usable (and free) alternatives. Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2014 17:08, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/17/2014 11:14 AM, Jeffrey Deutsch wrote: Hello, I'm thinking of applying for an online tutoring position at Tutor.com. However, they require that tutors (and applicants, for the mock tutoring session) have Microsoft Word (2007 or later) itself -- they specifically say that OpenOffice is not acceptable. I'd rather not spend $110 just to get MS Word (or $140 for MS Office, or $10/month or $100/year to rent MS Office) for this specific job, when OpenOffice/LibreOffice has worked just fine for me for the past decade. Does anyone here have any relevant experience (eg, does Tutor.com in practice allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, is it absolutely necessary to get MS Word, do you know of similar online tutoring services that allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, etc)? Thank you in advance! Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Listen to the universe while it whispers before it has to shout. Marion Grobb Finkelstein, Communication Catalyst -- http://www.MarionSpeaks.com Jeff, Either they do not know a number of applications can handle the vast majority of MS Word documents, not just LO. I have at least four applications (all available at no cost some FOSS and some proprietary) on my Linux box that can read/write MS Word documents plus Google Docs. Or they use VBA macros which is a very, very, very, very serious security risk/stupidity. If they are requiring running VBA macros, I would seriously question their competence and/or ethics for risking anyone's computer. My experience is that many VBA macros can be replaced by a template with user entry fields. The normal security rule is never allow a foreign (one you have not reviewed/written) VBA macro to run on your computer because they have been a notorious attack vector in the past. The problem is there is often no indication in the file extension a macro is present that could run automatically when the file is opened. I would generalize this to never allow any foreign macro to run on your computer. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any thoughts on Tutor.com's policy of MS Word only?
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 04:43:09 AM +0200, Marco Fioretti wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 18:00:31 PM +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Keep using LibreOffice? That way you are not exactly breaking their ruling just bending it a bit. If you get a file that is clearly a bit messed up, from a tutor, ask them which version of MSO they are using because your version doesn't seem to read it properly (omitting to say your version is not actually MSO). Ask them to File - Save As ... ... If the file was from a student then do about the same... nothing personal, of course, but this whole line of thought and suggestions seems more and more pointless as the thread continues. My apologies for this sentence. For some unknown reason, I received from the list manager the message above from Tom only 10 minutes ago, so I thought it had been written after my first email in this thread. Now I have looked at the whole thread again, and realized he had sent both messages almost back to back, both before my first reply. Marco -- M. Fioretti http://mfioretti.com http://stop.zona-m.net Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how software is used *around* you -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any thoughts on Tutor.com's policy of MS Word only?
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 18:00:31 PM +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Keep using LibreOffice? That way you are not exactly breaking their ruling just bending it a bit. If you get a file that is clearly a bit messed up, from a tutor, ask them which version of MSO they are using because your version doesn't seem to read it properly (omitting to say your version is not actually MSO). Ask them to File - Save As ... ... If the file was from a student then do about the same... nothing personal, of course, but this whole line of thought and suggestions seems more and more pointless as the thread continues. This would be evident to anybody who had taken the time to check the tutoring FAQ as I did yesterday and/or to search online for tutor.com classroom software as I did now, thus finding, among others, this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1485597 and this technical description http://www.russellgreenspan.com/software/The_Tutor.com_Classroom.pdf which both confirm my initial hypothesis, that there must be little or nothing Save as in independent office suites in that scenario, because a tutor.com classroom is something that totally happens inside THEIR software, which relies on 30 pages of Microsoft-specific technologies to integrate everything tightly. My own feeling (since yesterday, and the other links I found today confirm it) is that the support for this or that file format, or macros, in and by itself counts almost nothing, as in you may very well do or create homework in OpenOffice, as long as you eventually copy and paste everything in MS Office, because that is the ONLY way to pass it back and forth student and tutor that can be handled (=monitored for quality control and billing) by the Tutor.com classroom software. Marco -- M. Fioretti http://mfioretti.com http://stop.zona-m.net Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how software is used *around* you -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Version 10.6.8
Im still using Snow Leopard as my favourite program wasn't updated for the Mac. I've read the requirements for LibreOfice and it states that it is for Snow Leopard and up. But I've downloaded it and when I try to open the app I get the message that it is for 10.7 and up. I downloaded it again with the same results. What to do? Thanks, Vivian Lynes -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any thoughts on Tutor.com's policy of MS Word only?
First, if you opt to go this route, be prepared to spend the money to buy the software. On 04/17/2014 11:14 AM, Jeffrey Deutsch wrote: Hello, I'm thinking of applying for an online tutoring position at Tutor.com. However, they require that tutors (and applicants, for the mock tutoring session) have Microsoft Word (2007 or later) itself -- they specifically say that OpenOffice is not acceptable. I'd rather not spend $110 just to get MS Word (or $140 for MS Office, or $10/month or $100/year to rent MS Office) for this specific job, when OpenOffice/LibreOffice has worked just fine for me for the past decade. Does anyone here have any relevant experience (eg, does Tutor.com in practice allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, is it absolutely necessary to get MS Word, do you know of similar online tutoring services that allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, etc)? So you are wondering if anyone knows why they request this? Likely not here, but, I can say that even between different versions of MSO you may have different behavior and rendering of documents. If they provide macros, they will not likely work in AOO or LO correctly. If they have complicated documents, that could be a problem in slight things. I notice, for example, slight differences in rendering between LO/AOO and MSO with respect to tables and their exact size on the page. You can always take the position, and, when you have a problematic document, drop the money. Thank you in advance! Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Listen to the universe while it whispers before it has to shout. Marion Grobb Finkelstein, Communication Catalyst -- http://www.MarionSpeaks.com -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
