Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/11/18 3:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that
there was a permission issue with geoclue2


What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for 
geoclue2?


Agent rejected 'redshift' for user '500'


What desktop are you using?
What version of redshift and geoclue2 do you have?
Geoclue requires an agent for permission handling.  The desktop 
environment is supposed to handle that.  You could try running 
/usr/libexec/geoclue-2.0/demos/agent and see if that helps.
Is this a system that has been upgraded for a very long time and your 
user id is 500?

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Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/12/18 3:29 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 11/11/18 4:38 PM, home user via users wrote:
>> (f28 and Gnome, both up-to-date as of last Thursday, using "dnf upgrade 
>> --refresh")
>> I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d".
>> I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d -twentyfour".
>
> On my F29, it doesn't.
 
I don't either.  Unless, that is, I "export LC_TIME=C".  Or use a locale that 
does 24hr
clock as its default.



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Re: Qt 5 Apps on Wayland

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/11/18 9:43 PM, Dr. Zenzic wrote:

I have a qt 5 application that I'm trying to run on Fedora 29 running
Wayland. The app was built from source and was working correctly on
Fedora 28. After upgrading to 29 I am receiving the following warning
and the application doesn't start

"Warning: Ignoring XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland on Gnome. Use
QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland to run on Wayland anyway."


Did you try using that?


If I run it as root using sudo I get

"QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
No protocol specified
qt.qpa.screen: QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display :0
Could not connect to any X display."


Right, you can't easily run applications as root on Wayland.


Running the command with QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland-egl (per
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Wayland_problems#Looking_for_similar_reports)
I get the error

"QSocketNotifier: Can only be used with threads started with QThread"


That looks like an application bug.


I have the WAYLAND_DEBUG=1 output as well but it means nothing to me. I
dont know much about display backends and compsitors, but it seems like
the QT application is trying to connect to an XWayland display but can't
find one in Fedora 29. Does anyone have any suggestions to try and get
the application to display?


If you want it to try connecting to XWayland, then run it with 
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11. Like:

"XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11 myapp"
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Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/11/18 4:38 PM, home user via users wrote:

(f28 and Gnome, both up-to-date as of last Thursday, using "dnf upgrade 
--refresh")
I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d".
I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d -twentyfour".


On my F29, it doesn't.


The xclock man page lists the "-strftime" option for specifying digital date-time format, and says 
"This option allows an strftime(3) format string to be specified for the digital clock's display.". 
 So I would think it would it would interpret the "%n" specifier as does strftime.  Apparently, my 
thinking is wrong.  I thought xclock was calling strftime.  Apparently not, or maybe it does not know what to 
do with a part of what strftime returns.


I'm sure it does call strftime.  But whatever it's using to render the 
resulting string doesn't know to treat a newline in a special way.  It 
just renders the glyph instead.

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Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/12/18 2:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 11/11/2018 10:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> I just verified that that is not a problem since I created a user with 
>> UID=500 and
>> redshift worked just fine.
>
> Use grep 500 /etc/passwd to see if there's more than one user with that UID.  
> If there
> is, it may not be in the proper group, although I can't imagine why that 
> would be.
>

You're not asking me to do that, right?

FWIW, it is rather "hard" to add 2 users with the same UID.  You'd have to know 
to include
either -o or --non-unique to the adduser command.  

You'd also need a deliberate act to add user's with UID of less than 1000 since 
the
default is not to create users with UID of greater than 1000.  Unless, this is 
an upgraded
system.  I've not tried any of the various GUI to see if one can force lower 
numbers.


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Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/11/2018 10:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

I just verified that that is not a problem since I created a user with UID=500 
and
redshift worked just fine.


Use grep 500 /etc/passwd to see if there's more than one user with that 
UID.  If there is, it may not be in the proper group, although I can't 
imagine why that would be.

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Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/12/18 1:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/12/18 7:36 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/12/18 7:07 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that
> there was a permission issue with geoclue2
 What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for geoclue2?
>>> Agent rejected 'redshift' for user '500'
>>>
>>> Full error message:
>>>  https://ibb.co/gNc8aA
>> Is the UID of the user trying to start redsift 500?
>>
> I just verified that that is not a problem since I created a user with 
> UID=500 and
> redshift worked just fine.
>
> I did verify that I will get the error message you've shown if
> /usr/libexec/geoclue-2.0/demos/agent is not running.
>

Well, maybe the error message is somewhat different.

I've starting redshift from the command line after killing the agent and the 
message is

[maria@f29b-xfce ~]$ redshift
Trying location provider `geoclue2'...
Using provider `geoclue2'.
Using method `randr'.
Waiting for initial location to become available...
Unable to start GeoClue client: 
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied:
'redshift' disallowed, no agent for UID 500.
Access to the current location was denied by GeoClue!
Make sure that location services are enabled and that Redshift is permitted
to use location services. See https://github.com/jonls/redshift#faq for more
information.
Unable to get location from provider.

So, I get "no agent for UID 500" and your error message is "Agent rejected 
'redshift' for
user '500".

Hummm.

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Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/12/18 7:36 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/12/18 7:07 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>> On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
 Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that
 there was a permission issue with geoclue2
>>> What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for geoclue2?
>>
>> Agent rejected 'redshift' for user '500'
>>
>> Full error message:
>>  https://ibb.co/gNc8aA
> Is the UID of the user trying to start redsift 500?
>

I just verified that that is not a problem since I created a user with UID=500 
and
redshift worked just fine.

I did verify that I will get the error message you've shown if
/usr/libexec/geoclue-2.0/demos/agent is not running.

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Qt 5 Apps on Wayland

[Dr. Zenzic]

I have a qt 5 application that I'm trying to run on Fedora 29 running
Wayland. The app was built from source and was working correctly on
Fedora 28. After upgrading to 29 I am receiving the following warning
and the application doesn't start

"Warning: Ignoring XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland on Gnome. Use
QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland to run on Wayland anyway."

