Re: [libreoffice-users] failed update attempts

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 25/02/2024 15:17, Graeme Eldridge wrote:

Hello,

I am running your version 7.6.0.3 quite successfully but thinking I 
really should update to 7.6.4 or better just as a matter of best 
practice.  That fails because the installer cannot remove version 
7.4.7!  This is logical only in the sense that version 7.4.7 isn't there 
and has never been there.  Trying to simply uninstall 7.6.03 fails 
exactly the same way as does hiding the Libre Office folder and 
attempting a "clean" install.


How do I fix this without buying a new machine (64 bit Windows 10)?

Thank you,

Graeme

PS.  Trying to install version 26.2 fails similarly

Why don't you do the obvious and remove all previous versions prior to 
installing the required update?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Recognition

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 20/02/2024 17:43, aguador wrote:



El lun, 19-02-2024 a las 19:34 -0800, Tom escribió:

On 2/19/24 6:54 PM, Joe Conner wrote:

I use Ubuntu 22.04lts and the latest Ubuntu depository Libreoffice.

LibreOffice does not recognize my installed printers.  How do I
force
availability of Libreoffice to use my printer? When I try to print
only "generic printer" is available. I have a Canon laser
MFP743Cdw,
an HP laserjet M402dw, and an HP officejet pro 8025.

Each can be used when printing a .pdf using the Document Viewer
software so I export my word document to .pdf and print using the
Document Viewer. This kludge work-around works, but i think the
best
scenario is for LibreOffice to recognize my printers as it formerly
used to do.

I appreciate any suggestions.


I recommend that you re-install LibreOffice from the source 
 rather than the Ubuntu repositories. In 
earlier days, when I thought Ubuntu was a good idea for me, I had 
similar problems with printing from their variant of LibreOffice. They 
all went away after installing the original product.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Address Book Conundrum

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 11/09/2023 21:08, Steve Edmonds wrote:
Did you install 7.6.0.3 from the LO website DL page. Base is a separate 
component in the openSuse repositories with an optional install.


Since an experience with a Debian derivative some years ago I *always* 
install the original product from the LibreOffice web site. Much as I 
respect and admire Debian I'm not happy with re-packaged LibreOffice 
products.


Moving on, it is beginning to look as if my problem lies with Bookworm, 
or KDE: my other computers do provide the Address Book features with 
which I'm accustomed so further investigation is warranted.


Sorry for the noise.

Peter HB


On 12/09/2023 06:57, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
I confirm that Base was _always_ installed with the rest of the suite 
for me.


Do you have LibreOffice Start Center with your installation?

On 9/11/23 13:45, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Peter,

Am 10.09.23 um 13:07 schrieb Peter Hillier-Brook:
For donkey's years I've been using an address book created from a 
calc spreadsheet, assigned via the Address Data Source Wizard. In a 
freshly installed version of LibreOffice (7.6.0.3) it's no longer 
available as it requires the "base" component that is not present.


It has required Base also in the past, but many people didn't 
recognize this. You connect from Writer thruogh Base to Calc.


Why isn't Base available for your installation. I never git an 
installation without Base component (OpenSUSE 64bit rpm Linux here).


Regards

Robert






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Address Book Conundrum

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 11/09/2023 15:33, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:

Not a 100% sure, but try this.

Open a Writer document

Left click on 

Check "Available Databases" column on right.

If not there, try  button below to reconnect to Calc 
spreadsheet.


Hope this helps.


Thanks for the tip, but no joy.It seems that the absence of the 'Base' 
component in the last few releases is at the root of my problem.


Peter HB



On 9/10/23 07:07, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
For donkey's years I've been using an address book created from a calc 
spreadsheet, assigned via the Address Data Source Wizard. In a freshly 
installed version of LibreOffice (7.6.0.3) it's no longer available as 
it requires the "base" component that is not present.


Have I missed something in a Release Note, or is there a functional 
alternative?


Peter HB




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[libreoffice-users] Address Book Conundrum

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

For donkey's years I've been using an address book created from a calc 
spreadsheet, assigned via the Address Data Source Wizard. In a freshly 
installed version of LibreOffice (7.6.0.3) it's no longer available as 
it requires the "base" component that is not present.


Have I missed something in a Release Note, or is there a functional 
alternative?


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] weirdness in save dialogue box

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

sudo dpkg -iR /Downloads/

I don't see that as any harder than using the system package manager and 
repositories.


Peter HB

On 31/07/2023 20:26, Steve Edmonds wrote:
I was thinking also to try direct from the LO site, it is just so much 
easier to install/remove upgrade/downgrade using the system package 
manager and repositories.


On 31/07/2023 22:56, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

Mike,

It seems that you have not yet installed directly from the LibreOffice 
download site. Many years ago, when I still thought Ubuntu was a 
viable option for me, I had problems with their variant of 
LibreOffice. Installing the real thing eliminated the problems.


Best wishes.

Peter HB

On 31/07/2023 09:14, Mike Scott wrote:

On 30/07/2023 21:17, Steve Edmonds wrote:
.


I just switched from the KDE file manager (Dolphin) to the LO file 
load/save dialogues, there is definitely an issue with LO when using 
Dolphin that is not evident with other apps using Dolphin.

Philip, are you using LO from their site or an Ubuntu packaged version.


Mike, you say both machines are Mint, MATE or Xfce? Did you install 
from a PPA or the LO website.


Mint Mate; versions 21 and (iirc) 20.2 on the lappy.

LO is installed from the relevant ubuntu PPA. This machine (mint 21) 
says (synaptic) 1:7.3.7-0ubuntu0.22.0.4.3, but I think the other 
machine is on LO 6.something (IMBW) from the ub PPA. They have the 
same issue.


I do find the unpredictability rather concerning. I've just had to 
hunt for a "failing" file, but did find one. 'Save As' consistently 
(well, for the moment anyway!) adds the file extension in the 
dialogue. I switched to LO style dialogue boxes, and they behave as 
expected (file name given, no extension) - switching back to system 
style dialogues restores the wrong behaviour.


BTW, of two files -- an original plus a copy made with Caja (^C and 
^V) -- they consistently (for now) behave in the two different ways.


Thanks all for more comments. I hesitate to raise a bug report over 
this; for one thing the LO web bug page I found last time pretty 
incomprehensible, but for another it's really not repeatable enough. 
I'm not really sure where to go from here.












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Re: [libreoffice-users] weirdness in save dialogue box

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

Mike,

It seems that you have not yet installed directly from the LibreOffice 
download site. Many years ago, when I still thought Ubuntu was a viable 
option for me, I had problems with their variant of LibreOffice. 
Installing the real thing eliminated the problems.


Best wishes.

Peter HB

On 31/07/2023 09:14, Mike Scott wrote:

On 30/07/2023 21:17, Steve Edmonds wrote:
.


I just switched from the KDE file manager (Dolphin) to the LO file 
load/save dialogues, there is definitely an issue with LO when using 
Dolphin that is not evident with other apps using Dolphin.

Philip, are you using LO from their site or an Ubuntu packaged version.


Mike, you say both machines are Mint, MATE or Xfce? Did you install 
from a PPA or the LO website.


Mint Mate; versions 21 and (iirc) 20.2 on the lappy.

LO is installed from the relevant ubuntu PPA. This machine (mint 21) 
says (synaptic) 1:7.3.7-0ubuntu0.22.0.4.3, but I think the other machine 
is on LO 6.something (IMBW) from the ub PPA. They have the same issue.


