[users] Re: Re: Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-23 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-21 18:59:00, schrieb Brad Rogers: Customer Support team. Especially as some unscrupulous vendors of OOo sell this list as their paid support. In the last 3 weeks I have found over 230 Websites, Online-Shops and eBay-Sales of them and have send out over 50 Messages to them... ...but

[users] Re: Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-19 18:38:26, schrieb Barbara Duprey: Michelle, I realize that this is not a complete or ideal solution, but I'm sure you realize that by far the majority of users who show up as unsubscribed do not use any other mechanism to receive replies, and must currently be explicitly

Re: [users] Re: Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:06:49 +0200 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michelle, BUT (!!!) if they write here, HOW do they know this list? There's a mailto: link on the OOo web site, which allows unsubbed users to post to the list, via the moderation route. It seems they are

Re: [users] Re: Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-21 Thread Barbara Duprey
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-05-19 18:38:26, schrieb Barbara Duprey: Michelle, I realize that this is not a complete or ideal solution, but I'm sure you realize that by far the majority of users who show up as unsubscribed do not use any other mechanism to receive replies, and must

[users] Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
* Do not Cc: me, because I READ THIS LIST, if I write here * *Keine Cc: am mich, ich LESE DIESE LISTE wenn ich hier schreibe* Am

[users] Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-15 17:35:06, schrieb James Knott: Larry Gusaas wrote: The problem is allowing unsubscribed postes to the list in the first place. If they are allowed, at least their address should be added to the 'Reply-To' header. Having to look to see if a post is delivered to the moderator

[users] Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-15 17:33:02, schrieb Richard Detwiler: No, if I do a reply, it should go to the reply-to field. This is WRONG! reply should ALWAYS go to the From: except if the header Reply-To:, Return-Path: or Mail-Followup-To: is set. If I do a reply all, it should go to the reply-to field plus

Re: [users] Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-19 Thread mike scott
On 16 May 2008 at 22:05, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-05-15 17:35:06, schrieb James Knott: Larry Gusaas wrote: The problem is allowing unsubscribed postes to the list in the first place. If they are allowed, at least their address should be added to the 'Reply-To' header. Having

[users] Re: Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi HF! Am 2008-05-18 01:21:46, schrieb Harold Fuchs: This gives the impression that you, Michelle think I'm a moderator or even *the* moderator. Neither is correct; I have no connection at all with the Yes I was realy thinking YOU are the guy doing all the stuff here... :-) administration of

Re: [users] Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-19 Thread Barbara Duprey
Michelle Konzack wrote: * Do not Cc: me, because I READ THIS LIST, if I write here * *Keine Cc: am mich, ich LESE DIESE LISTE wenn ich hier schreibe*

[users] Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-15 08:48:33, schrieb Richard Detwiler: Like Harold, I use Thunderbird, and I find it aggravating that doing a Reply all does not work in terms of sending a copy to the original poster (for cases where they are unsubscribed). (Why doesn't reply all really reply to all? Isn't that

[users] Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-15 16:41:37, schrieb mike scott: Because a reply-to header supercedes the 'from' header when making the reply - it's the way for the originator to redirect replies to an address of his choosing. The OOo list software uses reply-to to make sure replies go to the list - so a

Re: [users] Re: Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-17 Thread Harold Fuchs
2008/5/16 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 2008-05-15 16:41:37, schrieb mike scott: Because a reply-to header supercedes the 'from' header when making the reply - it's the way for the originator to redirect replies to an address of his choosing. The OOo list software uses

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-16 Thread mike scott
On 15 May 2008 at 17:33, Richard Detwiler wrote: James Knott wrote: Richard Detwiler wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: Some mail/news programs do not respect the 'Reply-To' header and also send to the 'From' address when using the 'Reply-All' button. Those who use these non-compliant

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-16 Thread mike scott
On 15 May 2008 at 16:39, Larry Gusaas wrote: -Original Message- From: James Knott Sent: 2008/05/15 3:35 PM Larry Gusaas wrote: The problem is allowing unsubscribed postes to the list in the first place. If they are allowed, at least their address should be added to the

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-16 Thread James Knott
Keith N. McKenna wrote: James Knott wrote: Keith N. McKenna wrote: James Knott wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: The problem is allowing unsubscribed postes to the list in the first place. If they are allowed, at least their address should be added to the 'Reply-To' header. Having to look to see