If I run it as root using sudo I get

"QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
No protocol specified
qt.qpa.screen: QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display :0
Could not connect to any X display."

Running the command with QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland-egl (per
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Wayland_problems#Looking_for_similar_reports)
I get the error

"QSocketNotifier: Can only be used with threads started with QThread"

I have the WAYLAND_DEBUG=1 output as well but it means nothing to me. I
dont know much about display backends and compsitors, but it seems like
the QT application is trying to connect to an XWayland display but can't
find one in Fedora 29. Does anyone have any suggestions to try and get
the application to display?


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Re: Where are the ACLs on /dev/usb devices specified?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Tony Nelson writes:


On 18-11-11 18:43:45, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

I'm trying to get NUT running. It fails to start because it setuids
itself to the nut user and then attempts to open the USB device node,
/dev/bus/usb/006/001

This fails with EACCESS because:

[root@monster tmp]# ls -al /dev/bus/usb/006/001
crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 640 Nov 11 13:49 /dev/bus/usb/006/002
[root@monster tmp]# getfacl /dev/bus/usb/006/002
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: dev/bus/usb/006/002
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rw-
group::rw-
group:lirc:rw-
mask::rw-
other::r--

So the ACLs give access to USB devices to the 'lirc' user, and 'nut' can't  
open this.

 ...

I don't know about ACLs, but how about:

setfacl -m u:nut:rw /dev/bus/usb/006/001

from `man setfacl`


That'll work until the next reboot, when everything gets reset.

Anyway, after poking around I found /usr/lib/udev/rules.d. nut installed a  
nice config file in there that enumerated all the USB vendor+product IDs and  
made the corresponding USB device nodes' permissions accessible to nut.


Unfortunately, the lirc-core package installed its own set of rules that  
overrode that, and, somewhat aggresively, claimed all usb devices for its  
own use, and reset their ACLs. This is a bug in the lirc-core package, and  
fully uninstalling lirc-core fixed this. Created bug 1648766 to document  
this.


P.S. This is really an awesome directory to dump configuration files into:  
/usr/lib/udev/rules.d. Apparently, /etc is not good enough, for udev.




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Re: Where are the ACLs on /dev/usb devices specified?

[Tony Nelson]

On 18-11-11 18:43:45, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

I'm trying to get NUT running. It fails to start because it setuids
itself to the nut user and then attempts to open the USB device node,
/dev/bus/usb/006/001

This fails with EACCESS because:

[root@monster tmp]# ls -al /dev/bus/usb/006/001
crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 640 Nov 11 13:49 /dev/bus/usb/006/001
[root@monster tmp]# getfacl /dev/bus/usb/006/001
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: dev/bus/usb/006/001
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rw-
group::rw-
group:lirc:rw-
mask::rw-
other::r--

So the ACLs give access to USB devices to the 'lirc' user, and 'nut'  
can't open this.

 ...

I don't know about ACLs, but how about:

setfacl -m u:nut:rw /dev/bus/usb/006/001

from `man setfacl`

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Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/11/2018 05:38 PM, home user via users wrote:

The xclock man page lists the "-strftime" option for specifying digital date-time format, and says 
"This option allows an strftime(3) format string to be specified for the digital clock's display.". 
 So I would think it would it would interpret the "%n" specifier as does strftime.  Apparently, my 
thinking is wrong.  I thought xclock was calling strftime.  Apparently not, or maybe it does not know what to 
do with a part of what strftime returns.


Well, open a Bugzilla on it.
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Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

[home user via users]

> On 11/11/18 12:34 PM, home user via users wrote:
> 
> Does that work for you?  It doesn't work for me.  I know that the man 
> page says it should do that, but it always gave me 12 hour instead.

(f28 and Gnome, both up-to-date as of last Thursday, using "dnf upgrade 
--refresh")
I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d".
I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d -twentyfour".

> Unlikely.  The problem is that xclock would have to interpret the 
> newline character and isn't designed to do that.

The xclock man page lists the "-strftime" option for specifying digital 
date-time format, and says "This option allows an strftime(3) format string to 
be specified for the digital clock's display.".  So I would think it would it 
would interpret the "%n" specifier as does strftime.  Apparently, my thinking 
is wrong.  I thought xclock was calling strftime.  Apparently not, or maybe it 
does not know what to do with a part of what strftime returns.

Bill.
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Re: strange problem

[Paolo Galtieri]

Chrome was working fine on this system yesterday.  The upgrade went 
fine, so I'm really stumped as to why it has stopped working.


Paolo

On 11/11/18 2:47 PM, stan wrote:

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 14:03:31 -0800
Paolo Galtieri  wrote:


What I don't understand about this problem is why it affects only one
system.  Chrome on my other system works fine as does chrome on my
android tablet.

Plugins?  Configuration?  Were some packages rejected for update
because of dependencies?  Try to remove chrome on the system that
doesn't work, and the system that works (be sure to say no to
confirmation). Does dnf want to delete the same packages, and the same
versions?

If the chrome is the same version, then it has to be something else.
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Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/11/2018 04:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that
there was a permission issue with geoclue2


What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for 
geoclue2?



Agent rejected 'redshift' for user '500'

Full error message:
  https://ibb.co/gNc8aA

Thank you.  Have you checked the faq that's referenced in the error 
messages, and if so, what did you find?  Also, what are the permissions 
on geoclue2?

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Where are the ACLs on /dev/usb devices specified?

[Sam Varshavchik]

I'm trying to get NUT running. It fails to start because it setuids itself  
to the nut user and then attempts to open the USB device node, /dev/bus/usb/ 
006/001


This fails with EACCESS because:

[root@monster tmp]# ls -al /dev/bus/usb/006/001
crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 640 Nov 11 13:49 /dev/bus/usb/006/001
[root@monster tmp]# getfacl /dev/bus/usb/006/001
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: dev/bus/usb/006/001
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rw-
group::rw-
group:lirc:rw-
mask::rw-
other::r--

So the ACLs give access to USB devices to the 'lirc' user, and 'nut' can't  
open this.