I do find the unpredictability rather concerning. I've just had to hunt 
for a "failing" file, but did find one. 'Save As' consistently (well, 
for the moment anyway!) adds the file extension in the dialogue. I 
switched to LO style dialogue boxes, and they behave as expected (file 
name given, no extension) - switching back to system style dialogues 
restores the wrong behaviour.


BTW, of two files -- an original plus a copy made with Caja (^C and ^V) 
-- they consistently (for now) behave in the two different ways.


Thanks all for more comments. I hesitate to raise a bug report over 
this; for one thing the LO web bug page I found last time pretty 
incomprehensible, but for another it's really not repeatable enough. I'm 
not really sure where to go from here.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Draw guide

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 29/05/2023 11:13, Eustace wrote:
A long-long time ago I created some diagrams using WordPerfect. Now I 
need to update them and create some new ones with LibreOffice Draw. I 
looked at Amazon, and found that there is a book from 2015 — that's new 
enough for me, however because of eyesight problems I'd prefer a digital 
guide. Is there anything available to get me started?



...or you could use 'Inkscape'

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recovered File Issues - Blank Document

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 03/05/2023 09:29, Katinka Van Dijk wrote:

Hello,

Libre Office crashed and when restarted it asked if I wanted to recover the 
file I was working on and as this has worked in the past I agreed. When the 
document was recovered it was blank.

Looking through your forum to possibly find an older version a few say to go 
Tools: Options etc.. my tools tab does not have an Options, the kast thing is 
Customize. Should it?


Yes it should, immediately below 'Customise' (Using version 7.5.3.2, 
freshly installed). Perhaps you need to scroll your screen? I'm not sure 
that this will help you with your current problem though.


Please don't take this the wrong way but, many years ago - about 35 if 
memory serves - I learned the hard way to save important documents every 
10 minutes to minimise potential losses. This started, of course, before 
I discovered a more reliable operating system that didn't crash every so 
often:-)


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] For the attention of mediators

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 27/07/2022 14:10, Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote:

I didn't see any 'propaganda'.



I saw expression of a political opinion . . .


I’m afraid that’s semantic trickery for renaming political propaganda
that you agree with.


if it bothered me I'd ignore it.


It bothers me, and it contravenes the norm of email discussion, and I
can’t ignore it.

Hello, moderators!


+1

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Off Line Help Installation

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 21/03/2022 18:42, Joe Conner wrote:


On 3/20/22 07:41, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Paolo,

Hi.   Yes, I can confirm.

I have LO  7.3.0.3  on ubuntu 20.04.   When I press  F1,  it opens a 
browser  with address:

file:///tmp/lu18302293odos5.tmp/NewHelp0.html
and says  'file not found'.


This is a totally wron path. Have a look for your LibreOffice program 
installation.

here is a part of the link, which has been shown in my browser
file:///…opt/libreoffice7.3/help/de/text/shared/guide/startcenter.html?

The help for Germany ("de") is installed.

This is an installation with original packages from LO on a 
rpm-Linux-System (OpenSUSE). So it might be different to your 
Ubuntu-installation.


Regards

Robert


My offline help path is file:///tmp/lu28183k53.tmp/NewHelp3.html and the 
file is not found.


As Robert has said, this is completely wrong. Under Debian 11 the file 
is accessed via:


file:///opt/libreoffice7.3/help/en-GB/text/shared/05/new_help.html?System=UNIX=WRITER=.uno:HelpIndex#bm_id3806162

My guess is that you installed LibreOffice from an Ubuntu repository, 
rather than the original libreoffice download site. /tmp is a 
particularly stupid location - the clue is in the name. It's temporary.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] printing pages in reverse order not possible in LO 7.2.5.2.0+

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 13/02/2022 11:09, Ken Heard wrote:
In order to print documents on both sides of the paper using a printer 
without collating ability, I always printed first in reverse order the 
even pages.  I then  print in numerical order the odd pages on the back 
side of the paper on which the even pages are printed.  In this way the 
pages do not need to be collated manually.


While this version of LO still allows printing separately the odd and 
even pages, I discovered to my horror that it no longer allows printing 
of pages in reverse order.


The help page however still says that all one has to do to print in 
reverse order is to


1.    Choose File - Print.
2.    Click the General tab.
3.    Choose Print in reverse page order.
4.    Click Print.

In view of the foregoing it would appear that disappearance of the 
reverse print option was unintended.  In that case when can we helpless 
users expect this error to be corrected?


Ken Heard


It's available in 7.3.0.3, therefore probably also in the earlier 
version. Using your numbering you need to add <2a.  Select 'More'>


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Understanding Character styles "Default Style" and relative font sizes

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 09/07/2020 09:47, Robert Großkopf wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
>>   All
>> percentages seem to be based on a 12pt font, regardless of the font size
>> specified in the Paragraph style.
> 
> 12pt is the defined font size of the paragraph "Default Style". You have
> to look in the style dialog in tab "Organizer" → "Inherit from". You
> could change "Default Style" of the paragraph for changing the size for
> all depending font sizes.
> 
> "Addressee" depends directly to the font size of "Default Style". So the
> font size will be changed if the font size of "Default Style" has been
> changed.
> 
> "Heading", for example, sets the inherits from Default Style. It is
> overwritten there by font size 14pt. "Heading 1" is inherit from
> "Heading". It takes this 14pt and will set it to 130%.
> 
> All is based on the default styles: Paragraphs for the whole paragraph
> styles, fonts to the whole character styles.
> 
> Default character style only deletes all the changes of the character
> styles you made in a special tab. For example the character style
> "Emphasis": There is only set Font > Italic. You could only set it back
> to "change nothing" by choosing in tab "Font" → "Standard".
> 
> Hope it helps. My English is a littel bit confusing for other people.

Nonsense! Your English is clear and concise and it's a pity that some of
the so-called native English speakers on this list don't emulate it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re-flow text in Writer

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 17/04/2020 00:00, Jason wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there a way to force text to reflow in Writer?

Yes.

> Say I have a file with hard wraps at the end of each line and I want to 
> reflow all the paragraphs. Or alternately is there a way to find and 
> replace line breaks (searching for '\n' does not seem to work)?

A simple search "replace line breaks Libre Office" should help. It
produced a multitude of useful answers via duckduckgo.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Error invoking Help in Linux

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 02/04/2020 20:54, Valter Mura wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I get an error when invoking the help through the Help menu or F1, in Linux.
> 
> This is the error:
> "Object not accessible.
> The object cannot be accessed
> due to insufficient user rights."
> 
> The program is installed correctly, and also the help package(s).
> 
> Another user told me that when he installed the "snap" package, the issue 
> disappeared.
> 
> Has anyone else experimented the same problem in a Linux environment?



Works for me with Debian Buster and LibreOffice Version: 6.4.2.2

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Re: [libreoffice-users] offline help

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 21/05/2019 01:31, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> On 2019/05/17 19:40, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
>> On 17/05/2019 11:09, Philip Jackson wrote:
>> Are you sure it's going on-line and not just displaying in a browser.
> You are right: in 6.1.5 the offline help opens using a browser and in
> the URL field it starts with "file ..."
> 
> In an 6.0.7 installation on Linux Mint 19, where the offline help works,
> the file opens other than with a browser.
> 
> And in the 6.0.7 installation on a Windows 7 Workstation the computer
> tells me
> "offline help is not installed"
> HOWEVER, I installed both Japanese and English versions, each one alone
> and together,
> tried to fiddle with the language setting (currently: interface =
> English, locale = Japanese), but that did not change anything.
> 
> This "offline help is not installed" is what I would like to change.
> Have not yet had the time to upgrade to 6.1.5, but should it not be
> possible to install the offline help also for 6.0.7?