[users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Bob Estes
Harold Fuchs wrote: 2008/5/15 Bob Estes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Larry Gusaas wrote: snip Thanks for the info. I will try to remember to not use the Reply All button in the future. By the way, could you explain the difference between the Reply and Reply All functions? I'm sure that

[users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Bob Estes
Larry Gusaas wrote: -Original Message- From: Michelle Konzack Sent: 2008/05/14 7:13 AM Am 2008-05-11 17:14:39, schrieb Harold Fuchs: James, are you talking about messages from Bob Estes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])? Yes, and mee too, I get always to messages from Bob, one which come

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Michael Adams
On Thu, 15 May 2008 02:46:53 -0700 Bob Estes wrote: In ageneralised *e-mail* discussion an email is sent To one person (or more) and cc several others. Reply sends the reply *only* to the sender of the message being replied to; Reply All sends the message to that person plus all those

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Harold Fuchs
2008/5/15 Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 15 May 2008 02:46:53 -0700 Bob Estes wrote: In ageneralised *e-mail* discussion an email is sent To one person (or more) and cc several others. Reply sends the reply *only* to the sender of the message being replied to; Reply All

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Richard Detwiler
Harold Fuchs wrote: Yep, thats how i CC the OP when they are non list members (moderated posters). Hmmm. What *exact* method (OP Sys, mail/news program, mail or news) do you use to read/write the list? I currently use Thunderbird on one computer and Google's web interface via Firefox on

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread James Knott
Bob Estes wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: -Original Message- From: Michelle Konzack Sent: 2008/05/14 7:13 AM Am 2008-05-11 17:14:39, schrieb Harold Fuchs: James, are you talking about messages from Bob Estes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])? Yes, and mee too, I get always to messages from

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread James Knott
Richard Detwiler wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Yep, thats how i CC the OP when they are non list members (moderated posters). Hmmm. What *exact* method (OP Sys, mail/news program, mail or news) do you use to read/write the list? I currently use Thunderbird on one computer and Google's web

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Richard Detwiler
James Knott wrote: Richard Detwiler wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Yep, thats how i CC the OP when they are non list members (moderated posters). Hmmm. What *exact* method (OP Sys, mail/news program, mail or news) do you use to read/write the list? I currently use Thunderbird on one computer

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread mike scott
On 15 May 2008 at 11:30, Richard Detwiler wrote: ... I think you'll find the list sets the reply to to the list and reply to overrides the originating address. So, when you hit reply all, Thunderbird only sees the list address and not the originator. I realize that is what happening.

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread James Knott
Richard Detwiler wrote: James Knott wrote: Richard Detwiler wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: at always puzzled me.) I think you'll find the list sets the reply to to the list and reply to overrides the originating address. So, when you hit reply all, Thunderbird only sees the list address and

[users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Larry Gusaas
-Original Message- From: Harold Fuchs Sent: 2008/05/15 5:58 AM 2008/5/15 Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 15 May 2008 02:46:53 -0700 Bob Estes wrote: In ageneralised *e-mail* discussion an email is sent To one person (or more) and cc several others. Reply sends the

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Richard Detwiler
Larry Gusaas wrote: Some mail/news programs do not respect the 'Reply-To' header and also send to the 'From' address when using the 'Reply-All' button. Those who use these non-compliant programs can use 'Reply-All' button when responding to unsubscribed OPs. I'm not sure I'd call those

[users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Larry Gusaas
-Original Message- From: Richard Detwiler Sent: 2008/05/15 2:43 PM Larry Gusaas wrote: Some mail/news programs do not respect the 'Reply-To' header and also send to the 'From' address when using the 'Reply-All' button. Those who use these non-compliant programs can use 'Reply-All'

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Michael Adams
On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:58:39 +0100 Harold Fuchs wrote: 2008/5/15 Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 15 May 2008 02:46:53 -0700 Bob Estes wrote: In ageneralised *e-mail* discussion an email is sent To one person(or more) and cc several others. Reply sends the reply

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Richard Detwiler
James Knott wrote: Richard Detwiler wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: Some mail/news programs do not respect the 'Reply-To' header and also send to the 'From' address when using the 'Reply-All' button. Those who use these non-compliant programs can use 'Reply-All' button when responding to

