Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-30 Thread Justin Mason
Matt Kettler writes: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Justin Mason wrote: OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their server, and most of the time the answer is stop using blacklist.cf and

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-30 Thread Matt Kettler
Justin Mason wrote: Matt, any chance you could open a bz feature request for this? Done.. also added to it so there's now 3 warning level options. http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5710 --j.

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-28 Thread Matt Kettler
jdow wrote: From: Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2007, October 26 20:19 I dono, I think that having some --lint warnings generated when the overall config is really absurdly large seems useful for this kind of problem in general. A basic um, dude, that's a lot of config, are

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-28 Thread mouss
Matt Kettler wrote: Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:16 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: Justin Mason wrote: What else can we do? Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file over 1mb is read unless a config option is

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest die-ing instead. On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Duane Hill wrote: Why not make it a configurable option in local.cf defaulting to die. That way for those of us who create custom .cf files that have the system resources can do so

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-27 Thread jdow
From: Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2007, October 26 20:19 Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Justin Mason wrote: OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their server, and most of the time

Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...

2007-10-26 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [18696] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist-uri.cf [18696] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist.cf Ditch blacklist and blacklist-uri. These two are well known ways to kill spamassassin on all but the absolute

blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Justin Mason
Matt Kettler writes: I also use RulesDuJour daily to get updated cf files. From your debug output: [18696] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist-uri.cf [18696] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist.cf Ditch blacklist and blacklist-uri. These two

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Matt Kettler
Justin Mason wrote: OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their server, and most of the time the answer is stop using blacklist.cf and blacklist-uri.cf. If 1 person is asking the question,

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Justin Mason wrote: OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their server, and most of the time the answer is stop using blacklist.cf and

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:16 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: Justin Mason wrote: What else can we do? Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file over 1mb is read unless a config option is set to silence it? But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest die-ing

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Justin Mason
Matt Kettler writes: Justin Mason wrote: OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their server, and most of the time the answer is stop using blacklist.cf and blacklist-uri.cf. If 1 person is

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Duane Hill
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:35:13 -0500 Daniel J McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:16 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: Justin Mason wrote: What else can we do? Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file over 1mb is read unless a config option

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread John D. Hardin
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Duane Hill wrote: But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest die-ing instead. Why not make it a configurable option in local.cf defaulting to die. That way for those of us who create custom .cf files that have the system resources can do so and

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Duane Hill
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:43:37 -0700 (PPT) John D. Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Duane Hill wrote: But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest die-ing instead. Why not make it a configurable option in local.cf defaulting to die. That

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread SM
At 04:52 26-10-2007, Justin Mason wrote: What else can we do? Add a warning at startup if a sample message takes more than X seconds to be scanned. Whether people will actually read that warning is another question. Regards, -sm

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:43:37 -0700 (PPT), John D. Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Duane Hill wrote: But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest die-ing instead. Why not make it a configurable option in local.cf defaulting to die. That way for those

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread John D. Hardin
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Nigel Frankcom wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:43:37 -0700 (PPT), John D. Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Duane Hill wrote: But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest die-ing instead. Why not make it a configurable

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Matt Kettler
Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:16 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: Justin Mason wrote: What else can we do? Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file over 1mb is read unless a config option is set to silence it? But people don't read

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread James Lay
On 10/26/07 6:59 PM, Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:16 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: Justin Mason wrote: What else can we do? Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file over 1mb is read unless a

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Justin Mason wrote: OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their server, and most of the time the answer is stop using blacklist.cf and blacklist-uri.cf. If 1 person is asking the question, chances

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Matt Kettler
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Justin Mason wrote: OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their server, and most of the time the answer is stop using blacklist.cf and blacklist-uri.cf. If 1 person is

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Loren Wilton
Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file over 1mb is read unless a config option is set to silence it? Simple solution, assuming someone has control of the machine with blacklist.cf on it: Replace it with a single blank line. No complaints about SA stopped working!. Just

Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...

2007-10-25 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting Joey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am currently running SA 3.2.3 compiled from cpan. I have a situation where CPU is just going through the roof on just a few messages and I really can't tell what part of SA is the slow down. [...] Here is a list of files in each of my SA folders as well as

RE: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...

2007-10-25 Thread Joey
From: Pedro Correia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:35 AM To: 'Joey' Subject: RE: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter... Are you running SA on the same box as the mail server? I transfered my SA instalation to a dedicated box

RE: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...

2007-10-25 Thread Randal, Phil
First off, Do an sa-update -D as soon as possible. Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK From: Joey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 October 2007 14:24 To:

Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...

2007-10-25 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 09:23 -0400, Joey wrote: I have a situation where CPU is just going through the roof on just a few messages and I really can’t tell what part of SA is the slow down. Since this happens for a few messages only, I would start by checking if these messages got something in