If you are trying to install the HTML Help from the current version on
to 6.0.7 it cannot work as the older help system cannot recognise the
file type. Any help file you're installing must be from the same release
version. It's worth checking. :-)

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] offline help

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 17/05/2019 11:09, Philip Jackson wrote:
> Hi :
> 
> I've had similar problems with LO Help in the past. Sadly I can't
> remember the detail of getting it to work but roughly it was linked with
> getting a correct alignment between the computer's 'system language' and
> the language settings in LO Options > Language settings
> 
> Perhaps you could start with that idea ?
> Philip
> 
> On 17/05/2019 09:58, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
>> Good afternoon
>> A few days I upgrade my (Windows 10) installation to LibreOffice 6.1.5.2
>> I also installed the offline help package.
>>
>> However, when I click on Help, it ALWAYS goes online.
>>
>> Is there a trick to make the offline help package work?

Are you sure it's going on-line and not just displaying in a browser.
The clue is in the address, where the URL begins with "file".

I don't recall when the change occurred, but it's been around for quite
a while.

Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] I have been using open office, libre office and open everything since 1985

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 11/01/2019 10:58, fudmier wrote:
> 
> 
> but I can tell you what has happened to libre office over the past two
> years has turned me off..
> nothing about it is stable.. it stinks.
> 
Everyone apart from you is out of step??

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 17/02/18 09:17, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I'm not sure how to open as read-only myself but i'd guess a right-click
> either per file or on a group of selected files prolly has something.

Select "Open File" within Libre Office: in the dialogue box, in the
lower left hand corner is a clue and yes, it does function with multiple
selected files.

> I think chmod might help change which user "owns" the files - or put them
> on a volume/drive/folder that is mounted read-only - but that all seems a
> bit extreme.

It's more than a bit extreme, but changing the permissions on the
reference files would work, with possible side-effects. i.e. Libre
Office would probably try to auto-save and might regularly bleat about
its inability to do so.

> You could change the time-delay or completely eliminate the auto-save
> feature.  Such options used to be in;
> Tools - Options - ...
> or something like that and prolly still are.

Not a good idea if one wanted to auto-save the "live" document, however
depress F1 and search for "auto" in Help.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save auto recovery information

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 14/02/18 20:42, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> Is it possible to make this setting on a per-document basis.
> It is a real interruption editing one document with 8-10 others open for
> reference only, that all auto-save and stop you editing the working
> document.
> 
> It would also be useful then to turn auto-save off for reference
> documents so they are not accidentally altered.
> 
> If not, possible enhancement. An auto-save on/off toggle in a top or
> bottom bar for easy reference and switching.

Just a guess, but why not open the "reference only" documents as read
only? I imagine that LibreOffice will not auto save such documents, but
if it does I would suggest that that's a bug.

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installation of LO 6.0.0.3 (x64) on Win10Pro

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 02/02/18 17:27, Philip Jackson wrote:
> On 02/02/18 14:22, DaveB wrote:
>> The problem does not appear when the en_US Help Pack is installed.
> 
> Thanks for that idea, Dave. I just downloaded and installed the en_US
> pack and it all works as expected [at least at first glance. time will
> tell].  I wondered about removing the en_GB help pack first but I didn't
> - thought I'd just try the en_US.
> 
> So both are now installed and LO just recogniz(s)es the en_US version.
> 
> Maybe the LO help devs are based in the EU and they don't approve of
> Brexit ?

It works for me on up to date Windows 10. You haven't specified your
environment: that might be a good place to start in isolating your problem.

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Having issues with FontWorks?

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 20/04/17 15:09, anne-ology wrote:
[cut]

 From: "Michael D. Setzer II"  To:
> users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:25:30
> +1000 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Having issues with FontWorks?
> 
> Have a Harley Owners Group Image, and I'm trying to insert a curved 
> chapter name in the image. Found a nice tutorial on doing it, but it
> is for version 3.2. I have the latest version, and it isn't the
> same.

Just a suggestion: Import the Harley image into inkscape, create a new
layer and create your desired text there. Why use a word processor to
manipulate graphics?

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

Charles, one can only admire your patience, but isn't it time to put a
stop to this nonsense with anne-ology (who I'm sure is not the
delightful Maureen, despite her use of the "-ology" suffix).

Who has the authority to remove her from the moderator role, for which
she seems singularly un-qualified?

On 02/02/17 13:51, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Anne-ology,
> 
> You are right, that is the general meaning of moderation. However, when
> we talk about moderation here, we talk about mailing list moderation.
> When we talk about moderator, we refer to a mailing list moderator, not
> to concepts such as panel moderators. A mailing list moderator has a
> specific role, which somewhat relates to the one of a moderator but is
> much more strict: it has been described a bit earlier but let me restate
> it: A mailing list moderator is in charge of the management of the
> mailing list. This role mostly includes moderating emails, which means:
> - finding legitimate emails of posters who are not subscribed to the
> mailing list and moderating them as in publishing them to the list (NOT
> REPLYING TO THEM FIRST)
> - rejecting incoming illegitimate emails, such as spam.
> 
> Another role of the list moderator usually (but not always) involves:
> - adding or unsubscribing email addresses per request of their owner
> - helping mailing list subscribers with similar tasks or technical
> issues directly related to their mailing list subscription
> - reminding everyone to be courteous
> - following the netiquette (http://www.netiquette.org) and reminding
> mailing list subscribers to comply with it.
> 
> Among all these points only the last two may relate somewhat more the
> broader meaning of "moderation".
> 
> In short your daily task is not one moderation but rather one of
> technical management. It also implies that you know how to post properly
> and understand the concept of mailing list discussion threads. From my
> perspective it seems you are not familiar with the concept,or that you
> perhaps have no desire to become acquainted with these notions which
> would be problematic for a mailing list moderator. Hence, there is no
> need to "clean" any "cruft from an email. Signs, mentions of date, time,
> etc. in an email are part of its information and may form a part of the
> thread. We need that. I notice you have managed to start a new thread
> "Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ..." that is not integrated with
> the original thread. This is not correct and you seem to do this for
> each one of your reply.
> 
> Below is one page belonging to another community that may be helpful to
> you:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Charles
> (who, by top-posting, does not comply to the netiquette).
> 
> 
> 
> Le 02.02.2017 01:56, anne-ology a écrit :
>> Do you know what moderation means?
>>
>>
>>moderation := "the avoidance of excess or extremes, especially in
>> one's behavior or political opinions"
>>
>>
>>
>> From: toki 
>> Date: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...
>> To:
>> Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
>>
>>
>> On 01/31/2017 01:54 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>
>>> It is not always possible to "do the right thing" so it is good that
>>
>> The correct thing is to _approve_ the message, not _respond_ within the
>> message. As such, it is _always_ possible to do the right thing.
>>
>> That is basic moderation 101
>>
>> jonathon
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] background images in business cards

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 21/12/16 22:56, Gary Dale wrote:
> This is ridiculous. I've just been reading a question from a 2008 (3.2)
> version of OpenOffice.org that is the same as my current problem. Namely
> that you can't place images in the background on a business card.
> 
> I'm using LibreOffice 5.2 (Debian) and when I insert an image, it
> refuses to go behind the text whether I select Arrange | Send to back or
> Wrap | wrap through. It will go behind the text if I select Wrap | in
> background but then it disappears. And no, before you ask, the paragraph
> fill is set to none.
> 
> I finally found a setting in Format | Page | Transparency where setting
> the transparency to 100% worked. Strangely the original setting was 50%
> which resulted in the background image being hidden completely. A quick
> experiment revealed that ANY setting other than 100% hid the background
> image.
> 
> I have no idea what this "feature" is for but it seems completely
> unintuitive and in conflict with the paragraph background setting, not
> to mention the wrap in background feature.
> 
> So my beef is:
> 1) Arrange doesn't appear to work on labels,
> 2) wrap through doesn't appear to work on labels,
> 3) there seems to be a page background that is in front of any
> background image,
> 4) the transparency setting for that page background only has two values
> - 100% or opaque, and
> 5) this situation has been around for at least 8 years without being fixed.
> 
> Why can't the developers address these basic problems?