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread James Knott
Larry Gusaas wrote: The problem is allowing unsubscribed postes to the list in the first place. If they are allowed, at least their address should be added to the 'Reply-To' header. Having to look to see if a post is delivered to the moderator before replying is idiotic. Does reply to

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread James Knott
Richard Detwiler wrote: James Knott wrote: Richard Detwiler wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: Some mail/news programs do not respect the 'Reply-To' header and also send to the 'From' address when using the 'Reply-All' button. Those who use these non-compliant programs can use 'Reply-All' button

[users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Larry Gusaas
-Original Message- From: James Knott Sent: 2008/05/15 3:35 PM Larry Gusaas wrote: The problem is allowing unsubscribed postes to the list in the first place. If they are allowed, at least their address should be added to the 'Reply-To' header. Having to look to see if a post is

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Barbara Duprey
James Knott wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: The problem is allowing unsubscribed postes to the list in the first place. If they are allowed, at least their address should be added to the 'Reply-To' header. Having to look to see if a post is delivered to the moderator before replying is idiotic.

[users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Keith N. McKenna
James Knott wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: The problem is allowing unsubscribed postes to the list in the first place. If they are allowed, at least their address should be added to the 'Reply-To' header. Having to look to see if a post is delivered to the moderator before replying is idiotic.

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread James Knott
Keith N. McKenna wrote: James Knott wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: The problem is allowing unsubscribed postes to the list in the first place. If they are allowed, at least their address should be added to the 'Reply-To' header. Having to look to see if a post is delivered to the moderator before

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread James Knott
Keith N. McKenna wrote: James Knott wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: The problem is allowing unsubscribed postes to the list in the first place. If they are allowed, at least their address should be added to the 'Reply-To' header. Having to look to see if a post is delivered to the moderator before

[users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Larry Gusaas
I'll respond to two of your messages in one post. See below -Original Message- From: James Knott Sent: 2008/05/15 7:28 PM How did you set two reply-to addresses? What does the header look like? Add a new address to be sent to. Click 'To' and select 'Reply-to'. This should work the

[users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-15 Thread Keith N. McKenna
James Knott wrote: Keith N. McKenna wrote: James Knott wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: The problem is allowing unsubscribed postes to the list in the first place. If they are allowed, at least their address should be added to the 'Reply-To' header. Having to look to see if a post is delivered

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-05 21:33:35, schrieb web at work: The total for the file is about 130 meg. If your speed is 56K then lets do the math. 56k = 0.056 m/sec though it could be faster line 128k = 0.128 m/sec 56k = 57344 kBit or 5734 Baud = 0.0054 MByte/sec 130 meg / 0.056 = 2322 seconds

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-14 Thread Paul
I for one only get a single instance of your message. As did I. However, IIRC, Bob's dupes appeared 24 hrs later than the first. Possibly being held up in a queue, awaiting moderation. FWIW messages for this thread are going through moderation. The 24 hour delay is quite possible. I

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-06 08:51:59, schrieb Bob Estes: Bit? Bytes? Is a bit a small bit of a byte or is a byte just a small bite from a bit??? Or maybe a bit is past tense of a byte??? Technology! Gr grimace Basicly, a Byte is eight Bits. END OF REPLIED

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
* Do not Cc: me, because I READ THIS LIST, if I write here * *Keine Cc: am mich, ich LESE DIESE LISTE wenn ich hier schreibe* Am

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-14 Thread James Knott
Michelle Konzack wrote: This real data traffic is called BAUD. Note: Additional to the STOP and the START Bit you can have additional bits and a STOP bit can have 1 1/2 time of the normal lenght... You'd normally only see 1.5 stop bits with 5 level codes. Eight bit codes

[Fwd: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)]

2008-05-14 Thread James Knott
(was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office) James Knott wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: On 11/05/2008 14:32, James Knott wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote: We don't need two copies of all your messages. I'm only getting one, James

[Fwd: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)]

2008-05-14 Thread James Knott
PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office) James Knott wrote

[Fwd: [users] Re: Download time for open office]

2008-05-14 Thread James Knott
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject:[users] Re: Download time for open office On 2008/05/12 3:43 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:16:59 +0100 mike scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello mike, To muddy the waters further, I see some of Bob Estes' mail duplicated