Where is this coming from? I don't use lirc any more, I did many years ago,  
so this must be the leftover from that era. I don't remember how I set it up  
back then.


Grepping through /etc for anything referencing the 'lirc' user, that might  
be specifying the ACLs for USB devices, doesn't find anything.




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Re: strange problem

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/11/2018 03:47 PM, stan wrote:

Try to remove chrome on the system that
doesn't work, and the system that works (be sure to say no to
confirmation).


Or, just use dnf --assumeno to make sure it doesn't get removed by accident.
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Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/12/18 7:07 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>>
>>> Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that
>>> there was a permission issue with geoclue2
>>
>> What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for geoclue2?
>
>
> Agent rejected 'redshift' for user '500'
>
> Full error message:
>  https://ibb.co/gNc8aA

Is the UID of the user trying to start redsift 500?

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Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that
there was a permission issue with geoclue2


What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for geoclue2?



Agent rejected 'redshift' for user '500'

Full error message:
 https://ibb.co/gNc8aA

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Re: strange problem

[stan]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 14:03:31 -0800
Paolo Galtieri  wrote:

> What I don't understand about this problem is why it affects only one 
> system.  Chrome on my other system works fine as does chrome on my 
> android tablet.

Plugins?  Configuration?  Were some packages rejected for update
because of dependencies?  Try to remove chrome on the system that
doesn't work, and the system that works (be sure to say no to
confirmation). Does dnf want to delete the same packages, and the same
versions?

If the chrome is the same version, then it has to be something else.
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Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure

[stan]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 22:09:33 +
Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> I suspect his English was already pretty good before he left Sweden.

I think you've just upset a lot of Finns.  :-)
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Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2018-11-11 at 15:51 -0500, Doug wrote:
> On 11/11/2018 03:34 PM, home user via users wrote:
> > Good afternoon,
> > 
> snip
> 
> If your Fedora doesn't supply the kde5 (Plasma) desktop I mentioned the 
> other day, rpmfind will get you a plasma rpm for Fedora. Nice clock with 
> the time above the date.

KDE5 is part of the standard Fedora repos.

poc
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Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2018-11-11 at 10:12 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 11/11/2018 02:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > [egreshko@meimei ~]$ ps -eaf | grep geoclue
> > egreshko  1691 1  0 Nov10 ?00:00:00 
> > /usr/libexec/geoclue-2.0/demos/agent
> > egreshko  5684  2503  0 17:25 pts/300:00:00 grep --color=auto geoclue
> 
> Try adding | grep -v grep to the end of that to get rid of the extra line.

Or use pgrep.

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Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2018-11-11 at 13:23 -0700, stan wrote:
> Given that English isn't his first language, that he can come up with
> such idiomatic remarks on the fly is also pretty amazing.  I think that
> at that point he'd only been in the US for a few years.

I suspect his English was already pretty good before he left Sweden.

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Re: strange problem

[Paolo Galtieri]

What I don't understand about this problem is why it affects only one 
system.  Chrome on my other system works fine as does chrome on my 
android tablet.


Paolo

On 11/11/18 12:12 PM, stan wrote:

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:55:06 -0800
Paolo Galtieri  wrote:


I encountered a strange problem today I'm wondering if someone can
explain what's going on.

Here's the problem, I have 2 systems running F28, one system was
upgraded from F27 two days ago, the other upgraded yesterday. Both
systems were working fine yesterday.  Today the second system will
not connect to any website using chrome, I get the following error


Your connection is not private

with the following detail

NET::ERR_CERT_WEAK_SIGNATURE_ALGORITHM

If I use firefox I don't get this error.  I have killed and restarted
chrome and the problem persists.  I have even rebooted the system and
the problem still persists.  What's curious is that the other system
doesn't show this failure.  The system that fails is the one that
actually connects to the internet, the other system routes through
the failing system to connect to the internet.

Anyone have any idea why I'm seeing this error and how to fix it?

Any help is appreciated.

I vaguely recall that chrome and firefox were going to start refusing
to connect to sites using certificates that were generated with an
algorithm that is now considered too weak.  It must be something in the
chrome configuration of the failing system doing this.  What happens if
you create a new user, and run chrome as that user?  When I saw this in
firefox, it was possible to override the refusal.  I don't know chrome,
so can't say if it also has that ability.

Try a web search using 'chrome weak certificate refusal' or similar and
you should find what other people did to get around this.
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Re: SElinux error

[Paolo Galtieri]

The issue is normally the SElinux alert gives me the name of the process 
causing the problem, not a long string of characters.


Paolo

On 11/11/18 12:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/11/2018 12:28 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:

Folks,
   I got the fllowing SElinux error today:

SELinux is preventing 72733A6D61696E20513A526567 from using the 
dac_override capability.


Anyone know what this refers to?


Are you getting this through sealert, the SELinux trouble shooter?  If 
so, use it to report the bug, and if you think it's reasonable, follow 
the instructions to create a custom policy to allow this.  I don't 
know what's causing this, but I do know what to do about it.

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Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/11/18 12:34 PM, home user via users wrote:

 > > xclock -d -update 1 &
 >
 > Tried that.  It give me a one live date and time.  I could
 > not figure out how to get the date and time on separate lines.
 > Also the -24 switch did not work

The digital ("-d") option uses the 24-hour format by default. 
Regardless, the option for 24-hour format is "-twentyfour", not "-24".


Does that work for you?  It doesn't work for me.  I know that the man 
page says it should do that, but it always gave me 12 hour instead.