If you use a table for your layout then placing an image in the
background behaves as you would wish. Sadly LibreOffice uses a
frame-based layout for labels and that might be where your problem lies.

I do not experience problems with my Avery business card stock using the
table based approach.

Peter HB



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with Document- Bad Behavior

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 05/02/16 14:19, rgarcia7 wrote:
> Greetings.
> 
> https://cloud.openmailbox.org/index.php/s/4ulZUqq3zP3Ewye
> 
> This document gets a blinking white box on pages 60-63,
> but i don't know if this a bug or a error in the file structure.
> 
> Document exported from Google Drive (It was uploaded as PDF) as .docx .
> 
> Tested on:
> - LibreOffice 5.0.3.2 (Fresh) on Linux Ubuntu
> - LibreOffice 4.4.7.2 (Still) on Windows 7 64-bit
> 
> Thanks for your Help.

confirmed with LibreOffice 5.0.4.2 under Debian 8.3

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Images not printing

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 22/10/15 22:57, Aureli wrote:
> Yes, this is the one that fixed it:
> 
> Deselect:  Tools/Options/View/"Use OpenGL for all rendering"
> 
> Problem persisted until I re-started Write.
> 
> Thank you all for the help, my daughter will be delighted when she 
> prints in the morning her first typed essay.

[cut]

I'm pleased that your problem is resolved: your file has been deleted
from my machine. For what it's worth, it prints correctly under Debian 8
and LibreOffice 5.0.2.2

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Images not printing

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 22/10/15 18:44, Aureli wrote:
> Hi, Thanks for the tips but the problem persists.
> 
> I installed LO just a couple of days ago and it is version 5.0.2.2. 
> running in Win 10 Home with no problems so far.
> 
> I have now uninstalled Office, it was the trial copy so no payments
> yet, but expired and could only read files after that.
> 
> My printer HP laserjet P1102W has been printing correctly all along,
>  only that Writer still does not print images.  Also, something that
> I didn't mention earlier, at the very top margin, it prints what it
> seems to be the bottom part of some text.  I'll attach a scan of the
>  printout.  If I increase the font of the text, the very top half
> hidden text prints bigger too.  I am attaching a scan of the printout
> (I'm not sure if this will show in the forum). The image should have
> been printed right after the text.

[cut]
Can you share the file? It shouldn't be too hard to find the solution.

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Images not printing

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 22/10/15 20:07, Aureli wrote:
> Sure, here it is.

Thanks. I'll look at it in the morning.

> 
> A.
> 
> 
>> [cut]
>> Can you share the file? It shouldn't be too hard to find the solution.
>>
>> Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] OS hangs while visiting a LO wiki page

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 15/09/15 13:48, Ady Ady wrote:
>  Hello Users of LibreOffice,
> 
> Once in a while I visit the Release Plan wiki page,
>  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
> 
> From that wiki page, I recently tried to visit the "5.0.2" -> "RC1"
> page (more than once), but my OS hangs when I click on the relevant
> link.
> 
> Of course, it could be just a coincidence. I am reluctant to try to
> reach these pages again, especially considering that every new wiki
> page in the series is based on the prior one.
> 
> I am using Windows Vista Home Basic 32-bit, with Internet Explorer 9
> and Mozilla Firefox 40.0.3, all updated.
> 
> The strange behavior happened with both web browsers.
> 
> I don't know whether some security tool being in use (e.g. Avast)
> might be relevant.
> 
> I wanted to share this unusual experience, in case someone else
> happens to see it too (or something similar, or at least uncommon),
> and/or maybe it might be worth someone checking the source of these
> wiki pages (and their related nested templates).
> 
> I am aware that this behavior (hanging OS) would be considered
> "unlikely to be triggered by some wiki page". The fact that it
> happened to me more than once while following the same links (but
> nowhere else) pushed me to at least comment on it.
> 
> TIA,
> Ady.
> 
No problems with Debian and Iceweasel.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Watermarks

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 09/08/15 08:11, Tim Lloyd wrote:
 I have to say I am beaten by this. I had a look at some old doco which
 echoed what Joe said. Any takers?
 
 On 09/08/15 05:31, Joe Conner wrote:
 Using Ubuntu 15.04 64bit
 Using Version: 4.4.5.2
 I am trying to insert a watermark into a writer document.
 The help files says:

 1.

Choose *Format - Page*.

 2.

On the *Background* tab page, select a background color or a
background graphic.

 However, there is NO background tab  on *Format - Page***. What
 happened? To where
 was it moved?

 Now, how do you create a watermark?

 Thank you. Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

 
 
Further to my previous post: the 'Area' tab may not be so useful after
all. There is no obvious way of employing a user chosen bitmap rather
than the pre-set patterns which, whilst not a show-stopper, would
involve a certain amount of fiddling to put a user chosen bitmap into
the selection list.

Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Business Cards - Printing - Libre Writer version 4.3.5.2

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 15/03/15 00:18, charles meyer wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 
 I’ve never printed business cards using Libre Writer and it didn’t go
 well using the Avery online template.
 
 I have blank sheets of cardstock (bought at Office Depot) to print my
 own business cards with logo - one sided only.
 
 There’s 10 business cards on each sheet of cardstock - 2 across and 5 down.
 
 Each card is 2 inches by 3.5 inches.
 
 Is there some kind of a template in Libre Writer for business card printing?
 
 I’ll bet you can do it by using tables or charts but that’s way past
 my expertise.
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 Charles.
 
Depending upon where you live I might be able to help. I created a
table-based template for just such a purpose and if you use the
International standard A4 sized stock I would be happy to send you a
copy. If you are using US Letter sized stock you still might want the
template and modify it to suit.

Let me know.

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] PDF Extnension for Libre Office/Writer or Open Office

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

 See the title barOn 31/12/14 01:56, anne-ology wrote:
would you please explain how you're able to open these PDFs so.
 
 
 
 From: charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:57 PM
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] PDF Extnension for Libre Office/Writer or Open
 Office
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 
 
 I've discovered, at least with my new Libre Office 4.3.5.2, that I can
 open a PDF or .jpg in Writer and not have to open Draw.

No you can't! You may start in Writer, but when you open a PDF file you
should observe a switch to Draw. See the title bar to confirm.

 I can also insert images (from file) into these respective documents
 and then print them to a PDF, if desired, or save as .odt, MS Word,
 etc.

I would be very surprised if you are able to save as anything other than
a Draw document (.odg), or Draw template. Of course you will be able to
*print* as a PDF after editing.

Happy New Year


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Nitpicking on a name

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

Bravo!

On 25/07/14 08:19, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I apologize as what I am writing about might seem like a detail to
 many, but I think it hurts a bit the project in the end to leave
 these things as they are.
 
 On this list (a few others as well but esp. On this one) people call
 LibreOffice LO. We -sorry to take on my founder's hat here- never
 called LibreOffice LO.
 
 Historically the people who did were long time OpenOffice.org users
 who were a bit skeptical of us at first and who felt necessary to
 formatLibreOffice in a way they thought was easier.
 