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-14 Thread James Knott
Michelle Konzack wrote: This real data traffic is called BAUD. Note: Additional to the STOP and the START Bit you can have additional bits and a STOP bit can have 1 1/2 time of the normal lenght... You'd normally only see 1.5 stop bits with 5 level codes. Eight bit codes

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-14 Thread Michael Adams
On Sun, 11 May 2008 22:05:06 +0200 Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-05-05 21:33:35, schrieb web at work: The total for the file is about 130 meg. If your speed is 56K then lets do the math. 56k = 0.056 m/sec though it could be faster line 128k = 0.128 m/sec 56k = 57344 kBit

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-14 Thread Bob McConnell
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-05-06 08:51:59, schrieb Bob Estes: Bit? Bytes? Is a bit a small bit of a byte or is a byte just a small bite from a bit??? Or maybe a bit is past tense of a byte??? Technology! Gr grimace Basicly, a Byte is eight Bits. END

[users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Brad, Am 2008-05-11 17:21:10, schrieb Brad Rogers: Like James, I've received two copies of messages from Bob. One set is via the moderation route, the other direct to the list. Currently, there's weirdness going on at the openoffice.org domain (again) as I can't post from one address

Re: [Fwd: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)]

2008-05-14 Thread Paul
And here is an example where I received it via the moderator. Both this message and the original were sent at the same time, so it appears the mail list is messing up. I think the answer may be that the 'return-path:' for the moderated and non-moderated messages are different.

[users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-14 Thread Larry Gusaas
-Original Message- From: Michelle Konzack Sent: 2008/05/14 7:13 AM Am 2008-05-11 17:14:39, schrieb Harold Fuchs: James, are you talking about messages from Bob Estes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])? Yes, and mee too, I get always to messages from Bob, one which come directly into the

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread Richard Travers
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote: We don't need two copies of all your messages. I'm only getting one, James. The one that is coming direct to the list. I flag

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread mike scott
/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [users] Re: Download time for open office X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter- greylist-3.0 (scottsonline.org.uk [86.22.68.66]); Sun, 11 May 2008 11:35:16 +0100 (BST) X-Scanned

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread mike scott
On 12 May 2008 at 10:16, mike scott wrote: ... On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote: We don't need two copies of all your messages. I'm only getting one, James. The one that is coming direct to the list. I flag the moderated messages

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:16:59 +0100 mike scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello mike, To muddy the waters further, I see some of Bob Estes' mail duplicated, some not. For example, the headers from a duplicated pair are appended. Same message-id and origination times. Hard to tell when they

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Bob Estes wrote: John W Kennedy wrote: On May 10, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Bob Estes wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 15:47:48 -0400 John W Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that the New York Stock Exchange continued to trade in 1/8ths of a dollar until just a few years ago.

[users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-12 Thread Bob Estes
James Knott wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: On 11/05/2008 14:32, James Knott wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote: We don't need two copies of all your messages. I'm only getting one, James. The one that is coming direct to the list. I flag

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread James Knott
Richard Travers wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote: We don't need two copies of all your messages. I'm only getting one, James. The one that is

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread James Knott
mike scott wrote: On 12 May 2008 at 10:16, mike scott wrote: ... On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote: We don't need two copies of all your messages. I'm only getting one, James. The one that is coming direct to the list. I flag

Re: [users] Re: Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-12 Thread mike scott
On 12 May 2008 at 3:54, Bob Estes wrote: ... If you find out what is going on, and if it is my fault, let me know so that I can correct it. I don't think you in particular are causing any problem, Bob. This issue goes back a while. I've been keeping copies of most questions to the OOo list

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread mike scott
On 12 May 2008 at 7:24, James Knott wrote: Richard Travers wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote: We don't need two copies of all your messages. ...

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2008/05/12 3:43 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:16:59 +0100 mike scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello mike, To muddy the waters further, I see some of Bob Estes' mail duplicated, some not. For example, the headers from a duplicated pair are appended. Same message-id and

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread Harold Fuchs
2008/5/12 Larry Gusaas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I access this group through gmane. As a test I used 'Reply to All' to reply to this, sending the reply through gmane and to [EMAIL PROTECTED] see if both show up and if everyone gets both copies. I for one only get a single instance of your

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 12 May 2008 18:30:22 Harold Fuchs wrote: 2008/5/12 Larry Gusaas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I access this group through gmane. As a test I used 'Reply to All' to reply to this, sending the reply through gmane and to [EMAIL PROTECTED] see if both show up and if everyone gets both copies.

