My conclusion are.. Go for Wicket solution if you can (also because I
want to hear some experiences with it as a desktop solution) :) The
only thing holding you back are if need todo heavy graphics or need to
manipulate the desktop somehow (control mouse or keyboard etc)..
The largest issue about
To clarify: JavaFX is another language, which is what I believe Nino
means by some scripting language. It has some features that makes
GUI design easier, such as binding variable to position of a slider.
You can skin your JavaFX app with CSS, if you like.
It is seamlessly integrated with Java.
nino martinez wael wrote:
The largest issue about going towards a desktop solution with java are
that designing the ui really are a pain if you dont use something like
mattise, it's even worse that hacking html.. I'll agree on the javaFX
Granted, HTML frameworks have come a long way in the
I'd agree with Chris too. Swing apps can really attack a different a class
of problems ... a completely different solution space. And in that regard -
I think Swing (and/or strict desktop GUI development) would be a beneficial
understanding/perspective to have in your toolbelt.
I find this
+1000
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 14:14, Christopher L Merrill
ch...@webperformance.com wrote:
nino martinez wael wrote:
The largest issue about going towards a desktop solution with java are
that designing the ui really are a pain if you dont use something like
mattise, it's even worse that
Hi Jeremy
I'd say either use netbeans (matisse) or something a bit more
experimental, pack wicket with jetty as a desktop app I considered
this a couple of times. You could even put in something like
http://lobobrowser.org/java-browser.jsp.. Might too extreme though:)
2009/6/11 Jeremy
Yeah - I was considering using JRex [1] as an embedded browser, and
basically making a simple Swing app that loads up, starts an embedded
Jetty instance, has a window that loads the homepage of the local app
running within Jetty, and viola - instant desktop app using Wicket!
Probably not as simple
: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:54:47
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: [OFF TOPIC] Java desktop applications
I would like to build a nice-looking java desktop application. I hope
that isn't an oxymoron :). I have built some desktop apps before - a
lot of command line utilities in various
16:54:47
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: [OFF TOPIC] Java desktop applications
I would like to build a nice-looking java desktop application. I hope
that isn't an oxymoron :). I have built some desktop apps before - a
lot of command line utilities in various languages, and some
Try reading Filthy Rich Clients by Chet Haase and Romain Guy. That will
at least help with the nice-looking part.
Regards,
Linda
Jeremy Thomerson wrote:
I would like to build a nice-looking java desktop application. I hope
that isn't an oxymoron :). I have built some desktop apps before -
1: Maybe QT or what about java.net!
3: Adope AIR is really nice looking
4: if you have in mind, that you would need the app also in web
(intranet) build a wicket application. Desktop apps have better
usability in general.
GWT-application is an option to have both worlds !
Jeremy Thomerson
Ha this is funny,
I hear things like swing is horrible to design, from users that use
wicket so html apps. I guess those dont design the webapps themselfs,
because if i have to choose i would choose swing or swt over html/css
any day.. I really hate css
For swing apps just have a good ui builder
GWT is nice until you have too many objects on screen, then
performance drops to horrible.
What I like about doing HTML is that a lot of the layout problems have
been solved. Crude, yes, but solved.
Here is some hundreds of JavaFX examples, http://jfxstudio.wordpress.com
One is mine :-)
/Per
Yes, this is indeed very funny. People think, that making a good (desktop)
user interface is just about making the right choice of the used
architecture or GUI builder. That's plain wrong. You also can't
automatically make good looking and behaving web applications, just because
you know how html
I agree. However, finding the right GUI component library can make
things look very nice a lot quicker than you can do it on your own.
You still have to handle events properly (threading issues) and
architect stuff the right way, but having a nice library of widgets
is a great start.
On Fri, Jun
Major Péter wrote:
I didn't actually used it, but this could be helpful for you:
http://www.jformdesigner.com/
I have used JFormDesigner extensively, it is an excellent product.
Simle, yet it has all layout features you need. Costs are not high.
Works with open source JFormLayout layout
I have some time ago. It doesn't get much priority from Spring Source
so don't expect miracles. The main author is mostly tied up on Spring
Webflow.
Unrelated: I forgot to mention that you should absolutely use Glazed
Lists when you're doing a Swing project.
Regards,
Erik.