 Now you will tell me that it is easier to type LO than it is with
 LibreOffice. Perhaps. But everyone here writes MS Office...
 
 Anyway the point I am trying to make is that LO does not mean
 anything and sends the wrong message. We are not low , we are not
 hello, we are libre people. Ans when I say we I lean everyone
 here.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Charles.
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Deleting a Table in Impress

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 17/05/14 16:07, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Brian Barker wrote:

At 11:22 15/05/2014 -0700, Frank 'CVAlkan' Oberle wrote:

Thanks Brian, but still nothing.


Interesting.  Do these techniques not work for others in Impress?


Having inserted a table via Insert  Table, any of Brian's suggestions
work for me to delete it in 4.0.4.2 and 4.2.0.4. Admittedly those are
not the latest versions.

It looks like there may be a bug, introduced around 4.2.3.3:
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78326

Mark.


A swift test with 4.2.4 (64 bit) reveals that an empty table cannot be 
deleted, even though selected, but entering *any* data in a cell allows 
selection and deletion of the table.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Deleting a Table in Impress

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 17/05/14 16:07, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Brian Barker wrote:

At 11:22 15/05/2014 -0700, Frank 'CVAlkan' Oberle wrote:

Thanks Brian, but still nothing.


Interesting.  Do these techniques not work for others in Impress?


Having inserted a table via Insert  Table, any of Brian's suggestions
work for me to delete it in 4.0.4.2 and 4.2.0.4. Admittedly those are
not the latest versions.

It looks like there may be a bug, introduced around 4.2.3.3:
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78326

Mark.


Further to my last post, this behaviour is not consistent. Since my 
previous test I've closed LibreOffice, re-opened a new presentation and 
repeated the test: the table can be consistently inserted and deleted.


Presently I've no idea what's going on, but a workaround for afflicted 
presentations may be the insertion of random data in to a table cell as 
per my first test.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 17/12/13 01:48, Don C. Myers wrote:

Hi Virgil,

They have really worked well for me. With the frame based templates, I
always had trouble with the spacing on the labels changing as you would
get into the bottom third of the label sheet. The frame based templates
print out perfectly from top to bottom, and they are so easy to adjust.
I've left similar posts when people have had issues before, but it seems
very few are willing to try the table based formats. Maybe they try to
use the wizard, which is not the way to set up a table based template.

Don

[cut]

It was in 2006 that I created a set of table-based label templates plus 
a short tutorial. The templates are in a variety of Avery style sizes 
and both A4 and American Letter sizes. I engaged in a little rant on 
this list about the illogicality of basing label templates on frames, 
raised an issue and noted a deafening silence in response - probably NIH 
syndrome.


Anyway, the templates are still here and available to anyone who asks.

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] missing menu launcher link in 4.1.2.3

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 11/10/13 13:51, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


I noticed that 4.1.2.3 for Debian 64-bit [Ubuntu 12.04LTS/MATE] is
missing the generic menu launcher listing for LO. The one that
does not go directly to any of the modules, like Writer or Calc.


[cut]


So, was that generic launcher link removed from the list that is
placed in the ApplicationsOffice menu?  Or did something happen to
my install process?


[cut]
It's been accidentally omitted I would guess, as I've noticed the same
thing.


As I stated, I like to have that generic launcher on my desktop
screen and the top panel.  If it is no longer available, then I will
have to live without it.


[cut]

Why not just create it - as I did - rather than live without it?

Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Label Printing in LO Writer

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 03/10/13 14:39, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 10/03/2013 09:17 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

On 03/10/13 08:48, Ian Whitfield wrote:

Hi All

This past week I was given a small job to do to produce some 40-odd
individual labels.

I remembered that Writer has a Label Function so decided to use that.
The labels were 10 to aa A4 page in two columns (Unknown type - local
manufacturer) so I decided to use user to set-up the spacing.

No matter what I tried the Label Box will *NOT* accept any label size -
whatever I enter in there it changes back to 0.10cm every time!! (I also
feel the box labels could be made very much more intuitive!! - ie
Horizontal Pitch could be Label Spacing etc.

I'm using PCLinuxOS 2013-08 and I tried with an old LO ver 3 and my ver
4.12 - same result.

Has anybody noticed this or know of a work-round??


Yes! Using frames for label production has been a thorn in my hide for
years now and yet it is so easy to create a table-based template -
I've created dozens. Maybe you should do the same? It's a certainty
that Scribus is overkill. :-)

Peter HB




Last time I printed labels using LO, I just used a .doc label template
from Avery for the label sheets I used.

That can be a pain for some people, but it works the best for me.


Table based! ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Label Printing in LO Writer

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 03/10/13 16:27, Don C. Myers wrote:


On 10/03/2013 10:16 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

On 03/10/13 14:39, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 10/03/2013 09:17 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

On 03/10/13 08:48, Ian Whitfield wrote:

Hi All

This past week I was given a small job to do to produce some 40-odd
individual labels.

I remembered that Writer has a Label Function so decided to use that.
The labels were 10 to aa A4 page in two columns (Unknown type - local
manufacturer) so I decided to use user to set-up the spacing.

No matter what I tried the Label Box will *NOT* accept any label
size -
whatever I enter in there it changes back to 0.10cm every time!! (I
also
feel the box labels could be made very much more intuitive!! - ie
Horizontal Pitch could be Label Spacing etc.

I'm using PCLinuxOS 2013-08 and I tried with an old LO ver 3 and my
ver
4.12 - same result.

Has anybody noticed this or know of a work-round??


Yes! Using frames for label production has been a thorn in my hide for
years now and yet it is so easy to create a table-based template -
I've created dozens. Maybe you should do the same? It's a certainty
that Scribus is overkill. :-)

Peter HB




Last time I printed labels using LO, I just used a .doc label template
from Avery for the label sheets I used.

That can be a pain for some people, but it works the best for me.


Table based! ;-)



Table style templates have worked great for me, with very accurate
placement of the text on the label. I've been doing labels in OpenOffice
and LibreOffice together for about 8 years. American size table style
templates are available here:
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm


./..and here. I did all mine in A4, but I also created a parallel set in 
American Letter size to go with a tutorial as wot I wrote.


Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote:
[cut]


However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux
Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all.
It's an excellent typeface, and so far, the latest LO stable version,
4.0.5, seems to work very well with it. (Despite its Linux name,
the font works just as well in Windows.)

http://www.numbertext.org/linux/ (Libertine has an equally excellent
 companion sans-serif font, Linux Bolinium G)

Using the advanced features requires adding extensions to the font
name, such as Linux Libertine G:onum=1 to use old style numbers.
Various extensions are separated by the ampersand (). It can be a
little cumbersome at first, but there is an excellent guide at:

www.numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.pdf

The Typography Toolbar extension makes its use easier.

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/typo


This looks very useful, but I note that it hasn't been updated since
2010 and OOo (LO?) 3.4. Is it known to function with LO 4.1?

Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 09/09/13 19:49, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 09/09/2013 11:52 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:

On 09/09/2013 10:57 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote:
[cut]


However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux
Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all.
It's an excellent typeface, and so far, the latest LO stable version,
4.0.5, seems to work very well with it. (Despite its Linux name,
the font works just as well in Windows.)

http://www.numbertext.org/linux/ (Libertine has an equally excellent
  companion sans-serif font, Linux Bolinium G)

Using the advanced features requires adding extensions to the font
name, such as Linux Libertine G:onum=1 to use old style numbers.
Various extensions are separated by the ampersand (). It can be a
little cumbersome at first, but there is an excellent guide at:

www.numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.pdf

The Typography Toolbar extension makes its use easier.