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 12 May 2008 18:30:22 +0100 Harold Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Harold, I for one only get a single instance of your message. As did I. However, IIRC, Bob's dupes appeared 24 hrs later than the first. Possibly being held up in a queue, awaiting moderation. -- Regards _

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-12 Thread Bob Estes
Keith N. McKenna wrote: Bob Estes wrote: John W Kennedy wrote: On May 10, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Bob Estes wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 15:47:48 -0400 John W Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that the New York Stock Exchange continued to trade in 1/8ths of a dollar

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-11 Thread Bob Estes
John W Kennedy wrote: On May 10, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Bob Estes wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 15:47:48 -0400 John W Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that the New York Stock Exchange continued to trade in 1/8ths of a dollar until just a few years ago. Let's bring back

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-11 Thread Bob Estes
James Knott wrote: Bob Estes wrote: The U.S. Navy was still using Model 28 teletypes in the mid to late 1960's, and if I recall correctly, they had an extra long stop bit. (Either 1.5 or 2 bits.) Depending on the service, they'd likely be either 1.42 or 1.5 stop bits. The 1.5 seems to

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-11 Thread Bob Estes
Let's bring back pieces of 8 :-) Let's bring back real currency. (i.e. gold silver coin as specified in the U.S. Constitution.) And what's wrong with gold-pressed latinum? ;-) Can you immagine the size of one dollar gold coins nowadays, You'd have to have holes in them so you could

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-11 Thread James Knott
Bob Estes wrote: There is no reason that Congress would have to use the value of the Federal Reserve Notes when defining the weight of gold and silver coins. Is there any reason why your messages are appearing both directly on the list as well as via the moderator? We don't need two copies

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote:  We don't need two copies of all your messages. I'm only getting one, James. The one that is coming direct to the list. Lisi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-11 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Sun, 11 May 2008 02:47:52 -0700 Bob Estes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John W Kennedy wrote: On May 10, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Bob Estes wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 15:47:48 -0400 John W Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that the New York Stock Exchange continued

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-11 Thread James Knott
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote: We don't need two copies of all your messages. I'm only getting one, James. The one that is coming direct to the list. I flag the moderated messages in red. When he sends to the list, I get two copies, one

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 May 2008 14:32:17 James Knott wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote: We don't need two copies of all your messages. I'm only getting one, James. The one that is coming direct to the list. I flag the moderated messages in red. When he

[users] Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-11 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 11/05/2008 14:32, James Knott wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote: We don't need two copies of all your messages. I'm only getting one, James. The one that is coming direct to the list. I flag the moderated messages in red. When he sends

Re: [users] Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:14:39 +0100 Harold Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Harold, I also flag moderated messages in red and his (a) are *not* flagged (never have been in my lifetime) and (b) do not have the moderator for users@openoffice.org Delivered-To header. I'm baffled (nothing

Re: [users] Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-11 Thread James Knott
Harold Fuchs wrote: On 11/05/2008 14:32, James Knott wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 May 2008 13:06:39 James Knott wrote: We don't need two copies of all your messages. I'm only getting one, James. The one that is coming direct to the list. I flag the moderated messages

Re: [users] Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 11 May 2008 12:32:24 -0400 James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello James, Perhaps the list is moderating some members, while allowing their messages to go straight through as well. Possibly, but why should you and I see this behaviour, but not Harold and Lisi? All very odd..

Re: [users] Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-11 Thread James Knott
Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 11 May 2008 12:32:24 -0400 James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello James, Perhaps the list is moderating some members, while allowing their messages to go straight through as well. Possibly, but why should you and I see this behaviour, but not Harold

Re: [users] Duplicated Messages (was Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office)

2008-05-11 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 11/05/2008 17:46, James Knott wrote: Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 11 May 2008 12:32:24 -0400 James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello James, Perhaps the list is moderating some members, while allowing their messages to go straight through as well. Possibly, but why should you and

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-11 Thread John W Kennedy
On May 11, 2008, at 5:47 AM, Bob Estes wrote: John W Kennedy wrote: On May 10, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Bob Estes wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 15:47:48 -0400 John W Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that the New York Stock Exchange continued to trade in 1/8ths of a dollar

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-11 Thread Joseph
Bob Estes wrote: Joseph wrote: JOE Conner wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: SNIP For the benefit of those of us who did not understand it... My guess would be that there is an American/Australian coin worth 12.5 cents, since that would make sense of this comment. Is that correct??