The "strftime" option wants "-n" for a newline.  But that seems to not 
work.  Like Samuel, I get an empty rectangle for the "%n".  I tried 
several "xclock" commands.  Each time, I get the warning message 
"Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion"  Is that a 
useful clue to why we can't get time and date on separate lines?


Unlikely.  The problem is that xclock would have to interpret the 
newline character and isn't designed to do that.

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Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/11/18 2:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 15:27 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:

I would suggest just disabling them if it bothers you that much.  If you
remove them, they will get restored the next time the repos package is
updated.


Agreed. I assume that in some future Fedora they'll just disappear.
Currently none of my 4902 installed packages come from these repos.


They are very unlikely to disappear, they're part of the new modularity 
plan.  None of your currently installed packages are from them because 
you haven't installed any modules yet.

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Re: SElinux error

[Andy Paterson via users]

Dac is selinux discretionary access control


> On 11 Nov 2018, at 20:04, stan  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:28:44 -0800
> Paolo Galtieri  wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>>   I got the fllowing SElinux error today:
>> 
>> SELinux is preventing 72733A6D61696E20513A526567 from using the 
>> dac_override capability.
>> 
>> Anyone know what this refers to?
> 
> dac usually means digital-analog conversion in sound applications, so it
> might be pulseaudio.
> 
> But that is just a guess.  The long hash could refer to anything.
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Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure

[home user via users]

> Whenever I boot up my PC I'm getting this error
> `sudo dmesg`
>
>[   12.432182] ACPI Error: [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H_EC.ECAV] 
> Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20160831/psargs-359)
>[   12.432241] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution 
failed [\_SB.PCI0.B0D4._TMP] (Node 9de85a1f4410), AE_NOT_FOUND 
(20160831/psparse-543)

>
>
> It seems like something is missing (for ex. library, package etc).
> I'm ignoring this error from 7-8 months because it has no bad effect 
on > PC my but I'm more interested in why am I getting this error? And if

> possible, How can I fix this issue?

Might this be the same thing I posted about way back on May 19, 2017 
("ACPI errors (was: f24 boot fails; need help).")?  Back then, this was 
closed as a non-issue.  Stan referenced bug 1413342.  He also referenced 
"https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/acpi-error-[dssp]-namespace-lookup-failure-ae_not_found-on-slackware-14-64-bit-4175448907/;. 
 I still get the same entries in my boot logs, but things do seem to work.


Bill.
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Issues with nouveau & lockups, freeze on shutdown - SOLVED (Or at least a work around)

[PropAAS DBA]

All;


I've purchased a  Lenovo Thinkpad P52S back in July with the following 
specs:


- 8th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-8650U Processor with vPro® (1.90GHz, up 
to 4.20GHz with Turbo Boost, 8MB Cache)

- 15.6" 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) IPS anti-glare
- 32 GB DDR4 (16 + 16) 2400MHz
- NVIDIA Quadro P500 2GB GDDR5

Ever since then I've had issues with lockups, cpu 'stuck' at 100%, 
shutdown hangs, etc


I upgraded to Fedora29 and most of the lockup and cpu stuck issues went 
away but the shutdown hang issue remained.


Often I would see /var/log/messages entries like this:

kernel: nouveau :02:00.0: DRM: Pointer to TMDS table invalid
kernel: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#6 stuck for 22s! [Xorg:2145]
kernel: NMI watchdog: Watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on cpu 2
abrt-server[1960]: Oops looks like a problem in kernel module, new 
component xorg-x11-drv-nouveau


I've recently deployed a change to my system that seems to have fully 
resolved the issue, note that I use the laptop for business, writing 
code, running PostgreSQL, etc, so I need none of the benefits of the 
NVIDIA 3D features, in fact I prefer to NOT use these in order to save 
on battery life.



I found a fix that forces the use of the Intel video driver (I have a 
dual intel/NVIDIA card) and nothing else (or so it seems).


I posted this in hopes that it will help others who may have the same issue

I added a new entry into my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. I already had one 
since I wanted to force a screen resolution at boot / login time, 
otherwise you'll need to create one.



See my xorg.conf file below,

Note the only section needed for the "fix" is the Device Section which 
Sets the Driver = "intel" for Identifier "Card0"


For me this has fixed all of my issues, and I have increased battery 
life as well.  The entry itself was generated by logging into single 
user mode as root and running:


X -configure

Then I simply pulled the Device section out that specified the intel 
driver and added only that entry into my xorg.conf file




# xorg.conf

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "eDP1"
    Modeline "1344x756_60.00" 82.00 1344 1408 1544 1744 756 759 764 
785 -hsync +vsync

    Option "PreferredMode" "1344x756_60.00"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "DP1"
    Modeline "1344x756_60.00" 82.00 1344 1408 1544 1744 756 759 764 
785 -hsync +vsync

    Option "PreferredMode" "1344x756_60.00"
EndSection

#Section "Screen"
    #Identifier "Default Screen"
    #SubSection "Display"
    #Modes "1368x768_60.00"
    ## Modes "960x720"
    #EndSubSection
#EndSection

Section "Device"
    ### Available Driver options are:-
    ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
    ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz",
    ### : "%"
    ### [arg]: arg optional
    #Option "Accel" # []
    #Option "AccelMethod"   # 
    #Option "Backlight" # 
    #Option "CustomEDID"    # 
    #Option "DRI"   # 
    #Option "Present"   # []
    #Option "ColorKey"  # 
    #Option "VideoKey"  # 
    #Option "Tiling"    # []
    #Option "LinearFramebuffer" # []
    #Option "HWRotation"    # []
    #Option "VSync" # []
    #Option "PageFlip"  # []
    #Option "SwapbuffersWait"   # []
    #Option "TripleBuffer"  # []
    #Option "XvPreferOverlay"   # []
    #Option "HotPlug"   # []
    #Option "ReprobeOutputs"    # []
    #Option "XvMC"  # []
    #Option "ZaphodHeads"   # 
    #Option "VirtualHeads"  # 
    #Option "TearFree"  # []
    #Option "PerCrtcPixmaps"    # []
    #Option "FallbackDebug" # []
    #Option "DebugFlushBatches" # []
    #Option "DebugFlushCaches"  # []
    #Option "DebugWait" # []
    #Option "BufferCache"   # []
    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver  "intel"
    BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier    "Default Screen"
    Monitor    "Configured Monitor"
    Device    "Configured Video Device"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth    24
    Modes "1024x768" "800x600"
    EndSubSection
EndSection