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/typo


This looks very useful, but I note that it hasn't been updated since
2010 and OOo (LO?) 3.4. Is it known to function with LO 4.1?

[cut]

I seem to have been misunderstood. My query referred to the Typography 
Toolbar extension and a little searching found the current version for 
LO 4.x.


Sorry for the noise.

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cloister Font.

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 08/07/13 21:59, John Boyle wrote:

To USERS: I asked this question earlier about how to find just that one
font, but I did not make it clear what I had already done. First I use a
Windows 7- 64 bit system, with libre office 4.0 suite. I have tried a
Google search and ended up with getting a installation package of
several programs, NONE of which I needed and then finding out that the
package did not even include the font I wanted. I would like to have one
font titled Cloister and, short of buying a Print Master program or
Print shop , I have no way of knowing how to get that Font, and,
clearly, do not want five or six other programs cluttering up the
system.can anyone tell me how I can go about doing this?


A quick search for Cloister+font appears to meet your requirements.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing font from font list

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 23/05/13 16:02, Warner White wrote:

SOLVED!

Thanks to all of you for patiently talking this through with me until
I found the problem.

It was this--

First I put my fonts into /usr/share/fonts/truetype and when that
didn't work, I put them into home/.fonts. I remembered that just now
and deleted them from the former to see what would happen. And it
solved the problem. Now I have them all recognized and working.

But it's odd that the malfunction was so selective about which fonts
not to set up properly.


You probably forgot to update the font cache 'sudo fc-cache -f' when you
placed them in /usr/share...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Why such large svg files in LibreOffice (Linux)?

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 22/05/13 19:13, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

chimak111 schrieb:

I installed LibreOffice Version 4.0.2.2 (Build ID:
4c82dcdd6efcd48b1d8bba66bfe1989deee49c3) direct from
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ on Lubuntu 13.04. While I have no
issues with it [I]per se[/I], I think it has installed some svg files in
/usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/apps that are really horrible.

These svg files are several hundred kB in size and one,
libreoffice4.0-calc.svg, is 1.3 MB.


Is that the exact filename? I do not find it with
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org

Is it possible, that this file is no original LibreOffice file, but has
been added by your distro?


Hello Regina,

I confirm that the file in question is present with a vanilla 
installation of 4.0.3. I never rely on modified versions from my 
distribution, but always install the stock version from LibreOffice.org


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ubuntu Libreoffice

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 06/12/12 03:00, Don Myers wrote:

Hi Anthony,

This is how I update to each new version of the Document Foundation
version of Libre Office. This is for the 64 bit version, but simply
substitute the 32 bit version for the 64 bit. This is for the latest
 3.6.4.3 release:

Download LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz to the
desktop. Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will
give you the folder LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US Run
the following terminal commands to install it: 1. sudo apt-get remove
libreoffice*.* 2. sudo dpkg -i
~/Desktop/LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb 3.
sudo dpkg -i
~/Desktop/LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.6-debian-menus_3.6.4-3_all.deb


A shorter option is as follows:
1   Download the appropriate file(s)
2   tar zxvf ./wherever you downloaded to/downloaded '.tar./gz' file
3   sudo dpkg -iR ./as above/extracted installation directory/DEBS

The 'R' option, as suggested by it's character, invokes a recursive 
operation on all .deb files in all sub-directories, thus avoiding the 
redundant operation on the desktop integration stuff.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels custom format

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 21/09/12 13:04, Werner F. Bruhin wrote:

On 20/09/2012 20:48, Werner F. Bruhin wrote:

I am hitting my head against this for the last day or so.

I define a custom label 2 columns 6 rows, the labels are 10.5cm x 4.8cm
with a top edge of 0.45cm.

I then create a document and insert a horizontal line and sync the
labels and print it.

In my view the horizontal line should be printed every 4.8cm (6 times),
however they print a little off, difficult to measure but I would say
they are about 4.75cm apart.

Obviously my real label will have more then a horizontal line, at the
top it has an image, with a return address text to the right and then
further down a mail merge will print the address.

The labels do not fit on the paper correctly, the first 3 rows are fine,
but then it goes off too much to be usable.

I was on 3.5.x, when googling about this I noticed some posts about
alignment issues with avery labels which are fixed in 3.0.x, so I
upgraded to 3.6.1 but I still see the same issue.

Is this a know issue?

Werner

P.S.
Is there a way of changing the label definition on an existing document,
or do I really have to start all over again each time I want to
adjust/fine tune my label layout?



O.K.
I take it that no answer here on the list means that either no one uses
mail merge with labels or just printing to labels using a custom format.

I will open an issue on the bug tracker later today.  In the mean time I
installed WordPerfect 11 (2003) and defined my custom label and it
prints without issues, i.e. correctly aligned.

I am not complaining, as besides the label handling I have mostly
converted over to OO and LibreOffice for some time now.  But I have to
say the label definition and handling in general is I am sorry to say
ugly/archaic.  I strongly suggest to look at this maybe for 3.7 and if
so take a very very close look at the old WP interface which is hundred
times more intuitive then the current LO one when it comes to label
definition/changing and general label/merge handling.

Werner



Hello Werner,

you might also want to look at creating your label template(s) with a 
table, rather than the curious frame based system used currently by 
LibreOffice. It's what I do and it is very successful. I find that I 
have more accurate control over the layout with this method.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels custom format

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 21/09/12 16:13, Alan Boba wrote:

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook 
p...@hbsys.plus.comwrote:



you might also want to look at creating your label template(s) with a
table, rather than the curious frame based system used currently by
LibreOffice. It's what I do and it is very successful. I find that I have
more accurate control over the layout with this method.



Peter, how do you control vertical height of the table frames?

I just had difficulties creating labels myself. Very laborious for me using
frames and sections. I tried tables shortly after starting the
frame/section method but just couldn't find any way to specify the height
of individual cells in the tables so abandoned it and went back to frames
and sections.

I'm not sure that I follow your question. I previously said that I use 
tables, *rather* than frames for labelling purposes, so your conjunction 
of tables and frames does not compute. :-)


Obviously cell height gives the control of individual table cells so as 
long as the top margin is set correctly everything else follows. (unless 
you're a fellow Englishman who prefers something a little more 
sophisticated than the metric measuring system, then you might have to 
indulge in a little sleight of hand to achieve accuracy.)


If Avery label stock is your starting point I have a variety of 
templates that I'm happy to share.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Version collision 3.6.0 vs. 3.6.1 on every Xubuntu 12.04 update

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 18/09/12 16:15, MR ZenWiz wrote:

I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 with LibreOffice 3.6.1, but apparently now
that Ubuntu has upgraded its LO to 3.6.0, I get errors because that is
not compatible with 3.6.1 and they collide.  Since I missed this the
first time it happened, I get errors on every update because of this
conflict.

3.6.1 fixed a number of annoying problems that happened in 3.6.0 and
I'm not willing to give it up.

So, other than backing out of LO 3.6.1, is there a way to get rid of
those errors?

Thanks.

MR

You could always emulate my methodology. I clear out all traces of 
LibreOffice with Synaptic and then install the real thing from the LO 
download site.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 29/08/12 16:03, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

I've just updated to LibO 3.6.1 and hit the following problem when
trying to access my address book

Does anyone recognise it, Google doesn't?
___
The attempt to load the file resulted in the following error message
(com.sun.star.lang.IllegalArgumentException):

Unsupported URL file:///home/phb//AddressBook.ods
___


After all that fuss, for which I apologise profusely, it turned out that 
the file didn't exist! If the diagnostic had been a little more accurate 
we could all have avoided this nonsense, especially about Java 1.7_06 
which now works perfectly well in my context on several installations 
and various machines.