Jeremy
I used to hate HTML / CSS and had designers to do the layout. In the
past couple years, I've had to do all my own layouts from photoshop
images of what it should look like, and have become fairly proficient
with HTML / CSS. To the point where I actually sort of like it. Not
as much as coding
Yeah - but the other parts of the app I know that I can proficiently
make - the business logic, tasks, etc... The only part that I don't
have experience in is the desktop GUI - which is why I ask for help on
that specific piece.
And I have received a lot of helpful pointers! Thanks to everyone!
css is really crap (until i really can use box-sizing: border-box everywhere
that will be a great relieve)
who ever thought about that content-box should be shot and not through the
head
but shot at various places so that he will die a very painfull and slow
death.
its completely counter
Admittedly - it may not be standard, easy or necessarily intuitive ... but
CSS ain't all bad is it? :)
http://www.mezzoblue.com/zengarden/alldesigns/
-Luther
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Johan Compagner jcompag...@gmail.comwrote:
css is really crap (until i really can use box-sizing:
Those designs aren't what make me like CSS - most of them are
necessarily-filled with hacks to make them work, especially across
browsers.
Again I think it all comes down to familiarity. I still like the
separation of markup for presentation and java for code - which is
what draws me to Wicket
As an aside, I think the art-form takes a great stride forward every time we
arrive at a framework that, by its very use, improves general design and
implementation.
For example, I think the concepts around Spring are a huge step forward.
Most young developers don't understand what *dependencies*
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com
wrote:
Those designs aren't what make me like CSS - most of them are
necessarily-filled with hacks to make them work, especially across
browsers.
Sure. My comment was a joking plea to Johan to reconsider CSS :)
I would like to build a nice-looking java desktop application. I hope
that isn't an oxymoron :). I have built some desktop apps before - a
lot of command line utilities in various languages, and some GUI apps
(perl, java, python, php, even vb (yikes!), c# etc...).
The question is - what
ive done 4 before. it worked great, and has the added bonus of running
on the entire lan instead of a single desktop.
-igor
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Jeremy
Thomersonjer...@wickettraining.com wrote:
I would like to build a nice-looking java desktop application. I hope
that isn't an
is reasonably priced.
John
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From: Jeremy Thomerson jer...@wickettraining.com
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:54:47
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: [OFF TOPIC] Java desktop applications
I would like to build a nice-looking java desktop application
I didn't actually used it, but this could be helpful for you:
http://www.jformdesigner.com/
Peter
2009-06-11 23:54 keltezéssel, Jeremy Thomerson írta:
I would like to build a nice-looking java desktop application. I hope
that isn't an oxymoron :). I have built some desktop apps before - a
Well really OFF-TOPIC:
I've deal sometime with SWING layout, and it's difficult.
My last experience (a couple of years ago) was with a new layout, only
available on JAVA 6 (it can be added to java 5),
of which I can't remember the name., GroupLayout or something similar.
At that time the only
Also - has anyone looked at Spring Rich Client [1]? I used a very
early version of it once a couple years ago for a very small project,
but have not dealt with it since. I'm also not sure if it will
continue to be supported since it hasn't been released or updated in
over a year.
[1] -
Jide is very nice, if you want to pay for something. Their licenses
are very reasonable.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Jeremy
Thomersonjer...@wickettraining.com wrote:
I would like to build a nice-looking java desktop application. I hope
that isn't an oxymoron :). I have built some
Take a look at Griffon
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:18 PM, James Carman
jcar...@carmanconsulting.comwrote:
Jide is very nice, if you want to pay for something. Their licenses
are very reasonable.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Jeremy
Thomersonjer...@wickettraining.com wrote:
I would like
Well really OFF-TOPIC:
I've deal sometime with SWING layout, and it's difficult.
I would recommend using Instantiations' WindowBuilder
http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilder/
It has a lot of featues that automate painting Swing layouts.
Snap-to-position, align, etc. with your scalable
Java FX may be one, I am not sure of the look and feel or how better it is
from swing though.
As far as RIA(Rich Internet Applications) you could go for Adobe Flex, GWT.
I am sure Flex can be used for standalone applications, I am not sure about
GWT - but worth a look if its possible.
On Fri,
2009 16:54:47
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: [OFF TOPIC] Java desktop applications
I would like to build a nice-looking java desktop application. I hope
that isn't an oxymoron :). I have built some desktop apps before - a
lot of command line utilities in various languages
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