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Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

[Doug]

On 11/11/2018 03:34 PM, home user via users wrote:

Good afternoon,


snip

If your Fedora doesn't supply the kde5 (Plasma) desktop I mentioned the 
other day, rpmfind will get you a plasma rpm for Fedora. Nice clock with 
the time above the date.


--doug
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Re: SElinux error

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/11/2018 12:28 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:

Folks,
   I got the fllowing SElinux error today:

SELinux is preventing 72733A6D61696E20513A526567 from using the 
dac_override capability.


Anyone know what this refers to?


Are you getting this through sealert, the SELinux trouble shooter?  If 
so, use it to report the bug, and if you think it's reasonable, follow 
the instructions to create a custom policy to allow this.  I don't know 
what's causing this, but I do know what to do about it.

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Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

[home user via users]

Good afternoon,

> > xclock -d -update 1 &
>
> Tried that.  It give me a one live date and time.  I could
> not figure out how to get the date and time on separate lines.
> Also the -24 switch did not work

The digital ("-d") option uses the 24-hour format by default. 
Regardless, the option for 24-hour format is "-twentyfour", not "-24".


The "strftime" option wants "-n" for a newline.  But that seems to not 
work.  Like Samuel, I get an empty rectangle for the "%n".  I tried 
several "xclock" commands.  Each time, I get the warning message 
"Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion"  Is that a 
useful clue to why we can't get time and date on separate lines?


Bill.
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Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure

[stan]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:59:45 -0500
Tom Horsley  wrote:

> Modern PCs are horrible. ACPI is a complete design disaster in every
> way. But we're kind of stuck with it. If any Intel people are
> listening to this and you had anything to do with ACPI, shoot
> yourself now, before you reproduce.

It's funny, but I can see how this would ruffle feathers.  I think
Linus missed his calling as a stand-up comedian, the kind that makes
people laugh using obnoxious insults.

Given that English isn't his first language, that he can come up with
such idiomatic remarks on the fly is also pretty amazing.  I think that
at that point he'd only been in the US for a few years.

I guess, if ACPI is still problematic, his words weren't taken to
heart.  :-)
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Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 11/9/18 9:11 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote:

> Thank you, Kevin Fenzi, for this expanded and more informative
> explanation.  It is exactly what I was looking for.
> 
> I do hope, though, that next time around F30 will include a Live Xfce
> spin in the distribution tree, even if it has to be an "unofficial"
> version.

I hope so too.

> I and many others depend entirely on this component of a release.

Perhaps you would be willing to help us test Beta and Final Xfce images?
more people testing the better we are. :)

kevin



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Re: strange problem

[stan]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:55:06 -0800
Paolo Galtieri  wrote:

> I encountered a strange problem today I'm wondering if someone can 
> explain what's going on.
> 
> Here's the problem, I have 2 systems running F28, one system was 
> upgraded from F27 two days ago, the other upgraded yesterday. Both 
> systems were working fine yesterday.  Today the second system will
> not connect to any website using chrome, I get the following error
> 
> 
> Your connection is not private
> 
> with the following detail
> 
> NET::ERR_CERT_WEAK_SIGNATURE_ALGORITHM
> 
> If I use firefox I don't get this error.  I have killed and restarted 
> chrome and the problem persists.  I have even rebooted the system and 
> the problem still persists.  What's curious is that the other system 
> doesn't show this failure.  The system that fails is the one that 
> actually connects to the internet, the other system routes through
> the failing system to connect to the internet.
> 
> Anyone have any idea why I'm seeing this error and how to fix it?
> 
> Any help is appreciated.

I vaguely recall that chrome and firefox were going to start refusing
to connect to sites using certificates that were generated with an
algorithm that is now considered too weak.  It must be something in the
chrome configuration of the failing system doing this.  What happens if
you create a new user, and run chrome as that user?  When I saw this in
firefox, it was possible to override the refusal.  I don't know chrome,
so can't say if it also has that ability.

Try a web search using 'chrome weak certificate refusal' or similar and
you should find what other people did to get around this.
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Re: cisco openh264 repo

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 11/8/18 5:52 AM, Brian Ward wrote:
> Anyone know who maintains this repo or the correct mailing list to reach
> them?
> 
> Apparently the repodata was updated but the rpm package is not found on
> Cisco's download site.
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenH264
> https://codecs.fedoraproject.org/openh264/28/x86_64/g/gstreamer1-plugin-openh264-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64.rpm
> https://codecs.fedoraproject.org/openh264/29/x86_64/g/gstreamer1-plugin-openh264-1.14.2-1.fc29.x86_64.rpm
> https://codecs.fedoraproject.org/openh264/30/x86_64/g/gstreamer1-plugin-openh264-1.14.2-1.fc30.x86_64.rpm
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> 
> [MIRROR] gstreamer1-plugin-openh264-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64.rpm: Status code:
> 404 for
> http://ciscobinary.openh264.org/gstreamer1-plugin-openh264-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64.rpm
> [FAILED] gstreamer1-plugin-openh264-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64.rpm: No more
> mirrors to try - All mirrors were already tried without success
> (81-82/107): libreof 64% [-   ] 9.6 MB/s | 158 MB 00:09
> ETA
> The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful
> transaction.
> You can remove cached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'.
> Error: Error downloading packages:
>   Cannot download g/gstreamer1-plugin-openh264-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64.rpm:
> All mirrors were tried

This was fixed on friday I think...