Why didn't the file exist, you may ask? I had tidied (?) up my directory 
structures and the file in question was moved elsewhere. Talk about a 
red face!


Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 29/08/12 23:39, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
LibreOffice doesn't have a 64bit version and allegedly needs java to be 32 bit 
too.
Regards from
Tom :)


I don't know where you got that idea from, unless you haven't noticed 
that I'm talking about Linux, not the MS product. ;-)


I've been using fully 64 bit systems for several years, firstly with OOo 
and then LO and, as indicated further down this thread, the combination 
is functioning perfectly well on another system with the same software 
installation(s). I'm guessing that the mal-functioning is related to the 
profile somewhere. Experiments continue.


Peter HB


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[libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

I've just updated to LibO 3.6.1 and hit the following problem when 
trying to access my address book


Does anyone recognise it, Google doesn't?
___
The attempt to load the file resulted in the following error message 
(com.sun.star.lang.IllegalArgumentException):


Unsupported URL file:///home/phb//AddressBook.ods
___

Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
Java 1.7_06 (and 05)

All was well with LibO 3.6.0 and Java 1.7_05 just prior to the upgrade, 
carried out by complete removal of 3.6.0 via Synaptic and clean 
installation of the real product, downloaded from the LibreOffice web 
site via dpkg -iR


Thanks for any helpful response.

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 29/08/12 16:03, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

I've just updated to LibO 3.6.1 and hit the following problem when
trying to access my address book

Does anyone recognise it, Google doesn't?
___
The attempt to load the file resulted in the following error message
(com.sun.star.lang.IllegalArgumentException):

Unsupported URL file:///home/phb//AddressBook.ods
___

Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
Java 1.7_06 (and 05)

All was well with LibO 3.6.0 and Java 1.7_05 just prior to the upgrade,
carried out by complete removal of 3.6.0 via Synaptic and clean
installation of the real product, downloaded from the LibreOffice web
site via dpkg -iR


Interestingly everything is fine on a 32 bit installation!


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 29/08/12 17:55, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

On 29/08/12 16:03, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

I've just updated to LibO 3.6.1 and hit the following problem when
trying to access my address book

Does anyone recognise it, Google doesn't?
___

The attempt to load the file resulted in the following error message
(com.sun.star.lang.IllegalArgumentException):

Unsupported URL file:///home/phb//AddressBook.ods
___


Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
Java 1.7_06 (and 05)

All was well with LibO 3.6.0 and Java 1.7_05 just prior to the upgrade,
carried out by complete removal of 3.6.0 via Synaptic and clean
installation of the real product, downloaded from the LibreOffice web
site via dpkg -iR


Interestingly everything is fine on a 32 bit installation!


It gets even more murky! My problem occurred under Kubuntu. Installing 
on another machine running Ubuntu with the dreaded Unity went just fine.


Thanks for all the feedback.

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update to 3.6.1

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 29/08/12 18:50, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :) Errr, on the 64bit Ubuntu is the java also 64bit?  If it is
then can you try installing a 32 bit version of 1.6_32?  LO can be
told which version of java to use so it might work Tools - Options -
Java Regards from Tom :)


That sounds like Windows solution! :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice and Java

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 24/08/12 13:22, Bob McDonald wrote:

I'm having a bit of a bother with any version of Libreoffice
installed with JRE 1.7 on Windows 7.

Libreoffice crashes on start with any version of Java JRE greater
than 1.6.  If I go back to 1.6 I'm O.K.

Anyone else having issues?


No problems here with fully updated Win7 64bit plus jre 1.7 Update 5. I 
assume that you know you have to use the 32 bit Java with Win 7? At 
least you used to and that's what I keep and have tested here.


Peter HB

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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.5 with Lubuntu

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

I'm running LO 3.5 under Lubuntu 12.04 and, until recently the relevant 
icons appeared under Office in the menu system. Now they don't and I 
have to start the program via the command line. Any ideas anyone?


For information the installation is the real LO installed via dpkg, 
not the Ubuntu build with its attendant problems. :-)


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 27/03/12 22:03, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Peter,

Peter Hillier-Brook wrote (27-03-12 11:40)


...but it's still based, illogically in my view, on dynamically
generated frames, rather than the more obvious tables. Labels are
tabular after all and this frame fetish has frustrated me for some years.

For anyone interested, I made a set of tabular templates, both A4 and
American Letter sizes some years ago and they have served me well. The
only drawback is in replicating (or alternatively deleting) enough pages
to meet output requirements. It would be a fairly trivial exercise to
program this as a replacement for the frame based system.


Thanks for your work on these templates.
There is a nice advantage for the regular labels: the option to
synchronise all labels with changes on the first label.


Hello Cor,

many thanks for your response, despite you not having seen my template 
set. ;-) I created them for my own use, but then decided that they might 
enjoy wider usage so I wrote a simple tutorial and made the package 
available as a .zip archive.


With regard to your comments about synchronisation, this is a coding 
function and not inherently dependant upon the frame basis, rather than 
the more logical table approach. If the code was written in 'C' rather 
than 'C++' I might be tempted to fix it, but I can't stand over-verbose 
languages and avoid the latter like the plague. :-)


Regards

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 26/03/12 22:20, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Michael, Alex,

Alexander Thurgood wrote (26-03-12 11:18)


There has been a rather substantial amount of work put into
updating label definitions in the labels.xcu file,


Indeed, one of the volunteer developers not inly changed the
label.xcu file, but also improved the code handling all the stuff.
Really cool! It is bug 44516.


...but it's still based, illogically in my view, on dynamically 
generated frames, rather than the more obvious tables. Labels are 
tabular after all and this frame fetish has frustrated me for some years.


For anyone interested, I made a set of tabular templates, both A4 and 
American Letter sizes some years ago and they have served me well. The 
only drawback is in replicating (or alternatively deleting) enough pages 
to meet output requirements. It would be a fairly trivial exercise to 
program this as a replacement for the frame based system.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 27/03/12 12:28, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Trivial but time consuming?  Is anyone able to do a load of these and then 
upload them as templates to the official templates site?

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I did that years ago, together with a short tutorial although Google 
doesn't seem able to find it. I'm more than willing to upload again, if 
there's any demand.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] problem installing in xubuntu

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 22/01/12 02:04, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
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 ...and next time you might want to use dpkg -iR /DEBS from the

immediately superior directory to the DEBS one. From direct experience
I know it installs LO correctly with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and my
personal preference, Lubuntu. ;-)

Peter HB


I never used the -iR
It is not listed that way in the Linux install documentation, or it did
not the last time I copied the instructions from LO's site.


info dpkg was my source. I always like to know how tools work before 
following READMEs. ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] problem installing in xubuntu

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 21/01/12 15:26, drew wrote:

On Sat, 2012-01-21 at 15:45 +0100, Joep L. Blom wrote:

I got the version LO 3.4.5 from the official Lo site
(LibO_3.4.5_Linux_x86-64_helppack-deb_nl.tar.gz). I installed it
using sud dpkg -i *.DEB (after unpacking and going to the correct
directory. It installed correct in /opt/libreoffice. However no
links were placed in Applications/Office. The only method to run
soffice or writer is to go into the /opt/libreoffice/program
directory and start from there. How do I get the
Applications/Office tab populated? and why doesn't it work
automatically.