RE: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-11 Thread Benje Evans
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:31 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office Bob Estes wrote: Joseph wrote: JOE Conner wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: SNIP For the benefit of those of us who did not understand it... My guess would

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread Bob Estes
Twayne wrote: Bob Estes wrote: Bit? Bytes? Is a bit a small bit of a byte or is a byte just a small bite from a bit??? Or maybe a bit is past tense of a byte??? Technology! Gr grimace Basicly, a Byte is eight Bits. Perhaps he bit off more than he can chew. ;-) He shoulda

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread Bob Estes
Bob McConnell wrote: James Knott wrote: NoOp wrote: On 05/07/2008 11:59 AM, James Knott wrote: mike scott wrote: On 6 May 2008 at 17:15, James Knott wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: ... It was 1.5 stop bits back in 1976 when we were integrating a 1200bps modem into our

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread Bob Estes
Michael Adams wrote: On Tue, 06 May 2008 08:51:59 -0700 Bob Estes wrote: Bit? Bytes? Is a bit a small bit of a byte or is a byte just a small bite from a bit??? Or maybe a bit is past tense of a byte??? Technology! Gr grimace Basicly, a Byte is eight Bits. But a Nibble is four

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread Bob Estes
Joseph wrote: JOE Conner wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: SNIP For the benefit of those of us who did not understand it... My guess would be that there is an American/Australian coin worth 12.5 cents, since that would make sense of this comment. Is that correct?? Lisi It was a Mexican

[users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread Bob Estes
Jerry Feldman wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 15:47:48 -0400 John W Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that the New York Stock Exchange continued to trade in 1/8ths of a dollar until just a few years ago. Let's bring back pieces of 8 :-) Let's bring back real currency. (i.e. gold silver

RE: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread TechAdmin @ VibrantLivingMinistries
: [users] Re: Download time for open office Twayne wrote: Bob Estes wrote: Bit? Bytes? Is a bit a small bit of a byte or is a byte just a small bite from a bit??? Or maybe a bit is past tense of a byte??? Technology! Gr grimace Basicly, a Byte is eight Bits. Perhaps he bit off

RE: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread TechAdmin @ VibrantLivingMinistries
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Estes Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:36 AM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: [users] Re: Download time for open office Michael Adams wrote: On Tue, 06 May 2008 08:51:59 -0700 Bob Estes wrote: Bit? Bytes

RE: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread TechAdmin @ VibrantLivingMinistries
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Estes Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:44 AM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: [users] Re: Download time for open office Jerry Feldman wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 15:47:48 -0400 John W Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread Gail Seidman
I am having a problem using open office calc linking with a website to update the dde on the spreadsheet. Can you help me? Bob Estes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 15:47:48 -0400 John W Kennedy wrote: Note that the New York Stock Exchange continued

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread John W Kennedy
On May 10, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Bob Estes wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 15:47:48 -0400 John W Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that the New York Stock Exchange continued to trade in 1/8ths of a dollar until just a few years ago. Let's bring back pieces of 8 :-) Let's

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread Gail Seidman
I don't know how to get information support. I sent a question and I am getting a lot of responses that have nothing to do with my question. Here is my problem: I have a spreadsheet written on Open Office that I want to use. It contains data that is linked to a website and it's data is

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:29:22 -0400 John W Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's not use this mailing list as a forum for political lies. The US Constitution does not and never did make any such specification, as can be readily ascertained merely by taking the time to read it. This is

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread Véro Bonnard
No speek english me ! 2008/5/10 Bob Estes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bob McConnell wrote: James Knott wrote: NoOp wrote: On 05/07/2008 11:59 AM, James Knott wrote: mike scott wrote: On 6 May 2008 at 17:15, James Knott wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: ... It was 1.5 stop bits back in

Re: [users] Re: Download time for open office

2008-05-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 10 May 2008 15:46:51 Gail Seidman wrote: I don't know how to get information support. I sent a question and I am getting a lot of responses that have nothing to do with my question. That is because you have hijacked a thread. Start a new thread, and if anyone knows the answer he

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