If you do have problems with it moving forward, the release engineering
tracker is likely the best place to note the problem:

https://pagure.io/releng/issues

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Re: SElinux error

[stan]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:28:44 -0800
Paolo Galtieri  wrote:

> Folks,
>    I got the fllowing SElinux error today:
> 
> SELinux is preventing 72733A6D61696E20513A526567 from using the 
> dac_override capability.
> 
> Anyone know what this refers to?

dac usually means digital-analog conversion in sound applications, so it
might be pulseaudio.

But that is just a guess.  The long hash could refer to anything.
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SElinux error

[Paolo Galtieri]

Folks,
  I got the fllowing SElinux error today:

SELinux is preventing 72733A6D61696E20513A526567 from using the 
dac_override capability.


Anyone know what this refers to?

Thanks,
Paolo
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Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure

[Tom Horsley]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:55:22 -0700
stan wrote:

> The error is coming from the
> kernel because it is looking for ACPI information in a lookup table,
> and the table is not found.

ACPI is a candidate for the world's most broken "standard".
I don't think I've ever had a computer that didn't generate
errors like this at boot. If the system seems to work, no
reason to worry about it.

For instance: "The Way We Live Now: Questions for Linus Torvalds".
New York Times. 2003-09-28.

Modern PCs are horrible. ACPI is a complete design disaster in every way.
But we're kind of stuck with it. If any Intel people are listening to
this and you had anything to do with ACPI, shoot yourself now, before
you reproduce.
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strange problem

[Paolo Galtieri]

I encountered a strange problem today I'm wondering if someone can 
explain what's going on.


Here's the problem, I have 2 systems running F28, one system was 
upgraded from F27 two days ago, the other upgraded yesterday. Both 
systems were working fine yesterday.  Today the second system will not 
connect to any website using chrome, I get the following error



Your connection is not private

with the following detail

NET::ERR_CERT_WEAK_SIGNATURE_ALGORITHM

If I use firefox I don't get this error.  I have killed and restarted 
chrome and the problem persists.  I have even rebooted the system and 
the problem still persists.  What's curious is that the other system 
doesn't show this failure.  The system that fails is the one that 
actually connects to the internet, the other system routes through the 
failing system to connect to the internet.


Anyone have any idea why I'm seeing this error and how to fix it?

Any help is appreciated.

Paolo
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Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[Todd Zullinger]

Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 11/11/2018 02:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ ps -eaf | grep geoclue
>> egreshko  1691 1  0 Nov10 ?    00:00:00 
>> /usr/libexec/geoclue-2.0/demos/agent
>> egreshko  5684  2503  0 17:25 pts/3    00:00:00 grep --color=auto geoclue
> 
> Try adding | grep -v grep to the end of that to get rid of the extra line.

An alternative which doesn't require the extra pipe and grep
is to add brackets to the initial grep:

ps -eaf | grep [g]eoclue

But for this particular case, I generally use pgrep instead
of ps | grep.

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Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/11/2018 02:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ ps -eaf | grep geoclue
egreshko  1691 1  0 Nov10 ?    00:00:00 
/usr/libexec/geoclue-2.0/demos/agent
egreshko  5684  2503  0 17:25 pts/3    00:00:00 grep --color=auto geoclue


Try adding | grep -v grep to the end of that to get rid of the extra line.
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Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure

[stan]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:45:44 +
finn via users  wrote:

> Greetings,
> Whenever I boot up my PC I'm getting this error
> `sudo dmesg`
> 
>[   12.432182] ACPI Error: [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H_EC.ECAV]
> Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20160831/psargs-359)
> [   12.432241] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
> [\_SB.PCI0.B0D4._TMP] (Node 9de85a1f4410), AE_NOT_FOUND
> (20160831/psparse-543)
> 
> It seems like something is missing (for ex. library, package etc).
> I'm ignoring this error from 7-8 months because it has no bad effect
> on PC my but I'm more interested in why am I getting this error? And
> if possible, How can I fix this issue?

I did a quick search of the kernel code.  The error is coming from the
kernel because it is looking for ACPI information in a lookup table,
and the table is not found.  I think this means that your hardware
doesn't provide the table.  That could be because it just doesn't have
it (capability added after your hardware), or because you have the
setting turned off in your hardware configuration (BIOS settings or
equivalent).  Check ACPI (power management) settings. It is an error,
but it seems that it is ignored if the table is not found. I think the
fix to stop the error report has to be in the kernel, and it probably
shouldn't be fixed, though it is more a warning than an error.

All this is just speculation on my part, so use it only as guidance.
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Re: Plymouth/Graphical Startup Fails on F29

[Tim Evans]

On 11/11/18 4:38 AM, John Pilkington wrote:

On 10/11/18 23:39, Tim Evans wrote:

On 11/10/18 3:12 PM, John Pilkington wrote:

I don't have f29 experience, but if you have previously used a 
proprietary mVidia driver and want to use nouveau, I suggest 
reinstalling nouveau and trying again.


Or install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-410.66-1.fc29 from rpmfusion-nonfree, 
or similar.


It has been my impression in the past that the most recently 
installed driver is likely to work but may disable earlier 
installations.


Thank you, John.  I may not've been clear:  There are no proprietary 
Nvidia drivers installed in F29, and were none on F28. Nouveau only in 
both cases, and they were working under F28.


Does 'dnf' installing the Nvidia driver do all the kernel stuff that's 
involved?




This will tell you much more than you need to know.  See the section 
headed  Current GeForce/Quadro/Tesla.  It will pull in the additional 
packages needed to build the kernel module, and building it will take 
some time.  Sometimes after a version update my box doesn't close down 
normally and I have to reboot via Alt/f2.


https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA

I have the current version for f28 running well with a GT 710 which 
gives a similar lspci


Hi, John.  Thanks for the info.  Installing the rpmfusion Nvidia package 
and rebooting is all it took.  I'm good.