Howdy Joep,

In the directory where you installed the *.DEB packages from you
will also find the directory 'desktop-integration', switch into this
directory and re-issue the same dpkg -i command - the menu shortcuts
will be all setup for you.

...and next time you might want to use dpkg -iR /DEBS from the 
immediately superior directory to the DEBS one. From direct experience I 
know it installs LO correctly with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and my 
personal preference, Lubuntu. ;-)


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: border frames

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 09/12/11 17:19, 20rdj04 wrote:

Suddenly, all my documents have frames around them.  I must assume
that the frames come from LO's new version  3.3.4 (or whatever).  I
like my pages to be clean, not with a lot of distractions.  CAN I
turn off/remove the frames? I have already attempted to change the
color to white so they would fade away :(  Thanks.


I.m guessing that you are referring to borders and I'm also guessing 
that the borders are around your pages. If so, turn them off with 
formatpage and the Borders tab. Now ask yourself how/why you turned 
them on in the first place so as to avoid a repeat.


Hint. If they have appeared on multiple documents it is likely that the 
border formatting is applied via a page style that you commonly use.


If my guesswork is invalid, try a more explicit description of your problem.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Works-2

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

Hello John,

I have MS Office 97  2000 that I'm willing to flash up in a virtual 
machine if it will help. If your Works version is old enough that the MS 
filters in Word 97/2000 can open your files I will be happy to convert a 
few to ODF for you.


By a few I mean less than a dozen. :-)

Peter HB

On 17/11/11 19:29, Alex Thurgood wrote:

Le 17/11/2011 18:33, John Gregson a écrit :

Hi John,


I can now open some of the MS Works, Word Processor files (.WPS)
However, I find that any Works file .wps; that has a Table in it
will not open in Libre Office. Am I missing something?


Probably not, the MSWorks WPS filter was never perfect and I doubt
that it will be improved. The LibO project is phasing out the former
binary filters that were required to open StarOffice binary formats,
so it is unlikely that any developers are going to be interested in
improving the WPS import filter.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Math does not export properly

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 01/11/11 08:36, Jacques Malaprade wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for the advice.

The equation will not export to a od writer format. I have printed to
file (.ps) but could not export to a pdf (apparently my printer does not
have that option)


Ghostscript will convert Postscript to PDF all day and every day. ;-)

Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Win7 x64 JRE Base...

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 20/10/11 04:32, clive wrote:

I have Win7 x64 and installed Libre 3.4.3. All was well for a while.
Then I had the bright idea to install JRE 7 x64 and Base stopped
working when pointed at the path for JRE 7 (x64).


You can't use the 64 bit JRE with LibreOffice on Windows: it's a 32 bit
application on ALL Windows versions so you need to install the 32 bit JRE.


I uninstalled Libre, uninstalled all versions (x64 and x86) of JRE,
and reinstalled JRE (x86/32) 6 Update 26 and Libre x86.


Very Windows, but not very effective;-) You probably need to
rename/remove the LO configuration file directory, which isn't removed
when you un-install the program.

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Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Can't use Base, but
really don't wanna pay for Access or FileMaker...


No need. See above.

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[libreoffice-users] Older versions of LibreOffice

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

I need to get hold of the Linux (.deb) versions starting with 3.2.1. Can 
anyone point me to an archive - all the mirrors I have searched so far 
start with 3.3.3.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Older versions of LibreOffice

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

Thanks for your response.

On 07/08/11 16:09, Manfred J. Krause wrote:

Hi,

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 16:23, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

I need to get hold of the Linux (.deb) versions starting with 3.2.1. Can
anyone point me to an archive - all the mirrors I have searched so far start
with 3.3.3.


Version 3.2.1? Do you mean v3.3.1?


I meant 3.2.1, but had forgotten that that was OpenOffice. What I'm 
trying to do is establish when the inability to use an address data 
source (in Linux) was introduced. It seems from the thread that I 
initiated in the discuss list that this bug is not viewed as important 
and I just want to go back to a release that makes the product usable 
again. For the moment I'm using 3.4.2 under WinXP in a virtual machine - 
crude, but it works. :-)


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Older versions of LibreOffice

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 07/08/11 19:41, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
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Is this the one you want? I do not have the 32-bit version.
OOo_3.2.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
160 MB file.


No, I'm fine now but thanks for the offer(s).

Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Default Paper size

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 29/05/2011 11:17, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :) I looked there but couldn't find it in English (GB) help files
yet.  Could you copypaste the clear and concise explanation you
found?  Pointing at documentation is great if you can summarise it
well.  Certainly better than blind guesses or an Rtfm answer ;)
Regards from Tom :)


I don't see how it could be any more clear. From the menu bar select
Help/LibreOfficeHelp then type the word 'default' in the search box.
This brings you to default templates. from where you click on
'Display'. Read, mark and inwardly digest everything in the displayed
section and you should be home and dry.

The first paragraph is the key item, but it does presuppose that you 
understand the use of styles, specifically page styles. This is where 
you define A4 as the default page format.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with paths

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 13/04/2011 12:01, Jeffrey Needle wrote:

Hello, everyone. I'm using the portable build of LibreOffice from
portableapps.com on a WinXP system.

I'm trying to change the documents directory that LibreOffice uses. I
go to Options, Paths and change the documents path. I click OK. I
close LO, reopen it, and the change to the path is lost. I can't find
any way to get the change to the path to stick. Is this a known bug?

Thanks.


Your question would be better addressed to PortableApps.com. They are
the organisation who modify LO to render it portable.

A first question might be, is the default document path on your 
portable device? To maintain the concept of portability, this may be an 
immutable default, although I can't claim to know from experience.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Extensions Locked in LO 3.3

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 10/02/2011 03:09, Cliff Scott wrote:
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I did a modify install and all dictionaries except EN were already
marked not to install. There were no options to remove them in the
Extension list. These unwanted extensions are all kinds of
dictionaries like Russian, Vietnamese, Swiss and many more. Why are
they there when the install program was instructed not to install
them? Does anyone else see this?

Cliff


Yes! It's bl***y annoying, isn't it? I tried a root login (and admin in 
Win 7) to no avail so it's not just a permissions thing. I suppose a bit 
of manual hacking would fix it, but I don't really want to waste my time 
on that.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using external addressbooks as a data source

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 08/02/2011 17:38, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
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Thanks for that - I thought they did. I'm running just over my
average daily bandwidth usage (I'm on a capped bandwidth broadband
package) so when I've got some slack back I'll try that. Just one
question - having installed LO from the ppa, how do I uninstall it?
It doesn't appear in the Ubuntu Software Centre, and I can't seem to
get the apt-get syntax right for uninstalling...


My policy would be to use Synaptic and un-install completely everything 
with an LO ID and then use the debs (dpkg -iR ./DEBS from the 
installation directory).


Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-users] can you have both OOo and LibreOffice installed into Ubuntu?

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 08/12/2010 20:18, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
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I know for OOo, you need to install the main DEBs and then need to
install the DEB menu or desktop integration file[s].  They are in
separate folders and must be done separately.


It depends upon the location to which they are extracted.


It that what you mean by installing twice?

I never seen the dpkg -iR ./DEBS terminal command before. Of course,
I have little references to the terminal in my thick Ubuntu book.  It
has been a long while I have used a command line based command
system.  It has been since PC-DOS days for desktops and DEC and IBM
mainframe days for the other systems.  So I need to learn Ubuntu's
terminal commands and how to use them correctly.


dpkg --help will answer all questions. This is a function of dpkg and is 
nothing to do with Ubuntu. Suffice to say, the 'R' option causes dpkg to 
recursively install all .debs is the target directory.


Peter HB

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