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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Sam Varshavchik]

Ed Greshko writes:


On 11/11/18 9:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/11/18 8:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/11/18 6:31 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>>> If I open LibreOffice and leave the mouse pointer over a recent document  
preview image,

>>> this image starts blinking.
>>> A similar issue happens if I leave the mouse pointer over a menu icon  
(e.g., open a
>>> document and move the mouse pointer over the "Save" button; the image  
will start

>>> flickering).
>>>
>>> This issue is not present under GNOME (I tried both in the Wayland and  
the X.org version

>>> of GNOME).
>> It also happens in KDE.  So, not related to Xfce. 
>>
>> Should probably should check under MATE.
>>
> FYI, the flickering is fixed if I install libreoffice-kde4.  However,  
another problem
> happens if I change to Chinese input with ibus and try to enter Chinese  
text.  LibreOffice will crash.

>
Erasing libreoffice-gtk3 will stop the flickering on KDE and allow me to  
enter Chinese. 
Using libreoffice-gtk2 instead of libreoffice-gtk3 does cause issues with  
the display of
some fonts in previously created documents.  So, I'm not sure which is  
worse.  The
flickering or having to fix previous documents.  Probably the flickering I  
can live with

easier.


Yeah, I see this. If I move the pointer inside the icon, but still within  
the icon's area, the flickering stops. After I stop, half a second later the  
flickering comes back.


The flicking seems to be caused by repeated rendering of the pointer focus  
border around the icon, and the icon's gradient background, when the pointer  
is on top of it. Also, with no mouse movement, the mouse pointer itself  
seems to occasionally jump about a dozen pixels diagonally, before snapping  
back to its actual position.


Something is losing track of the mouse pointer and thinks it moved away,  
draws the icon as if it's no longer under the pointer, then realizes that  
no, the pointer is where it should be, so the icon should still be  
highlighted.


top shows libreoffice's process eating 12% CPU, and X itself adds another  
15% on top of it.





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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/11/18 9:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/11/18 8:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/11/18 6:31 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>>> If I open LibreOffice and leave the mouse pointer over a recent document 
>>> preview image,
>>> this image starts blinking.
>>> A similar issue happens if I leave the mouse pointer over a menu icon 
>>> (e.g., open a
>>> document and move the mouse pointer over the "Save" button; the image will 
>>> start
>>> flickering).
>>>
>>> This issue is not present under GNOME (I tried both in the Wayland and the 
>>> X.org version
>>> of GNOME).
>> It also happens in KDE.  So, not related to Xfce. 
>>
>> Should probably should check under MATE.
>>
> FYI, the flickering is fixed if I install libreoffice-kde4.  However, another 
> problem
> happens if I change to Chinese input with ibus and try to enter Chinese text. 
>  LibreOffice will crash.
>
Erasing libreoffice-gtk3 will stop the flickering on KDE and allow me to enter 
Chinese. 
Using libreoffice-gtk2 instead of libreoffice-gtk3 does cause issues with the 
display of
some fonts in previously created documents.  So, I'm not sure which is worse.  
The
flickering or having to fix previous documents.  Probably the flickering I can 
live with
easier.
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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/11/18 8:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/11/18 6:31 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>> If I open LibreOffice and leave the mouse pointer over a recent document 
>> preview image,
>> this image starts blinking.
>> A similar issue happens if I leave the mouse pointer over a menu icon (e.g., 
>> open a
>> document and move the mouse pointer over the "Save" button; the image will 
>> start
>> flickering).
>>
>> This issue is not present under GNOME (I tried both in the Wayland and the 
>> X.org version
>> of GNOME).
> It also happens in KDE.  So, not related to Xfce. 
>
> Should probably should check under MATE.
>

FYI, the flickering is fixed if I install libreoffice-kde4.  However, another 
problem
happens if I change to Chinese input with ibus and try to enter Chinese text.  
LibreOffice
will crash.

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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/11/18 6:31 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:
> If I open LibreOffice and leave the mouse pointer over a recent document 
> preview image,
> this image starts blinking.
> A similar issue happens if I leave the mouse pointer over a menu icon (e.g., 
> open a
> document and move the mouse pointer over the "Save" button; the image will 
> start
> flickering).
>
> This issue is not present under GNOME (I tried both in the Wayland and the 
> X.org version
> of GNOME).

It also happens in KDE.  So, not related to Xfce. 

Should probably should check under MATE.

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Re: HTTPD shutting down every night

[Scott van Looy via users]

Thanks for this.

I noticed last night that both https and bind had been killed and failed to 
restart so I’m beginning to suspect maybe there’s a memory problem somewhere in 
the log rotate stuff - but I’m not sure.

Lots of updates came down today, hoping it might magically fix itself :)

Fun!

Scott

> On 11. Nov 2018, at 11:27, Andy Blanchard  wrote:
> 
> Just upgraded a box to 29, and I've spotted the following in the httpd
> section of my Logwatch email:
> 
> Unescaped left brace in regex is deprecated here (and will be fatal
> in Perl 5.32), passed through in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/\G%({
> <-- HERE .*?})?./ at /usr/share/logwatch/scripts/services/http line
> 319.
> 
> It does, however, appear to have successfully rotated the httpd
> logfiles and restated httpd without incident, but may be a pointer as
> to what might be going wrong on your server.
> 
> Andy
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How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure

[finn via users]

Greetings,
Whenever I boot up my PC I'm getting this error
`sudo dmesg`

   [   12.432182] ACPI Error: [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H_EC.ECAV] Namespace 
lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20160831/psargs-359)
   [   12.432241] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed 
[\_SB.PCI0.B0D4._TMP] (Node 9de85a1f4410), AE_NOT_FOUND 
(20160831/psparse-543)

It seems like something is missing (for ex. library, package etc).
I'm ignoring this error from 7-8 months because it has no bad effect on PC my 
but I'm more interested in why am I getting this error? And if possible, How 
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Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 15:27 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 11/10/18 2:22 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > According to the above link:
> > 
> > Beginning with Fedora 29, all installations of Fedora will have
> > modules available for installation and update. This will be done by
> > merging the fedora-repos-modular sub-package back into the fedora-
> > repos package.
> > 
> > Furthermore, 'dnf list modules --installed' returns nothing, so I guess
> > I can just remove those repos.
> 
> I would suggest just disabling them if it bothers you that much.  If you 
> remove them, they will get restored the next time the repos package is 
> updated.

Agreed. I assume that in some future Fedora they'll just disappear.
Currently none of my 4902 installed packages come from these repos.

poc
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Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

[Marco Guazzone]

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 11:50 PM ToddAndMargo via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On 11/10/18 12:18 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > ToddAndMargo via users writes:
> >
> >> On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> >>
> >> And yet another one:
> >>
> >> Libre Office pulses at me
> >> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863
> >
> > What exactly do you mean by "pulsing"?
> >
> > A very brief check doesn't appear to result in anything unusual. I
> > started writer and typed "Lorem Ipsum" into an empty document, and it
> > sat there, for a while, and the only thing is continued to do is blink
> > the cursor.
> >
> > Firefox seems normal. Firefox is very sensitive to unusual desktop and
> > video hardware, and so far so good. I will soon be recompiling my X
> > toolkit library and see how it behaves with whatever XFCE uses as its
> > window manager. Should be able to see any oddities.
>
> It is only LibreOffice.  It looks like it very quickly minimized
> and them restores.  It is fast enough that you can't see anything
> behind the window.  I just see a flicker.
>

I'm also experiencing this flickering issue under XFCE.
If I open LibreOffice and leave the mouse pointer over a recent document
preview image, this image starts blinking.
A similar issue happens if I leave the mouse pointer over a menu icon
(e.g., open a document and move the mouse pointer over the "Save" button;
the image will start flickering).

This issue is not present under GNOME (I tried both in the Wayland and the
X.org version of GNOME).

Marco
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Re: HTTPD shutting down every night

[Andy Blanchard]

Just upgraded a box to 29, and I've spotted the following in the httpd
section of my Logwatch email:

 Unescaped left brace in regex is deprecated here (and will be fatal
in Perl 5.32), passed through in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/\G%({
<-- HERE .*?})?./ at /usr/share/logwatch/scripts/services/http line
319.

It does, however, appear to have successfully rotated the httpd
logfiles and restated httpd without incident, but may be a pointer as
to what might be going wrong on your server.

Andy
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Re: Plymouth/Graphical Startup Fails on F29

[John Pilkington]

On 10/11/18 23:39, Tim Evans wrote:

On 11/10/18 3:12 PM, John Pilkington wrote:

I don't have f29 experience, but if you have previously used a 
proprietary mVidia driver and want to use nouveau, I suggest 
reinstalling nouveau and trying again.


Or install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-410.66-1.fc29 from rpmfusion-nonfree, 
or similar.


It has been my impression in the past that the most recently installed 
driver is likely to work but may disable earlier installations.


Thank you, John.  I may not've been clear:  There are no proprietary 
Nvidia drivers installed in F29, and were none on F28. Nouveau only in 
both cases, and they were working under F28.


Does 'dnf' installing the Nvidia driver do all the kernel stuff that's 
involved?




This will tell you much more than you need to know.  See the section 
headed  Current GeForce/Quadro/Tesla.  It will pull in the additional 
packages needed to build the kernel module, and building it will take 
some time.  Sometimes after a version update my box doesn't close down 
normally and I have to reboot via Alt/f2.


https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA

I have the current version for f28 running well with a GT 710 which 
gives a similar lspci

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Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/11/18 2:36 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 11/10/18 10:00 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>> On 11/10/18 7:32 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>>  systemctl start geoclue
>>>
>>> Anything special I have to do to it to allow standard
>>> users to start it?
>>
>> You don't.
>>
>>> $ ls -al /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service
>>> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 468 Oct 14 11:59 
>>> /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service
>>
>> If you look in that file, you'll see that it's a dbus activated service.   
>> It's not
>> intended for manual startup.  It will run when requested.
>
> Indeed that is the idea.
>
> Redshift does this and bombs with a message
> that geoclue does not have permission.
>
>
> $ ls -al /usr/libexec/geoclue
> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 313368 Oct 14 11:59 /usr/libexec/geoclue
>
> $ /usr/libexec/geoclue
>
> (geoclue:23024): Geoclue-CRITICAL **: 22:34:01.971: Failed to acquire name
> 'org.freedesktop.GeoClue2' on system bus or lost it.
>
>

That is not started by the user directly

Using 2 terminal sessions.

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ ps -eaf | grep geoclue
egreshko  1691 1  0 Nov10 ?    00:00:00 
/usr/libexec/geoclue-2.0/demos/agent
egreshko  5684  2503  0 17:25 pts/3    00:00:00 grep --color=auto geoclue

then I start redshift in another terminaland after a bit I get a popup 
asking
permission for redshift to know my location

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ redshift
Trying location provider `geoclue2'...
Using provider `geoclue2'.
Using method `randr'.
Waiting for initial location to become available...
Location: 25.05 N, 121.53 E

and

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ ps -eaf | grep geoclue
egreshko  1691 1  0 Nov10 ?    00:00:00 
/usr/libexec/geoclue-2.0/demos/agent
geoclue   5713 1  0 17:26 ?    00:00:00 /usr/libexec/geoclue
egreshko  5735  2503  0 17:27 pts/3    00:00:00 grep --color=auto geoclu






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